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12th Aug '17 11:56:37 PM HNutz
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* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' was also a spinoff but was easily more popular than ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'', no doubt due to the obscene levels of [[LesYay implied lesbianism.]] It was also much more willing to be experimental in its stories, and considering how different Hercules could be, that's saying something. Though Xena did suffer from one of the worst cases of SeasonalRot ever so ''improved'' might not be a completely accurate statement. Considering that Hercules was much better at being consistently good Xena may be the only example of a show being a SurprisingImprovedSequal AND an example of Sequelitis.

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* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' was also a spinoff but was easily more popular than ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'', no doubt due to the obscene levels of [[LesYay implied lesbianism.]] It was also much more willing to be experimental in its stories, and considering how different Hercules could be, that's saying something. Though Xena did suffer from one of the worst cases of SeasonalRot ever so ''improved'' might not be a completely accurate statement. Considering that Hercules was much better at being consistently good Xena may be the only example of a show being a SurprisingImprovedSequal SurprisingImprovedSequel AND an example of Sequelitis.
12th Aug '17 4:26:01 AM NightShade96
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* While ''[[Anime/TheMysteryOfMamo Lupin III: The Mystery of Mamo]]'' is well-liked among Lupin fans, it's the second Lupin film, ''Anime/TheCastleOfCagliostro'', directed by HayaoMiyazaki, that's achieved widespread mainstream critical acclaim on both sides of the pacific.

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* While ''[[Anime/TheMysteryOfMamo Lupin III: The Mystery of Mamo]]'' is well-liked among Lupin fans, it's the second Lupin film, ''Anime/TheCastleOfCagliostro'', directed by HayaoMiyazaki, Creator/HayaoMiyazaki, that's achieved widespread mainstream critical acclaim on both sides of the pacific.
29th Jul '17 12:28:22 AM TheJayman49
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* ''Fanfic/{{Intercom}}'', the FanSequel to ''InsideOut''. It builds on the premise of the movie, continues to explore different directions to take the many characters, introduces new characters that aren't carbon copies of previous characters, shows the consequences of the previous film, and the new premise isn't just a straight rehash of the original. Sounds like all the basic building blocks to a sequel just as good if not better than the original.

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* ''Fanfic/{{Intercom}}'', ''Fanfic/{{Intercom}}'' is a considerably rare example of a ''FanSequel'' being deemed as better than the FanSequel to ''InsideOut''. It [[WesternAnimation/InsideOut source material]]. Nonetheless, the story builds on the premise of the movie, ''Inside Out'', continues to explore different directions to take the many characters, introduces new characters that aren't carbon copies of previous characters, shows the consequences of the previous film, and the new premise isn't just a straight rehash of the original. Sounds like all the basic building blocks to a sequel just as good if not better than the original.
10th Jul '17 8:42:38 PM Da1tonTheGreat
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It's possible that in the musical world, even better sequel is the rule rather the exception, considering that an artist's first album (though still good) may have been recorded when they were still trying to figure out their style. Also common in video games, where the sequel is often built on the technological and fictional foundation of the first, significantly reducing the time needed to come up with or adapt new technology or build the game's world, and allowing the developers to focus on enhancing the things that worked and prune the things that didn't. Sequels in any medium may also benefit from the higher budget and greater creative freedom that are afforded to a proven franchise, provided the beancounters have the good sense to refrain from [[ExecutiveMeddling executive meddling]].

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It's possible that in the musical world, even better sequel is the rule rather the exception, considering that an artist's first album (though still good) may have been recorded when they were still trying to figure out their style. Also common in video games, where the sequel is often built on the technological and fictional foundation of the first, significantly reducing the time needed to come up with or adapt new technology or build the game's world, and allowing the developers to focus on enhancing the things that worked and prune the things that didn't. Sequels in any medium may also benefit from the higher budget and greater creative freedom that are afforded to a proven franchise, provided the beancounters have the good sense to refrain from [[ExecutiveMeddling executive meddling]].
meddling]]. This also generally applies to literature, where an author's work is generally regarded to improve after their first published efforts. In fact, the prejudice against sequels typically applies only to film, whether or not such an attitude is justified.
8th Jul '17 10:41:32 AM GamingGuy1802
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* Critics and audiences largely agree that ''Film/JohnWickChapter2'' improves on every aspect of [[Film/JohnWick the first one]], and it sports a 90% "Certified Fresh" rating on Website/RottenTomatoes.
21st Jun '17 7:13:07 PM 64SuperNintendo
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* Music/{{Pavement}}'s ''Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain'' can be considered this, depending upon who you ask. Both this and their debut, ''Slanted & Enchanted'' are equally acclaimed indie rock records. However, ''Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain'' is the album that flirted briefly with the mainstream and garnered them attention from major labels, despite the band's preference for remaining independent (which they ultimately did).

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* Music/{{Pavement}}'s ''Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain'' can be considered this, depending upon who you ask. Both this and their debut, ''Slanted & and Enchanted'' are equally acclaimed indie rock records. However, ''Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain'' is the album that flirted briefly with the mainstream and garnered them attention from major labels, despite the band's preference for remaining independent (which they ultimately did).
21st Jun '17 12:25:55 PM capthanos
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* Book 1 and 2 of ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' were pretty damn good in their own right but were plagued with some horrendous RomanticPlotTumor and the early half of Book 2 to be rather disjointed. Book 3 was able to finally do away with those problems and quickly became acclaimed by critics and fans alike to the point that it, combined with the rest of the books, is considered better than the entirety of ''Avatar the Last Airbender,'' the original series, by many.

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* Book 1 and 2 of ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' were pretty damn good in their own right but were plagued with some horrendous RomanticPlotTumor and the early half of Book 2 to be rather disjointed. Book 3 was able to finally do away with those problems and quickly became acclaimed by critics and fans alike to the point that it, combined with the rest of the books, is considered better than the entirety of ''Avatar the Last Airbender,'' the original series, by many. Critically, ''The Legend of Korra'' is often considered as the better series, though a few critics say that if not better, then it is at least just as good as ''The Last Airbender''.
21st Jun '17 3:56:12 AM TheJayman49
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* Some have considered ''WesternAnimation/Cars3'' to be a better film than ''WesternAnimation/{{Cars}}'', due to having even more CharacterDevelopment, improved writing, a well-written female protagonist, as well as completely ignoring the events of the [[{{Sequelitis}} first]] [[WesternAnimation/Cars2 sequel]].
7th Jun '17 8:46:36 AM superkeijikun
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* ''[[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Evangelion 1.0]]'' was very well-received, but a common criticism was the fact that it retreaded familiar territory. While ''Evangelion 2.0'' started off in the same manner, it stood apart from its predecessor by going completely OffTheRails and taking the story of ''Evangelion'' in a bold, if frightening, new direction.
13th May '17 6:20:59 AM asten
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* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' was also a spinoff but was easily more popular than ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'', no doubt due to the obscene levels of [[LesYay implied lesbianism.]] It was also much more willing to be experimental in its stories, and considering how different Hercules could be, that's saying something.

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* ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' was also a spinoff but was easily more popular than ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'', no doubt due to the obscene levels of [[LesYay implied lesbianism.]] It was also much more willing to be experimental in its stories, and considering how different Hercules could be, that's saying something.
something. Though Xena did suffer from one of the worst cases of SeasonalRot ever so ''improved'' might not be a completely accurate statement. Considering that Hercules was much better at being consistently good Xena may be the only example of a show being a SurprisingImprovedSequal AND an example of Sequelitis.
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