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* Some feel that ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'' managed to top ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo''.

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* Some feel that ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'' managed to top ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo''.''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'' due to having [[FanFavorite]] Dory as the main character.
12th Jan '18 10:56:58 AM BirdOfPrey23
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* Some feel that ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'' managed to top ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo''.
11th Jan '18 9:29:25 PM MyFinalEdits
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* The ''Series/{{Blackadder}}'' series is subject to this, as ''Blackadder II'' is generally regarded as being better than ''The Black Adder''. The first season was good in its own right,[[note]]It won an International Emmy award in the popular arts category in 1983.[[/note]] just not as good as the second in which Ben Elton took over writing duties from Rowan Atkinson, and the character of Blackadder became the iconic, witty DeadpanSnarker. This could also be considered a case of GrowingTheBeard. It arguably continued with ''Blackadder the Third'' -- which some fans consider slightly better than the second series, though others consider it a slight step down -- and was definitely continued with ''Blackadder Goes Forth'', which is near-universally regarded as the best ''Blackadder'' series.

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* The ''Series/{{Blackadder}}'' series is subject to this, as ''Blackadder II'' is generally regarded as being better than ''The Black Adder''. The first season was good in its own right,[[note]]It won an International Emmy award in the popular arts category in 1983.[[/note]] just not as good as the second in which Ben Elton took over writing duties from Rowan Atkinson, and the character of Blackadder became the iconic, witty DeadpanSnarker. This could also be considered a case of GrowingTheBeard. It arguably continued with ''Blackadder the Third'' -- which some fans consider slightly better than the second series, though others consider it a slight step down -- and was definitely continued with ''Blackadder Goes Forth'', which is near-universally regarded as the best ''Blackadder'' series.



* Music/DreamTheater's first album was recorded with Charlie Dominici on vocals. Then, after he was fired, the band hires James [=LaBrie=]. Then, they record ''Images and Words'', which is considered even today a masterpiece of ProgressiveMetal. It also contains [[OneHitWonder their first]] (and ATM only) number 1 hit. After that, the band kept on the road and released many great albums as well.
** While being on topic, one of DT's songs was called "Metropolis—Part I: "The Miracle and the Sleeper"". After firing Derek Sherinian, the band went to record their second masterpiece, a ConceptAlbum called "Music/MetropolisPt2ScenesFromAMemory", one of the best {{concept album}}s of the genre.
** Speaking of Dominici... He went on to make a series of prog concept albums called "O3: A Trilogy". The first one was a solo album, with Dominici on acoustic guitar, harmonica, and vocals. The second and third were epic amazing prog metal, similar to DT.

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* Music/DreamTheater's first album was recorded with Charlie Dominici on vocals. Then, after he was fired, the band hires James [=LaBrie=]. Then, they record ''Images and Words'', which is considered even today a masterpiece of ProgressiveMetal. It also contains [[OneHitWonder their first]] (and ATM only) number 1 hit. After that, the band kept on the road and released many great albums as well.
** While being on topic,
well. And one of DT's songs was called "Metropolis—Part I: "The Miracle and the Sleeper"". After firing Derek Sherinian, the band went to record their second masterpiece, a ConceptAlbum called "Music/MetropolisPt2ScenesFromAMemory", one of the best {{concept album}}s of the genre.
** Speaking of Dominici... He * Dominici went on to make a series of prog concept albums called "O3: A Trilogy". The first one was a solo album, with Dominici on acoustic guitar, harmonica, and vocals. The second and third were epic amazing prog metal, similar to DT.



* Music/TheBeatles were incredibly popular and well-loved with their first few albums, and were breaking new ground with them. But there were still critics at the time convinced that The Beatles were nothing but a passing fancy for the ladies who would inevitably give way to the next big thing. The lads from Liverpool responded by churning out ''Music/RubberSoul'', ''Music/{{Revolver}}'', ''Music/SgtPeppersLonelyHeartsClubBand'' and ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum''. The rest is history.
** Not to mention that ''Music/PleasePleaseMe'', while arguably one of the best albums coming from the UK in 1963, was undeniably topped by ''Music/WithTheBeatles''. And with "She Loves You" making them superstars in Europe and "I Want to Hold Your Hand" doing the same in America, it probably seemed the only way was down. Cue ''Film/AHardDaysNight''--album, song AND film.

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* Music/TheBeatles were incredibly popular and well-loved with their first few albums, and were breaking new ground with them. But there were still critics at the time convinced that The Beatles were nothing but a passing fancy for the ladies who would inevitably give way to the next big thing. The lads from Liverpool responded by churning out ''Music/RubberSoul'', ''Music/{{Revolver}}'', ''Music/SgtPeppersLonelyHeartsClubBand'' and ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum''. The rest is history.
** Not to mention that
history. ''Music/PleasePleaseMe'', while arguably one of the best being a popular albums coming from the UK in 1963, was undeniably topped by ''Music/WithTheBeatles''. And with "She Loves You" making them superstars in Europe and "I Want to Hold Your Hand" doing the same in America, it probably seemed the only way was down. Cue ''Film/AHardDaysNight''--album, song AND film.



** Arguably, a similar relationship holds for the clip to "Bohemian Rhapsody", which was the first Queen clip not to be just a performance of the song, and is widely regarded as one of the first true music videos.



* Music/MyChemicalRomance's debut album ''I Brought You My Bullets, You Brought Me Your Love'' may be well-liked by fans, but it was their sophomore album ''Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge'' that gave them their first taste of mainstream success and is widely considered one of the band's best releases. On the other hand, it was arguably topped by their next album, ''Music/TheBlackParade,'' which had explosive mainstream success and is still considered their defining work.

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* Music/MyChemicalRomance's debut album ''I Brought You My Bullets, You Brought Me Your Love'' may be well-liked by fans, but it was their sophomore album ''Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge'' that gave them their first taste of mainstream success and is widely considered one of the band's best releases. On the other hand, But it was arguably topped by their next album, ''Music/TheBlackParade,'' which had explosive mainstream success and is still considered their defining work.
11th Jan '18 11:02:12 AM erforce
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* ''Film/XMen'':

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* ''Film/XMen'':''Film/XMenFilmSeries''
9th Jan '18 4:49:33 AM Derkhan
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* While ''Literature/GardensOfTheMoon'' drawns many readers into the ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', it's agreed upon that the second volume, Literature/DeadhouseGates, has even better writing, characterization and a better developed plot; and for many readers volume three, Literature/MemoriesOfIce, tops the second.

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* While ''Literature/GardensOfTheMoon'' drawns many readers into the ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'', it's agreed upon that the second volume, Literature/DeadhouseGates, ''Literature/DeadhouseGates'', has even better writing, characterization and a better developed plot; and for many readers volume three, Literature/MemoriesOfIce, ''Literature/MemoriesOfIce'', tops the second.
4th Jan '18 4:11:39 PM bt8257
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* Music/{{Kyuss}}'s first album ''Wretch'' is generally seen as little more than a curiosity for hardcore fans of the band. However, their second album, ''Blues For The Red Sun'', is widely considered to be one of the best and most influential "stoner rock" albums of all time.

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* Music/{{Kyuss}}'s first album ''Wretch'' is generally seen as little more than a curiosity for hardcore fans of the band. However, their second album, ''Blues For The for the Red Sun'', is widely considered to be one of the best and most influential "stoner rock" albums of all time.



* Music/JudasPriest: their first album ''Rocka Rolla'' was utterly overshadowed by ''Sad Wings of Destiny'', a universally avowed AdaptationDistillation of metal.

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* Music/JudasPriest: their Their first album album, ''Rocka Rolla'' Rolla'', was utterly overshadowed by ''Sad Wings of Destiny'', a universally avowed AdaptationDistillation of metal.



** Her ''third'' album has managed to pull this off ''again''. Successfully combining the best elements of the first two. Oh, and it's a ''[[UpToEleven Triple Album]]''

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** Her ''third'' album has managed to pull this off ''again''. Successfully combining the best elements of the first two. Oh, and it's a ''[[UpToEleven Triple Album]]''triple album]]''



* Music/IronMaiden recorded their first two albums with Paul Di'Anno, which are regarded as classics. Then he was replaced by Music/BruceDickinson, and they recorded ''Music/TheNumberOfTheBeast''.
* Music/{{Helloween}} did well with their self-titled EP and ''Walls of Jericho'' with Kai Hansen on vocals and guitars. Then, he gets tired of singing and playing the guitars at the same time. Then, they hire Michael Kiske. Then, they record the first ''Keeper of the Seven Keys''. And after [=KOTSK1=], came its sequel, ''Keeper Of The Seven Keys 2'', considered the PowerMetal masterpiece.
* Music/DreamTheater's first album was recorded with Charlie Dominici on vocals. Then, after he was fired, the band hires James [=LaBrie=]. Then, they record ''Images and Words'', which is considered even today a masterpiece of the Progressive Metal. It also contains [[OneHitWonder their first]] (and ATM only) number 1 hit. After that, the band kept on the road and released many great albums as well.
** While being on topic, one of DT's songs was called "Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper". After firing Derek Sherinian, the band went to record their second masterpiece, a ConceptAlbum called "Music/MetropolisPart2ScenesFromAMemory", one of the best {{ConceptAlbum}}s of the genre.

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* Music/IronMaiden recorded their first two [[Music/IronMaidenAlbum first]] [[Music/{{Killers}} two]] albums with Paul Di'Anno, which are regarded as classics. Then he was replaced by Music/BruceDickinson, and they recorded ''Music/TheNumberOfTheBeast''.
* Music/{{Helloween}} did well with their self-titled EP and ''Walls of Jericho'' with Kai Hansen on vocals and guitars. Then, he gets tired of singing and playing the guitars at the same time. Then, they hire Michael Kiske. Then, they record the first ''Keeper of the Seven Keys''. And after [=KOTSK1=], Then came its sequel, ''Keeper Of The of the Seven Keys 2'', considered the PowerMetal masterpiece.
* Music/DreamTheater's first album was recorded with Charlie Dominici on vocals. Then, after he was fired, the band hires James [=LaBrie=]. Then, they record ''Images and Words'', which is considered even today a masterpiece of the Progressive Metal.ProgressiveMetal. It also contains [[OneHitWonder their first]] (and ATM only) number 1 hit. After that, the band kept on the road and released many great albums as well.
** While being on topic, one of DT's songs was called "Metropolis Part 1: The "Metropolis—Part I: "The Miracle and the Sleeper". Sleeper"". After firing Derek Sherinian, the band went to record their second masterpiece, a ConceptAlbum called "Music/MetropolisPart2ScenesFromAMemory", "Music/MetropolisPt2ScenesFromAMemory", one of the best {{ConceptAlbum}}s {{concept album}}s of the genre.



* Music/TheBeatles were incredibly popular and well-loved with their first few albums, and were breaking new ground with them. But there were still critics at the time convinced that The Beatles were nothing but a passing fancy for the ladies who would inevitably give way to the next big thing. The lads from Liverpool responded by churning out the likes of ''Rubber Soul'', ''Music/{{Revolver}}'', ''Music/SgtPeppersLonelyHeartsClubBand'' and ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum''. The rest is history.
** Not to mention that ''Music/PleasePleaseMe'', while arguably one of the best albums coming from the UK in 1963, was undeniably topped by ''Music/WithTheBeatles''. And with "She Loves You" making them superstars in Europe and "I want to hold your hand" doing the same in America, it probably seemed the only way was down. Cue ''Film/AHardDaysNight''--album, song AND film.

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* Music/TheBeatles were incredibly popular and well-loved with their first few albums, and were breaking new ground with them. But there were still critics at the time convinced that The Beatles were nothing but a passing fancy for the ladies who would inevitably give way to the next big thing. The lads from Liverpool responded by churning out the likes of ''Rubber Soul'', ''Music/RubberSoul'', ''Music/{{Revolver}}'', ''Music/SgtPeppersLonelyHeartsClubBand'' and ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum''. The rest is history.
** Not to mention that ''Music/PleasePleaseMe'', while arguably one of the best albums coming from the UK in 1963, was undeniably topped by ''Music/WithTheBeatles''. And with "She Loves You" making them superstars in Europe and "I want Want to hold your hand" Hold Your Hand" doing the same in America, it probably seemed the only way was down. Cue ''Film/AHardDaysNight''--album, song AND film.



* American Pop/Rock band Toto got off to a good start in their self titled debut album, but after their 2nd and 3rd albums ended up slumping, ''[[TitleByNumber Toto IV]]'' was a smash hit, earning several awards (and giving the band their signature smash hits "Rosanna" and "Africa").

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* American Pop/Rock band Toto Music/{{Toto}} got off to a good start in their self titled debut album, but after their 2nd and 3rd albums ended up slumping, ''[[TitleByNumber Toto IV]]'' was a smash hit, earning several awards (and giving the band their signature smash hits "Rosanna" and "Africa").



* Music/{{Oasis}}' ''{What's the Story) Morning Glory?'' is either this or just as good as the debut ''Definitely Maybe''.

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* Music/{{Oasis}}' ''{What's the Story) Morning Glory?'' ''Music/WhatsTheStoryMorningGlory'' is either this or just as good as the debut ''Definitely Maybe''.



* Music/AmyWinehouse's ''Music/BackToBlack''. ''[[Music/FrankAlbum Frank]]'', her first album, was a best seller and was nominated for a number of prestigious awards including both a Brit award and an Ivor Novello award (which it won). Back to Black however is the best selling album of the entire 21st century in the United Kingdom, and won considerably more awards including five Grammies. It also had success in many other countries around the world too and is credited by many for kick starting a third British invasion in America paving the way for other artists such as Adele, Duffy and Jessie J.

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* Music/AmyWinehouse's ''Music/BackToBlack''. ''[[Music/FrankAlbum Frank]]'', her first album, was a best seller and was nominated for a number of prestigious awards including both a Brit award and an Ivor Novello award (which it won). Back ''Back to Black Black'', however is the best selling album of the entire 21st century in the United Kingdom, and won considerably more awards including five Grammies. It also had success in many other countries around the world too and is credited by many for kick starting a third British invasion in America paving the way for other artists such as Adele, Duffy and Jessie J.



* Music/ThirtySecondsToMars' debut album is considered quite good but ''"A Beautiful Life"'' is where they really started to shine. Most of their well-known songs are from that album.

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* Music/ThirtySecondsToMars' debut album is considered quite good good, but ''"A ''A Beautiful Life"'' Lie'' is where they really started to shine. Most of their well-known songs are from that album.



* Music/{{Pantera}}'s breakout album was ''Cowboys From Hell'', where they defined their brand of groove/thrash metal (possibly after catching from hints from the likes of Dave Mustaine, if you can believe him), and is by far one of the most popular albums in Pantera's repertoire. It's not the second, the third, or even the fourth album they put out. Yep, ''Cowboys'' is their ''fifth'' album. You wouldn't believe the same band that did ''Power Metal'' in 1988 (they were young) also did ''Cowboys From Hell'' and, later on, ''Far Beyond Driven''.
* When you hear the name Music/{{Slayer}}, what do you think of? More than likely, ''Music/ReignInBlood'' comes to mind. This is yet another metal example. ''Reign in Blood'' was their third album. While Metallica and Megadeth were experimenting on their own, Slayer nailed their defining sound in one go (according to Kerry King), and it's widely regarded as the one of the best of the Big Four of thrash metal. It helps that they had legendary producer Rick Rubin working with them on it.

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* Music/{{Pantera}}'s breakout album was ''Cowboys From from Hell'', where they defined their brand of groove/thrash metal (possibly after catching from hints from the likes of Dave Mustaine, if you can believe him), and is by far one of the most popular albums in Pantera's repertoire. It's not the second, the third, or even the fourth album they put out. Yep, ''Cowboys'' is their ''fifth'' album. You wouldn't believe the same band that did ''Power Metal'' in 1988 (they were young) also did ''Cowboys From Hell'' and, later on, ''Far Beyond Driven''.
* When you hear the name Music/{{Slayer}}, what do you think of? More than likely, ''Music/ReignInBlood'' comes to mind. This is yet another metal example. ''Reign in Blood'' ''Music/ReignInBlood'' was their third album. While Metallica and Megadeth were experimenting on their own, Slayer nailed their defining sound in one go (according to Kerry King), and it's widely regarded as the one of the best of the Big Four of thrash metal. It helps that they had legendary producer Rick Rubin working with them on it.
31st Dec '17 11:50:28 PM Dere
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** While ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' was a massive [[WinTheCrowd crowd pleaser]] and brought the franchise roaring back to life after 10 years of dormancy, early reviews of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' are nigh-unanimously approving and many critics are calling it the best since ''Empire''.
14th Dec '17 9:11:45 AM MyFinalEdits
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** Similarly, while ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' was a massive [[WinTheCrowd crowd pleaser]] and brought the franchise roaring back to life after 10 years of dormancy, early reviews of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' are nigh-unanimously approving and many critics are calling it the best since ''Empire''.

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** Similarly, while While ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' was a massive [[WinTheCrowd crowd pleaser]] and brought the franchise roaring back to life after 10 years of dormancy, early reviews of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' are nigh-unanimously approving and many critics are calling it the best since ''Empire''.
14th Dec '17 9:10:27 AM MyFinalEdits
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* While ''Film/ANewHope'' is considered a cinematic masterpiece, many consider ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' as an even better film, and the best of the ''Franchise/StarWars'' saga, though [[PopularityPolynomial at the time of release it was disliked by many fans]], and there are some who still argue ''A New Hope'' was better (perhaps because ''A New Hope'' can be enjoyed pretty well on its own, whereas casual viewers of all the other films will suffer ContinuityLockOut).

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* ''Franchise/StarWars''
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While ''Film/ANewHope'' is considered a cinematic masterpiece, many consider ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' as an even better film, and the best of the ''Franchise/StarWars'' saga, though [[PopularityPolynomial at the time of release it was disliked by many fans]], and there are some who still argue ''A New Hope'' was better (perhaps because ''A New Hope'' can be enjoyed pretty well on its own, whereas casual viewers of all the other films will suffer ContinuityLockOut).
12th Dec '17 10:58:10 AM smasll_lordvoice
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** Similarly, while ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' was a massive [[WinTheCrowd crowd pleaser]] and brought the franchise roaring back to life after 10 years of dormancy, early reviews of ''Film/TheLastJedi'' are nigh-unanimously approving and many critics are calling it the best since ''Empire''.
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