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20th Aug '16 5:16:18 PM NOYB
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** Averted by the versions of Superman and the Flash in ''YoungJustice'' according to WordOfGod. Since Superman has multiple powers and superspeed is the Flash's only superpower, Greg Weisman says it makes the most sense to him that the latter is faster.
9th Aug '16 10:34:30 AM Imagine.Wizard
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** Averted in the Season 14 crossover with ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' - which finally pits Carolina and the Meta together. They spend most of the fight more or less equally matched, but ultimately Carolina wins, due to her ability to work well with Church as her AI. The episode LampShades the BrokenBase nature of this trope by having Griff refuse to accept the result of the 'simulation'. (And of course, some of the commentators on the YouTube video themselves are rejecting the outcome.)
7th Jul '16 5:10:35 AM ChronoLegion
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** Averted when Barry finally comes face-to-face with the Man in the Yellow Suit: the latter proves himself to be ''much'' faster and better than Barry, thoroughly trouncing the Flash in both the encounters of that episode. The only reason Barry survives the second encounter is the arrival of Firestorm ([[spoiler:then again, it's doubtful that Wells actually meant to kill him]]). Barry spends the next several episodes working on building up his speed for their next encounter.
** Played straight in the ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' crossover. When Oliver has to fight a HatePlague-influenced Barry, the latter is cured before there's a clear winner. The episode ends with them just starting a friendly rematch.

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** Averted when Barry finally comes face-to-face with the Man in the Yellow Suit: the latter proves himself to be ''much'' faster and better than Barry, thoroughly trouncing the Flash in both the encounters of that episode. The only reason Barry survives the second encounter is the arrival of Firestorm ([[spoiler:then again, it's doubtful that Wells actually meant to kill him]]). Barry spends the next several episodes working on building up his speed for their next encounter.
encounter. Also, in later encounters, Barry manages to defeat the Reverse-Flash either with the help of allies, by being faster ([[spoiler:ironically, with Thawne's own help]]), or by gaining enough knowledge of his opponent to best him.
** Played straight in the ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' crossover. When Oliver has to fight a HatePlague-influenced Barry, the latter is cured before there's a clear winner. The episode ends with them just starting a friendly rematch. rematch.
** Also averted with Zoom in the second season, who is even faster than the Reverse-Flash and who utterly destroys Barry during their first fight. [[spoiler:In the season finale, Barry finally manages to defeat Zoom, although, in the process, he ends up creating the Black Racer]].
7th Jul '16 5:04:07 AM ChronoLegion
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** And definitely averted in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.
1st Jul '16 10:31:41 PM HuyMinhLe
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* ''Film/SadakoVsKayako'' ends with Sadako and Kayako both possessing the main character and becoming a new curse.
20th Jun '16 9:34:45 PM lalalei2001
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* In Toei's ''Anime/YuGiOhFirstAnimeSeries'', Yugi and Kaiba's first duel is reworked into a draw so neither side wins.
15th Jun '16 2:45:41 PM DougSMachina
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In contrast, heroes of equal footing are harder to write for; it's safer to concede a tie, or set up a situation which distracts or prevents a clear-cut judgment. Often, if the contest is interrupted at the start of the episode, the show will [[LightheartedRematch set it all up again at the end]] but fade to credits before it starts up again. See LeftHanging and NoEnding. LetsYouAndHimFight is a convenient (and thus overused) set up because the heroes can simply identify the real bad guy before a winner can be decided.

While this is usually just a dramatic device, especially for characters who are StrongAsTheyNeedToBe, [[SeriousBusiness a lot of ''fans'' take this much more seriously]], spawning the infamous fanwanky and subjectivity-filled ''fight threads'' in online discussions.

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In contrast, heroes of equal footing are harder to write for; it's safer to concede a tie, or set up a situation which distracts or prevents a clear-cut judgment.judgement. Often, if the contest is interrupted at the start of the episode, the show will [[LightheartedRematch set it all up again at the end]] but fade to credits before it starts up again. See LeftHanging and NoEnding. LetsYouAndHimFight is a convenient (and thus overused) set up because the heroes can simply identify the real bad guy before a winner can be decided.

While this is usually just a dramatic device, especially for characters who are StrongAsTheyNeedToBe, [[SeriousBusiness a lot of ''fans'' take this much more seriously]], spawning the infamous fanwanky {{fanwank}}y and subjectivity-filled ''fight threads'' in online discussions.
27th May '16 8:40:28 AM erforce
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* A fair amount of outrage was generated in ''Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' fandom when the latest Gerard Butler version had Raoul beat the Phantom in a sword-fight outside the masoleum.

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* A fair amount of outrage was generated in ''Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' fandom when the latest [[Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera 2004 Gerard Butler version version]] had Raoul beat the Phantom in a sword-fight outside the masoleum.



* As expected, ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' had some of its members fight or almost fight upon meeting one another. Film/IronMan fought Film/{{Thor}} who later fought Film/TheIncredibleHulk with no clear-cut winners. Film/{{Captain America|TheFirstAvenger}} deflected Thor's hammer when he broke up his fight with Tony and even challenged Iron Man to a fight but nothing came of either conflict. This was averted in the fight between Comicbook/BlackWidow and ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} as Black Widow rendered Hawkeye unconscious.
* This trope is averted in The Avengers sequel, ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''. Iron Man, now wearing a special suit designed to fight the Hulk, actually manages to beat him in a pretty brutal match. Meanwhile, Scarlet Witch manages to MindRape the entire team at one point or another, with the exception of Hawkeye, who was immune to her powers and had her captive. Quicksilver beats Hawkeye twice with the element of surprise, but Hawkeye beats him using surprise in their third encounter.

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As expected, ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' had some of its members fight or almost fight upon meeting one another. Film/IronMan fought Film/{{Thor}} who later fought Film/TheIncredibleHulk with no clear-cut winners. Film/{{Captain America|TheFirstAvenger}} deflected Thor's hammer when he broke up his fight with Tony and even challenged Iron Man to a fight but nothing came of either conflict. This was averted in the fight between Comicbook/BlackWidow and ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} as Black Widow rendered Hawkeye unconscious.
* ** This trope is averted in The Avengers ''The Avengers'' sequel, ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''. Iron Man, now wearing a special suit designed to fight the Hulk, actually manages to beat him in a pretty brutal match. Meanwhile, Scarlet Witch manages to MindRape the entire team at one point or another, with the exception of Hawkeye, who was immune to her powers and had her captive. Quicksilver beats Hawkeye twice with the element of surprise, but Hawkeye beats him using surprise in their third encounter.
encounter.
13th May '16 10:32:34 AM Quanyails
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* Averted in the C{{rossover}} between Comicbook/SavageDragon and ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} in which Dragon was clearly shown to be stronger. The issue was co-written by both character's creators.

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* Averted in the C{{rossover}} {{Crossover}} between Comicbook/SavageDragon and ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} in which Dragon was clearly shown to be stronger. The issue was co-written by both character's creators.
7th May '16 7:17:18 PM Kid
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* Averted in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', with the first series ending when a fight between Naruto and Sasuke (And NOT a friendly one either) ended with [[spoiler: Sasuke knocking Naruto out]].

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* Averted in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', with the first series ending when a fight between Naruto and Sasuke (And (and NOT a friendly one either) ended with [[spoiler: Sasuke knocking Naruto out]].
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