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20th Jun '16 9:34:45 PM lalalei2001
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* In Toei's ''Anime/YuGiOhFirstAnimeSeries'', Yugi and Kaiba's first duel is reworked into a draw so neither side wins.
15th Jun '16 2:45:41 PM DougSMachina
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In contrast, heroes of equal footing are harder to write for; it's safer to concede a tie, or set up a situation which distracts or prevents a clear-cut judgment. Often, if the contest is interrupted at the start of the episode, the show will [[LightheartedRematch set it all up again at the end]] but fade to credits before it starts up again. See LeftHanging and NoEnding. LetsYouAndHimFight is a convenient (and thus overused) set up because the heroes can simply identify the real bad guy before a winner can be decided.

While this is usually just a dramatic device, especially for characters who are StrongAsTheyNeedToBe, [[SeriousBusiness a lot of ''fans'' take this much more seriously]], spawning the infamous fanwanky and subjectivity-filled ''fight threads'' in online discussions.

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In contrast, heroes of equal footing are harder to write for; it's safer to concede a tie, or set up a situation which distracts or prevents a clear-cut judgment.judgement. Often, if the contest is interrupted at the start of the episode, the show will [[LightheartedRematch set it all up again at the end]] but fade to credits before it starts up again. See LeftHanging and NoEnding. LetsYouAndHimFight is a convenient (and thus overused) set up because the heroes can simply identify the real bad guy before a winner can be decided.

While this is usually just a dramatic device, especially for characters who are StrongAsTheyNeedToBe, [[SeriousBusiness a lot of ''fans'' take this much more seriously]], spawning the infamous fanwanky {{fanwank}}y and subjectivity-filled ''fight threads'' in online discussions.
27th May '16 8:40:28 AM erforce
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* A fair amount of outrage was generated in ''Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' fandom when the latest Gerard Butler version had Raoul beat the Phantom in a sword-fight outside the masoleum.

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* A fair amount of outrage was generated in ''Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' fandom when the latest [[Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera 2004 Gerard Butler version version]] had Raoul beat the Phantom in a sword-fight outside the masoleum.



* As expected, ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' had some of its members fight or almost fight upon meeting one another. Film/IronMan fought Film/{{Thor}} who later fought Film/TheIncredibleHulk with no clear-cut winners. Film/{{Captain America|TheFirstAvenger}} deflected Thor's hammer when he broke up his fight with Tony and even challenged Iron Man to a fight but nothing came of either conflict. This was averted in the fight between Comicbook/BlackWidow and ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} as Black Widow rendered Hawkeye unconscious.
* This trope is averted in The Avengers sequel, ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''. Iron Man, now wearing a special suit designed to fight the Hulk, actually manages to beat him in a pretty brutal match. Meanwhile, Scarlet Witch manages to MindRape the entire team at one point or another, with the exception of Hawkeye, who was immune to her powers and had her captive. Quicksilver beats Hawkeye twice with the element of surprise, but Hawkeye beats him using surprise in their third encounter.

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As expected, ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' had some of its members fight or almost fight upon meeting one another. Film/IronMan fought Film/{{Thor}} who later fought Film/TheIncredibleHulk with no clear-cut winners. Film/{{Captain America|TheFirstAvenger}} deflected Thor's hammer when he broke up his fight with Tony and even challenged Iron Man to a fight but nothing came of either conflict. This was averted in the fight between Comicbook/BlackWidow and ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} as Black Widow rendered Hawkeye unconscious.
* ** This trope is averted in The Avengers ''The Avengers'' sequel, ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''. Iron Man, now wearing a special suit designed to fight the Hulk, actually manages to beat him in a pretty brutal match. Meanwhile, Scarlet Witch manages to MindRape the entire team at one point or another, with the exception of Hawkeye, who was immune to her powers and had her captive. Quicksilver beats Hawkeye twice with the element of surprise, but Hawkeye beats him using surprise in their third encounter.
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13th May '16 10:32:34 AM Quanyails
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* Averted in the C{{rossover}} between Comicbook/SavageDragon and ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} in which Dragon was clearly shown to be stronger. The issue was co-written by both character's creators.

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* Averted in the C{{rossover}} {{Crossover}} between Comicbook/SavageDragon and ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} in which Dragon was clearly shown to be stronger. The issue was co-written by both character's creators.
7th May '16 7:17:18 PM Kid
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* Averted in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', with the first series ending when a fight between Naruto and Sasuke (And NOT a friendly one either) ended with [[spoiler: Sasuke knocking Naruto out]].

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* Averted in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', with the first series ending when a fight between Naruto and Sasuke (And (and NOT a friendly one either) ended with [[spoiler: Sasuke knocking Naruto out]].
24th Apr '16 5:26:40 PM lalalei2001
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* In ''Anime/YuGiOhTheDarkSideOfDimensions'', Yugi and Kaiba's duel is inconclusive, with Yugi apparently wiping him out, Kaiba somehow hanging on, and Aigami interrupting it before it can conclude. [[spoiler:The movie also ends just before Kaiba and Atem duel.]]
18th Apr '16 10:25:32 AM Willbyr
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* ''MahouSenseiNegima'' appears to have one of these between Jack Rakan and Nagi Springfield, although considering that [[BoisterousBruiser Jack]] is the one telling the story, and Nagi was considered the WorldsStrongestMan, it might be a case of UnreliableNarrator.

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* ''MahouSenseiNegima'' ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' appears to have one of these between Jack Rakan and Nagi Springfield, although considering that [[BoisterousBruiser Jack]] is the one telling the story, and Nagi was considered the WorldsStrongestMan, it might be a case of UnreliableNarrator.



* Shortly after Dororo's introduction in the ''KeroroGunsou'' manga, Giroro tries to [[MurderTheHypotenuse take out]] [[SchoolgirlLesbians Koyuki]], unaware of her relationship with Dororo. Though Dororo is reluctant, it quickly becomes clear he can't go easy on his friend; fortunately, Natsumi interrupts before either one lands a decisive blow.

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* Shortly after Dororo's introduction in the ''KeroroGunsou'' ''Manga/SgtFrog'' manga, Giroro tries to [[MurderTheHypotenuse take out]] [[SchoolgirlLesbians Koyuki]], unaware of her relationship with Dororo. Though Dororo is reluctant, it quickly becomes clear he can't go easy on his friend; fortunately, Natsumi interrupts before either one lands a decisive blow.
16th Apr '16 3:41:49 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''RockyIII'', between Rocky and Apollo.

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* ''RockyIII'', ''Film/RockyIII'', between Rocky and Apollo.



* A fair amount of outrage was generated in ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' fandom when the latest Gerard Butler version had Raoul beat the Phantom in a sword-fight outside the masoleum.

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* A fair amount of outrage was generated in ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' ''Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' fandom when the latest Gerard Butler version had Raoul beat the Phantom in a sword-fight outside the masoleum.



* In a ''PairOfKings'' episode, we never do get to find out which twin was born first. To make matters worse, commercials aired for weeks prior promising we'd find out, and the whole episode was drummed up big time.

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* In a ''PairOfKings'' ''Series/PairOfKings'' episode, we never do get to find out which twin was born first. To make matters worse, commercials aired for weeks prior promising we'd find out, and the whole episode was drummed up big time.
15th Apr '16 2:05:47 PM Willbyr
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* Averted in the manga of ''YakitateJapan''. In the space between two [[SeriousBusiness international]] {{Cooking Duel}}s, the members of the Japanese team decide to have a practice battle between themselves. But then, a message arrives saying that the next duel has been hurried and is gonna start right away.

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* Averted in the manga of ''YakitateJapan''.''Manga/YakitateJapan''. In the space between two [[SeriousBusiness international]] {{Cooking Duel}}s, the members of the Japanese team decide to have a practice battle between themselves. But then, a message arrives saying that the next duel has been hurried and is gonna start right away.
6th Apr '16 8:46:39 AM ChaoticNovelist
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** This trope is played straight a few times, however. Iron Man and Captain America have a very brief scuffle that is broken up by Thor soon after. A few minutes later, when Vision is created, he tries to tackle Thor who tosses him through a window. Vision then uses his flying powers to stop himself in mid-air and apologizes, drawing the brief fight to a close before it got too heated.

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** This trope is played straight a few times, however. Iron Man and Captain America have a very brief scuffle that is broken up by Thor soon after. A few minutes later, when Vision is created, he tries to tackle Thor who tosses him through a window. Vision then uses his flying powers to stop himself in mid-air and apologizes, drawing the brief fight to a close before it got too heated.
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