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21st May '18 3:33:55 PM DuelMark
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** This may ultimately be subverted, as it's later established that Morty is still well aware of the fact that every morning he eats breakfast near his own grave, clearly indicating that while Rick may have treated this as a happy ending Morty certainly didn't.

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** This may ultimately be subverted, as it's later established that Morty is still well aware of the fact that every morning he eats breakfast near his own grave, clearly indicating that while Rick may have treated this as a happy ending ending, Morty certainly didn't.



* After more than 50 years of struggles, ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' manages to go back to the past and slay [[BigBad Aku]], preventing the Aku-ruled BadFuture from happening. Unfortunately, the love of his life is retroactively erased from existence too, being the daughter of Aku and all, leaving Jack [[HeartbrokenBadass heartbroken]]. Considering the massive impact Aku had on the world, it is likely she is not the only one - how many of the characters we've grown to know and love no longer exist due to the [[ButterflyOfDoom butterfly effect]]? Like ''Anime/End of Evangelion'', this seems to be an attempt at bittersweet that went too far into the "bitter" ballpark for much of the fanbase's liking. No wonder there are petitions going around begging Genndy for an alternate ending and various alternate endings being written.

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* After more than 50 years of struggles, ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' manages to [[spoiler: go back to the past and slay [[BigBad Aku]], preventing the Aku-ruled BadFuture from happening. Unfortunately, the love of his life is retroactively erased from existence too, being the daughter of Aku and all, leaving Jack [[HeartbrokenBadass heartbroken]]. Considering the massive impact Aku had on the world, it is likely she is not the only one - how many of the characters we've grown to know and love no longer exist due to the [[ButterflyOfDoom butterfly effect]]? Like ''Anime/End of Evangelion'', this seems to be an attempt at bittersweet that went too far into the "bitter" ballpark for much of the fanbase's liking. No wonder there are petitions going around begging Genndy for an alternate ending and various alternate endings being written. effect]]?]]
20th May '18 9:57:28 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* {{Lampshaded}} by Mike at the end of WesternAnimation/MonstersInc, who points out to Sully that while they may have saved Boo and exposed Waternoose and Randall's crimes, the scream energy crisis [[WellIntentionedExtremist that the villains were trying to stop]] will only get worse, the company will probably face severe financial problems if not outright bankruptcy due to the scandal and the loss of its CEO, all their friends will lose their jobs, and despite Waternoose's arrest it will likely be Mike and Sully themselves [[ConvictedByPublicOpinion who will be seen as the villains in the public's eye]]. Mike concludes his spiel with "At least we had some laughs"... [[EurekaMoment which makes Sully remember]] that earlier they'd discovered laughter energy is ''more'' powerful than scream energy, [[SubvertedTrope enabling him to become CEO and save the company]].
20th May '18 1:33:02 PM lalalei2001
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* It's been rumored that the elaborate end-title sequence in ''WesternAnimation/WallE'', showing the humans and the robots successfully rebuilding Earth over many generations, was added with the intent of averting this trope, after the initial test audiences thought all the humans died due to the polluted planet, though this is debatable since the ending of the movie shows that Wall-E's plant was just one of many, it was just the only one he had found in the city.
* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' ends on a supposedly happy note with Anna and Elsa finally reunited after 13 years of separation, Elsa learning to feel again and learn to control her powers, and the citizens completely adoring their new queen of Arendelle. However, even though Anna and Elsa do reconcile with each other, it still doesn't change the fact that they lost all the potential childhood they could have with each other for nothing and due to not knowing the other during that time, they are essentially complete strangers and have to restart their relationship completely from scratch, particularly when things are so much more complicated in their adulthood than they do as children which makes a close bond between them uncertain. There also the fact that even though Elsa managed to control her powers through love, depression and trauma doesn't really go away overnight and due to having spent a really long time in isolation, it would only be time before she reverts to her old habits again, especially since Anna has never been informed the reason why Elsa isolated herself in the first place meaning that even her sister wouldn't be able to help her from depression. Furthermore, a sudden change in weather and an EndlessWinter for three days must surely brought some casualties for the citizens either by hypothermia or famine and given the fact that the queen's response to the whole thing is to abandon her kingdom, she certainly doesn't make a good first impression in front of the citizen and would likely have a lot of people out for her blood compared to Hans whose first action as the new king is to them blanket for cover and is supposedly trying to execute the witch for the goodness of the kingdom. It's also been established that Weselton is Arendelle's largest trading partner and by having Elsa cut all ties, it leaves the kingdom hard-pressed to find another close trading partner and given Elsa's actions during the coronation, it is very unlikely that other kingdoms would even trust their new queen to open up a new trading partner, leaving the kingdom in great turmoil. Realistically, it could actually take years, if not decades for them to fix almost all the issues listed above and it is very likely that another trouble could prove even ''more'' irrepairable damage on both the kingdom and the sister's relationship. On another issue, Hans being sent back to his family is supposed to be seen as merciful fate where everyone agree that its for his best except that by sending him back home, he is sent back to his abusive family where they would undoubtedly bully him even more, with the implication that he will never be able to escape from his terrible life, unlike Anna.

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* It's been rumored that the The elaborate end-title sequence in ''WesternAnimation/WallE'', showing the humans and the robots successfully rebuilding Earth over many generations, was added with the intent of averting this trope, after the initial test audiences thought all the humans died due to the polluted planet, though this is debatable since the ending of the movie shows that Wall-E's plant was just one of many, it was just the only one he had found in the city.
* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' ends on a supposedly happy note with Anna and Elsa finally reunited after 13 years of separation, Elsa learning to feel again and learn to control her powers, and the citizens completely adoring their new queen of Arendelle. However, even though Anna and Elsa do reconcile with each other, it still doesn't change the fact that they lost all the potential childhood they could have with each other for nothing and due to not knowing the other during that time, they are essentially complete strangers and have to restart their relationship completely from scratch, particularly when things are so much more complicated in their adulthood than they do as children which makes a close bond between them uncertain. There also the fact that even though Elsa managed to control her powers through love, depression and trauma doesn't really go away overnight and due to having spent a really long time in isolation, it would only be time before she reverts to her old habits again, especially since Anna has never been informed the reason why Elsa isolated herself in the first place meaning that even her sister wouldn't be able to help her from depression. Furthermore, a sudden change in weather and an EndlessWinter for three days must surely brought some casualties for the citizens either by hypothermia or famine and given the fact that the queen's response to the whole thing is to abandon her kingdom, she certainly doesn't make a good first impression in front of the citizen and would likely have a lot of people out for her blood compared to Hans whose first action as the new king is to them blanket for cover and is supposedly
trying to execute the witch for the goodness of the kingdom. It's also been established that Weselton is Arendelle's largest trading partner and by having Elsa cut all ties, it leaves the kingdom hard-pressed to find another close trading partner and given Elsa's actions during the coronation, it is very unlikely that other kingdoms would even trust their new queen to open up a new trading partner, leaving the kingdom in great turmoil. Realistically, it could actually take years, if not decades for them to fix almost all the issues listed above and it is very likely that another trouble could prove even ''more'' irrepairable damage on both the kingdom and the sister's relationship. On another issue, Hans being sent back to his family is supposed to be seen as merciful fate where everyone agree that its for his best except that by sending him back home, he is sent back to his abusive family where they would undoubtedly bully him even more, with the implication that he will never be able to escape from his terrible life, unlike Anna.rebuild Earth.
20th May '18 1:01:36 PM HamburgerTime
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* {{Lampshaded}} by Mike at the end of WesternAnimation/MonstersInc, who points out to Sully that while they may have saved Boo and exposed Waternoose and Randall's crimes, the scream energy crisis [[WellIntentionedExtremist that the villains were trying to stop]] will only get worse, the company will probably face severe financial problems if not outright bankruptcy due to the scandal and the loss of its CEO, all their friends will lose their jobs, and despite Waternoose's arrest it will likely be Mike and Sully themselves [[ConvictedByPublicOpinion who will be seen as the villains in the public's eye]]. Mike concludes his spiel with "At least we had some laughs"... [[EurekaMoment which makes Sully remember]] that earlier they'd discovered laughter energy is ''more'' powerful than scream energy, [[SubvertedTrope enabling him to become CEO and save the company]].
18th May '18 2:05:23 PM legendaryweredragon
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* The ''VideoGame/RuneScape'' quest ''The Brink of Extinction'' has you saving the [=TzHaar=] race from going extinct. You eventually defeat the villain responsible and solve the cause of the problem. However, if you go back to the villain after the quest to confront him about the reasons for his actions, he reveals that the [=TzHaar=] are slowly growing weaker with every generation due to losing their [[GeneticMemory racial memories]] because they were never intended to reproduce. By taking away their ability to reproduce, he was trying to force them to return to the Elder Kiln so they could be properly reborn as intended. So although you have saved the [=TzHaar=] in the short term, you have doomed them in the long run, although the situation is not quite as bad as it was before because now the [=TzHaar=] are aware that their bodies need to be returned to the sacred lava after death so their souls can be freed from AndIMustScream, and the Ga'Al ([=TzHaar=] born [[BlankSlate without any memories]]) are no longer being killed on birth.
15th May '18 12:01:54 AM Mr.Bubbles
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* ''Film/TwoThousandTwelve'' ends with the arks receiving news that the global floodwaters are receding and they're heading to start a new colony on the African continent. Only then you remember that the entire world had just experienced a huge mess of geological disasters- continent-cracking earthquakes, volcanic eruptions (including Yellowstone), gargantuan tsunamis that drown most of the world, the entire Earth's crust shifting by 23 degrees, the magnetic fields reversing, etc. In all likelihood, the majority of the Earth's ecosystems have been destroyed and nearly all species wiped out, either from the disasters themselves or the resulting pollution from natural and man-made sources. The Earth is also due for a volcanic winter of hellish proportions with the ash and sulfur dioxide all the eruptions. To make matters worse, most of the people on the arks are the wealthy elite and are probably not equipped with the skills needed to rebuild all of civilization. Not to mention the actions by those onboard showcase that most of them are pretty damn arrogant and will likely be squabbling over who gets to be in charge.
9th May '18 12:10:19 AM Loekman3
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* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' ends on a supposedly happy note with Anna and Elsa finally reunited after 13 years of separation, Elsa learning to feel again and learn to control her powers, and the citizens completely adoring their new queen of Arendelle. However, even though Anna and Elsa do reconcile with each other, it still doesn't change the fact that they lost all the potential childhood they could have with each other for nothing and due to not knowing the other during that time, they are essentially complete strangers and have to restart their relationship completely from scratch, particularly when things are so much more complicated in their adulthood than they do as children which makes a close bond between them uncertain. There also the fact that even though Elsa managed to control her powers through love, depression and trauma doesn't really go away overnight and due to having spent a really long time in isolation, it would only be time before she reverts to her old habits again, especially since Anna has been informed the reason why Elsa isolated herself in the first place meaning that even her sister wouldn't be able to help her from depression. Furthermore, a sudden change in weather and an EndlessWinter for three days must surely brought some casualties for the citizens either by hypothermia or famine and given the fact that the queen's response to the whole thing is to abandon her kingdom, she certainly doesn't make a good first impression in front of the citizen and would likely have a lot of people out for her blood compared to Hans whose first action as the new king is to them blanket for cover and is supposedly trying to execute the witch for the goodness of the kingdom. It's also been established that Weselton is Arendelle's largest trading partner and by having Elsa cut all ties, it leaves the kingdom hard-pressed to find another close trading partner and given Elsa's actions during the coronation, it is very unlikely that other kingdoms would even trust their new queen to open up a new trading partner, leaving the kingdom in great turmoil. It could actually take years, if not decades for them to fix almost all the issues listed above.

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* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' ends on a supposedly happy note with Anna and Elsa finally reunited after 13 years of separation, Elsa learning to feel again and learn to control her powers, and the citizens completely adoring their new queen of Arendelle. However, even though Anna and Elsa do reconcile with each other, it still doesn't change the fact that they lost all the potential childhood they could have with each other for nothing and due to not knowing the other during that time, they are essentially complete strangers and have to restart their relationship completely from scratch, particularly when things are so much more complicated in their adulthood than they do as children which makes a close bond between them uncertain. There also the fact that even though Elsa managed to control her powers through love, depression and trauma doesn't really go away overnight and due to having spent a really long time in isolation, it would only be time before she reverts to her old habits again, especially since Anna has never been informed the reason why Elsa isolated herself in the first place meaning that even her sister wouldn't be able to help her from depression. Furthermore, a sudden change in weather and an EndlessWinter for three days must surely brought some casualties for the citizens either by hypothermia or famine and given the fact that the queen's response to the whole thing is to abandon her kingdom, she certainly doesn't make a good first impression in front of the citizen and would likely have a lot of people out for her blood compared to Hans whose first action as the new king is to them blanket for cover and is supposedly trying to execute the witch for the goodness of the kingdom. It's also been established that Weselton is Arendelle's largest trading partner and by having Elsa cut all ties, it leaves the kingdom hard-pressed to find another close trading partner and given Elsa's actions during the coronation, it is very unlikely that other kingdoms would even trust their new queen to open up a new trading partner, leaving the kingdom in great turmoil. It Realistically, it could actually take years, if not decades for them to fix almost all the issues listed above.above and it is very likely that another trouble could prove even ''more'' irrepairable damage on both the kingdom and the sister's relationship. On another issue, Hans being sent back to his family is supposed to be seen as merciful fate where everyone agree that its for his best except that by sending him back home, he is sent back to his abusive family where they would undoubtedly bully him even more, with the implication that he will never be able to escape from his terrible life, unlike Anna.
2nd May '18 10:14:49 AM rjd1922
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* In ''Disney/MulanII'', the climax has Mushu ensure that neither Mulan nor the three princesses she was escorting to another kingdom have to submit to an ArrangedMarriage to its prince(s), and thus they can MarryForLove their respective sweethearts. The problem is that the {{Arranged Marriage}}s were explicitly explained to be necessary to secure a political alliance between the kingdoms so that they will band together to defend China from the Huns. As the denouement does not resolve that issue even in passing, all the audience can assume is that Mulan and her lady friends have '''selfishly doomed their homeland'''.

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* In ''Disney/MulanII'', the climax has Mushu ensure that neither Mulan nor the three princesses she was escorting to another kingdom have to submit to an ArrangedMarriage to its prince(s), and thus they can MarryForLove their respective sweethearts. The problem is that the {{Arranged Marriage}}s were explicitly explained to be necessary to secure a political alliance between the kingdoms so that they will band together to defend China from the Huns. As the denouement does not resolve that issue even in passing, all (though the audience can assume was probably meant to assumed that [[spoiler:Mushu's "Golden Dragon of Unity" act convinced the Qigong Emperor to finalize the alliance anyway off-screen]]), the most straightforward assumption is that Mulan and her lady friends have '''selfishly doomed their homeland'''.
29th Apr '18 11:55:43 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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** Flowey/Asriel's fate (losing his physical body and reverting to an emotionless flower creature) rubs a lot of people the wrong way, and somewhat diminishes what would otherwise be a literally perfect ending for everyone.

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** Flowey/Asriel's fate (losing his physical body and reverting to an emotionless flower creature) rubs a lot of people the wrong way, and somewhat diminishes what would otherwise be a literally perfect ending for everyone. Many a FixFic involves finding a way to get Asriel his soul back.


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* There's a strange variation in ''VideoGame/Fallout3''. The regular ending has two choices: You sacrifice yourself to save the wasteland by activating Project Purity (which will flood the activation room with radiation), or you get Lyons to sacrifice herself for you. The ultimate effect is the same, but the game [[WhatTheHellHero chews you out]] if you choose to sacrifice Lyons. Thing is, you don't even have the ''option'' of say, sending Fawkes, the '''explicitly radiation-immune''' Super Mutant to do it, or Charon, the ghoul who's '''healed by radiation''', using a robot, surviving by use of the copious amounts of Rad-Away you've most likely accumulated over your journey, or even poking the activation buttons with a pole from far away. Severe fan backlash got Bethesda to release the ''Broken Steel'' DLC, which allows you to [[TakeAThirdOption take the obvious third option]] and send Fawkes to do it. The wasteland has pure water, EverybodyLives, AndTheAdventureContinues. Sounds like a GoldenEnding, right? Except the narrator mocks you for taking the logical solution to minimize deaths just the same as if you had sent someone else to die in your place.
28th Apr '18 11:48:10 AM Kazmahu
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* The story mode of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriors'' ends with the OriginalGeneration twins being crown co-Regents in the ruins of Aytolis castle, having defeated Velezark and sending the many heroes back to their own realms. Except the twins committed a character-flaw-driven mistake, the sort most ''Fire Emblem'' Lords learn to overcome, in the last three chapters of the game, and many people would argue that it's indicative of poor priorities for a ruler. Further, the neighboring kingdom of Gristonne is now completely lacking a royal family and any sort of armed forces. Finally, with what can be learned about Aytolissian succession, both twins are going to have firstborns with an equal claim, making a SuccessionCrisis and civil war all but certain. Small wonder the final cutscene doesn't actually address the plot's aftermath at all.
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