History Main / EpilepticFlashingLights

19th Apr '18 8:53:16 AM nanakiro
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** Creator/SpikeTV has its current way of displaying its logo during promos and such, with its logo in the center of a black screen, then a sound with a solid color (usually the same color as the Spike logo taking over the entire screen for a second before it returning to black, with the logo itself changing color during the flash. What's ironic about it is that the usual color of the logo is yellow, the same color that Pikachu fires his Thunderbolt in (yellow is said to be a MAJOR problem color for photo sensitive people, along with red, and was also the color added to that mix in the Porygon episode that made what could've been a tamer issue in that episode to become a widespread epidemic). The logo bug does a VERY rapid yellow flicker at times, too, that lasts for a few seconds, usually when a program returns from commercial.
** TBS has recently done this, but it's hard to know when they are going to actually employ it. Whenever the name of a show comes up in their promos, it's in a black on white (or vice versa) panel while the panels itself are on another background color. The panel rapidly flashes, with the text and background trading colors during the flashes.

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** Creator/SpikeTV has had its current way of displaying its logo during promos and such, with its logo in the center of a black screen, then a sound with a solid color (usually the same color as the Spike logo taking over the entire screen for a second before it returning to black, with the logo itself changing color during the flash. What's ironic about it is that the usual color of the logo is yellow, the same color that Pikachu fires his Thunderbolt in (yellow is said to be a MAJOR problem color for photo sensitive people, along with red, and was also the color added to that mix in the Porygon episode that made what could've been a tamer issue in that episode to become a widespread epidemic). The logo bug does a VERY rapid yellow flicker at times, too, that lasts for a few seconds, usually when a program returns from commercial.
** TBS has recently done this, but it's hard to know when they are going to actually employ it. Whenever the name of a show comes up in their promos, it's in a black on white (or vice versa) panel while the panels itself are on another background color. The panel rapidly flashes, with the text and background trading colors during the flashes.
19th Apr '18 8:48:03 AM nanakiro
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*** The reaction flooded to other anime as studios sought to make sure such an incident never happened again, employing new restrictions on what patterns and effects can be displayed on TV. All sequences that employed flashing effects or complex patterns (such as stripes, whirls, and concentric circles) were slowed, downsized, and shortened to more acceptable levels and lengths (many know about the rate of flicker for such effects that they feel is the most "at risk" rate). They've taken the issue rather seriously now.

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*** The reaction flooded to other anime as studios sought to make sure such an incident never happened again, employing new restrictions on what patterns and effects can be displayed on TV. All sequences that employed flashing effects or complex patterns (such as stripes, whirls, and concentric circles) were slowed, downsized, and shortened to more acceptable levels and lengths (many know about the rate of flicker for such effects that they feel is the most "at risk" rate). Some series even dim the colors right when the scene is about to get particularly flashy, and children's shows usually come with a warning to watch in a well-lit area at a safe distance from the TV. They've taken the issue rather seriously now.
8th Apr '18 11:20:08 PM wolftickets1969
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* ''VideoGame/WonderBoyIIITheDragonsTrap'' has this when Wonder Boy [[BalefulPolymorph changes to a new form]].

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* ''VideoGame/WonderBoyIIITheDragonsTrap'' has this when Wonder Boy [[BalefulPolymorph changes to a new form]]. The remake toned it down.
8th Apr '18 11:17:54 PM wolftickets1969
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* ''VideoGame/WonderBoyIIITheDragonsTrap'', when Wonder Boy [[BalefulPolymorph changes to a new form]].

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* ''VideoGame/WonderBoyIIITheDragonsTrap'', ''VideoGame/WonderBoyIIITheDragonsTrap'' has this when Wonder Boy [[BalefulPolymorph changes to a new form]].
8th Apr '18 11:15:42 PM wolftickets1969
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* ''VideoGame/WonderBoyIIITheDragonsTrap'', when Wonder Boy [[BalefulPolymorph changes to a new form]].
8th Apr '18 3:51:37 PM nombretomado
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'''It probably goes without saying, but anyone who actually ''has'' photosensitive epilepsy should avoid any external and ''especially'' any YouTube links on this page.'''

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'''It probably goes without saying, but anyone who actually ''has'' photosensitive epilepsy should avoid any external and ''especially'' any YouTube Website/YouTube links on this page.'''



** Go on YouTube and search for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax4zF4ychoU "Ear Booker Productions."]] This was Music/WeirdAlYankovic's production company when he starred in his short lived CBS kids show. Not only is it a firm example of the trope in fine fashion (epileptics beware), but the background music was called "Bite Me", which was on his album "Off The Deep End" which after 11 minutes of silence after "You Don't Love Me Anymore", the track begins, which is just him screaming like a maniac while disconjorted music plays in the background (it was intended to scare anyone that forgot to eject the disc). Imagine a rapid white and black flash taking up the entire screen, with large text that trades colors with the background on every color switch in said flash zooming up at you, for four seconds while THAT music track plays. Yeah, an epileptic's worst nightmare!

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** Go on YouTube Website/YouTube and search for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax4zF4ychoU "Ear Booker Productions."]] This was Music/WeirdAlYankovic's production company when he starred in his short lived CBS kids show. Not only is it a firm example of the trope in fine fashion (epileptics beware), but the background music was called "Bite Me", which was on his album "Off The Deep End" which after 11 minutes of silence after "You Don't Love Me Anymore", the track begins, which is just him screaming like a maniac while disconjorted music plays in the background (it was intended to scare anyone that forgot to eject the disc). Imagine a rapid white and black flash taking up the entire screen, with large text that trades colors with the background on every color switch in said flash zooming up at you, for four seconds while THAT music track plays. Yeah, an epileptic's worst nightmare!



** There's a technicality that goes with this, however, in that some games that have a neon-chroma pattern flash (red, yellow, blue, green) that could show the way it was intended on a TV screen (thus not as bad) will get into seizure inducing when someone posts it on- YouTube or any other video host that forces videos to a specific framerate. Usually this is a good thing to tame such issues in these cases, but when it destroys THAT pattern, it actually makes it WORSE! The earlier Zelda games featured some of these that get translated badly when you see videos of, say, the ending of the first Zelda, or the final boss in Zelda 2, or the beginning of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast''. On a TV screen, the colors flash too rapidly and in such a pattern that it wouldn't be too much of a concern (might catch you off guard, but no serious concern), whereas if you viewed the very same thing on YouTube, it would give you a sodding headache because it can't display all the colors in the pattern, so it only displays certain colors in the pattern...and it always seems to make the flash much more seizure inducing.
*** Despite that, the UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance re-release of ''Link to the Past'' changed the intro to where the sword piercing the Z in Zelda only makes the screen turn solid white than what it was previously. Maybe Nintendo saw what the slower frame rate of YouTube did to that chroma effect when people posted the SNES version (only when someone actually films the TV screen that the game is playing on can you see what the effect is actually supposed to look like).
** The strangest thing about this effect and how YouTube destroys it to make it more seizure-inducing is that WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd's review of Zelda 2 seems to be able to avoid the massacre of the rainbow effect, show the rainbow effect to a degree, and not have it cause much issue. The secret? James' well-documented way of recording game footage (some of it is too dimmed to be an issue, and sometimes, the screen is just solid red as in the re-releases).
*** Same cannot be said for a YouTube gaming series called "Continue?" (no relation to AVGN, by the way). The very first thing you see in the intro: the Zelda 2 death, with the blue and green strobe in full, bright HD glory!

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** There's a technicality that goes with this, however, in that some games that have a neon-chroma pattern flash (red, yellow, blue, green) that could show the way it was intended on a TV screen (thus not as bad) will get into seizure inducing when someone posts it on- YouTube on - [=YouTube=] or any other video host that forces videos to a specific framerate. Usually this is a good thing to tame such issues in these cases, but when it destroys THAT pattern, it actually makes it WORSE! The earlier Zelda games featured some of these that get translated badly when you see videos of, say, the ending of the first Zelda, or the final boss in Zelda 2, or the beginning of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast''. On a TV screen, the colors flash too rapidly and in such a pattern that it wouldn't be too much of a concern (might catch you off guard, but no serious concern), whereas if you viewed the very same thing on YouTube, [=YouTube=], it would give you a sodding headache because it can't display all the colors in the pattern, so it only displays certain colors in the pattern...and it always seems to make the flash much more seizure inducing.
*** Despite that, the UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance re-release of ''Link to the Past'' changed the intro to where the sword piercing the Z in Zelda only makes the screen turn solid white than what it was previously. Maybe Nintendo saw what the slower frame rate of YouTube [=YouTube=] did to that chroma effect when people posted the SNES version (only when someone actually films the TV screen that the game is playing on can you see what the effect is actually supposed to look like).
** The strangest thing about this effect and how YouTube [=YouTube=] destroys it to make it more seizure-inducing is that WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd's review of Zelda 2 seems to be able to avoid the massacre of the rainbow effect, show the rainbow effect to a degree, and not have it cause much issue. The secret? James' well-documented way of recording game footage (some of it is too dimmed to be an issue, and sometimes, the screen is just solid red as in the re-releases).
*** Same cannot be said for a YouTube [=YouTube=] gaming series called "Continue?" (no relation to AVGN, by the way). The very first thing you see in the intro: the Zelda 2 death, with the blue and green strobe in full, bright HD glory!



* It's a popular trend anymore among Website/YouTube comments, as well. Go look at the comment section to any video that might contain a variety of this trope, and you will more than likely, at some point, find a comment that brings up the flashes or claims that it's a seizure-inducing sequence, even if it might be tame in comparison to other patterns that might cause anyone to have issues, or have yet to have any cases reported.

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* It's a popular trend anymore among Website/YouTube [=YouTube=] comments, as well. Go look at the comment section to any video that might contain a variety of this trope, and you will more than likely, at some point, find a comment that brings up the flashes or claims that it's a seizure-inducing sequence, even if it might be tame in comparison to other patterns that might cause anyone to have issues, or have yet to have any cases reported.
18th Mar '18 10:16:50 PM darkpowrjd
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* ''Saturday Night Live'' on the March 17th, 2018 episode had Arcade Fire as the musical guest. During the performance of their first song, Creature Comfort, they employed a ton of strobe lighting effects that would melt an epileptic. In fact, the Live From New York subreddit had quite a few people saying that the lighting caused some headaches. Wasn't the first time an SNL musical guest used strobe lighting (The Weeknd had a similar stage setup that had a milder form of it for "False Alarm"), but this was much more intense. Strangely, NBC did apologize for cutting off the beginning of Arcade Fire's second song, but not for the seizure inducing lights that accompanied the first song (that was much more threatening to those viewing it).
19th Feb '18 8:25:05 AM gjjones
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* ''Anime/{{Pokémon}}'' will forever be haunted by the ''[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EP038 Electric Soldier Porygon]]'' incident. Episode 38 aired only once on December 16, 1997, in Japan, and in the half-hour that it showed, 700 kids had seizures and had to be hospitalized. The episode was never aired anywhere else in the world, having been outright banned by Japanese law, and holds the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous world record]] of most seizures induced by a television show. As a result of this reputation, Porygon (and later, its evolutions, [=Porygon2=] and Porygon-Z) have never had a huge role in any episode since... which serves as little more than insult to injury, since it wasn't Porygon who set off the EpilepticFlashingLights, but ''[[TheHero Pikachu]]'', with his yellow and white flashing electricity, hitting the vaccine missiles that produced the seizure-inducing red and blue flashes. [[CluelessAesop Pikachu and his lightning attacks then proceeded to appear in]] ''[[CluelessAesop every]]'' [[CluelessAesop episode and movie since]]...

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* ''Anime/{{Pokémon}}'' ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' will forever be haunted by the ''[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EP038 Electric Soldier Porygon]]'' incident. Episode 38 aired only once on December 16, 1997, in Japan, and in the half-hour that it showed, 700 kids had seizures and had to be hospitalized. The episode was never aired anywhere else in the world, having been outright banned by Japanese law, and holds the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous world record]] of most seizures induced by a television show. As a result of this reputation, Porygon (and later, its evolutions, [=Porygon2=] and Porygon-Z) have never had a huge role in any episode since... which serves as little more than insult to injury, since it wasn't Porygon who set off the EpilepticFlashingLights, but ''[[TheHero Pikachu]]'', with his yellow and white flashing electricity, hitting the vaccine missiles that produced the seizure-inducing red and blue flashes. [[CluelessAesop Pikachu and his lightning attacks then proceeded to appear in]] ''[[CluelessAesop every]]'' [[CluelessAesop episode and movie since]]...
19th Feb '18 8:22:42 AM gjjones
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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' will forever be haunted by the ''[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EP038 Electric Soldier Porygon]]'' incident. Episode 38 aired only once on December 16, 1997, in Japan, and in the half-hour that it showed, 700 kids had seizures and had to be hospitalized. The episode was never aired anywhere else in the world, having been outright banned by Japanese law, and holds the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous world record]] of most seizures induced by a television show. As a result of this reputation, Porygon (and later, its evolutions, [=Porygon2=] and Porygon-Z) have never had a huge role in any episode since... which serves as little more than insult to injury, since it wasn't Porygon who set off the EpilepticFlashingLights, but ''[[TheHero Pikachu]]'', with his yellow and white flashing electricity, hitting the vaccine missiles that produced the seizure-inducing red and blue flashes. [[CluelessAesop Pikachu and his lightning attacks then proceeded to appear in]] ''[[CluelessAesop every]]'' [[CluelessAesop episode and movie since]]...

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' ''Anime/{{Pokémon}}'' will forever be haunted by the ''[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EP038 Electric Soldier Porygon]]'' incident. Episode 38 aired only once on December 16, 1997, in Japan, and in the half-hour that it showed, 700 kids had seizures and had to be hospitalized. The episode was never aired anywhere else in the world, having been outright banned by Japanese law, and holds the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous world record]] of most seizures induced by a television show. As a result of this reputation, Porygon (and later, its evolutions, [=Porygon2=] and Porygon-Z) have never had a huge role in any episode since... which serves as little more than insult to injury, since it wasn't Porygon who set off the EpilepticFlashingLights, but ''[[TheHero Pikachu]]'', with his yellow and white flashing electricity, hitting the vaccine missiles that produced the seizure-inducing red and blue flashes. [[CluelessAesop Pikachu and his lightning attacks then proceeded to appear in]] ''[[CluelessAesop every]]'' [[CluelessAesop episode and movie since]]...



** The actual stinger is that soon after the airing of the episode in question (which alone wasn't responsible for the total seizure count), several news outlets in Japan ''[[WhatAnIdiot aired the offending segment again]]'' as part of stories covering the incident, causing ''more'' seizures...
** The episode being banned entirely is also a bit of an overreaction, since changing the scene to remove the risk of seizures would be a very simple edit[[note]]Though some have argued that there were other times in the episode where other strobe effects were not that much better that didn't get as much attention, perhaps being why it wasn't just as simple of an edit.[[/note]] . Interestingly, after this episode aired OLM sprung into action and went back to edit the first 37 episode to make them free from flashing lights. Some of these carried over into the dub episodes. The "seizureific" versions were uploaded to the internet by the ''{{fansub}}'' group Pokemon-originals in April 2013.

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** The actual stinger is that soon after the airing of the episode in question (which alone wasn't responsible for the total seizure count), several news outlets in Japan ''[[WhatAnIdiot ''[[IdiotBall aired the offending segment again]]'' as part of stories covering the incident, causing ''more'' seizures...
** The episode being banned entirely is also a bit of an overreaction, since changing the scene to remove the risk of seizures would be a very simple edit[[note]]Though some have argued that there were other times in the episode where other strobe effects were not that much better that didn't get as much attention, perhaps being why it wasn't just as simple of an edit.[[/note]] . Interestingly, after this episode aired OLM sprung into action and went back to edit the first 37 episode to make them free from flashing lights. Some of these carried over into the dub episodes. The "seizureific" versions were uploaded to the internet by the ''{{fansub}}'' group Pokemon-originals Pokémon-originals in April 2013.



* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' has a serious case of this when Gohan and Super Perfect Cell are using their Kamehamehas against each other in a final battle. (This was actually edited to be subdued quite a bit in Kai)

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* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' has a serious case of this when Gohan and Super Perfect Cell are using their Kamehamehas against each other in a final battle. (This This was actually edited to be subdued quite a bit in Kai)''Anime/DragonBallKai''.



* ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'' is an interesting example in that it was airing ''contemporaneously'' with the classic ''Pokemon'' example. Its first half features a number of flashing lights of this sort, especially when the villains are engaging in OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness shenanigans. Right around the end of the first arc and into the beginning of the second, though, you notice a massive reduction in such effects... as these episodes entered production after the ''Pokemon'' scandal hit, resulting in Sunrise ''hastily'' re-storyboarding new episodes to avoid such effects.

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* ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'' is an interesting example in that it was airing ''contemporaneously'' with the classic ''Pokemon'' ''Pokémon'' example. Its first half features a number of flashing lights of this sort, especially when the villains are engaging in OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness shenanigans. Right around the end of the first arc and into the beginning of the second, though, you notice a massive reduction in such effects... as these episodes entered production after the ''Pokemon'' ''Pokémon'' scandal hit, resulting in Sunrise ''hastily'' re-storyboarding new episodes to avoid such effects.



* ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'' has an ad that warns of rapidly flashing lights that can cause epileptic fits. The ad itself does everything in its power to cause epileptic fits with all the rapidly changing flashing lights. It makes Pokemon look positively tame in comparison.

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* ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'' has an ad that warns of rapidly flashing lights that can cause epileptic fits. The ad itself does everything in its power to cause epileptic fits with all the rapidly changing flashing lights. It makes Pokemon Pokémon look positively tame in comparison.



* On the season 10 ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "30 Minutes Over Tokyo," Bart watches a robot anime, recognizing it as "that cartoon that causes seizures."[[note]]A parody and reference to the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' example above[[/note]] Sure enough, the show has flashing lights that gives Bart, Lisa, and Marge seizures (Homer initially fakes it because he sees everyone else on the floor doing it). When it cuts to commercial, everyone snaps out of it. When it comes back from commercial, everyone starts seizing again. To drive the point further home, the cartoon is called, "Battling Seizure Robots."

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* On the season 10 ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "30 Minutes Over Tokyo," Bart watches a robot anime, recognizing it as "that cartoon that causes seizures."[[note]]A parody and reference to the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' ''Anime/{{Pokémon}}'' example above[[/note]] Sure enough, the show has flashing lights that gives Bart, Lisa, and Marge seizures (Homer initially fakes it because he sees everyone else on the floor doing it). When it cuts to commercial, everyone snaps out of it. When it comes back from commercial, everyone starts seizing again. To drive the point further home, the cartoon is called, "Battling Seizure Robots."
30th Jan '18 6:12:31 AM SpaceDrake
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* ''GaoGaiGar'' is an interesting example in that it was airing ''contemporaneously'' with the classic ''Pokemon'' example. Its first half features a number of flashing lights of this sort, especially when the villains are engaging in OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness shenanigans. Right around the end of the first arc and into the beginning of the second, though, you notice a massive reduction in such effects... as these episodes entered production after the ''Pokemon'' scandal hit, resulting in Sunrise ''hastily'' re-storyboarding new episodes to avoid such effects.

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* ''GaoGaiGar'' ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'' is an interesting example in that it was airing ''contemporaneously'' with the classic ''Pokemon'' example. Its first half features a number of flashing lights of this sort, especially when the villains are engaging in OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness shenanigans. Right around the end of the first arc and into the beginning of the second, though, you notice a massive reduction in such effects... as these episodes entered production after the ''Pokemon'' scandal hit, resulting in Sunrise ''hastily'' re-storyboarding new episodes to avoid such effects.
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