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8th May '17 11:47:37 PM Ryonne
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* Averted in ''Film/Whiplash'', where the potential for drummers to be great musicians in their own right is treated completely seriously, and much of the focus of the film is on the endless practice, discipline and physical pain required to become genuinely good at drums as opposed to simply keeping the beat.

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* Averted in ''Film/Whiplash'', ''Film/{{Whiplash}}'', where the potential for drummers to be great musicians in their own right is treated completely seriously, and much of the focus of the film is on the endless practice, discipline and physical pain required to become genuinely good at drums as opposed to simply keeping the beat.
3rd May '17 6:45:18 PM PaulA
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* Averted in ''[[Literature/BigendBooks Zero History]]'' by WilliamGibson: Heidi Hyde is a former drummer, but it doesn't seem to have caused any lasting mental handicap.

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* Averted in ''[[Literature/BigendBooks Zero History]]'' ''Literature/ZeroHistory'' by WilliamGibson: Creator/WilliamGibson: Heidi Hyde is a former drummer, but it doesn't seem to have caused any lasting mental handicap.
5th Apr '17 4:12:54 AM mzytryck01
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* Averted in ''Film/Whiplash'', where the potential for drummers to be great musicians in their own right is treated completely seriously, and much of the focus of the film is on the endless practice, discipline and physical pain required to become genuinely good at drums as opposed to simply keeping the beat.
21st Jan '17 4:42:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''WesternAnimation/YellowSubmarine'': Ringo's clearly not as bright as his bandmates, but he seems more of a CloudCuckooLander than anything. [[spoiler: In the end his quick thinking is what frees Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band from their imprisonment, which surprises everyone.
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-->'''George:''' Ringo, I take back all I said. You're a genius.
-->'''Paul:''' Sheer genius!
-->'''Ringo:''' I know, I know, I know.

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* The movie ''WesternAnimation/YellowSubmarine'' does too, but to a lesser extent. Ringo's clearly not as bright as his bandmates, but he seems more of a CloudCuckooLander than anything. [[spoiler: In the end his quick thinking is what frees Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band from their imprisonment, which surprises everyone.]]
-->'''George:''' Ringo, I take back all I said. You're a genius.
-->'''Paul:''' Sheer genius!
-->'''Ringo:''' I know, I know, I know.
21st Jan '17 4:41:08 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Manga/KOn'' has Ritsu Tainaka. As the Light Music Club's drummer, she isn't particularly stupid, just lazy and forgetful. Although the reason she plays the drums is because she thinks playing the guitar or keyboard is too complicated and would frustrate her.

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* ''Manga/KOn'' has Ritsu Tainaka. As the Light Music Club's drummer, she isn't particularly stupid, just lazy and forgetful. Although the reason she plays the drums is because she thinks playing the guitar or keyboard is too complicated and would frustrate her.



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21st Jan '17 4:40:25 AM Morgenthaler
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* The movie YellowSubmarine does too, but to a lesser extent. Ringo's clearly not as bright as his bandmates, but he seems more of a CloudCuckooLander than anything. [[spoiler: In the end his quick thinking is what frees Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band from their imprisonment, which surprises everyone.]]

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* The movie YellowSubmarine ''WesternAnimation/YellowSubmarine'' does too, but to a lesser extent. Ringo's clearly not as bright as his bandmates, but he seems more of a CloudCuckooLander than anything. [[spoiler: In the end his quick thinking is what frees Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band from their imprisonment, which surprises everyone.]]
4th Dec '16 7:44:45 PM Andyroid
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* In the WebAnimation/StrongBadMe "best thing", the drummer of Limozeen was made the FatComicRelief in their [[OneEpisodeWonder short-lived]] BandToon "[[ShowWithinAShow Limozeen: But They're In Space]]!"

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* In the WebAnimation/StrongBadMe WebAnimation/StrongBadEmail "best thing", the drummer of Limozeen was made the FatComicRelief in their [[OneEpisodeWonder short-lived]] BandToon "[[ShowWithinAShow Limozeen: But They're In Space]]!"
4th Dec '16 5:31:10 PM Andyroid
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* In the [[WebAnimation/HomestarRunner Strong Bad E-mail]] "best thing", the drummer of Limozeen was made the [[FatIdiot fat, dumb]] PluckyComicRelief in their [[OneEpisodeWonder short-lived]] BandToon "[[ShowWithinAShow Limozeen: But They're In Space]]!"
-->'''Mary Palaroncini:''' How come they made me fat and have orange hair?\\
'''Larry Palaroncini:''' Because you're the comic relief!

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* In the [[WebAnimation/HomestarRunner Strong Bad E-mail]] WebAnimation/StrongBadMe "best thing", the drummer of Limozeen was made the [[FatIdiot fat, dumb]] PluckyComicRelief FatComicRelief in their [[OneEpisodeWonder short-lived]] BandToon "[[ShowWithinAShow Limozeen: But They're In Space]]!"
-->'''Mary Palaroncini:''' How come they made me fat and have orange red hair?\\
'''Larry Palaroncini:''' Because you're the comic relief!
relief-uh!
25th Nov '16 8:58:30 PM BackgroundGuy
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* Meg White of Music/TheWhiteStripes has had to put up with so much criticism of her drumming style, it's no wonder she retired from music altogether when the band broke up in 2011. Criticisms range from her keeping [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth a simple, unimaginative beat]] to [[DreadfulMusician not being able to play in time at all]]. Bandmate & ex-husband Jack White ardently defended her style, believing that most of the backlash was due to mere sexism and crediting her with being the most important element of the band's garage punk sound, while world-class drummer Brandon Khoo [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oQsKRyihEA beautifully demonstrated the true value of her playing]], [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome even using Ringo Starr as an example]]. Meg wasn't always able to ignore her detractors, saying that it really did get to her sometimes but the rest of the time she could blow it off since she realized her own worth to the band and how vital she was to their sound.
** Meg probably wasn't terribly keen on being in a band to begin with. Jack noted in retrospect that part of why the group broke up was because she had no passion for it; for example, the two had polar opposite reactions to some of their accomplishments. Jack would be over the moon about something they just did in the studio and Meg would more or less shrug in indifference & move on to the next objective. Obviously, she was never one for the rockstar lifestyle, but it's hard to tell how much of her disenchantment with the White Stripes was due to the criticism she received or just not really feeling the band lifestyle in general at some point.

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* Meg White of Music/TheWhiteStripes has had to put up with so much criticism of her drumming style, it's no wonder she retired from music altogether when the band broke up in 2011. Criticisms range from her keeping [[ThreeChordsAndTheTruth a simple, unimaginative beat]] to [[DreadfulMusician not being able to play in time at all]]. Bandmate & ex-husband Jack White ardently defended her style, believing that most of the backlash was due to mere sexism and crediting her with being the most important element of the band's garage punk sound, while world-class drummer Brandon Khoo [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oQsKRyihEA beautifully demonstrated the true value of her playing]], [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome even using Ringo Starr as an example]]. Even Dave Grohl had her back, going as far as to liken her to drumming legends like Bonham and Moon. But Meg wasn't always able to ignore her detractors, saying that it really did get to her sometimes but the rest of the time whereas she could usually just blow it off since she realized her own worth to the band and how vital she was to their sound.
** Meg probably wasn't terribly keen on being in a band to begin with. Jack noted in retrospect that part of why the group broke up was because she had no passion for it; for example, the two had polar opposite reactions to some of their accomplishments. Jack would be over the moon about something they just did in the studio and Meg would more or less shrug in indifference & move on to the next objective. Obviously, she was never one for the rockstar lifestyle, but it's hard to tell how much of her disenchantment with the White Stripes was due to the criticism she received or just not really feeling the band lifestyle in general at some point.
21st Oct '16 8:08:11 PM igordebraga
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* Music/{{Pink}} sings in "So What" that after the waiter gives her table to Jessica Simpson, "I guess I'll go sit with drum boy" - drummers get the kids' table? On the other hand, she compliments that "At least he'll know how to hit" ([[https://youtu.be/FJfFZqTlWrQ?t=1m10s the music video even has the drummer with a]] FunTShirt reading [[DoubleEntendre "I Like to Bang"]]).
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