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7th Aug '16 4:53:24 PM Tauros113
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* Nearly the case in VisualNovel/SharinNoKuni with [[spoiler:Natsumi's planned execution]], but averted.
31st Jul '16 8:57:08 PM Fireblood
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* ''Film/FreeStateOfJones'': It's pretty clear to anyone who knows about the events after the American Civil War that the freedmen and white supporters such as Newton Knight will not make out well. For Newt, his "victory" is simply surviving, while former slave Moses is not so lucky.
16th Jul '16 9:15:15 AM DoctorNemesis
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A cynical viewer may wonder why the hero dying a miserable death after losing everything they ever had would encourage anyone to get on this villain's bad side, but the oppressed masses are animated by the notion that no matter how intimidating the opponent is, it's still possible to resist. These rebels sometimes lose too, which makes them all Doomed Moral Victors. Either that or a lot of people just liked this person, and now they're really pissed.

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A cynical viewer may wonder why the hero dying a miserable death after losing everything they ever had would encourage anyone to get on this villain's bad side, but the oppressed masses are animated by the notion that no matter how intimidating the opponent is, it's still possible to resist. These rebels sometimes lose too, which makes them all Doomed Moral Victors. Either that or a lot of people just liked this person, and now they're really pissed.
pissed. There's also YouCannotKillAnIdea; true, the hero him-or-herself might be dead, but the brave and inspirational way they met their end will ensure their example and ideas will continue to be passed on to others.
10th Jul '16 7:47:58 PM AmbarSonofDeshar
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* ''Literature/{{Timeline 191}}'': Cassius (the setting's analogue for UsefulNotes/VladimirLenin) ultimately fails to bring about the black revolution he'd hoped for, and the Congaree Socialist Republic is crushed by the weight of the Confederate Army. However, the blow he struck against the Confederacy ensures that they lose WWI to the Union, and years later, Cassius's namesake, Cassius Madison, becomes the one to kill Confederate President Jake Featherston, ending the CSA's oppression of its black population and ensuring that newly Re-United States will grant blacks equal rights.
7th Jul '16 8:40:04 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[spoiler:Captain Brenner/O'Brian, TheObiWan of]] ''VideoGame/AdvanceWars: Days of Ruin/Dark Conflict''. [[spoiler:Although he dies, his army unit carries on in his name and TheHero eventually wins.]]

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* [[spoiler:Captain Brenner/O'Brian, TheObiWan the mentor of]] ''VideoGame/AdvanceWars: Days of Ruin/Dark Conflict''. [[spoiler:Although he dies, his army unit carries on in his name and TheHero eventually wins.]]
7th Jun '16 12:14:23 PM lavendermintrose
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* Inverted rather tragically in ''Literature/TheSagaOfDarrenShan'', with [[spoiler: Kurda Smahlt]]. After discovering that his friend is a traitor, Darren exposes the plot, and helps the vampires wipe out [[spoiler: Kurda]]'s allies... only for it to be revealed at the later trial that [[spoiler: Kurda]] was trying to save the vampires from the war that was destined to happen, that would wipe them all out. Darren comes to see his point of view, somewhat, but due to the vampires' HonorBeforeReason attitude, [[spoiler: Kurda is still seen as a traitor and absolute scum, completely dishonored. After Kurda's death, Darren is offered the throne that was to have been Kurda's, and Darren is regarded as a hero for his role in exposing the plot.]] Later on, several characters acknowledge the fact that [[spoiler: Kurda]] had good points that should have been listened to before it even came to that, but it's too little, too late.
1st Jun '16 12:42:25 PM eowynjedi
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** Nearly invoked in ''Discworld/SmallGods'' when Brutha is condemned to die by crucifixion on an iron turtle. Urn wants to rush the altar and save him, but Simony urges him to wait because if Brutha ''dies'', he'll become a martyr and the rebels can use him as a rallying cry. Urn is rather horrified and points out that this cold-blooded calculation is exactly the kind of thing the BigBad who ordered the execution would do.
27th May '16 10:36:42 AM MrThorfan64
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** Prince Oberyn Martell intends to avenge the rape and murder of his sister Elia Martell by [[BloodKnight Ser Gregor Clegane]] "the Mountain that Rides", who also murdered Elia's infant son. [[spoiler:He takes Tyrion Lannister's side in a trial by combat against the Mountain and wounds Gregor, but delays in killing them as he wants a confession that the Mountain performed the murder, and is killed when the Mountain smashes his skull. However, in a way Oberyn still succeeds as he coated his spear with poison he treated to work slowly, leading to the Mountain spending weeks dying in agony.]]
** Davos Seaworth goes to White Harbor to convince the Manderlys to fight for Stannis, but is arrested and sentenced to execution. [[spoiler:Then subverted, Lord Wyman Manderly executes a common criminal in Davos' place and tells Davos he had to work secretly as his son Wylis Manderly was a prisoner. When they are returned he reveals his plans to Davos to restore the Starks.]]
25th May '16 5:20:41 AM Dravencour
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** [[spoiler: Rei's]] death as well. His injuries at the hands of Raoh leaves him with three days before dying horribly, which he uses to hunt down and kill his sworn enemy, before wandering off to die alone so no one will see the carnage.

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** [[spoiler: Rei's]] death as well. His injuries at the hands of Raoh leaves him with three days before dying horribly, which he uses to hunt down and kill his sworn enemy, enemy and ScrewDestiny for Mamiya, before wandering off to die alone so no one will see the carnage.
20th May '16 12:50:00 AM Morgenthaler
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* The obscure, semi-canonical (Bradbury was on the dev team), text-adventure sequel to ''{{Fahrenheit451}}''. Guy manages to break into the Library and find Clarisse (who apparently faked her death at the end of the book), who has stolen a monumental stash of microcassettes containing the contents of the New York Public Library. They lock themselves in a transmitter room long enough to upload the cassettes' content to the Undreground's archives all over the world. They finish their upload, but don't have time to escape when the Firemen bust in and immolate

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* The obscure, semi-canonical (Bradbury was on the dev team), text-adventure sequel to ''{{Fahrenheit451}}''.''Literature/{{Fahrenheit451}}''. Guy manages to break into the Library and find Clarisse (who apparently faked her death at the end of the book), who has stolen a monumental stash of microcassettes containing the contents of the New York Public Library. They lock themselves in a transmitter room long enough to upload the cassettes' content to the Undreground's archives all over the world. They finish their upload, but don't have time to escape when the Firemen bust in and immolate
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