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7th Feb '18 3:21:28 AM MathsAngelicVersion
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* ''{{Kidulthood}}'': the scene where Trife and his friends get revenge on school bully Sam is a favorite with fans of the film who often comment how cool what they do is despite their actions leading to [[spoiler: Trifes death]].

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* ''{{Kidulthood}}'': the scene where Trife and his friends get revenge on school bully Sam is a favorite with fans of the film who often comment how cool what they do is despite their actions leading to [[spoiler: Trifes Trife's death]].


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* In ''WesternAnimation/MickeysTwiceUponAChristmas'', the "Christmas: Impossible" short has this both in and out of universe. In-universe, Scrooge tries to tell Huey, Dewey and Louie to be nice. When they point out that Scrooge became rich, he says it was because he was selfish, HD&L's reaction? "We want to be rich and selfish, too!", followed by talking about some cool stuff they want to buy. Out of universe, it's easy for a viewer to be left with the same feeling as HD&L, as the only drawback to Scrooge's greed was that Santa never got him a bagpipe, which (1) is a weird thing to be sad about (Couldn't he just buy a bagpipe from a store? And why care about a bagpipe when he can buy any expensive toy he wants?), and (2) is rendered moot when Scrooge does get the bagpipe in the end anyway.
6th Feb '18 7:04:22 PM VisitorAlex
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* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV'' has plenty of anti-criminal motifs, it shows how crime and lust for money destroys the lives of opportunist gangsters and how it affects their friends and relatives. However, the missions involving murdering, stealing, and in general causing mayhem in the city, are done in such a way that instead of making crime repulsive, actually makes it look attractive and fun. The characters we encounter, though they are criminals, are often comedic and very likable and not like those we are afraid of in real life. And thus the game became very popular, being one of the best selling games of 2008 and it's still played by millions of gamers who seem not to get its anti-crime message.

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* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV'' has plenty of anti-criminal motifs, it shows how crime and lust for money destroys the lives of opportunist gangsters and how it affects their friends and relatives. However, the missions involving murdering, stealing, and in general causing mayhem in the city, contract killing are done in such a way that instead of making crime repulsive, actually makes it look attractive and fun. The characters we encounter, though they are criminals, are often comedic and very likable and not like those we are afraid of in real life. And thus the game became very popular, being one of the best selling games of 2008 and it's still played by millions of gamers who seem not to get its anti-crime message.



*** Then of course, depending on the ending, all three protagonists can end up with all of their problems solved, ridiculously rich, and with no real repercussions to their actions. It seems that Rockstar dropped the "crime is bad" theme for this game, and they make no effort to show otherwise.
*** Only due to the fact they decided to work for themselves instead of cutting deals with everybody else to survive. Throughout the game, working for other criminals is a thankless and penniless affair. Every job they do for someone else ends with them being ambushed or betrayed. This is highlighted in the non Deathwish ending where the survivors are cast aside as pawns and their clients ends on the far better end of the deal.

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*** Then of course, depending on the ending, all three protagonists can end up with all of their problems solved, ridiculously rich, and with no real repercussions to their actions. It seems that Rockstar dropped the "crime is bad" theme for this game, and they make no effort to show otherwise.
*** Only
'''Only''' due to the fact they decided to work for themselves instead of cutting deals with everybody else to survive. Throughout the game, working for other criminals is a thankless and penniless affair. Every job they do for someone else ends with them being ambushed or betrayed. This is highlighted in the non Deathwish ending where the survivors are cast aside as pawns and their clients ends on the far better end of the deal.
6th Feb '18 8:51:28 AM darkchiefy
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* Creator/MichaelBay seriously dislikes smoking and it is very rare to find an actor smoking in any of his films. Even films like Pearl Harbor, set in the 1940's where smoking was very common among the general population and even more so among military personnel, no one is seen lighting up.
31st Jan '18 8:50:38 AM Lemia
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** And then Cheritz [[BrokenAesop completely broke the above aesop all on their own]] by giving Ray a route of his own branching from the same Another Story created for V's route. This means that, in fact, it is perfectly fine to try to reform the mentally unstable man who kidnapped you with your love and encourage his creepily unhealthy obsession with you. Yay?
23rd Jan '18 9:51:26 AM MBG
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*** You clearly didn't see those adverts. None of those youths thought that they looked 'really cool' - the characters are depicted as universally emaciated, filthy, and acne-riddled. Hardly cool. The 80s, by the way, was the first wave of successful Goth music in the UK. Also, Goths and the characters in the Heroin Really Screws You Up adverts have nothing at all in common. Care to get anything else completely wrong while you're here?



** An ad from the early 2000's depicts two kids in the bathroom at a concert getting high before a cop comes in and busts them. A caption appears on the screen saying "Marijuana can get you busted. Harmless" It's telling viewers that the reason marijuana is bad is simply because it's illegal without giving any adequate explanation for ''why'', which leads the viewer to think that there would be no problem if it was legal.

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** An ad from the early 2000's depicts two kids in the bathroom at a concert getting high before a cop comes in and busts them. A caption appears on the screen saying "Marijuana can get you busted. Harmless" Harmless?" It's telling viewers that the reason marijuana is bad is simply because it's illegal without giving any adequate explanation for ''why'', which leads the viewer to think that there would be no problem if it was legal.



** ''Film/{{Scarface 1932}}'' didn't give Tony Camonte any straight-laced companions (well, his mom); but the studio changed its title to "Scarface: the Shame of a Nation" and added dull scenes of bankers -- not exactly heroes during the Depression -- and a token Italian-American denouncing the Mob. All three films utterly failed to deglamorize their heroes, even in their fall, in part because all three showed them getting their comeuppance [[spoiler: in shootouts where they faced off alone against more and better armed opponents]].

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** ''Film/{{Scarface 1932}}'' didn't give Tony Camonte any straight-laced companions (well, his mom); but the studio changed its title to "Scarface: the Shame of a Nation" and added dull scenes of bankers -- not exactly heroes during the Depression -- and a token Italian-American denouncing the Mob. All three films utterly failed to deglamorize their heroes, even in their fall, in part because all three showed them getting their comeuppance [[spoiler: in shootouts where they faced off alone against more and better armed opponents]]. ''Scarface'' failed so badly at this trope, in fact, that it resulted fifty years later in...
* ''Film/{{Scarface 1983}}''. Even though the entire film is set up to show that Tony's destruction is inevitable, even though he ends up [[LonelyAtTheTop losing or killing everyone and everything]] he cares about, and even though [[spoiler: he ends up floating in his own fountain]], it's hard to watch the movie and not want to be him. Especially during the GoodTimesMontage, set to Paul Engemann's [[EarWorm "Push It to the Limit"]] showing all the material wealth Tony is acquiring, which pretty much gives the {{audience|Reactions}} a picture to give to their own IfIWereARichMan fantasy. The movie is also very popular in the hip hop community due to this appeal and had a huge following among crack dealers in the 80's. (Hence the WhatIf [[VideoGame/ScarfaceTheWorldIsYours video game]] in which you ''get'' to be him, and you get to survive, learn your lesson, and [[BrokenAesop win by rebuilding an even bigger and better criminal empire]].)
22nd Jan '18 9:08:29 PM laserviking42
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** Bank robbers in the 20s and 30s would, while robbing banks, destroy the mortgage and loan records as well as take the money. In the days before centralized record keeping and computers, this served to endear the common man to their side.
21st Jan '18 11:04:45 AM MagBas
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** If you genuinely find the dance moves of an UncannyValley-resident cartoon 'rather seductive', you have worse personal problems than you think.
21st Jan '18 8:17:56 AM MrJeperson
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** ''Film/{{Scarface 1932}}'' didn't give Tony Camonte any straight-laced companions (well, his mom); but the studio changed its title to "Scarface: the Shame of a Nation" and added dull scenes of bankers -- not exactly heroes during the Depression -- and a token Italian-American denouncing the Mob. All three films utterly failed to deglamorize their heroes, even in their fall, in part because all three showed them getting their comeuppance [[spoiler: in shootouts where they faced off alone against more and better armed opponents]]. ''Scarface'' failed so badly at this trope, in fact, that it resulted fifty years later in...
* ''Film/{{Scarface 1983}}''. Even though the entire film is set up to show that Tony's destruction is inevitable, even though he ends up [[LonelyAtTheTop losing or killing everyone and everything]] he cares about, and even though [[spoiler: he ends up floating in his own fountain]], it's hard to watch the movie and not want to be him. Especially during the GoodTimesMontage, set to Paul Engemann's [[EarWorm "Push It to the Limit"]] showing all the material wealth Tony is acquiring, which pretty much gives the {{audience|Reactions}} a picture to give to their own IfIWereARichMan fantasy. The movie is also very popular in the hip hop community due to this appeal and had a huge following among crack dealers in the 80's. (Hence the WhatIf [[VideoGame/ScarfaceTheWorldIsYours video game]] in which you ''get'' to be him, and you get to survive, learn your lesson, and [[BrokenAesop win by rebuilding an even bigger and better criminal empire]].)

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** ''Film/{{Scarface 1932}}'' didn't give Tony Camonte any straight-laced companions (well, his mom); but the studio changed its title to "Scarface: the Shame of a Nation" and added dull scenes of bankers -- not exactly heroes during the Depression -- and a token Italian-American denouncing the Mob. All three films utterly failed to deglamorize their heroes, even in their fall, in part because all three showed them getting their comeuppance [[spoiler: in shootouts where they faced off alone against more and better armed opponents]]. ''Scarface'' failed so badly at this trope, in fact, that it resulted fifty years later in...
* ''Film/{{Scarface 1983}}''. Even though the entire film is set up to show that Tony's destruction is inevitable, even though he ends up [[LonelyAtTheTop losing or killing everyone and everything]] he cares about, and even though [[spoiler: he ends up floating in his own fountain]], it's hard to watch the movie and not want to be him. Especially during the GoodTimesMontage, set to Paul Engemann's [[EarWorm "Push It to the Limit"]] showing all the material wealth Tony is acquiring, which pretty much gives the {{audience|Reactions}} a picture to give to their own IfIWereARichMan fantasy. The movie is also very popular in the hip hop community due to this appeal and had a huge following among crack dealers in the 80's. (Hence the WhatIf [[VideoGame/ScarfaceTheWorldIsYours video game]] in which you ''get'' to be him, and you get to survive, learn your lesson, and [[BrokenAesop win by rebuilding an even bigger and better criminal empire]].)



* ''WesternAnimation/FernGullyTheLastRainforest'' is a rather infamous example for many a 90's kid. An animated film that [[{{Anvilicious}} shoves its message of "save the rainforest" down your throat without a trace of subtlety]] has, as its main antagonist, a charismatic, smooth, and stylish incarnation of pollution. Voiced by Tim Curry. Who has the best musical number in the movie. And is, according to many viewers, the movie's only likable character. He makes pollution seem more than just "fun," and when he turns into a black skeleton wearing a cloak of tar, who cares about the dumb faeries and their dumb forest anymore?! His VillainSong alone, "Toxic Love", could make even the staunchest environmentalist want to chuck some chemicals in the ocean.

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* ''WesternAnimation/FernGullyTheLastRainforest'' is a rather infamous example for many a 90's kid. An animated film that [[{{Anvilicious}} shoves its message of "save the rainforest" down your throat without a trace of subtlety]] has, as its main antagonist, a charismatic, smooth, and stylish charismatic incarnation of pollution. Voiced by Tim Curry. Who pollution, who has the best musical number in the movie. And is, according to many viewers, the movie's only likable character. He makes pollution seem more than just "fun," and when he turns into a black skeleton wearing a cloak of tar, who cares about the dumb faeries and their dumb forest anymore?! His VillainSong alone, "Toxic Love", could make even the staunchest environmentalist want to chuck some chemicals in the ocean.anymore?


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** If you genuinely find the dance moves of an UncannyValley-resident cartoon 'rather seductive', you have worse personal problems than you think.
21st Jan '18 8:09:40 AM MrJeperson
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*** You clearly didn't see those adverts. None of those youths thought that they looked 'really cool' - the characters are depicted as universally emaciated, filthy, and acne-riddled. Hardly cool. The 80s, by the way, was the first wave of successful Goth music in the UK. Also, Goths and the characters in the Heroin Really Screws You Up adverts have nothing at all in common. Care to get anything else completely wrong while you're here?



** An ad from the early 2000's depicts two kids in the bathroom at a concert getting high before a cop comes in and busts them. A caption appears on the screen saying "Marijuana can get you busted. Harmless?" It's telling viewers that the reason marijuana is bad is simply because it's illegal without giving any adequate explanation for ''why'', which leads the viewer to think that there would be no problem if it was legal.

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** An ad from the early 2000's depicts two kids in the bathroom at a concert getting high before a cop comes in and busts them. A caption appears on the screen saying "Marijuana can get you busted. Harmless?" Harmless" It's telling viewers that the reason marijuana is bad is simply because it's illegal without giving any adequate explanation for ''why'', which leads the viewer to think that there would be no problem if it was legal.
3rd Jan '18 6:56:51 AM zeroblade386
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--->'''Bender:''' (looking directly at the viewers) Have you tried turning off the television, sitting down with your kids and ''[[BreadEggsMilkSquick beating them?]]''

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--->'''Bender:''' (looking directly at the viewers) Have you tried turning off the television, sitting down with your kids and ''[[BreadEggsMilkSquick beating hitting them?]]''
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