History Main / DividedStatesOfAmerica

25th Jul '17 4:25:53 PM redandready45
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* ''Literature/{{Catherverse}}'': An Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom series, whose premise is the US breaking apart in the 1930s when the Business Plot takes place and assassinates FDR. By the modern day, the former US and Canada are divided into over a dozen states. The North American states that are the focus are The Industrial Republic of North America [note]covering the Mid-Atlantic states and the Industrial Midwest[/note], the direct SpiritualSuccessor of the USA, the Great Plains United Republic [note]which makes up much of the Great Plains, plus Minnesota[/note], and the Confederate States of America [note]which makes up the former confederacy, minus Texas and Louisiana[/note] which,[[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain unsurprisingly]], is the BigBad of the series.

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* ''Literature/{{Catherverse}}'': An Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom series, whose premise is the US breaking apart in the 1930s when the Business Plot takes place and assassinates FDR. By the modern day, the former US and Canada are divided into over a dozen states. The North American states that are the focus are The Industrial Republic of North America [note]covering [[note]]]covering the Mid-Atlantic states and the Industrial Midwest[/note], Midwest[[/note]]], the direct SpiritualSuccessor of the USA, the Great Plains United Republic [note]which [[note]]which makes up much of the Great Plains, plus Minnesota[/note], Minnesota[[/note]], and the a revived Confederate States of America [note]which [[note]]which makes up the former confederacy, minus Texas and Louisiana[/note] Louisiana[[/note]]] which,[[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain unsurprisingly]], is the BigBad of the series.
25th Jul '17 4:22:25 PM redandready45
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* ''Literature/{{Catherverse}}'': An Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom series, whose premise is the US breaking apart in the 1930s when the Business Plot takes place and assassinates FDR. By the modern day, the former US and Canada are divided into over a dozen states. The North American states that are the focus are The Industrial Republic of North America [note]covering the Mid-Atlantic states and the Industrial Midwest[/note], the direct SpiritualSuccessor of the USA, the Great Plains United Republic [note]which makes up much of the Great Plains, plus Minnesota[/note], and the Confederate States of America [note]which makes up the former confederacy, minus Texas and Louisiana[/note] which,[[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain unsurprisingly]], is the BigBad of the series.
21st Jul '17 10:57:18 AM ZimFan89
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* In ''Literature/AnExaminationOfExtraUniversalSystemsOfGovernment'', the Guatemala Incorporated timeline has an example based on ''The Falcon Cannot Hear'' above. In this universe, a Second American Civil War broke out in the 1930s, which resolved in a ceasefire between variant claimants to legitimacy -- a military government runs the Pacific holdings from Hawaii (though is now a Japanese PuppetState), the Constituent Assembly controls the West Coast and part of the southwest, the British-backed Continental Congress controls most of the center of the continent, the American Soviet Republic controls things from New England to the Great Lakes and down to part of the Upper South, and a remnant of the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist "White"]] movement controls Florida. There are also several breakaways -- Maine declared independence and eventually joined Canada (taking part of New Hampshire with it), most of the Deep South and part of the Upper South is the black socialist Republic of New Africa, there's a warlord state running things in the region surrounding the Grand Canyon, and the US Navy forces in Guantanamo (while technically loyal to the military government) run it as a ''de facto'' city-state.
15th Jul '17 2:26:45 PM thatother1dude
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* Sometime after the United States landed a man on the moon in the ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' series, each US state was organized into one of Thirteen Commonwealths, with [[ExpandedStatesofAmerica Canada later annexed as a fourteenth Commonwealth]] shortly before the start of the [[WorldWarIII Great War]]. The hope was that the creation of a new layer of bureaucracy between the state and federal level would help end political strife and would help resolve common regional concerns shared by states within those Commonwealths. In reality, it created even ''more'' civil and political strife, as the Commonwealths viciously competed against one another and the federal government to promote their own interests above the others. The energy crisis, wars, New Plague, and political oppression only made things worse. In the aftermath of the Great War, social and political organization would rarely exceed the community level.

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* Sometime after the United States landed a man on the moon in the ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' series, each US state [[DifferentStatesOfAmerica was organized into one of Thirteen Commonwealths, Commonwealths]], with [[ExpandedStatesofAmerica Canada later annexed as a fourteenth Commonwealth]] shortly before the start of the [[WorldWarIII Great War]]. The hope was that the creation of a new layer of bureaucracy between the state and federal level would help end political strife and would help resolve common regional concerns shared by states within those Commonwealths. In reality, it created even ''more'' civil and political strife, as the Commonwealths viciously competed against one another and the federal government to promote their own interests above the others. The energy crisis, wars, New Plague, and political oppression only made things worse. In the aftermath of the Great War, social and political organization would rarely exceed the community level.
30th Jun '17 9:56:29 AM Allronix
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* Even within the states, the division isn't so much [[https://www.thenation.com/article/urban-archipelago/ red state/blue state]] [[https://newrepublic.com/article/106716/gop-gives-cities as it is urban versus rural]]. The 2016 presidential election had the majority of urban areas (which saw economic growth in the Obama administration) voting for Clinton. But outside the cities, where the recovery had been sluggish or hadn't reached them at all, decided to vote Trump, which shocked urban voters who believed the election was a sure thing for Clinton.
24th Jun '17 12:01:54 AM Ryulong
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** The democratic United States Of America is reduced to the states of Washington, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.
** The Russo-American Alliance consists of Alaska, Hawaii, California, Oregon, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania, and all of the rest of the New England states. They become minor allies to the main characters in Appleseed.

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** The democratic rump state of the United States Of of America is reduced to the states of Washington, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Wisconsin.Iowa.
** The Russo-American Alliance consists of Alaska, Hawaii, California, Oregon, Nevada, Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Conecticut, Rhode Island, and all of the rest of the New England states.York. They become minor allies to the main characters in Appleseed.
21st Jun '17 1:28:01 AM Mr.Bubbles
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* Briefly mentioned in ''[[Blog/ThePredespairKids The Despair Kids]],'' where there are multiple American [[LaResistance resistance groups]] fighting the Ultimate Despairs. However, the Alaskan Group seems less like a resistance movement and more of a separatist one.
17th Jun '17 10:49:51 AM kouta
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*** If you go to Culver, IN you will find a whole bunch of locacls who hate people from Chicago, Indianapolis, South Bend, and pretty much any other major city or country (the HS owns an airport). When I was little it was still remote enough that I could jog around the lake without being bothered. That is not the case today and the twitchy visitors aren't local and very quick to point a firearm at you.

2nd Jun '17 1:05:55 AM PaulA
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** Another Heinlein setting (from his short story "If This Goes On...") had an oppressive theocracy as one part of a divided U.S. The theocracy ruled pretty much the whole U.S., with the exception of Hawaii (mentioned as an independent republic). His novel ''Literature/TheCatWhoWalksThroughWalls'' had this as well. The theocracy, started by the prophet cum President Nehemiah Scudder, is part of Heinlein's "Future History," a title applied to a large percentage of his work which all takes place in the same Universe. Consequently, this version of the United States appears in much of Heinlein's fiction, though it may not be mentioned directly.

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** Another Heinlein The setting (from his short story "If This Goes On...") of the novella "Literature/IfThisGoesOn" had an oppressive theocracy as one part of a divided U.S. The theocracy ruled pretty much the whole U.S., with the exception of Hawaii (mentioned as an independent republic). His novel ''Literature/TheCatWhoWalksThroughWalls'' had this as well. The theocracy, started by the prophet cum President Nehemiah Scudder, is part of Heinlein's "Future History," a title applied to a large percentage of his work which all takes place in the same Universe. Consequently, this version of the United States appears in much of Heinlein's fiction, though it may not be mentioned directly.
18th May '17 10:05:47 AM Jacob175
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* In ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork'' and it's sequel, ''Film/EscapeFromLA'', the title cities have been deliberately cut off from the rest of the country and turned into prison facilities. Still, the United States has also apparently expanded internationally: the second film mentions Bangkok as a U.S. territory.

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* In ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork'' and it's its sequel, ''Film/EscapeFromLA'', the title cities have been deliberately cut off from the rest of the country and turned into prison facilities. Still, the United States has also apparently expanded internationally: the second film mentions Bangkok as a U.S. territory.



* Another Turtledove work, ''The Vally-Westside War'', depicts a US even far more throughly broken up in the aftermath of a nuclear war in 1967. A hundred years later, there are a score of sovereign nations in the territory of the city of Los Angles alone - each with its own national pride, specific system of government, hereditary enemies, miniature national army and even protective tariffs to defend the national product. In the whole of the former US territory there must be many thousands of such mini-states.

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* Another Turtledove work, ''The Vally-Westside War'', depicts a US even far more throughly thoroughly broken up in the aftermath of a nuclear war in 1967. A hundred years later, there are a score of sovereign nations in the territory of the city of Los Angles alone - each with its own national pride, specific system of government, hereditary enemies, miniature national army and even protective tariffs to defend the national product. In the whole of the former US territory there must be many thousands of such mini-states.



* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'': The central premise is the dissolution of the United States owing to a combination of hyperinflation, pestilence, and disobedience in the face of growing lawlessness. The heroes occupy the Northern Confederacy/Victoria, a deeply conservative version of New England, and in the South a New Confederacy forms, torn between it's cosmopolitan and rural elements. Past that, Wisconsin is taken over by Nazis, the 'Party of the Will.' Insane parodies of 'Deep Greener' enviornmentalists take over the Pacific Northwest, forming Cascadia. California is renamed Azania, moving the capital to the Berkley campus and outlawing men. The rest is overrun by 'orcs' as minority gangs and rioters are called in-story.

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* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'': The central premise is the dissolution of the United States owing to a combination of hyperinflation, pestilence, and disobedience in the face of growing lawlessness. The heroes occupy the Northern Confederacy/Victoria, a deeply conservative version of New England, and in the South a New Confederacy forms, torn between it's cosmopolitan and rural elements. Past that, Wisconsin is taken over by Nazis, the 'Party of the Will.' Insane parodies of 'Deep Greener' enviornmentalists environmentalists take over the Pacific Northwest, forming Cascadia. California is renamed Azania, moving the capital to the Berkley campus and outlawing men. The rest is overrun by 'orcs' as minority gangs and rioters are called in-story.



* In ''Fire On The Mountain'', John Brown enlists Harriet Tubman's aid in his raid on Harper's Ferry and thanks to her support, is successful. As a result, it sparks of a series of slave revolts that coalesce into "Nova Africa", a socialist republic run by former slaves made up of the states that would have become the Confederacy.[[note]]The idea was based on the real life seperatist/social movement "The Republic of New Afrika", which sought to secede states in the Deep South from the United States by a referendum of African Americans and form a new country[[/note]] Additionally, Mexico has taken advantage of the situation by reclaiming California and Texas. A Civil War does still take place, with Abraham Lincoln attempting to reclaim the former states, but the Union ultimately is defeated.

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* In ''Fire On The Mountain'', John Brown enlists Harriet Tubman's aid in his raid on Harper's Ferry and thanks to her support, is successful. As a result, it sparks of a series of slave revolts that coalesce into "Nova Africa", a socialist republic run by former slaves made up of the states that would have become the Confederacy.[[note]]The idea was based on the real life seperatist/social separatist/social movement "The Republic of New Afrika", which sought to secede states in the Deep South from the United States by a referendum of African Americans and form a new country[[/note]] Additionally, Mexico has taken advantage of the situation by reclaiming California and Texas. A Civil War does still take place, with Abraham Lincoln attempting to reclaim the former states, but the Union ultimately is defeated.


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* Referenced in ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000''. Near the end of the movie ''Film/{{Squirm}}'', which takes place in the southern U.S., Crow gets aggravated and tells the South to go ahead and secede again, claiming the North won't stop them this time. Mike quickly tells the South not to listen to the "sad little robot".
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