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4th Nov '17 4:17:02 PM KYCubbie
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* The ''Literature/{{Deathlands}}'' action/adventure novels (by Jack Adrian et al) has a [[AfterTheEnd post-nuclear United States]] consisting entirely of feudal baronies, as no-one has the technology to control anything larger.

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* The ''Literature/{{Deathlands}}'' action/adventure novels (by Jack Adrian et al) has a [[AfterTheEnd post-nuclear United States]] consisting entirely of feudal baronies, as no-one no one has the technology to control anything larger.



* In Creator/HarryTurtledove's AlternateHistory/sci-fi work ''Disunited States of America'', every state becomes its own country after the United States cease to exist because they kept the Articles of Confederation. California is an economic and technological superpower in the region and is one of the most liberal societies, while many former slave-owning states in the South have a racial caste/hierarchy/apartheid system where the white people are the top of the ladder while the blacks are treated as trash (with the exception of Mississippi, where the racial oppression is reversed). Some states are also geographically different, including a united Virginia, a united Carolina, and the state of Boone (Kentucky and half of Tennessee). Since every state is its own country, there are many conflicts in North America, such as the Florida Intervention (the state was forcibly split into three parts, one of which becomes owned by Cuba). Most of the plot centers around Virginia, where Ohio decided to piss off that state and start a war by spreading a genetically modified measles virus and supplying weapons to the oppressed black population in Virginia.
* Another Turtledove work, ''The Vally-Westside War'', depicts a US even far more thoroughly broken up in the aftermath of a nuclear war in 1967. A hundred years later, there are a score of sovereign nations in the territory of the city of Los Angles alone - each with its own national pride, specific system of government, hereditary enemies, miniature national army and even protective tariffs to defend the national product. In the whole of the former US territory there must be many thousands of such mini-states.

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* In Creator/HarryTurtledove's AlternateHistory/sci-fi work ''Disunited States of America'', every state becomes its own country after the United States cease ceases to exist because they kept the Articles of Confederation. California is an economic and technological superpower in the region and is one of the most liberal societies, while many former slave-owning states in the South have a racial caste/hierarchy/apartheid system where the white people are the top of the ladder while the blacks are treated as trash (with the exception of Mississippi, where the racial oppression is reversed). Some states are also geographically different, including a united Virginia, a united Carolina, and the state of Boone (Kentucky and half of Tennessee). Since every state is its own country, there are many conflicts in North America, such as the Florida Intervention (the state was forcibly split into three parts, one of which becomes owned by Cuba). Most of the plot centers around Virginia, where Ohio decided to piss off that state and start a war by spreading a genetically modified measles virus and supplying weapons to the oppressed black population in Virginia.
* Another Turtledove work, ''The Vally-Westside War'', depicts a US even far more thoroughly broken up in the aftermath of a nuclear war in 1967. A hundred years later, there are a score of sovereign nations in the territory of the city of Los Angles Angeles alone - each with its own national pride, specific system of government, hereditary enemies, miniature national army and even protective tariffs to defend the national product. In the whole of the former US territory there must be many thousands of such mini-states.



* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'': The central premise is the dissolution of the United States owing to a combination of hyperinflation, pestilence, and disobedience in the face of growing lawlessness. The heroes occupy the Northern Confederacy/Victoria, a deeply conservative version of New England, and in the South a New Confederacy forms, torn between it's cosmopolitan and rural elements. Past that, Wisconsin is taken over by Nazis, the 'Party of the Will.' Insane parodies of 'Deep Greener' environmentalists take over the Pacific Northwest, forming Cascadia. California is renamed Azania, moving the capital to the Berkley campus and outlawing men. The rest is overrun by 'orcs' as minority gangs and rioters are called in-story.

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* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'': The central premise is the dissolution of the United States owing to a combination of hyperinflation, pestilence, and disobedience in the face of growing lawlessness. The heroes occupy the Northern Confederacy/Victoria, a deeply conservative version of New England, and in the South a New Confederacy forms, torn between it's its cosmopolitan and rural elements. Past that, Wisconsin is taken over by Nazis, the 'Party of the Will.' Will'. Insane parodies of 'Deep Greener' environmentalists take over the Pacific Northwest, forming Cascadia. California is renamed Azania, moving the capital to the Berkley campus and outlawing men. The rest is overrun by 'orcs' as minority gangs and rioters are called in-story.



* The legalities involved in state secession can go several ways. On one hand, as all thirteen of the original colonies predate the United States by definition, since it was these states which ratified the Constitution and brought the federal government into existence. Under the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_theory Compact Theory]] of government, any U.S. state can lawfully secede from the Union if the state legislature decides to do so. On the other hand, the Civil War made it clear that on the topic of secession, MightMakesRight, and the US Supreme Court additionally ruled in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White Texas v. White]] that unilateral secession is illegal [[note]]*: The idea being that the US was originally founded under the Articles of Confederation which specified that the states would stand in "perpetual union," and that the Constitution specifies that it was written "to form a more perfect union." The court ruled that a union that was even "more perfect" than "perpetual" could not, logically, be broken unilaterally.[[/note]]. Additionally, the Confederate Constitution made it clear that the Confederacy wouldn't look too kindly on states attempting to secede from ''it'' (Georgia came close to trying).

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* The legalities involved in state secession can go several ways. On one hand, as all thirteen of the original colonies predate the United States by definition, since it was these states which ratified the Constitution and brought the federal government into existence. Under the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_theory Compact Theory]] of government, any U.S. state can lawfully secede from the Union if the state legislature decides to do so. On the other hand, the Civil War made it clear that on the topic of secession, MightMakesRight, and the US Supreme Court additionally ruled in [[http://en.''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White Texas v. White]] White]]'' that unilateral secession is illegal [[note]]*: The idea being that the US was originally founded under the Articles of Confederation which specified that the states would stand in "perpetual union," and that the Constitution specifies that it was written "to form a more perfect union." The court ruled that a union that was even "more perfect" than "perpetual" could not, logically, be broken unilaterally.[[/note]]. Additionally, the Confederate Constitution made it clear that the Confederacy wouldn't look too kindly on states attempting to secede from ''it'' (Georgia came close to trying).



** Most of Indiana is fairly red, with notable exceptions being the Indianapolis area, the South Bend area, Northwest Indiana, and Bloomington (home to Indiana University.) At a speaking event that UsefulNotes/NeilDeGrasseTyson hosted in South Bend, Tyson joked that finding the cities on a map of Indiana was pretty easy, since they were marked in blue! [[note]]*:For those of you unfamiliar with American politics, blue is the color used to represent Democrats, and is more often than not big in urban areas, where as red is used to mark Republicans, and is more often than not found in rural areas. Tyson was referring to an election map that showed which county in the state voted for which party.[[/note]]
** Bloomington is often called the "San Fransisco" of Indiana. Within city limits, it's a very cosmopolitan city, with bike lanes, diverse populace, majority Democrat government and policies, and out and proud far left organizations. Go a few miles out of town, and it's a complete 180 on politics. People from outside of the country, especially non-white foreigners, are usually advised that while Bloomington is open and welcome, outside of the city may not be as accommodating.

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** Most of Indiana is fairly red, with notable exceptions being the Indianapolis area, the South Bend area, Northwest Indiana, and Bloomington (home to the main campus of Indiana University.) University). At a speaking event that UsefulNotes/NeilDeGrasseTyson hosted in South Bend, Tyson joked that finding the cities on a map of Indiana was pretty easy, since they were marked in blue! [[note]]*:For those of you unfamiliar with American politics, blue is the color used to represent Democrats, and is more often than not big in urban areas, where as red is used to mark Republicans, and is more often than not found in rural areas. Tyson was referring to an election map that showed which county in the state voted for which party.[[/note]]
** Bloomington is often called the "San Fransisco" Francisco" of Indiana. Within city limits, it's a very cosmopolitan city, with bike lanes, diverse populace, majority Democrat government and policies, and out and proud far left organizations. Go a few miles out of town, and it's a complete 180 on politics. People from outside of the country, especially non-white foreigners, are usually advised that while Bloomington is open and welcome, outside of the city may not be as accommodating.



* In the 2002 edition of the Encyclopedia of Stateless Nations, the author defines a stateless nation as a group that self identifies as a distinctive group, displaying outward trappings of a national identity (especially, but not always, a flag) and the formation of political pressure groups for great autonomy. It has within the United States: New Englanders, Texans, Southerners, Californians, Mormons, at least five American Indian nations, Alaskans, and Cajuns.
* The infamous [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland_map Jesusland Map,]] which shows how the U.S. tends to split in half in terms of political candidates. With the exception of a few "swing states," it's a pretty decent guide to political leanings in the U.S.

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* In the 2002 edition of the Encyclopedia ''Encyclopedia of Stateless Nations, Nations'', the author defines a stateless nation as a group that self identifies as a distinctive group, displaying outward trappings of a national identity (especially, but not always, a flag) and the formation of political pressure groups for great autonomy. It has within the United States: New Englanders, Texans, Southerners, Californians, Mormons, at least five American Indian nations, Alaskans, and Cajuns.
* The infamous [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland_map Jesusland Map,]] Map]], which shows how the U.S. tends to split in half in terms of political candidates. With the exception of a few "swing states," states", it's a pretty decent guide to political leanings in the U.S.


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** A less radical proposal would be for all other states to allocate their electoral votes as Maine and Nebraska now do. In both states, the winner of the statewide vote is guaranteed only the two electoral votes corresponding to their U.S. Senators. Each remaining electoral vote goes to the winner of each individual U.S. House district. However, this doesn't account for congressional gerrymandering.
3rd Nov '17 7:37:57 AM samhuddy
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** Another point brought up against this is that California's economic power is rooted in its large ports for trade between the United States and the rest of the Pacific as well as having the rest of the US as a common market for Californian goods.
** Support for independence plummeted, however, after California National Party leader Louis Marinelli suspiciously emigrated to Russia.
29th Oct '17 6:18:21 PM zarpaulus
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'''s back history includes the secession and/or annexation of parts of the US (and other nations) as corporations and mystic elements cause social upheaval. The map in the back of the Fourth Edition book splits what used to be the United States into eight separate nations, with three more in what was Canada. Mexico has absorbed much of the Southwest into the new nation of Aztlan. Probably the most entertaining: California spent so long debating over whether or not to secede that the UCAS (United Canadian-American States) finally got sick of it and ''threw California out of the country'', creating the California Free State.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'''s back history includes the secession and/or annexation of parts of the US (and other nations) as corporations and mystic elements cause social upheaval. The map [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/8f/3b/ff8f3bdc98acdd608e580423144abf8d.jpg map]] in the back of the Fourth Edition book splits what used to be the United States into eight separate nations, with three more in what was Canada. Mexico has absorbed much of the Southwest into the new nation of Aztlan. Probably the most entertaining: California spent so long debating over whether or not to secede that the UCAS (United Canadian-American States) finally got sick of it and ''threw California out of the country'', creating the California Free State.
28th Oct '17 10:34:46 PM Actua11y
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* The descendants of the UsefulNotes/NativeAmerican tribes coming together to form a new nation, complete with BraidsBeadsAndBuckskins. Never mind the cultural differences between the tribes and for most it would mean abandoning their sacred lands for another tribe's lands.

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* The descendants of the UsefulNotes/NativeAmerican tribes coming together to form a new nation, complete with BraidsBeadsAndBuckskins. Never mind the cultural differences between the tribes and for most most, it would mean abandoning their sacred lands for another tribe's lands.



A downplayed version of this trope can include mentioning this in the fiction's history, but never really going over overt detail of it. If a work refers to the historical Civil War as "the first American Civil War", or something of the like, this trope is in play.

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A downplayed version of this trope can include mentioning this in the fiction's history, but never really going in over overt detail of it. If a work refers to the historical Civil War as "the first American Civil War", or something of the like, this trope is in play.



** The Russo-American Alliance consists of Alaska, Hawaii, California, Oregon, Nevada, Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Conecticut, Rhode Island, and New York. They become minor allies to the main characters in Appleseed.

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** The Russo-American Alliance consists of Alaska, Hawaii, California, Oregon, Nevada, Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Conecticut, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New York. They become minor allies to the main characters in Appleseed.



* Played straight in the Franchise/{{Superman}} story ''[[ComicBook/SupermanRedSon Red Son]]''. The USA experiences a second civil war, with 16 "prodigal states" (including Georgia) successfully seceding. [[spoiler: America gets better, but it takes [[PresidentEvil President Lex Luthor]] to do so.]]
* In the ''ComicBook/OldManLogan'' story arc, the villains took over the US and it gotten broken up in several pieces with the US being the original thirteen colonies.

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* Played straight in the Franchise/{{Superman}} story ''[[ComicBook/SupermanRedSon Red Son]]''. The USA experiences a second civil war, with 16 "prodigal states" (including Georgia) successfully seceding. [[spoiler: America [[spoiler:America gets better, but it takes [[PresidentEvil President Lex Luthor]] to do so.]]
* In the ''ComicBook/OldManLogan'' story arc, the villains took over the US and it gotten got broken up in several pieces with the US being the original thirteen colonies.



* ''ComicBook/DallasBarr'' had the Florida keys successfully seceding and forming the Conch republic.
* In the alternate version of ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' shown in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'', America is divided in twain between the Iron, ruled by [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] and the Blue, ruled by [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve Rogers]]. The Iron being analogous to the Eastern US with the Blue being the west, and St Louis, which was devastated during the escape from the Negative Zone prison, is the boundary between the two. Both sides see their side as an {{Utopia}}: The Iron clamps down on certain civil liberties, such as superpowers, but is very prosperous and growing, with many seeing them as a legitimate nation. The Blue is a free nation where there's only two real rules: don't wreck shit and don't be a deadbeat. However, most of the Blue is barren land where places to grow food is tough and other nations refuse to recognize it as anything more than a rogue state. The Iron, however, is ''too'' prosperous and is growing out of control.
* In the Creator/BoomStudios comic continuation of ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork'', it's shown that Florida has seceded and declared itself a free republic after being taken over by an anarchist militia led by a pair of adolescents who have somehow convinced their followers that they're {{Physical God}}s. They've gotten away with this for so long because they bought Missile Crisis era nukes off of Cuba and buried them along Florida's sole border, threatening to set them off if the US army moves in. [[spoiler: Snake eventually sets them off to spite both sides, turning Florida into an island.]] A map glimpsed in one panel suggests that other states are in similar states of unrest.

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* ''ComicBook/DallasBarr'' had the Florida keys successfully seceding and forming the Conch republic.
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* In the alternate version of ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' shown in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'', America is divided in twain between the Iron, ruled by [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] and the Blue, ruled by [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve Rogers]]. The Iron being analogous to the Eastern US with the Blue being the west, and St Louis, which was devastated during the escape from the Negative Zone prison, is the boundary between the two. Both sides see their side as an {{Utopia}}: The Iron clamps down on certain civil liberties, such as superpowers, but is very prosperous and growing, with many seeing them as a legitimate nation. The Blue is a free nation where there's there're only two real rules: don't wreck shit and don't be a deadbeat. However, most of the Blue is barren land where places to grow food is tough and other nations refuse to recognize it as anything more than a rogue state. The Iron, however, is ''too'' prosperous and is growing out of control.
* In the Creator/BoomStudios comic continuation of ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork'', it's shown that Florida has seceded and declared itself a free republic after being taken over by an anarchist militia led by a pair of adolescents who have somehow convinced their followers that they're {{Physical God}}s. They've gotten away with this for so long because they bought Missile Crisis era nukes off of Cuba and buried them along Florida's sole border, threatening to set them off if the US army moves in. [[spoiler: Snake [[spoiler:Snake eventually sets them off to spite both sides, turning Florida into an island.]] A map glimpsed in one panel suggests that other states are in similar states of unrest.



* In ''Broken Angel'' by Sigmund Brouwer, Appalachia is a [[{{Dystopia}} dystopian]] theocracy independent from the United States.

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* In ''Broken Angel'' by Sigmund Brouwer, Appalachia is a [[{{Dystopia}} dystopian]] {{Dystopia}}n theocracy independent from the United States.



* In ''After America'', John Birmingham's second book in his ''Wave'' trilogy about a mysterious energy field called "the Wave" that wipes out the populations of huge chunks of Canada, the United States, Mexico and Cuba (especially the United States, only Alaska, Hawaii and a small piece of Washington state are unscathed) then keeps those sections unenterable for a year before disappearing, most of the continental US remains uninhabited three years after with a renegade general becoming the Governor of Texas and running it as a quasi independent state, Manhattan being a battleground between jihadis, pirates, European mobsters and the reestablished US government and said government, based out of Seattle, trying to create seed colonies scattered around the country. [[spoiler: By the end of the trilogy both Manhattan and Texas are back under control]].

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* In ''After America'', John Birmingham's second book in his ''Wave'' trilogy about a mysterious energy field called "the Wave" that wipes out the populations of huge chunks of Canada, the United States, Mexico and Cuba (especially the United States, only Alaska, Hawaii and a small piece of Washington state are unscathed) then keeps those sections unenterable for a year before disappearing, most of the continental US remains uninhabited three years after with a renegade general becoming the Governor of Texas and running it as a quasi independent quasi-independent state, Manhattan being a battleground between jihadis, pirates, European mobsters and the reestablished US government and said government, based out of Seattle, trying to create seed colonies scattered around the country. [[spoiler: By [[spoiler:By the end of the trilogy both Manhattan and Texas are back under control]].



* In ''Literature/ThePassage'' both California and Texas secede when the Vampire Apocalypse hits. [[spoiler: California didn't last. Nearly a century later the Republic of Texas is still a going concern.]]
* In Creator/MikeResnick's ''The Buntline Special'' the United States of America's border, as of 1881 stops at the Mississipii River thanks to Indian (specifically Cheyenne and Apache) magic. There are white settlements west of the river but they are independent entities and exist on Indian sufferance.

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* In ''Literature/ThePassage'' both California and Texas secede when the Vampire Apocalypse hits. [[spoiler: California [[spoiler:California didn't last. Nearly a century later the Republic of Texas is still a going concern.]]
* In Creator/MikeResnick's ''The Buntline Special'' the United States of America's border, as of 1881 stops at the Mississipii Mississippi River thanks to Indian (specifically Cheyenne and Apache) magic. There are white settlements west of the river but they are independent entities and exist on Indian sufferance.



* In Creator/MattRuff's ''The Mirage'' the Christian States of America is composed of 17 States, 18 after Mississipii joins in 1990. An attempt to annex Louisiana results in the Mexican Gulf War. There is also an Evangelical Republic of Texas that also claims Oklahoma, New Mexico and the Mexican state of Coahuila although the inhabitants of these place all beg to differ, a Rocky Mountain Nation that controls,more in theory than fact, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana and the Dakotas because it itself is split up into small tribal factions, a Mormon nation although it's based in Missouri rather than Utah and a Pentacostal Heartland State of Gilead. How big the latter is is unstated but Tennesee, Kentucky, Ohio and Michigan form it's eastern edge.

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* In Creator/MattRuff's ''The Mirage'' the Christian States of America is composed of 17 States, 18 after Mississipii Mississippi joins in 1990. An attempt to annex Louisiana results in the Mexican Gulf War. There is also an Evangelical Republic of Texas that also claims Oklahoma, New Mexico and the Mexican state of Coahuila although the inhabitants of these place all beg to differ, a Rocky Mountain Nation that controls,more in theory than fact, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana and the Dakotas because it itself is split up into small tribal factions, a Mormon nation although it's based in Missouri rather than Utah and a Pentacostal Heartland State of Gilead. How big the latter is is unstated but Tennesee, Kentucky, Ohio and Michigan form it's eastern edge.



* In ''Metatropolis'' a series of environmental and energy crisises have reverted civilization into city-states. There's the anarcho-environmentalist community of Cascadiopolis hidden in TheOtherRainforest, the decaying slums of Detroit, the tightly controlled "zero-footprint" city of New St. Louis...

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* In ''Metatropolis'' a series of environmental and energy crisises crises have reverted civilization into city-states. There's the anarcho-environmentalist community of Cascadiopolis hidden in TheOtherRainforest, the decaying slums of Detroit, the tightly controlled "zero-footprint" city of New St. Louis...



* In ''Fire On The Mountain'', John Brown enlists Harriet Tubman's aid in his raid on Harper's Ferry and thanks to her support, is successful. As a result, it sparks of a series of slave revolts that coalesce into "Nova Africa", a socialist republic run by former slaves made up of the states that would have become the Confederacy.[[note]]The idea was based on the real life separatist/social movement "The Republic of New Afrika", which sought to secede states in the Deep South from the United States by a referendum of African Americans and form a new country[[/note]] Additionally, Mexico has taken advantage of the situation by reclaiming California and Texas. A Civil War does still take place, with Abraham Lincoln attempting to reclaim the former states, but the Union ultimately is defeated.

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* In ''Fire On The Mountain'', John Brown enlists Harriet Tubman's aid in his raid on Harper's Ferry and thanks to her support, is successful. As a result, it sparks of a series of slave revolts that coalesce into "Nova Africa", a socialist republic run by former slaves made up of the states that would have become the Confederacy.[[note]]The idea was based on the real life real-life separatist/social movement "The Republic of New Afrika", which sought to secede states in the Deep South from the United States by a referendum of African Americans and form a new country[[/note]] Additionally, Mexico has taken advantage of the situation by reclaiming California and Texas. A Civil War does still take place, with Abraham Lincoln attempting to reclaim the former states, but the Union ultimately is defeated.



* ''Series/{{Jericho}}'': Has two federal governments by Season 2 in the wake of a CosyCatastrophe; the larger of the two's flag is at the top of this article. It is the Allied States of America, a corporate dictatorship [[spoiler: ( at least some of whose leaders were behind the catastrophe)]] which rules the states west of the Mississippi (except Texas) and has its capital in Cheyenne, Wyoming. The other is what's left of the legitimate federal government, with its capital in Columbus, Ohio [[spoiler: (notably the city Hawkins was supposed to deliver his bomb to)]]. Off on its own, able to tip the balance, is the fully independent Republic of Texas. Season 1 makes a mention of ''six'' federal governments, and briefly shows a map with Sacramento, California; Cheyenne, Wyoming; San Antonio, Texas; Columbus, Ohio; Albany, New York; and Montgomery, Alabama marked as capitals. There is also mention of a Senator from Oregon and a Senator from Alabama making claims to the Presidency. By season 2, though, this has been narrowed down to the above two governments and the Republic of Texas.
** When discussing the six factions in Season 1 mentioned above, it is stated that one of those claiming the Presidency, the man who eventually becomes the (off-screen) leader of the eastern States in Season two and thus the United States, is actually the legal and legitimate successor to the Presidency as he was a member of the late President's cabinet when the attacks occurred. However, as Russell explains, there are [[WeAREStrugglingTogether "five other guys who seem to think the attacks have changed the rules"]]. Not surprising given the disaster the country has experienced, which involves [[spoiler: ''23 cities'' destroyed by]] nuclear terrorism, [[spoiler: not to mention that one of the upstarts was very likely involved in the attacks]]. Naturally there's going to be some chaos. Also each person claiming the Presidency is backed by parts of the military. Again this is narrowed to the two above plus Texas by Season 2, the latter of whom will tip the balance to whoever can recruit them.
** [[spoiler: By the end of Season 2, Jake and Hawkins have exposed the Cheyenne government's conspiracy and treason, causing Texas to rejoin the United States under the legitimate government. It is then flat out said by Chavez and Jake that a Second American Civil War is about to begin. And sure enough, the six-issue comic sequel series starts with the war's beginning]].

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* ''Series/{{Jericho}}'': Has two federal governments by Season 2 in the wake of a CosyCatastrophe; the larger of the two's flag is at the top of this article. It is the Allied States of America, a corporate dictatorship [[spoiler: ( [[spoiler:( at least some of whose leaders were behind the catastrophe)]] which rules the states west of the Mississippi (except Texas) and has its capital in Cheyenne, Wyoming. The other is what's left of the legitimate federal government, with its capital in Columbus, Ohio [[spoiler: (notably [[spoiler:(notably the city Hawkins was supposed to deliver his bomb to)]]. Off on its own, able to tip the balance, is the fully independent Republic of Texas. Season 1 makes a mention of ''six'' federal governments, and briefly shows a map with Sacramento, California; Cheyenne, Wyoming; San Antonio, Texas; Columbus, Ohio; Albany, New York; and Montgomery, Alabama marked as capitals. There is also mention of a Senator from Oregon and a Senator from Alabama making claims to the Presidency. By season 2, though, this has been narrowed down to the above two governments and the Republic of Texas.
** When discussing the six factions in Season 1 mentioned above, it is stated that one of those claiming the Presidency, the man who eventually becomes the (off-screen) leader of the eastern States in Season two and thus the United States, is actually the legal and legitimate successor to the Presidency as he was a member of the late President's cabinet when the attacks occurred. However, as Russell explains, there are [[WeAREStrugglingTogether "five other guys who seem to think the attacks have changed the rules"]]. Not surprising given the disaster the country has experienced, which involves [[spoiler: ''23 [[spoiler:''23 cities'' destroyed by]] nuclear terrorism, [[spoiler: not [[spoiler:not to mention that one of the upstarts was very likely involved in the attacks]]. Naturally Naturally, there's going to be some chaos. Also Also, each person claiming the Presidency is backed by parts of the military. Again this is narrowed to the two above plus Texas by Season 2, the latter of whom will tip the balance to whoever can recruit them.
** [[spoiler: By [[spoiler:By the end of Season 2, Jake and Hawkins have exposed the Cheyenne government's conspiracy and treason, causing Texas to rejoin the United States under the legitimate government. It is then flat out said by Chavez and Jake that a Second American Civil War is about to begin. And sure enough, the six-issue comic sequel series starts with the war's beginning]].



* ''Series/TheLastShip'': In Season 3, it's shown that in an attempt to bring stability to [[AfterTheEnd post-plague]] America whilst the federal government is rebuilt almost from scratch, President Michener has had the 48 contiguous states divided into five semi-autonomous territories (Northeast, South, Midwest, Southwest, Northwest) controlled by local leaders who report to the new capital district surrounding St. Louis. This is somewhat of a downplayed example, as it's meant to be a temporary measure until a new Congress can be elected... Or at least, that's the plan, until [[spoiler: the regional leaders stage [[TheCoup a coup]], killing Michener and deposing Vice-President Oliver, in order to dissolve the Union and formally turn their territories into their own fiefdoms, with the treacherous White House Chief of Staff trying to get St. Louis as her own city-state as her price for planning the coup]]. Things get a little more complicated from there, as [[spoiler: the Northwest leader [[HeelRealization gets cold feet]] and is [[RedemptionEqualsDeath killed for it]], leading to the Southwest leader absorbing his territory, only for [[TwentyFifthAmendment President]] Oliver and the ''Nathan James'' crew to lead a counter-coup and arrest him, turning the whole West Coast into TheRemnant of the actual US.]] These complications are resolved by the end of the season, as [[spoiler: the other conspirators are captured or killed, allowing Oliver to regain total control of the country]].

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* ''Series/TheLastShip'': In Season 3, it's shown that in an attempt to bring stability to [[AfterTheEnd post-plague]] America whilst the federal government is rebuilt almost from scratch, President Michener has had the 48 contiguous states divided into five semi-autonomous territories (Northeast, South, Midwest, Southwest, Northwest) controlled by local leaders who report to the new capital district surrounding St. Louis. This is somewhat of a downplayed example, as it's meant to be a temporary measure until a new Congress can be elected... Or at least, that's the plan, until [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the regional leaders stage [[TheCoup a coup]], killing Michener and deposing Vice-President Oliver, in order to dissolve the Union and formally turn their territories into their own fiefdoms, with the treacherous White House Chief of Staff trying to get St. Louis as her own city-state as her price for planning the coup]]. Things get a little more complicated from there, as [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Northwest leader [[HeelRealization gets cold feet]] and is [[RedemptionEqualsDeath killed for it]], leading to the Southwest leader absorbing his territory, only for [[TwentyFifthAmendment President]] Oliver and the ''Nathan James'' crew to lead a counter-coup and arrest him, turning the whole West Coast into TheRemnant of the actual US.]] These complications are resolved by the end of the season, as [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the other conspirators are captured or killed, allowing Oliver to regain total control of the country]].



* ''Series/TheHandmaidsTale'': It seems Gilead only covers a portion of the former U.S., with a civil war being fought in other parts (such as Florida, according to Ofglen's comments about the oranges meaning "the fighting is going well" there). Offred mentions that Anchorage is the capital of "what's left of the United States," though it's hard to tell if she means Gilead or what remains of the original government. From the Commander's comment about [[spoiler: going to D.C. for some meetings]], it's probably the latter. It's hard to tell, given that the women in the series have no access to reliable news or other outside information. [[spoiler: Other than Ofglen, because she's in the resistance.]]

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* ''Series/TheHandmaidsTale'': It seems Gilead only covers a portion of the former U.S., with a civil war being fought in other parts (such as Florida, according to Ofglen's comments about the oranges meaning "the fighting is going well" there). Offred mentions that Anchorage is the capital of "what's left of the United States," though it's hard to tell if she means Gilead or what remains of the original government. From the Commander's comment about [[spoiler: going [[spoiler:going to D.C. for some meetings]], it's probably the latter. It's hard to tell, given that the women in the series have no access to reliable news or other outside information. [[spoiler: Other [[spoiler:Other than Ofglen, because she's in the resistance.]]



** In Hearts of Iron's AlternateHistory game mod [[VideoGame/KaiserreichLegacyOfTheWeltkrieg Kaiserreich]], set in an alternate history where the Central Powers won the First World War, the United States will probably split up via civil war into the neo-Confederate American Union State, the [[BombThrowingAnarchists anarcho-syndicalist Combined Syndicates of America]] (centred around the Great Lakes manufacturing region), the [[OppressiveStatesOfAmerica military junta-controlled federal government]] under [[UsefulNotes/DouglasMacArthur Douglas [=MacArthur=]]] (occupying the Midwest and mid-Atlantic) and the democratic Pacific States of America (California, Oregon and Washington). Hawaii also splits off as its own nation, and may later re-join the PSA, or whoever wins the war ([[CurbStompBattle usually]] the CSA due to their [[WeHaveReserves massive manpower and industrial advantage]]).

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** In Hearts of Iron's AlternateHistory game mod [[VideoGame/KaiserreichLegacyOfTheWeltkrieg Kaiserreich]], VideoGame/{{Kaiserreich|LegacyOfTheWeltkrieg}}, set in an alternate history where the Central Powers won the First World War, the United States will probably split up via civil war into the neo-Confederate American Union State, the [[BombThrowingAnarchists anarcho-syndicalist Combined Syndicates of America]] (centred around the Great Lakes manufacturing region), the [[OppressiveStatesOfAmerica military junta-controlled federal government]] under [[UsefulNotes/DouglasMacArthur Douglas [=MacArthur=]]] (occupying the Midwest and mid-Atlantic) and the democratic Pacific States of America (California, Oregon and Washington). Hawaii also splits off as its own nation, and may later re-join the PSA, or whoever wins the war ([[CurbStompBattle usually]] the CSA due to their [[WeHaveReserves massive manpower and industrial advantage]]).



* ''VideoGame/TheReckoning'' is set in USA in 2019 after a ZombieApocalypse, and consists in a war between US Army remnants, Confederacy nostalgists, Neo-Nazis, Rednecks, {{Church Militant}}s, and various bands of raiders. This being ''VideoGame/MountAndBlade: Warband'', the player can either join one of them or create his own independant faction.

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* ''VideoGame/TheReckoning'' is set in USA in 2019 after a ZombieApocalypse, and consists in a war between US Army remnants, Confederacy nostalgists, Neo-Nazis, Rednecks, {{Church Militant}}s, and various bands of raiders. This being ''VideoGame/MountAndBlade: Warband'', the player can either join one of them or create his own independant independent faction.



* In ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'', the "Tower Of Babel" storyline starts with an [[http://www.poisonedminds.com/d/20060202.html animated map]] of the states and their progressive division. California, Oregon and Washington are under the [[MegaCorp Maytec Consortium's]] control. New Texas has all of the southeast except Florida, which is independent. And the northeast states from New England to Wisconsin joined the Collective of Anarchist States (which also controls England and parts of Europe and the Middle East).

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* In ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'', the "Tower Of Babel" storyline starts with an [[http://www.poisonedminds.com/d/20060202.html animated map]] of the states and their progressive division. California, Oregon Oregon, and Washington are under the [[MegaCorp Maytec Consortium's]] control. New Texas has all of the southeast except Florida, which is independent. And the northeast states from New England to Wisconsin joined the Collective of Anarchist States (which also controls England and parts of Europe and the Middle East).



* Rather inevitable in the SequelSeries to Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo. Though as of 1985 [[spoiler: California has seceded (or is trying to secede) from the Union. [[OppressiveStatesOfAmerica It's not hard to guess why]]. When Rumsfeld tries to force Pete [=McCloskey=] out of his office, and then impeaches the Supreme Court for ruling against him, California officially declares itself to be a Republic. Idaho, Hawaii, and Florida also follow suit]].
** The country becomes even more divided after [[spoiler: the Christian Values Party takes control and re-brands the country the Christian States of America]]. By 1990, [[spoiler: Texas and Alaska declare independence, Oregon merges with California to form the Pacific Free Republic, Washington votes to join Canada, the Libertarian-dominated Mountain and Midwest states become "Bozeman enclaves" home to resistance movements, and the secessionist northeastern states continue to call themselves the [[VestigialEmpire United States of America]], lead by Richard Nixon]].

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* Rather inevitable in the SequelSeries to Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo. Though as of 1985 [[spoiler: California [[spoiler:California has seceded (or is trying to secede) from the Union. [[OppressiveStatesOfAmerica It's not hard to guess why]]. When Rumsfeld tries to force Pete [=McCloskey=] out of his office, and then impeaches the Supreme Court for ruling against him, California officially declares itself to be a Republic. Idaho, Hawaii, and Florida also follow suit]].
** The country becomes even more divided after [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Christian Values Party takes control and re-brands the country the Christian States of America]]. By 1990, [[spoiler: Texas [[spoiler:Texas and Alaska declare independence, Oregon merges with California to form the Pacific Free Republic, Washington votes to join Canada, the Libertarian-dominated Mountain and Midwest states become "Bozeman enclaves" home to resistance movements, and the secessionist northeastern states continue to call themselves the [[VestigialEmpire United States of America]], lead by Richard Nixon]].



* ''Website/AtlasOfMedievalAmerica'' imagines a world where human civilisation is blasted back to TheMiddleAges overnight, and what the USA (which had no medieval period to revert to) would become by the 26th Century. The site remains unfinished to this day, but some of the resulting countries are named. The United States of America is an oligarchic VestigialEmpire centered in Baltimore that controls isolated enclaves and the major shipping lanes along the East Coast extending into Canada, the Great Plains are inhabited by a loose confederation of nomadic tribes, the Confederate States (including an independent Georgia and the "Red River Territory") have reverted to plantation slavery but not along racial lines as [[InTheFutureHumansWillBeOneRace everyone in the South is biracial]] by that point, California splits into the northern "Republic" and the Scientologist-controlled southern "Free Zone", the "Territory of Iowa" is a military dictatorship controlling all land between the Missouri and Wabash rivers, the "State of Deseret" is a Mormon theocracy controlling Wyoming and parts of Utah and Ohio, Washington DC became a city-state under the control of the American Non-Denominational Church similar to the Holy See, and it also mentions several warlords in the East and hydraulic empires clustered around rivers in the Western desert.

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* ''Website/AtlasOfMedievalAmerica'' imagines a world where human civilisation civilization is blasted back to TheMiddleAges overnight, and what the USA (which had no medieval period to revert to) would become by the 26th Century. The site remains unfinished to this day, but some of the resulting countries are named. The United States of America is an oligarchic VestigialEmpire centered in Baltimore that controls isolated enclaves and the major shipping lanes along the East Coast extending into Canada, the Great Plains are inhabited by a loose confederation of nomadic tribes, the Confederate States (including an independent Georgia and the "Red River Territory") have reverted to plantation slavery but not along racial lines as [[InTheFutureHumansWillBeOneRace everyone in the South is biracial]] by that point, California splits into the northern "Republic" and the Scientologist-controlled southern "Free Zone", the "Territory of Iowa" is a military dictatorship controlling all land between the Missouri and Wabash rivers, the "State of Deseret" is a Mormon theocracy controlling Wyoming and parts of Utah and Ohio, Washington DC became a city-state under the control of the American Non-Denominational Church similar to the Holy See, and it also mentions several warlords in the East and hydraulic empires clustered around rivers in the Western desert.



** A military government lead by Army Chief of Staff Douglas [=MacArthur=], nicknamed the Khakis, which controls Washington D.C., the Rockies, and the overseas possessions. [[spoiler:After [=MacArthur=] dies during a hurricane, the Whites seize D.C., the Japanese occupy the Pacific territories, a Filipino corps stationed in Alaska begins a revolt against the Khakis there, and several Generals and Admirals become independent warlords, with Admiral Ernest King leading a rump loyalist faction out of the Alaskan Panhandle. Most of the warlords eventually align themselves with the Red Oak Pact as the war draws to a close.]]
** The American Soviet Republic, lead by Communist Party General-Secretary Earl Browder, which controls a stretch of land from their capital at Chicago to New York City. [[spoiler:The east coast Soviets, feeling that Browder is too authoritarian, eventually split and form the American Workers Collective, forming an anti-fascist Popular Front with the Blues. The ASR proper joins the Popular Front after a coup, but turns against it once the Whites are all but defeated. Their defeat to the Red Oak Pact/Popular Front marks the end of the Second Civil War.]]

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** A military government lead led by Army Chief of Staff Douglas [=MacArthur=], nicknamed the Khakis, which controls Washington D.C., the Rockies, and the overseas possessions. [[spoiler:After [=MacArthur=] dies during a hurricane, the Whites seize D.C., the Japanese occupy the Pacific territories, a Filipino corps stationed in Alaska begins a revolt against the Khakis there, and several Generals and Admirals become independent warlords, with Admiral Ernest King leading a rump loyalist faction out of the Alaskan Panhandle. Most of the warlords eventually align themselves with the Red Oak Pact as the war draws to a close.]]
** The American Soviet Republic, lead led by Communist Party General-Secretary Earl Browder, which controls a stretch of land from their capital at Chicago to New York City. [[spoiler:The east coast Soviets, feeling that Browder is too authoritarian, eventually split and form the American Workers Collective, forming an anti-fascist Popular Front with the Blues. The ASR proper joins the Popular Front after a coup, but turns against it once the Whites are all but defeated. Their defeat to the Red Oak Pact/Popular Front marks the end of the Second Civil War.]]



** The Continental Congress, also called the Greens, lead by Milo Reno. Composed of Midwestern farmers who don't like any of the other factions, they control the Great Plains from Montana to Oklahoma. [[spoiler:They align themselves with the Blues in the Red Oak Pact, and count themselves among the winners.]]

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** The Continental Congress, also called the Greens, lead led by Milo Reno. Composed of Midwestern farmers who don't like any of the other factions, they control the Great Plains from Montana to Oklahoma. [[spoiler:They align themselves with the Blues in the Red Oak Pact, and count themselves among the winners.]]



* Parodied in comically small-scale in ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "E. Peterbus Unum", in which Peter secedes from the United States (ItMakesSenseInContext), creating the nation of Petoria--consisting of his house and yard. Peter annexes Joe's backyard pool and rechristens it "Joe-hio", provoking American sanctions. A much larger-scaled version happens in an AlternateTimeline from "Back to the Pilot", where Brian's efforts to the prevent 9/11 attacks causes the formation of a second Confederacy. All in the name of [[TakeThat bashing]] [[UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush Bush]] once again.

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* Parodied in comically small-scale in ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "E. Peterbus Unum", in which Peter secedes from the United States (ItMakesSenseInContext), creating the nation of Petoria--consisting of his house and yard. Peter annexes Joe's backyard pool and rechristens it "Joe-hio", provoking American sanctions. A much larger-scaled version happens in an AlternateTimeline from "Back to the Pilot", where Brian's efforts to the prevent 9/11 attacks causes cause the formation of a second Confederacy. All in the name of [[TakeThat bashing]] [[UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush Bush]] once again.



*** If you go to Culver, IN you will find a whole bunch of locacls who hate people from Chicago, Indianapolis, South Bend, and pretty much any other major city or country (the HS owns an airport). When I was little it was still remote enough that I could jog around the lake without being bothered. That is not the case today and the twitchy visitors aren't local and very quick to point a firearm at you.


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*** If you go to Culver, IN you will find a whole bunch of locacls locals who hate people from Chicago, Indianapolis, South Bend, and pretty much any other major city or country (the HS owns an airport). When I was little it was still remote enough that I could jog around the lake without being bothered. That is not the case today and the twitchy visitors aren't local and very quick to point a firearm at you.




* In the 2002 edition of the Encyclopedia of Stateless Nations, the author defines a stateless nation as a group that self identifies as a distinctive group, displaying outward trappings of a national identity (especially, but not always, a flag) and the formation of political pressure groups for great autonomy. It has within the United States: New Englanders, Texans, Southerners, Californians, Mormons, at least five American Indian nations, Alaskans and Cajuns.

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* In the 2002 edition of the Encyclopedia of Stateless Nations, the author defines a stateless nation as a group that self identifies as a distinctive group, displaying outward trappings of a national identity (especially, but not always, a flag) and the formation of political pressure groups for great autonomy. It has within the United States: New Englanders, Texans, Southerners, Californians, Mormons, at least five American Indian nations, Alaskans Alaskans, and Cajuns.



* Primarily as a thought experiment, some commentators have proposed balkanising the US to address issues with the Senate and the Electoral College. In the Senate, small states like Montana or Wyoming have equal representation as Texas and California, giving those states a disproportionate amount of power; and, while the Electoral College does reflect the will of the people the majority of the time, on four occasions (most recently in the 2016 Presidential Election, where Donald Trump won the electoral college despite losing the popular vote) they have differed, meaning the candidate with the most votes does not necessarily always win the Presidency.

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* Primarily as a thought experiment, some commentators have proposed balkanising balkanizing the US to address issues with the Senate and the Electoral College. In the Senate, small states like Montana or Wyoming have equal representation as Texas and California, giving those states a disproportionate amount of power; and, while the Electoral College does reflect the will of the people the majority of the time, on four occasions (most recently in the 2016 Presidential Election, where Donald Trump won the electoral college despite losing the popular vote) they have differed, meaning the candidate with the most votes does not necessarily always win the Presidency.



* First there was the Texas Revolution--originally not to secede from Mexico, but to balkanize the Mexican state of Coahuila y Texas to give the recently immigrated Anglo Texans more control over local politics. Eventually the rhetoric changed to favor complete separation, when it became clear the Mexican Government was not going to compromise. The increasingly anti-slavery stance of the Mexican government also contributed to this shift.

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* First there was the Texas Revolution--originally not to secede from Mexico, but to balkanize the Mexican state of Coahuila y Texas to give the recently immigrated Anglo Texans more control over local politics. Eventually Eventually, the rhetoric changed to favor complete separation, when it became clear the Mexican Government was not going to compromise. The increasingly anti-slavery stance of the Mexican government also contributed to this shift.



However, in the Joint Resolution, Congress did allow a provision for the state to divide itself. During the Republican era of Texas and early in its statehood there was a significant political faction known as the 'divisionists' who argued that the former republic was too large to be governed effectively by a single body. The point was rendered moot with emergence of a Texan national culture.

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However, in the Joint Resolution, Congress did allow a provision for the state to divide itself. During the Republican era of Texas and early in its statehood there was a significant political faction known as the 'divisionists' who argued that the former republic was too large to be governed effectively by a single body. The point was rendered moot with the emergence of a Texan national culture.



* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire_Constitution#Article_10._Right_of_Revolution New Hampshire's state constitution]] would seem to suggest not the right to independence, but in fact the ''duty'' to revolt should the government become overly oppressive.

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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire_Constitution#Article_10._Right_of_Revolution New Hampshire's state constitution]] would seem to suggest not the right to independence, but in fact fact, the ''duty'' to revolt should the government become overly oppressive.



* The Arlington area of Virginia is the land originally ceded from Virginia to Washington D.C. when the city was being formed, then succeed/was given back to Virginia. The rest of the city is looking to do something similar leaving D.C. to be just the region near the National Mall and some surrounding neighborhoods. Whether the city proper becomes [[ExpandedStatesOfAmerica a 51st State]] or returns to Maryland is a major point of debate hampering further movement. [[note]]Currently, D.C. has one House of Representatives observer who can raise issues, but cannot vote. Almost all D.C. residents are in favor of either option, because it will mean representation. The debate is more up to Congress, which must approve, and falls on party lines. D.C. is reliably Democrat, so the Democrats would like to see it as full Statehood giving it two more safe seat Senators. Republicans would prefer it ceded back to Maryland, where it would net only one reliable opposition House Seat.[[/note]]

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* The Arlington area of Virginia is the land originally ceded from Virginia to Washington D.C. when the city was being formed, then succeed/was given back to Virginia. The rest of the city is looking to do something similar leaving D.C. to be just the region near the National Mall and some surrounding neighborhoods. Whether the city proper becomes [[ExpandedStatesOfAmerica a 51st State]] or returns to Maryland is a major point of debate hampering further movement. [[note]]Currently, D.C. has one House of Representatives observer who can raise issues, but cannot vote. Almost all D.C. residents are in favor of either option, because it will mean representation. The debate is more up to Congress, which must approve, and falls on party lines. D.C. is reliably Democrat, Democratic, so the Democrats would like to see it as full Statehood giving it two more safe seat Senators. Republicans would prefer it ceded back to Maryland, where it would net only one reliable opposition House Seat.[[/note]]
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28th Sep '17 1:16:42 AM PaulA
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* In L. E. Modesitt's ''Ghosts'' series, history is different due to the presence of actual, scientifically-verifiable ghosts that appear after a violent death in which the person knows he or she is dying. North America is split into Columbia (a United States analogue where the Dutch are one of the prominent people), the Mormon Theocracy of Deseret, New France, and Quebec, among other things.

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* In L. E. Modesitt's Creator/LEModesittJr's ''Ghosts'' series, history is different due to the presence of actual, scientifically-verifiable ghosts that appear after a violent death in which the person knows he or she is dying. North America is split into Columbia (a United States analogue where the Dutch are one of the prominent people), the Mormon Theocracy of Deseret, New France, and Quebec, among other things.
19th Sep '17 3:18:47 PM thatmadork
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** In Hearts of Iron's game mod [[VideoGame/KaiserreichLegacyOfTheWeltkrieg Kaiserreich]], set in an alternate history where the Central Powers won the First World War, the United States will probably split up via civil war into the neo-Confederate American Union State, the [[BombThrowingAnarchists anarcho-syndicalist Combined Syndicates of America]] (centred around the Great Lakes manufacturing region), the [[Main/OppressiveStatesOfAmerica military junta-controlled federal government]] under [[UsefulNotes/DouglasMacArthur Douglas [=MacArthur=]]] (occupying the Midwest and mid-Atlantic) and the democratic Pacific States of America (California, Oregon and Washington). Hawaii also splits off as its own nation, and may later re-join the PSA, or whoever wins the war.

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** In Hearts of Iron's AlternateHistory game mod [[VideoGame/KaiserreichLegacyOfTheWeltkrieg Kaiserreich]], set in an alternate history where the Central Powers won the First World War, the United States will probably split up via civil war into the neo-Confederate American Union State, the [[BombThrowingAnarchists anarcho-syndicalist Combined Syndicates of America]] (centred around the Great Lakes manufacturing region), the [[Main/OppressiveStatesOfAmerica [[OppressiveStatesOfAmerica military junta-controlled federal government]] under [[UsefulNotes/DouglasMacArthur Douglas [=MacArthur=]]] (occupying the Midwest and mid-Atlantic) and the democratic Pacific States of America (California, Oregon and Washington). Hawaii also splits off as its own nation, and may later re-join the PSA, or whoever wins the war.war ([[CurbStompBattle usually]] the CSA due to their [[WeHaveReserves massive manpower and industrial advantage]]).
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* Martin Cruz Smith (Cherokee-Pueblo)'s ''The Indians Won'' speculates that if Crazy Horse had lived, if he and other Native leaders had had the resources, they'd have joined with Paiute holy man Wovoka[[note]]whose Ghost Dance movement really was intended to do this[[/note]] to unite the High Plains nations against the European invaders. Further south, Native peoples join with the Latter-Day Saints in a separate nation-state. Much of the needed weapons and food are actually supplied by an evil European cabal who plan to overthrow the new governments once they're established, but the Indians catch on and thereby hangs the tale.
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* Alaska is fused with the Canadian territories to form another Inuit province, or [[RussiaCalledTheyWantAlaskaBack the Russians take it back.]] In some cases, if Russia is in its SovietRussia mode, it will be named as Alaskan SSR.

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* Alaska is fused with the Canadian territories to form another Inuit province, or [[RussiaCalledTheyWantAlaskaBack the Russians take it back.]] In some cases, if Russia is in its SovietRussia UsefulNotes/{{Soviet Russia|UkraineAndSoOn}} mode, it will be named as Alaskan SSR.
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* In 1998, Russian professor [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Panarin Igor Panarin]] gave a 55% chance that the United States would break up by 2010. It gained a lot of media attention around the time of the 2008 financial crisis, though unless every news outlet in the world has been lying to us all for the past several years, his prediction has not come to pass. One of Panarin's conclusions was that a US breakup would be bad for Russia insofar as much of its trade is dependent on the US. He advocated trying to steer such a break-up more along peaceful lines like Czechoslovakia rather than what happened in Yugoslavia in the early 90's.

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* In 1998, Russian professor [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Panarin Igor Panarin]] gave a 55% chance that the United States would break up by 2010. It gained a lot of media attention around the time of the 2008 financial crisis, though unless every news outlet in the world has been lying to us all for the past several years, his prediction has not come to pass. One of Panarin's conclusions was that a US breakup would be bad for Russia insofar as much of its trade is dependent on the US. He advocated trying to steer such a break-up more along [[VelvetRevolution peaceful lines lines]] like Czechoslovakia rather than [[UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars what happened in Yugoslavia Yugoslavia]] in the early 90's.
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