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19th Sep '16 7:40:55 PM PaulA
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* Defied rather fatally in ''[[Literature/IncarnationsOfimmortality Bearing an Hourglass]]'' where Gawain the the dragon slayer, prior to the events of the novel, dies at the jaws of an allosaur he thought was a dragon. In-universe, the two are very different species with different behavior patterns, and the allosaur's persistence caused Gawain to be crushed to death inside his own armor.

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* Defied rather fatally in ''[[Literature/IncarnationsOfimmortality Bearing an Hourglass]]'' ''Literature/BearingAnHourglass'' where Gawain the the dragon slayer, prior to the events of the novel, dies at the jaws of an allosaur he thought was a dragon. In-universe, the two are very different species with different behavior patterns, and the allosaur's persistence caused Gawain to be crushed to death inside his own armor.
19th Sep '16 12:18:17 AM Theriocephalus
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-->"Going by evolution, the gargoyles descended from a species that is often classified along with dinosaurs, without necessarily being dinosaurs." - from [[http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/faq.php?s=faq20#1 here]]
** ... birds?
*** More like pterosaurs/pterodactyls actually, if they are indeed intended being related to dinosaurs without belong within the group
*** Given they have hair and mammary glands, Therapsids are more likely candidate, WordOfGod notwithstanding. Otherwise, we hit [[NonMammalMammaries another trope]].

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-->"Going by evolution, the gargoyles descended from a species that is often classified along with dinosaurs, without necessarily being dinosaurs." - -- from [[http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/faq.php?s=faq20#1 here]]
** ...**... birds?
*** More like pterosaurs/pterodactyls likely pterosaurs, actually, if they are indeed intended being to be related to dinosaurs without belong being within the group
group.
*** Given they have hair and mammary glands, Therapsids are more likely candidate, candidates, WordOfGod notwithstanding. Otherwise, we hit [[NonMammalMammaries another trope]].



** Not just dinosaur fossils, any fossil seems to qualify for "dragon bone" status (Many of them are actually mammal fossils. iirc, the first Gigantopithecus specimens were discovered this way)

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** Not just dinosaur fossils, any fossil seems to qualify for "dragon bone" status (Many of them are actually mammal fossils. iirc, the first Gigantopithecus ''Gigantopithecus'' specimens were discovered this way)



** Recent billboards for the Creation Museum have been using dinosaurs to attract children to the venue. Among the dinosaur signs is a fire breathing dragon.

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** Recent billboards for the Creation Museum have been using dinosaurs to attract children to the venue. Among the dinosaur signs is a fire breathing fire-breathing dragon.



* It's generally agreed at this point that the legendary cyclops - a giant with one eye in the middle of its forehead and very pronounced fangs that get forgotten in most modern depictions - was inspired by mammoth skulls. The tusks are the fangs and the central hole for the trunk could easily be mistaken for an eye socket.

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* It's generally agreed at this point that the legendary cyclops - -- a giant with one eye in the middle of its forehead and very pronounced fangs that get forgotten in most modern depictions - -- was inspired by mammoth skulls. The tusks are the fangs and the central hole for the trunk could easily be mistaken for an eye socket.



* Close variant: In traditional Filipino folklore, ''crocodiles'' are considered to be dragons (obviously of the sea-serpent variety).

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* Close variant: In in traditional Filipino folklore, ''crocodiles'' are considered to be dragons (obviously of the sea-serpent variety).
19th Sep '16 12:09:41 AM Theriocephalus
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** Translations of dinosaur names into Chinese almost always include "long", in place of the "saurus" - for example, Tyrannosaurus rex is known as "Ba wang long" or "Bao long", meaning "tyrant king dragon" or "violent dragon".
** There's also an oviraptorosaur called ''Hagryphus'' ("Ha's gryphon") and Welsh prosauropod called... ''Pantydraco''... (It's... not [[DracoInLeatherPants what it sounds like]]. It's derived from the Welsh valley "Pant-y-ffynon".

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** Translations of dinosaur names into Chinese almost always include "long", in place of the "saurus" - -- for example, Tyrannosaurus rex ''Tyrannosaurus rex'' is known as "Ba wang long" or "Bao long", meaning "tyrant king dragon" or "violent dragon".
** There's also an oviraptorosaur called ''Hagryphus'' ("Ha's gryphon") and Welsh prosauropod called... ''Pantydraco''... (It's... not [[DracoInLeatherPants what it sounds like]]. It's derived from the Welsh valley "Pant-y-ffynon".)
15th Sep '16 11:20:37 PM JMQwilleran
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* This is played with on ''WesternAnimation/DocMcStuffins'' when Stuffy (toy dragon) and Bronty (toy brontosaurus) meet, Doc says that they are like family and that they could be cousins. In a later installment, Bronty refers to Stuffy as "Cousin Stuffy."
31st Aug '16 5:19:30 PM nombretomado
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* Misuzu Kamio of ''EternalFighterZero'' can summon various fire-breathing (stuffed) dinosaurs with her "Gao Gao Fire" super. Sure, they're just stuffed animals, but still....

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* Misuzu Kamio of ''EternalFighterZero'' ''VideoGame/EternalFighterZero'' can summon various fire-breathing (stuffed) dinosaurs with her "Gao Gao Fire" super. Sure, they're just stuffed animals, but still....
27th Aug '16 7:08:52 PM Sharysa
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* Close variant: In traditional Filipino folklore, ''crocodiles'' are considered to be dragons (obviously of the sea-serpent variety).
25th Aug '16 4:44:12 PM nombretomado
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* Played in a unique fashion by ''Film/DragonsAFantasyMadeReal'', a DiscoveryChannel {{Mockumentary}} that showed "genuine" dragons as a species of prehistoric creature that survived into modern times, and which possessed a variety of fire-breathing that had a plausible biological explanation. They didn't say anything about them actually being dinosaurs, but the their overall physiological structure was consistent with that of a dinosaur.

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* Played in a unique fashion by ''Film/DragonsAFantasyMadeReal'', a DiscoveryChannel Creator/DiscoveryChannel {{Mockumentary}} that showed "genuine" dragons as a species of prehistoric creature that survived into modern times, and which possessed a variety of fire-breathing that had a plausible biological explanation. They didn't say anything about them actually being dinosaurs, but the their overall physiological structure was consistent with that of a dinosaur.
20th Jul '16 6:50:19 PM Perseus
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* ''[[VideoGame/SeventhDragon 7th Dragon]]'' plays Dragons Are Dinosaurs straight, although there are some dragons based on other animals as well.

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* ''[[VideoGame/SeventhDragon 7th Dragon]]'' plays Dragons Are Dinosaurs straight, although ''VideoGame/SeventhDragon'' has various dragons that resemble dinosaurs, though to be fair there are some also dragons based on other animals as well.that look like ''other'' animals.
15th Jul '16 8:25:37 AM DaibhidC
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* ''[[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons Dungeons & Dragons]]'' averts this. Dinosaurs are nothing more than animals, though they're cool enough that they aren't listed in one appendix in the ''Monster Manual'', where animals normally are, but instead under their own heading. Which makes '''D''' officially (and suitably) the most feared section of all creature books for ''D'', what with [[OurDragonsAreDifferent/TabletopGames dragons]], [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons, devils]], dinosaurs, and [[DarkerAndEdgier dire animals]].

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* ''[[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons Dungeons & Dragons]]'' averts this. Dinosaurs are nothing more than animals, though they're cool enough that they aren't listed in one appendix in the ''Monster Manual'', where animals normally are, but instead under their own heading. Which makes '''D''' officially (and suitably) the most feared section of all creature books for ''D'', what with [[OurDragonsAreDifferent/TabletopGames dragons]], [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons, devils]], dinosaurs, and [[DarkerAndEdgier dire animals]].{{Dire Beast}}s.
1st Jul '16 10:55:52 AM MajinAkuma
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* In ''Anime/YuGiOh'', Dragons are dinosaurs... sort of. Rex Raptor has a dinosaur ThemeDeck. However, his two strongest monsters, Serpent Night Dragon and Red Eyes Black Dragon, are [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin dragons]]. (And in his second duel with Joey later, he adds Tyrant Dragon to his deck.) Possibly justified as dragons are not affected by the arbitrary dinosaur weakness, and Rex may even be exploiting the confusion here. At the time the character was created, there were far too few cards actually based on dinosaurs for a real dinosaur deck, so obviously the next best thing is dragons.

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* In ''Anime/YuGiOh'', ''Manga/YuGiOh'', Dragons are dinosaurs... sort of. Rex Raptor Dinosaur Ryuzaki has a dinosaur Dinosaur ThemeDeck. However, his two strongest monsters, Serpent Night Dragon and Red Eyes Red-Eyes Black Dragon, are [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin dragons]]. (And in his second duel with Joey Jounouchi later, he adds Tyrant Dragon to his deck.) Possibly justified as dragons are not affected by the arbitrary dinosaur weakness, and Rex Ryusaki may even be exploiting the confusion here. At the time the character was created, there were far too few cards actually based on dinosaurs for a real dinosaur Dinosaur deck, so obviously the next best thing is dragons.



** There is one card, Two-Mouth Darkruler, who was originally classified as a Dragon, but is now a Dinosaur. Hilariously, it has a counterpart known as Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon (which, aside from a {{palette swap}}, looks exactly the same) which is made from fusing two Thunder Dragons.
*** To further complicate it, in the card game, Thunder Dragon and Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon are ''Thunder'-type monsters, and as such technically neither Dinosaurs nor Dragons. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon doesn't actually even have two heads... or look even remotely like the Thunder Dragons that fuse to make it.]]
** The [[TabletopGame/YuGiOh card game]], however, distinguishes between dragons and dinosaurs by making them two entirely different types (Dragon-type and Dinosaur-type). For quite a while since the start of the game, there were very few Dinosaur-type monsters, and it was years before a particularly powerful one was released.

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** There is one card, Two-Mouth Darkruler, who was originally classified as a Dragon, Dragon-Type, but is now a Dinosaur.Dinosaur-Type. Hilariously, it has a counterpart known as Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon (which, aside from a {{palette swap}}, looks exactly the same) which is made from fusing two Thunder Dragons.
*** To further complicate it, in the card game, Thunder Dragon and Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon are ''Thunder'-type ''Thunder''-Type monsters, and as such technically neither Dinosaurs nor Dragons. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and Twin-Headed Thunder Dragon doesn't actually even have two heads... or look even remotely like the Thunder Dragons that fuse to make it.]]
** The [[TabletopGame/YuGiOh card game]], however, distinguishes between dragons and dinosaurs by making them two entirely different types (Dragon-type (Dragon-Type and Dinosaur-type). Dinosaur-Type). For quite a while since the start of the game, there were very few Dinosaur-type Dinosaur-Type monsters, and it was years before a particularly powerful one was released.



*** The [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evolzar Evolzars]] [[UpToEleven take this up to eleven]] because they need dinosaur-types to summon them and they're dragons!
** For some reason, almost all of the Dinosaur-type monsters in the various ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' video games are shown breathing fire for their attacks.
** Rex specifically notes that the Serpent Night Dragon and the Red Eyes Black Dragon are his special rare cards (he won the Serpent Night Dragon at a tournament), which makes them an acceptable exception to his dinosaur-themed deck. He's just showing off by having them - and ends up losing both anyway.
** Dogoran, the Mad Flame Kaiju. A Dinosaur-type monster has never looked so much like a dragon.

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*** The [[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evolzar Evolzars]] [[UpToEleven take this up to eleven]] because they need dinosaur-types Dinosaur-Types to summon them and they're dragons!
** For some reason, almost all of the Dinosaur-type Dinosaur-Type monsters in the various ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' video games are shown breathing fire for their attacks.
** Rex Ryuzaki specifically notes that the Serpent Night Dragon and the Red Eyes Red-Eyes Black Dragon are his special rare cards (he won the Serpent Night Dragon at a tournament), which makes them an acceptable exception to his dinosaur-themed deck. He's just showing off by having them - and ends up losing both anyway.
** Dogoran, the Mad Flame Kaiju. A Dinosaur-type Dinosaur-Type monster has never looked so much like a dragon.dragon.
** ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'': While Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon and all of its forms are Dragon-Types, most of them resemble dinosaurs, due to their lack of wings and their primary way of locomotion, which is running.
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