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9th Jul '17 3:49:53 PM Kirayoshi
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* ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', when the Phantom makes his appearance at the end of "Masquerade":
-->''"Why so silent, good m'sieurs? Did you think that I had left you for good?"''
2nd Jun '17 5:17:05 PM Nintendoman01
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': In the manga, Goku Black [[spoiler:pulls this off against Gowasu after [[RedemptionRejection rejecting his offer of redemption]] and stabbing him; Black outright calls Gowasu an idiot for thinking he could actually persuade him to change his ways, especially since he's already killed ''two'' different incarnations of Gowasu for the sake of his plans.]]
7th Apr '17 7:43:45 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Sansa mocks Myranda for believing that Ramsay actually intended on marrying her.
4th Apr '17 7:10:01 PM Valkyr
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* ''VideoGame/DisgaeaHourOfDarkness'': HeroAntagonist to manipulated villain varient:
--> Lamington: "Did you think that I was oblivious to your actions, Vulcanus? I am well informed of all that has transpired."
30th Mar '17 3:38:02 PM eroock
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Stock phrase used by treacherous allies, mentors, and villains once they double cross the hero and have him at their mercy. This is often followed by declarations of [[StrawNihilist sneering contempt]] for the hero's [[HonorBeforeReason idealistic moral code]] and/or [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech extended mockery of the hero]] for being [[ILied gullible enough]] to trust the villain's promises, [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids naive enough]] to think that the villain sincerely intended to [[EnemyMine cooperate toward a common goal]], [[GoodIsDumb dumb enough]] to get [[ManipulativeBastard manipulated]] into providing the villain with [[UnwittingPawn aid]] or [[MacGuffinDeliveryService equipment]], etc.

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Stock phrase used by treacherous allies, mentors, and villains once they [[TheCakeIsALie double cross the hero hero]] and have him at their mercy. This is often followed by declarations of [[StrawNihilist sneering contempt]] for the hero's [[HonorBeforeReason idealistic moral code]] and/or [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech extended mockery of the hero]] for being [[ILied gullible enough]] to trust the villain's promises, [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids naive enough]] to think that the villain sincerely intended to [[EnemyMine cooperate toward a common goal]], [[GoodIsDumb dumb enough]] to get [[ManipulativeBastard manipulated]] into providing the villain with [[UnwittingPawn aid]] or [[MacGuffinDeliveryService equipment]], etc.
14th Mar '17 10:50:51 PM Karxrida
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* ''The Death of Franchise/{{Superman}}'' (the '60s Imaginary Story, not the '90s arc) has ComicBook/LexLuthor curing cancer and [[CivilianVillain publicly announcing that he has renounced evil]] and will dedicate his life to doing good. Supes is delighted at this, and becomes Luthor's best friend. Then Luthor lures his new best friend into his lab and tortures him to death with Kryptonite, laughing uproariously at Supes's helpless expressions of betrayal, fury, and heartbreak and quoting this trope almost word for word. As for ''why'' [[OutOfCharacterMoment Superman]] believed it, [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks take a look at that decade again]].

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* ''The Death of Franchise/{{Superman}}'' (the '60s Imaginary Story, not the '90s arc) has ComicBook/LexLuthor curing cancer and [[CivilianVillain [[FalselyReformedVillain publicly announcing that he has renounced evil]] and will dedicate his life to doing good. Supes is delighted at this, and becomes Luthor's best friend. Then Luthor lures his new best friend into his lab and tortures him to death with Kryptonite, laughing uproariously at Supes's helpless expressions of betrayal, fury, and heartbreak and quoting this trope almost word for word. As for ''why'' [[OutOfCharacterMoment Superman]] believed it, [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks take a look at that decade again]].
13th Mar '17 5:42:54 AM Doug86
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* ''The Death of {{Superman}}'' (the '60s Imaginary Story, not the '90s arc) has ComicBook/LexLuthor curing cancer and [[CivilianVillain publicly announcing that he has renounced evil]] and will dedicate his life to doing good. Supes is delighted at this, and becomes Luthor's best friend. Then Luthor lures his new best friend into his lab and tortures him to death with Kryptonite, laughing uproariously at Supes's helpless expressions of betrayal, fury, and heartbreak and quoting this trope almost word for word. As for ''why'' [[OutOfCharacterMoment Superman]] believed it, [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks take a look at that decade again]].

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* ''The Death of {{Superman}}'' Franchise/{{Superman}}'' (the '60s Imaginary Story, not the '90s arc) has ComicBook/LexLuthor curing cancer and [[CivilianVillain publicly announcing that he has renounced evil]] and will dedicate his life to doing good. Supes is delighted at this, and becomes Luthor's best friend. Then Luthor lures his new best friend into his lab and tortures him to death with Kryptonite, laughing uproariously at Supes's helpless expressions of betrayal, fury, and heartbreak and quoting this trope almost word for word. As for ''why'' [[OutOfCharacterMoment Superman]] believed it, [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks take a look at that decade again]].



* ''ComicBook/LukeCage'' had an indirect one where Cage did a job for DoctorDoom, only to be told by a doorman that Doom wasn't the type to pay if he could get away with it and had already left the country. Cage proceeds to rampage through Latveria until he gets his money back.

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* ''ComicBook/LukeCage'' had an indirect one where Cage did a job for DoctorDoom, ComicBook/DoctorDoom, only to be told by a doorman that Doom wasn't the type to pay if he could get away with it and had already left the country. Cage proceeds to rampage through Latveria until he gets his money back.



* In ''TheCriesOfHaruhiSuzumiya'', [[spoiler:Takano says this to Haruhi about the Hammer of Oyashiro-sama.]] What's worse, [[spoiler: this is after Haruhi's bought into this completely, and with Haruhi being [[RealityWarper Haruhi]]...]]

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* In ''TheCriesOfHaruhiSuzumiya'', ''Fanfic/TheCriesOfHaruhiSuzumiya'', [[spoiler:Takano says this to Haruhi about the Hammer of Oyashiro-sama.]] What's worse, [[spoiler: this is after Haruhi's bought into this completely, and with Haruhi being [[RealityWarper Haruhi]]...]]



* ''{{Film/Deadpool}}'': Francis pulls this on Wade, who was suckered into joining the super program thinking it produced superheroes. It produces super-slaves, sold to dictators and terrorists to fight free speech, destroy villages, and mow the occasional lawn.

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* ''{{Film/Deadpool}}'': ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'': Francis pulls this on Wade, who was suckered into joining the super program thinking it produced superheroes. It produces super-slaves, sold to dictators and terrorists to fight free speech, destroy villages, and mow the occasional lawn.



* In {{Series/TeenWolf}}, Kate Argent loves doing this.

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* In {{Series/TeenWolf}}, ''Series/{{TeenWolf}}'', Kate Argent loves doing this.



** In ''A Scandal In Belgravia'', [[spoiler: Irene]] uses this. [[spoiler: Turns out she was bluffing]].

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** In ''A Scandal In in Belgravia'', [[spoiler: Irene]] uses this. [[spoiler: Turns out she was bluffing]].



* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40K:'' There's a backwater planet where the inhabitants haven't seen Imperial forces since they last left the planet some ten millenia prior, which doesn't stop them believing the GodEmperor will one day return to lead them out of their incredibly miserable lives. Chaos forces that raid the planet take sadistic pleasure in showing just how utterly insignificant they are, how little anyone in the Imperium cares or is even aware of their existence, and of course [[AndIMustScream what's happened to the]] GodEmperor since then.

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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40K:'' ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'': There's a backwater planet where the inhabitants haven't seen Imperial forces since they last left the planet some ten millenia prior, which doesn't stop them believing the GodEmperor will one day return to lead them out of their incredibly miserable lives. Chaos forces that raid the planet take sadistic pleasure in showing just how utterly insignificant they are, how little anyone in the Imperium cares or is even aware of their existence, and of course [[AndIMustScream what's happened to the]] GodEmperor since then.
5th Feb '17 12:09:38 PM SteveMB
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** Possibly subverted, because we all know the answer to that question: yes, in a heartbeat. This is the same man [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague who would later admit]] to spending millions on a fake presidential campaign "just to ''tick Superman off''." And construct a housing development so that it could be destroyed in a super-battle to make him look bad. When it comes to humbling his arch-foe, Luthor ''will'' go to any lengths necessary.

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** Possibly subverted, because we all know the answer to that question: yes, in a heartbeat. This is the same man [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague who would later admit]] to spending millions on a fake presidential campaign "just to ''tick Superman off''." And construct a housing development so that it could be destroyed in a super-battle to [[WhatTheHellHero make him Superman look bad.bad]]. When it comes to humbling his arch-foe, Luthor ''will'' go to any lengths necessary.
19th Jan '17 2:40:34 PM AutumnLeaves
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40K:'' There's a backwater planet where the inhabitants haven't seen Imperial forces since they last left the planet some ten millenia prior, which doesn't stop them believing the GodEmperor will one day return to lead them out of their incredibly miserable lives. Chaos forces that raid the planet take sadistic pleasure in showing just how utterly insignificant they are, how little anyone in the Imperium cares or is even aware of their existence, and of course [[AndIMustScream what's happened to the]] GodEmperor since then.


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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40K:'' There's a backwater planet where the inhabitants haven't seen Imperial forces since they last left the planet some ten millenia prior, which doesn't stop them believing the GodEmperor will one day return to lead them out of their incredibly miserable lives. Chaos forces that raid the planet take sadistic pleasure in showing just how utterly insignificant they are, how little anyone in the Imperium cares or is even aware of their existence, and of course [[AndIMustScream what's happened to the]] GodEmperor since then.
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19th Jan '17 2:39:38 PM AutumnLeaves
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* Ptolemy in ''Giulio Cesare in Egitto'' by Creator/GeorgeFredericHandel promises the hand of the captive Cornelia to TheDragon Achilla, while really intending to keep her for himself. When Achilla tells him Caesar is killed and it's time to reward him, Ptolemy tells him that he shouldn't have thought he'll receive WorldsMostBeautifulWoman for [[TheHypocrite such a lowly deed]]. Lampshaded by Ptolemy several times before that.
-->'''Ptolemy''' (to himself): He must be mad to believe it!
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