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24th Sep '17 11:18:38 AM nombretomado
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* In Creator/DavidEddings' ''{{Malloreon}}'' [[spoiler:Cyradis, explicitly described as the incarnation of TrueNeutral, has the sole purpose of deciding whether the Child of Light or the Child of Dark won. It's described as being as random as a coin flip, but needless to say, she picks good. It helps that the forces of Dark blatantly tried to cheat.]]

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* In Creator/DavidEddings' ''{{Malloreon}}'' ''Literature/{{Malloreon}}'' [[spoiler:Cyradis, explicitly described as the incarnation of TrueNeutral, has the sole purpose of deciding whether the Child of Light or the Child of Dark won. It's described as being as random as a coin flip, but needless to say, she picks good. It helps that the forces of Dark blatantly tried to cheat.]]
1st Jun '17 8:03:45 PM crazysamaritan
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* This was Guts from ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'', and justifiable too, since he was a freelancing career mercenary who only went where the money was and didn't pick sides. When he's first introduced as a teen mercenary, he's fighting for [[TheEmpire the Tudor Empire]] (and they won the battle because of Guts), but then immediately leaves the job after his contract is fulfilled. But after being spotted by Griffith and his mercenary army, of which Guts helped fight against, [[DefeatMeansFriendship Guts was recruited]] to the Band of the Hawk, who were employed by [[TheKingdom the Kingdom of Midland]] to help fight against Tudor. When Guts went from default to the side of Midland, the kingdom got a HUGE advantage during the war.

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* This was Guts Guts, from ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'', and justifiable too, since he was a freelancing career mercenary who only went where the money was and didn't pick sides. When he's first introduced as a teen mercenary, he's fighting for [[TheEmpire the Tudor Empire]] (and they won the battle because of Guts), but then immediately leaves the job after his contract is fulfilled. But after being spotted by Griffith and his mercenary army, of which Guts helped fight against, [[DefeatMeansFriendship Guts was recruited]] to the Band of the Hawk, who were employed by [[TheKingdom the Kingdom of Midland]] to help fight against Tudor. When Guts went from default to the side of Midland, the kingdom got a HUGE advantage during the war.
1st Apr '17 9:45:25 AM Frem3
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* Averted with Amon Garam in ''Anime/YuGiOhGX''. After being neutrally helpful (but manipulative!) throughout the first arc of season three and then showing his own goals in the second (but still a bit helpful, if distant), you get to [[spoiler:the spot right after Haou has been defeated, where he steps up and sacrifices the woman who loves him and that he loves back in order to control Exodia.]] Then, he starts his plan to become king of the world. [[spoiler:But then it's double subverted (without being subverted in the first place, get over it) when he reveals himself as a WellIntentionedExtremist.]]

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* Averted with Amon Garam ([[DubNameChange Adrian Gecko]]) in ''Anime/YuGiOhGX''. After being neutrally helpful (but manipulative!) throughout the first arc of season three and then showing his own goals in the second (but still a bit helpful, if distant), you get to [[spoiler:the spot right after Haou has been defeated, where he steps up and sacrifices the woman who loves him and that he loves back in order to control Exodia.]] Then, he starts his plan to become king of the world. [[spoiler:But then it's double subverted (without being subverted in the first place, get over it) when he reveals himself as a WellIntentionedExtremist.]]



* ''Manga/InuYasha'': Sesshoumaru's personal goals left him in conflict with Inuyasha's group but uninterested in either the BigBad or the plot-driving DismantledMacGuffin. However, the BigBad kept trying to manipulate his SiblingRivalry to take out the heroes and his MoralityPet to neutralise his own power. This drove Sesshoumaru from being a random element, through the TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou and IWasJustPassingThrough AntiVillain stage, into being an openly helpful AntiHero. Without Sesshoumaru throwing his lot in with the good guys, the BigBad and ArtifactOfDoom could never have been defeated. In short, the BigBad should have read the 'If You're the Bad Guy' advice.

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* ''Manga/InuYasha'': Sesshoumaru's Sesshomaru's personal goals left him in conflict with Inuyasha's group but uninterested in either the BigBad or the plot-driving DismantledMacGuffin. However, the BigBad kept trying to manipulate his SiblingRivalry to take out the heroes and his MoralityPet to neutralise his own power. This drove Sesshoumaru Sesshomaru from being a random element, through the TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou and IWasJustPassingThrough AntiVillain stage, into being an openly helpful AntiHero. Without Sesshoumaru Sesshomaru throwing his lot in with the good guys, the BigBad and ArtifactOfDoom could never have been defeated. In short, the BigBad should have read the 'If You're the Bad Guy' advice.
25th Oct '16 7:04:36 PM nombretomado
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* Subverted, like so many things, in GeorgeRRMartin's ''{{A Song of Ice and Fire}}''. Lord Eddard Stark ''thinks'' he has secured the vital loyalty and aid of "declared neutral" [[spoiler:Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish]]. However, that fellow has gone over to the Bad Guys instead. The results are not pretty.

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* Subverted, like so many things, in GeorgeRRMartin's ''{{A Song of Ice and Fire}}''.Creator/GeorgeRRMartin's ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''. Lord Eddard Stark ''thinks'' he has secured the vital loyalty and aid of "declared neutral" [[spoiler:Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish]]. However, that fellow has gone over to the Bad Guys instead. The results are not pretty.
19th Jun '16 2:15:31 PM nombretomado
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** From the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'', Talon Karrde, Mara Jade, and the rest of the Smugglers' Alliance in ''TheThrawnTrilogy''. Took a MistreatmentInducedBetrayal to convince Karrde and Jade, and they had a hard time convincing the others. When they tried to do so, perhaps having realized his previous mistake with Karrde's organization, Thrawn gave specific orders to leave the other smugglers alone so that they'd continue to have no dog in the fight. A less intelligent informant of Thrawn's managed to ruin this in a play for personal glory, bringing most of the other major groups on board with forming the Smugglers' Alliance.

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** From the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'', Talon Karrde, Mara Jade, and the rest of the Smugglers' Alliance in ''TheThrawnTrilogy''.''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy''. Took a MistreatmentInducedBetrayal to convince Karrde and Jade, and they had a hard time convincing the others. When they tried to do so, perhaps having realized his previous mistake with Karrde's organization, Thrawn gave specific orders to leave the other smugglers alone so that they'd continue to have no dog in the fight. A less intelligent informant of Thrawn's managed to ruin this in a play for personal glory, bringing most of the other major groups on board with forming the Smugglers' Alliance.
28th Jan '16 9:08:28 AM Morgenthaler
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* Happens a couple of times in MichaelClayton to two different characters.

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* Happens a couple of times in MichaelClayton Film/MichaelClayton to two different characters.
29th May '15 7:59:18 PM Faolin
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** It also helps that [[spoiler: she was developing a crush on one of the good guys before making the aforementioned choice. And, thanks to her seer powers, knew she would have a deliriously happy marriage to the guy in the event that Light triumphed. Makes you wonder why the Dark thought letting her choose was a good idea.]]
23rd May '15 8:49:22 PM SSJMagus
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** From the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'', Talon Karrde, Mara Jade, and the rest of the Smugglers' Alliance in ''TheThrawnTrilogy''. Took a MistreatmentInducedBetrayal to convince Karrde and Jade, and they had a hard time convincing the others.

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** From the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'', Talon Karrde, Mara Jade, and the rest of the Smugglers' Alliance in ''TheThrawnTrilogy''. Took a MistreatmentInducedBetrayal to convince Karrde and Jade, and they had a hard time convincing the others. When they tried to do so, perhaps having realized his previous mistake with Karrde's organization, Thrawn gave specific orders to leave the other smugglers alone so that they'd continue to have no dog in the fight. A less intelligent informant of Thrawn's managed to ruin this in a play for personal glory, bringing most of the other major groups on board with forming the Smugglers' Alliance.
30th Apr '15 10:22:23 PM VanSisean
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* Asajj Ventress from ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' seems to routinely default to good after [[spoiler:her master's betrayal]] causes her to undergo a significant MoralityAdjustment and ends up falling somewhere between AntiHero and AntiVillain status.

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* Asajj Ventress from ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' seems to routinely default to good after [[spoiler:her master's betrayal]] causes her to undergo a significant MoralityAdjustment and ends that eventually has her end up falling somewhere between AntiHero and AntiVillain status.
30th Apr '15 10:22:05 PM VanSisean
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* Asajj Ventress from ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' seems to routinely default to good after [[spoiler:her master's betrayal]] causes her to undergoes a significant MoralityAdjustment and ends up falling somewhere between AntiHero and AntiVillain status.

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* Asajj Ventress from ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' seems to routinely default to good after [[spoiler:her master's betrayal]] causes her to undergoes undergo a significant MoralityAdjustment and ends up falling somewhere between AntiHero and AntiVillain status.
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