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9th Sep '17 9:35:21 PM HawkbitAlpha
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[[caption-width-right:235:Guess what happens next...]]

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17th Aug '17 4:41:05 PM VelvetPierrot
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* Several of the characters in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'', most notably [[spoiler: Seymour]] (after the party kills him) and [[spoiler: party member Auron (from the beginning)]], are actually "unsent" -- souls that have not passed to the local afterlife, the Farplane. As such, the only way to dispatch them permanently is to have Yuna "send" them; this isn't a harmful or painful process, but a soul ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2 generally]]'' can't come back from the Farplane afterward, and the targets in question are usually rather hostile about the prospect.
* In ''Videogame/FinalFantasyVII'', Sephiroth's human body died five years before the events of the game and his body was dissolved in the lifestream, but his soul fuses with Jenova and is reborn. You then end up killing his reborn body at the planet's core. Then you kill his soul in form of a [[OneWingedAngel grotesque mutated angel]]. THEN Cloud kills Sephiroth's astral form in a one-on-one duel in the Lifestream. No other villain in the series has the honor of being this dead, or at least until ''[[Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren Advent Children]]''.
* In ''Videogame/FinalFantasyV'', the heroes fight [[BigBad Exdeath]] midway through the game, and even though everyone else was defeated, [[{{Determinator}} Galuf keeps fighting at 0 HP while Exdeath blasts him with enough damage to kill him many times over]]. He manages to drive Exdeath away, but he's driven to a point where not even the party's Life spells and items can revive him (and yes, [[GameplayAndStoryIntegration they do try]]).
* In ''Videogame/LightningReturnsFinalFantasyXIII'', a major plot by a certain antagonist involves this. See, in the dying remnants of the world where people have stopped aging AND giving birth to new people, the souls of the dead still exist inside the Chaos currently swallowing up the world. Those souls are still intact because living folks remember them. The reverse is true as well; the living have memories of the dead because those deceased souls are still intact. Thanks to this, all these dead people could be carried into the new world and reborn just like everyone else. [[spoiler:On Bhunivelze's command, the Order of Salvation seeks to prevent this with the holy clavis, which can destroy each and every one of those dead souls AND people's memories of them, completely negating the cycle. This will prevent the "unclean" from entering the new world and erase the "inconvenient" past.]]

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* Several of the Happens to several characters in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'', most notably [[spoiler: Seymour]] (after ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'':
** In ''Videogame/FinalFantasyV'',
the party kills him) heroes fight [[BigBad Exdeath]] midway through the game, and [[spoiler: party member Auron (from even though everyone else was defeated, [[{{Determinator}} Galuf keeps fighting at 0 HP while Exdeath blasts him with enough damage to kill him many times over]]. He manages to drive Exdeath away, but he's driven to a point where not even the beginning)]], are actually "unsent" -- souls that have not passed to the local afterlife, the Farplane. As such, the only way to dispatch them permanently is to have Yuna "send" them; this isn't a harmful or painful process, but a soul ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2 generally]]'' can't come back from the Farplane afterward, party's Life spells and the targets in question are usually rather hostile about the prospect.
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items can revive him (and yes, [[GameplayAndStoryIntegration they do try]]).
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In ''Videogame/FinalFantasyVII'', Sephiroth's human body died five years before the events of the game and his body was dissolved in the lifestream, but his soul fuses with Jenova and is reborn. You then end up killing his reborn body at the planet's core. Then you kill his soul in form of a [[OneWingedAngel grotesque mutated angel]]. THEN Cloud kills Sephiroth's astral form in a one-on-one duel in the Lifestream. No other villain in the series has the honor of being this dead, or at least until ''[[Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren Advent Children]]''.
* In ''Videogame/FinalFantasyV'', ** Several of the heroes fight [[BigBad Exdeath]] midway through characters in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'', most notably [[spoiler: Seymour]] (after the game, party kills him) and even though everyone else was defeated, [[{{Determinator}} Galuf keeps fighting at 0 HP while Exdeath blasts him with enough damage [[spoiler: party member Auron (from the beginning)]], are actually "unsent" -- souls that have not passed to kill him many times over]]. He manages the local afterlife, the Farplane. As such, the only way to drive Exdeath away, dispatch them permanently is to have Yuna "send" them; this isn't a harmful or painful process, but he's driven to a point where not even soul ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2 generally]]'' can't come back from the party's Life spells Farplane afterward, and items can revive him (and yes, [[GameplayAndStoryIntegration they do try]]).
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the targets in question are usually rather hostile about the prospect.
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In ''Videogame/LightningReturnsFinalFantasyXIII'', a major plot by a certain antagonist involves this. See, in the dying remnants of the world where people have stopped aging AND giving birth to new people, the souls of the dead still exist inside the Chaos currently swallowing up the world. Those souls are still intact because living folks remember them. The reverse is true as well; the living have memories of the dead because those deceased souls are still intact. Thanks to this, all these dead people could be carried into the new world and reborn just like everyone else. [[spoiler:On Bhunivelze's command, the Order of Salvation seeks to prevent this with the holy clavis, which can destroy each and every one of those dead souls AND people's memories of them, completely negating the cycle. This will prevent the "unclean" from entering the new world and erase the "inconvenient" past.]]
10th Aug '17 4:48:53 PM thatother1dude
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* Magic Man's wife Margles in ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'', who was "taken away" by an EldritchAbomination. Even a wish from RealityWarper Prismo can't bring her back, which shocks even him.

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* Magic Man's wife Margles in ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'', who ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' was "taken away" by an EldritchAbomination. Even EldritchAbomination, and even a wish from RealityWarper Prismo can't bring her back, back (it just summons a wastebasket), which shocks even him.
1st Aug '17 5:50:43 PM MBG
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** A number of cards can be used to banish a card facedown, which is more or less this - it's been ruled that, since it's facedown, that means it can't be identified by other cards, so any attempt to bring back a specific card that's been banished facedown won't work. Only cards that return ''all'' banished cards, notably Necroface and Elemental HERO Electrum, can bring those back. This is tricky to use against the opponent, though, as most cards with this effect are based on banishing your own cards as a cost.
30th Jul '17 10:19:36 PM BobRiddle
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** ''Series/TokumeiSentaiGoBusters'': [[spoiler:Enter made Hiromu into a SoulJar in an earlier battle by implanting Messiah Card #13 into his body, causing him to serve as a source for Enter to restore himself from no matter how many times he might perish as long as Hiromu still lives. This also gives him complete knowledge of everything about Hiromu, including his weakpoint. It was finally destroyed thanks to Jin's HeroicSacrifice, allowing him to be destroyed.]]


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** [=DaiMaOh=] himself near the finale. [[spoiler:When his larval form is killed, his soul survives and fuses with Dr. Worm. However, once [=DaiMaOh=] enters his final form, the [=MaDan=] Warriors destroy him completely]].
29th Jul '17 12:22:28 AM BobRiddle
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* ''VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}}'' [[spoiler:punches Jubileus' soul into the sun]].
29th Jul '17 12:15:59 AM BobRiddle
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* ''Series/MadanSenkiRyukendo'': [[spoiler: The three Ultimate Madan Keys]] give Lady Gold, Bloody and Rock Crimson the ability to revive every time. Until they're taken out by force.
19th Jul '17 11:55:33 AM BeerBaron
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* ''Videogame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion'': Umaril the Unfeathered, main baddie of the Knights of the Nine add-on, is allied with [[OurDemonsAreDifferent the Daedric Lord Meridia]] and can eventually return to the physical world if defeated; it takes the Champion of Cyrodiil, eight holy relics, the blessing of a ninth and defeat in both the physical and spiritual planes to kill Umaril for good.
* ''Videogame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': the Dragonborn is the only one who can permanently slay Dragons by absorbing their souls upon death which prevents Alduin from resurrecting them in new bodies.
** Alduin, the World Eater dragon, cannot die from merely being defeated in open battle. After doing this, you have to follow him to [[spoiler:Sovngarde, the nordic afterlife]] where you kill him.
** Necromancy spells cause this as reanimated corpses turn to dust after a certain amount of time, preventing them from being raised repeatedly. Decapitation also prevents them from becoming undead in the first place.

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* ''Videogame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion'': ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** In ''[[Videogame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'''s ''Knights of the Nine'' expansion, [[BigBad
Umaril the Unfeathered, main baddie of the Knights of the Nine add-on, Unfeathered]] is allied with [[OurDemonsAreDifferent the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Lord Meridia]] and can eventually Prince]] [[LightIsNotGood Meridia]]. This pact with Meridia allows him to return to the physical mortal world if defeated; it takes slain. In order to finally defeat him, the [[PlayerCharacter Champion of Cyrodiil, Cyrodiil]] must collected eight holy relics, relics forged by the original [[SaintlyChurch Eight Divines]] and the blessing of a ninth and the Ninth, [[DeityOfHumanOrigin Talos]], then defeat him in both the physical and spiritual planes to kill Umaril for good.
* ''Videogame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': ** ''[[Videogame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'':
*** To fully kill a [[OurDragonsAreDifferent dragon]], you must first destroy its body and then [[YourSoulIsMine absorb its soul]]. While anyone of sufficient ability can do
the Dragonborn is the former, only one who can permanently slay Dragons by absorbing their souls upon death which prevents Alduin from resurrecting them in new bodies.
** Alduin,
another dragon (or a [[TheChosenOne Dragonborn]]) is capable of the latter. Failure to absorb a dragon's soul leaves open the possibility of it being [[ResurrectiveImmortality resurrected]] in the future.
*** [[BigBad Alduin]], the "[[BeastOfTheApocalypse
World Eater dragon, Eater]]" and "first born" of the dragons, cannot die from merely being defeated in open battle. After doing this, you have to the [[PlayerCharacter Dragonborn]] must follow him to [[spoiler:Sovngarde, the nordic afterlife]] into [[WarriorHeaven Sovngarde]], where you kill him.
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he has retreated to [[SoulEating consume the souls of the dead]], and slay him there. Even then, the Dragonborn does not absorb his soul, meaning that he will likely return one day to fulfill his duty as world eater.
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Necromancy spells cause this as reanimated corpses turn to dust after a certain amount of time, preventing them from being raised repeatedly. Decapitation also prevents them from becoming undead in the first place.
13th Jul '17 12:58:26 PM DarkHunter
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** Meanwhile, Beerus (and presumably all Gods of Destruction) has the ability to simply delete whatever he wishes. This can range from the dead to other gods. They just... go away, usually screaming. Despite having the Dragon Balls, the show treats it as deadly serious and there seems to be no coming back from destruction.

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** Meanwhile, Beerus (and presumably all Gods of Destruction) has the a similar ability to simply delete "destroy" whatever he wishes. This While not as powerful as Zen'O's version, it has similar effects. He has demonstrated that he can range from destroy both the dead to and other gods. They just... go away, usually screaming. Despite having the Dragon Balls, the show treats it as deadly serious and there seems to be no coming back from destruction.
13th Jul '17 12:54:01 PM DarkHunter
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** ''Everyone'' in Future Trunks's home timeline barring Future Trunks himself, Future Mai and Future Zen'O are not only dead but also have their souls and afterlife completely wiped out due to the latter erasing everything in existence within its confines in order to stop [[EldritchAbomination Merged Zamasu's non-corporeal form]] from infecting everything and eventually spreading into other timelines.

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** ''Everyone'' Zen'O is stated to have the ability to "erase" anything he wants. This is treated as much more severe than death, since it wipes out the soul along with the body, and is further implied to be irreversible. This happens to ''everyone'' in Future Trunks's home timeline barring Future Trunks himself, Future Mai and Future Zen'O are Zen'O; not only are they dead but they've also have had their souls and afterlife completely wiped out due to the latter Future Zen'O erasing everything in existence within its confines the timeline in order to stop [[EldritchAbomination Merged Zamasu's non-corporeal form]] from infecting everything and eventually spreading into other timelines.
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