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10th Dec '17 5:08:55 PM Malady
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* In the post-Melding Plague "Rust Belt" orbital settlement in Alastair Reynolds' ''RevelationSpace'' universe, comitting an atrocius crime - for example, seriously damaging a space habitat - can land one a penalty called "irreversable brain death". As described in ''RedemptionArk'', it is a form of death sentence where not only the physical body of the convict is destroyed, but so is every existing computer simulation of the person, so that they can't be brought back into any form of existence ever again. One of the secondary characters tries to avoid this fate by making Antoinette's Bax father hide his Alpha (capable of learning and mentally growing like a real person) simulation inside the family spaceship before his real body is killed, posing as the ship's onboard AI Beast. Antoinette is not amused when she finds out.

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* In the post-Melding Plague "Rust Belt" orbital settlement in Alastair Reynolds' ''RevelationSpace'' ''Literature/RevelationSpace'' universe, comitting an atrocius crime - for example, seriously damaging a space habitat - can land one a penalty called "irreversable brain death". As described in ''RedemptionArk'', ''Literature/RedemptionArk'', it is a form of death sentence where not only the physical body of the convict is destroyed, but so is every existing computer simulation of the person, so that they can't be brought back into any form of existence ever again. One of the secondary characters tries to avoid this fate by making Antoinette's Bax father hide his Alpha (capable of learning and mentally growing like a real person) simulation inside the family spaceship before his real body is killed, posing as the ship's onboard AI Beast. Antoinette is not amused when she finds out.



-->'''Giles:''' You [[DreamingOfThingsToCome dreamt]] that the Master had risen, but you stopped it from happening.
-->'''Xander:''' You ground his bones to make your bread.
-->'''Buffy:''' That's true--except for the bread part.

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-->'''Giles:''' You [[DreamingOfThingsToCome dreamt]] {{dream|ingOfThingsToCome}}t that the Master had risen, but you stopped it from happening.
-->'''Xander:'''
happening.\\
'''Xander:'''
You ground his bones to make your bread.
-->'''Buffy:'''
bread.\\
'''Buffy:'''
That's true--except for the bread part.
3rd Dec '17 5:13:43 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* The [[WaveMotionGun Arc-en-ciel]] in ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' destroys something by ''distorting the very fabric of time and space'' to make sure it's really gone. That still wasn't enough to stop the {{Nigh Invulnerab|ility}}le [[EnemyWithout corrupted self-defense program]] of Reinforce from [[BackFromTheDead reincarnating again]]. To make sure it's really dead, [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Reinforce]] had to [[HeroicSacrifice willingly delete herself]] to prevent her Rejuvenation Program from bringing it back.

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* The [[WaveMotionGun Arc-en-ciel]] in ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAs'' destroys something by ''distorting the very fabric of time and space'' to make sure it's really gone. That still wasn't enough to stop the {{Nigh Invulnerab|ility}}le [[EnemyWithout corrupted self-defense program]] of Reinforce from [[BackFromTheDead reincarnating again]]. To make sure it's really dead, [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Reinforce]] had to [[HeroicSacrifice willingly delete herself]] to prevent her Rejuvenation Program from bringing it back.
3rd Dec '17 2:18:01 AM Fireblood
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* ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity'': In order to insure that someone ''stays'' dead (given that powerful healers are able to resurrect them), assassins will burn the body or cut out their heart. Sam's done about a dozen "permanent" assassinations.
19th Nov '17 7:27:32 PM WaterBlap
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** Also worth noting: while supernatural deaths can be fixed with powerful magic, normal deaths can't. ([[CameBackWrong Well, not well, anyway]].) So Buffy's HeroicSacrifice throwing herself into a whirlpool of cosmic power to save the multiverse? Fixable. [[spoiler:Tara]] getting shot by a nerd with delusions of grandeur? Sorry, [[EgyptianMythology Osiris]] would love to help but that's too much for him to handle, apparently.

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** Also worth noting: while supernatural deaths can be fixed with powerful magic, normal deaths can't. ([[CameBackWrong Well, not well, anyway]].) So Buffy's HeroicSacrifice throwing herself into a whirlpool of cosmic power to save the multiverse? Fixable. [[spoiler:Tara]] getting shot by a nerd with delusions of grandeur? Sorry, [[EgyptianMythology [[Myth/EgyptianMythology Osiris]] would love to help but that's too much for him to handle, apparently.
12th Nov '17 8:03:51 AM lillolillo
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* Don Hall (the first Dove of the Hawk and Dove duo) is so dead that [[ComicBook/BlackestNight the zombie-creating Black Lantern rings]] cannot so much as disturb the dirt around his grave. This is apparently because pacifist Don was "at peace" when he died, compared to most dead heroes who most assuredly weren't.

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* In ''Franchise/GreenLantern'' story ''ComicBook/BlackestNight'', Don Hall (the first Dove of the Hawk and Dove duo) is so dead that [[ComicBook/BlackestNight the zombie-creating Black Lantern rings]] rings cannot so much as disturb the dirt around his grave. This is apparently because pacifist Don was "at peace" when he died, compared to most dead heroes who most assuredly weren't.



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6th Nov '17 11:02:30 PM BobRiddle
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* ''ComicBook/DarkEmpire'': [[spoiler: Palpatine's spirit is dragged into the Force and trapped there by ''every single Jedi spirit'', making sure that he can ''never'' return, clones or not.]]
6th Nov '17 12:41:07 PM Shadoboy
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'': Skeletons in the Land of the Dead who are being forgotten by people in the land of the living start to weaken and have spasms while glowing orange. If they are completely forgotten they dissapear, something reffered to as Final Death. Nobody knows what happens to them after that.
2nd Nov '17 12:32:45 AM Linda58
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* In ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/8793565/chapters/20159878 How the Light Gets In]]'', Dean tortured and killed Damien Darhk to avenge Laurel. Aware that people can come BackFromTheDead, Dean then had the body salted and burned (prevetning him from coming back as a ghost) ''and'' spread the ashes across the US, ensuring no one will ever be able to resurrect him.
2nd Nov '17 12:16:44 AM Linda58
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* The fact that the Sarcophagus device can be used to bring people back from the dead can also necessitate this. The Tok'ra at one point mention they have a way to ensure they can't be revived with a Sarcophagus, which would lead to certain torture and eventually giving up vital information. Exactly ''what'' this method is is never explained, but probably involves RemovingTheHeadOrDestroyingTheBrain.
25th Oct '17 9:47:53 PM Andygal
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* In ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'', the only way to be sure that the Dark One doesn't reincarnate the Forsaken, his lieutenants, is to kill them with Balefire, which retroactively erases them from the timeline a few minutes. This causes the Dark One to miss the window of opportunity to pull them back into the Pattern (time). In addition, killing a spirit residing in ''tel'aran'rhiod'', the World of Dreams, causes that spirit to be removed from the Pattern altogether.

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* In ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'', the only way to be sure that the Dark One doesn't reincarnate the Forsaken, his lieutenants, is to kill them with Balefire, which retroactively erases them from the timeline a few minutes.minutes backwards. This causes the Dark One to miss the window of opportunity to pull them back into the Pattern (time). In addition, killing a spirit residing in ''tel'aran'rhiod'', the World of Dreams, causes that spirit to be removed from the Pattern altogether.
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