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* ''VideoGame/{{Bubsy}}'' was [[ThisIsGoingToBeHuge originally hyped as the next]] ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog''. Electronic Gaming Monthly even gave him an award for being the most hyped character of 1993. When the first game came out, it received mostly favorable reviews. However, a combination of a [[WesternAnimation/{{Bubsy}} failed cartoon]] and sequels that got less and less positive reaction per installment (ranging from the [[SoOkayItsAverage painfully mediocre]] ''Bubsy 2'' to the [[PolygonCeiling trainwreck]] that was ''Bubsy 3D'') [[FranchiseKiller have put this bobcat into a lengthy coma]]. History hasn't been kind to the original game either, as it's now held up as an example of everything wrong with [[MascotWithAttitude mascot-based]] platformers, citing problems such as slippery controls and Bubsy himself being annoying. Creator/RobPaulsen has [[OldShame completely disowned having voiced Bubsy]], at least in the pilot. While ''The Woolies Strike Back'' hopes to put the bobcat through rehab, not everyone is holding their breath, and some think he should have never woken up.
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* ''VideoGame/{{Bubsy}}'' was [[ThisIsGoingToBeHuge originally hyped as the next]] ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog''. Electronic Gaming Monthly even gave him an award for being the most hyped character of 1993. When the first game came out, it received mostly favorable reviews. However, a combination of a [[WesternAnimation/{{Bubsy}} failed cartoon]] and sequels that got less and less positive reaction per installment (ranging from the [[SoOkayItsAverage painfully mediocre]] ''Bubsy 2'' to the [[PolygonCeiling trainwreck]] that was ''Bubsy 3D'') [[FranchiseKiller have put this bobcat to sleep]]. History hasn't been kind to the original game either, as it's now held up as an example of everything wrong with [[MascotWithAttitude mascot-based]] platformers, citing problems such as slippery controls and Bubsy himself being annoying. Creator/RobPaulsen has [[OldShame completely disowned having voiced Bubsy]], at least in the pilot.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Bubsy}}'' was [[ThisIsGoingToBeHuge originally hyped as the next]] ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog''. Electronic Gaming Monthly even gave him an award for being the most hyped character of 1993. When the first game came out, it received mostly favorable reviews. However, a combination of a [[WesternAnimation/{{Bubsy}} failed cartoon]] and sequels that got less and less positive reaction per installment (ranging from the [[SoOkayItsAverage painfully mediocre]] ''Bubsy 2'' to the [[PolygonCeiling trainwreck]] that was ''Bubsy 3D'') [[FranchiseKiller have put this bobcat to sleep]].into a lengthy coma]]. History hasn't been kind to the original game either, as it's now held up as an example of everything wrong with [[MascotWithAttitude mascot-based]] platformers, citing problems such as slippery controls and Bubsy himself being annoying. Creator/RobPaulsen has [[OldShame completely disowned having voiced Bubsy]], at least in the pilot.
pilot. While ''The Woolies Strike Back'' hopes to put the bobcat through rehab, not everyone is holding their breath, and some think he should have never woken up.
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* The 2005 adaptation of ''Film/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory'' was a huge success that summer, bringing Creator/TimBurton and Creator/JohnnyDepp together for the first time since 1999 and becoming their highest-grossing collaboration up to that point. It was warmly received by critics and set the stage for the enormously successful ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' five years later.\\

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* The 2005 adaptation of ''Film/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory'' As discussed in [[http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2011-03/15/gq-film-godfather-part-four this article]], ''Film/TheGodfatherPartIII'' received mostly positive reviews when initially released, with some critics like Gene Siskel and Alexander Walker ranking it among 1990's best. It also was a huge respectable box office success and earned seven Oscar nominations, including Best Picture. Backlash began soon afterwards, triggered by multiple sources: criticism of Creator/SofiaCoppola's performance, press coverage of its TroubledProduction,[[note]]Coppola himself would specifically blame Peter J. Boyer's ''Vanity Fair'' article "Under the Gun," which focused largely on the film's casting difficulties.[[/note]] author Mario Puzo distancing himself from the movie, director Creator/FrancisFordCoppola openly commenting that summer, bringing Creator/TimBurton [[MoneyDearBoy he made the film to clear his debts]], and Creator/JohnnyDepp together for a scathing ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' parody. Being shutout at the Oscars intensified the criticism. The final nail in the coffin was, ironically enough, ''Film/{{Goodfellas}}'', another mafia movie released the same year quickly capturing the same reputation as the first two ''Godfather'' films. Within a decade ''Part III'' became a punch-line, frequently mocked throughout the '90s as a [[{{Sequelitis}} textbook bad sequel]] or being on the bad end of DuelingMovies. While not as universally reviled today, it remains a ContestedSequel even among ''Godfather'' fans.

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* Of all the members of the Creator/BratPack, none has fallen quite as hard as Creator/MollyRingwald. Back in the 1980s, Ringwald was both the face of the group and a legitimate A-lister. She achieved a Golden Globe nomination for ''Film/{{Tempest}}'' and rose to stardom as a teen actress with her roles in ''Film/SixteenCandles'', ''Film/TheBreakfastClub'', and ''Film/PrettyInPink''. Critics, including Creator/RogerEbert, praised her for her charm and down-to-earth everygirl qualities. She even made the cover of ''Time'' magazine around the
time since 1999 and becoming their highest-grossing collaboration up to that point. It of ''Pretty in Pink'' was warmly received by critics and set the stage for the enormously successful ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' five years later.released, further cementing her meteoric rise to fame.\\



However, back in 1971, a different adaptation of the Creator/RoaldDahl book was released[[note]]This version made far less money, but it also ''cost'' far less money to make; on a percentage basis, the profitabilility of the two films was roughly comparable, at $4m on a $3m budget vs. $206m on a $150m budget[[/note]], titled ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory''. While this would normally not be an issue for a re-adaptation of a book, by the time ''Charlie'' came out, ''Willy Wonka'' [[VindicatedByHistory had become a near-universally beloved family movie]], with now-iconic musical numbers and a classic performance from Creator/GeneWilder; this version [[AdaptationDisplacement eclipsed the source novel in the public consciousness]] and became the source of [[CharlieAndTheChocolateParody numerous pop culture spoofs]]. Thus, there were many viewers that regarded the 2005 film as an insult to the original rather than a faithful adaptation of Dahl's book. In ''Willy Wonka''[='=]s colossal shadow, the newer film's backlash grew immensely, with chief box office rival ''Film/WeddingCrashers'' ultimately holding up much better over time (it edged out ''Charlie''[='=]s final gross in North America), inspiring [[Music/{{Maroon5}} music videos]] a decade after the fact.\\

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However, back in 1971, a different adaptation of the Creator/RoaldDahl book was released[[note]]This version made far less money, but it also ''cost'' far less money to make; on a percentage basis, the profitabilility of the two films was roughly comparable, at $4m on a $3m budget vs. $206m on a $150m budget[[/note]], titled ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory''. While this Ringwald would normally not be an issue for a re-adaptation of a book, by the time ''Charlie'' came out, ''Willy Wonka'' [[VindicatedByHistory had become a near-universally beloved family movie]], cut ties with now-iconic musical numbers writer/director Creator/JohnHughes in an effort to progress into more grown-up roles. [[TemptingFate Almost immediately]], things started to go south, and a classic performance from Creator/GeneWilder; this version [[AdaptationDisplacement eclipsed the source novel in the public consciousness]] ''fast''. ''The Pick-Up Artist'' and became the source of [[CharlieAndTheChocolateParody numerous pop culture spoofs]]. Thus, there ''Fresh Horses'' were many viewers that regarded the 2005 film as an insult to the original rather than a faithful adaptation of Dahl's book. In ''Willy Wonka''[='=]s colossal shadow, the newer film's backlash grew immensely, with chief both critical and box office rival ''Film/WeddingCrashers'' ultimately holding up much better over failures, and when Ringwald tried to do damage control by [[OscarBait aiming for the Oscar]] with the teen pregnancy film ''Film/ForKeeps'', the destruction of her reputation was more or less complete. She then turned down the lead roles in the hit movies ''Film/{{Ghost}}'' and ''Film/PrettyWoman'', which [[StarMakingRole catapulted]] Creator/DemiMoore (a fellow Brat Packer) and Creator/JuliaRoberts onto the A-list. Critics and fans turned against her in droves, with producer Jeffrey Katzenberg infamously saying he "wouldn't know (her) if she sat on his face." By the time (it edged out ''Charlie''[='=]s final gross in North America), inspiring [[Music/{{Maroon5}} music videos]] a decade after the fact.disastrous ''Betsy's Wedding'' came out, Ringwald's career was already over. Adding insult to injury, Ringwald began to receive scathing criticism for her acting: ironically, the very thing that got her noticed in the first place.\\



Today, while ''Willy Wonka'' is still the timeless classic it has been for over 25 years, ''Charlie'' is hardly ever acknowledged in pop culture unless it is to be unfavorably compared to its 1971 counterpart (a possible exception being the fact that it was the StarMakingRole of Creator/AnnaSophiaRobb, whose more sympathetic take on Violet is probably more popular that the literary or '71 versions; the 2005 Mike also generally has a bigger fanbase than the '71 one). The film is today seen as the beginning of Burton's DorkAge, Depp's Wonka is regarded as one of his all-time worst performances, and "Wonka's Welcome Song" has become one of the most hated ear-worms in film history. The consensus seems to be that aside from the modern-day visual effects and its effort to be TruerToTheText, there's nothing that ''Charlie'' does better than ''Willy Wonka''; the latter strength is undercut by an AdaptationExpansion {{Backstory}} for Mr. Wonka that results in a severe AdaptationPersonalityChange, a NotHisSled ending[[note]]which happened mainly because Roald Dahl himself left it in his will that the book's sequel can never be made into a film; Burton changed the ending to remove the SequelHook[[/note]] and a narrative that didn't flow as well with the focus being taken off Charlie. If Depp's domestic abuse scandal in May 2016 wasn't enough to kill the film's reputation, then it must have been Gene Wilder's death in August that year, which [[DeadArtistsAreBetter firmly solidified the 1971 film]] as the definitive adaptation of the book.
* As discussed in [[http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2011-03/15/gq-film-godfather-part-four this article]], ''Film/TheGodfatherPartIII'' received mostly positive reviews when initially released, with some critics like Gene Siskel and Alexander Walker ranking it among 1990's best. It also was a respectable box office success and earned seven Oscar nominations, including Best Picture. Backlash began soon afterwards, triggered by multiple sources: criticism of Creator/SofiaCoppola's performance, press coverage of its TroubledProduction,[[note]]Coppola himself would specifically blame Peter J. Boyer's ''Vanity Fair'' article "Under the Gun," which focused largely on the film's casting difficulties.[[/note]] author Mario Puzo distancing himself from the movie, director Creator/FrancisFordCoppola openly commenting that [[MoneyDearBoy he made the film to clear his debts]], and a scathing ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' parody. Being shutout at the Oscars intensified the criticism. The final nail in the coffin was, ironically enough, ''Film/{{Goodfellas}}'', another mafia movie released the same year quickly capturing the same reputation as the first two ''Godfather'' films. Within a decade ''Part III'' became a punch-line, frequently mocked throughout the '90s as a [[{{Sequelitis}} textbook bad sequel]] or being on the bad end of DuelingMovies. While not as universally reviled today, it remains a ContestedSequel even among ''Godfather'' fans.

[[AC:Specific Filmmakers And Stars]]
* Of all the members of the Creator/BratPack, none has fallen quite as hard as Creator/MollyRingwald. Back in the 1980s, Ringwald was both the face of the group and a legitimate A-lister. She achieved a Golden Globe nomination for ''Film/{{Tempest}}'' and rose to stardom as a teen actress with her roles in ''Film/SixteenCandles'', ''Film/TheBreakfastClub'', and ''Film/PrettyInPink''. Critics, including Creator/RogerEbert, praised her for her charm and down-to-earth everygirl qualities. She even made the cover of ''Time'' magazine around the time of ''Pretty in Pink'' was released, further cementing her meteoric rise to fame.\\

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Today, while ''Willy Wonka'' is While ''The Breakfast Club'' still the timeless stands as a classic it has been for over 25 years, ''Charlie'' is hardly ever acknowledged in pop culture unless it is to be unfavorably compared to on its 1971 counterpart (a possible exception being the fact that it was the StarMakingRole of Creator/AnnaSophiaRobb, whose more sympathetic take on Violet is probably more popular that the literary or '71 versions; the 2005 Mike also generally has a bigger fanbase than the '71 one). The film is today seen as the beginning of Burton's DorkAge, Depp's Wonka is own merits, it's now regarded as one more of his all-time worst performances, an ensemble piece than anything, and "Wonka's Welcome Song" has become her performance is often seen as one of the most hated ear-worms in film history. The consensus seems to be that aside from the modern-day visual effects and its effort to be TruerToTheText, there's nothing that ''Charlie'' does better than ''Willy Wonka''; the latter strength is undercut by an AdaptationExpansion {{Backstory}} for Mr. Wonka that results in a severe AdaptationPersonalityChange, a NotHisSled ending[[note]]which happened mainly because Roald Dahl himself left it in his will that the book's sequel can never be made into a film; Burton changed the ending to remove the SequelHook[[/note]] and a narrative that didn't flow as well with the focus being taken off Charlie. If Depp's domestic abuse scandal in May 2016 wasn't enough to kill the film's reputation, then it must have been Gene Wilder's death in August that year, which [[DeadArtistsAreBetter firmly solidified the 1971 film]] as the definitive adaptation few weaker elements of the book.
* As discussed in [[http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2011-03/15/gq-film-godfather-part-four this article]], ''Film/TheGodfatherPartIII'' received mostly positive reviews when initially released, with some critics like Gene Siskel
movie. ''Sixteen Candles'' and Alexander Walker ranking it among 1990's best. It also was a respectable box office success and earned seven Oscar nominations, including Best Picture. Backlash began soon afterwards, triggered by multiple sources: criticism of Creator/SofiaCoppola's performance, press coverage of its TroubledProduction,[[note]]Coppola himself would specifically blame Peter J. Boyer's ''Vanity Fair'' article "Under the Gun," which focused largely on the film's casting difficulties.[[/note]] author Mario Puzo distancing himself from the movie, director Creator/FrancisFordCoppola openly commenting that [[MoneyDearBoy he made the film to clear his debts]], and a scathing ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' parody. Being shutout at the Oscars intensified the criticism. The final nail in the coffin was, ironically enough, ''Film/{{Goodfellas}}'', another mafia movie released the same year quickly capturing the same reputation as the first two ''Godfather'' films. Within a decade ''Part III'' became a punch-line, frequently mocked throughout the '90s as a [[{{Sequelitis}} textbook bad sequel]] or being on the bad end of DuelingMovies. While not as universally reviled today, it remains a ContestedSequel even among ''Godfather'' fans.

[[AC:Specific Filmmakers And Stars]]
* Of all the members of the Creator/BratPack, none has fallen quite as hard as Creator/MollyRingwald. Back in the 1980s, Ringwald was both the face of the group and a legitimate A-lister. She achieved a Golden Globe nomination for ''Film/{{Tempest}}'' and rose to stardom as a teen actress with her roles in ''Film/SixteenCandles'', ''Film/TheBreakfastClub'', and ''Film/PrettyInPink''. Critics, including Creator/RogerEbert, praised her for her charm and down-to-earth everygirl qualities. She even made the cover of ''Time'' magazine around the time of
''Pretty in Pink'' Pink'', meanwhile, are remembered primarily as [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece '80s time-capsule pieces]] rife with questionable messages. Ringwald's characters, once seen as progressive for the time, are now viewed as {{wangst}}y, [[ItsAllAboutMe egotistical]] {{Jerkass}}es. At best, she's considered a OneHitWonder for ''The Breakfast Club'' who was released, further cementing only good in her meteoric rise collaborations with John Hughes, and at worst, she's the personification of everything that was wrong with the {{Teen Idol}}s of TheEighties. [[FleetingDemographic Many former fans that idolized her in their youth have outgrown her]], and will [[OldShame vehemently refuse to fame.admit she was even that good to begin with]]. One sign of this hatedom was the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS5E18MeetTheQuagmires Meet the Quagmires]]", where Peter [[EveryoneHasStandards reacts in disgust]] after he finds out he's married Ringwald in another timeline.\\



However, Ringwald would cut ties with writer/director Creator/JohnHughes in an effort to progress into more grown-up roles. [[TemptingFate Almost immediately]], things started to go south, and ''fast''. ''The Pick-Up Artist'' and ''Fresh Horses'' were both critical and box office failures, and when Ringwald tried to do damage control by [[OscarBait aiming for the Oscar]] with the teen pregnancy film ''Film/ForKeeps'', the destruction of her reputation was more or less complete. She then turned down the lead roles in the hit movies ''Film/{{Ghost}}'' and ''Film/PrettyWoman'', which [[StarMakingRole catapulted]] Creator/DemiMoore (a fellow Brat Packer) and Creator/JuliaRoberts onto the A-list. Critics and fans turned against her in droves, with producer Jeffrey Katzenberg infamously saying he "wouldn't know (her) if she sat on his face." By the time the disastrous ''Betsy's Wedding'' came out, Ringwald's career was already over. Adding insult to injury, Ringwald began to receive scathing criticism for her acting: ironically, the very thing that got her noticed in the first place.\\

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However, Today, Ringwald, once a sensation, is now seen as [[AnyoneRememberPogs an '80s punchline]]. She mostly acts in smaller roles on television and DirectToVideo movies for [[MoneyDearBoy a quick paycheck]], such as the protagonist's mother on ''Series/TheSecretLifeOfTheAmericanTeenager'', and Aunt Bailey in the notorious BoxOfficeBomb ''Film/JemAndTheHolograms''. Neither of these roles particularly won any fans back and arguably lent further credence to the already vicious backlash. Nowadays (as of 2017) she can be seen on ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'' as Franchise/{{Archie|Comics}}'s mother Mary; the show was a hit right out of the gate and was renewed for a second season... [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg but Ringwald would cut ties with writer/director Creator/JohnHughes doesn't seem to be included in an effort the hype]]. At this point, it will take a miracle for her to progress into more grown-up roles. [[TemptingFate Almost immediately]], things ever regain a fraction of the respect that she has lost.
* [[Creator/SeltzerAndFriedberg Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedberg]]
started to go south, off as simply writing parodies like the polarizing ''Film/SpyHard'' and ''fast''. ''The Pick-Up Artist'' and ''Fresh Horses'' were both critical and box office failures, and when Ringwald tried to do damage control by [[OscarBait aiming for the Oscar]] with the teen pregnancy film ''Film/ForKeeps'', the destruction of her reputation was more or less complete. She then turned down the lead roles in the hit movies ''Film/{{Ghost}}'' and ''Film/PrettyWoman'', which [[StarMakingRole catapulted]] Creator/DemiMoore (a fellow Brat Packer) and Creator/JuliaRoberts onto the A-list. Critics and fans turned against her in droves, with producer Jeffrey Katzenberg infamously saying he "wouldn't know (her) if she sat on his face." By the time the disastrous ''Betsy's Wedding'' came out, Ringwald's career was already over. Adding insult to injury, Ringwald began to receive scathing criticism for her acting: ironically, the very thing that got her noticed in the first place.''Film/ScaryMovie''. Fed up with being unable to find directors for their future work, the duo decided to write, produce, and direct their own movies. While these films got trashed by critics, most of them did decently at the box office.\\



While ''The Breakfast Club'' still stands as a classic on its own merits, it's now regarded as more of an ensemble piece than anything, and her performance is often seen as one of the few weaker elements of the movie. ''Sixteen Candles'' and ''Pretty in Pink'', meanwhile, are remembered primarily as [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece '80s time-capsule pieces]] rife with questionable messages. Ringwald's characters, once seen as progressive for the time, are now viewed as {{wangst}}y, [[ItsAllAboutMe egotistical]] {{Jerkass}}es. At best, she's considered a OneHitWonder for ''The Breakfast Club'' who was only good in her collaborations with John Hughes, and at worst, she's the personification of everything that was wrong with the {{Teen Idol}}s of TheEighties. [[FleetingDemographic Many former fans that idolized her in their youth have outgrown her]], and will [[OldShame vehemently refuse to admit she was even that good to begin with]]. One sign of this hatedom was the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS5E18MeetTheQuagmires Meet the Quagmires]]", where Peter [[EveryoneHasStandards reacts in disgust]] after he finds out he's married Ringwald in another timeline.\\

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While However, this was not the case with 2008's ''Disaster Movie'', which more than lived up to its title. ''Disaster'' zoomed to the top of the [=IMDb=]'s Bottom 100 upon release, landed a 1% on Rotten Tomatoes and bombed at the box office. After 2010's ''Film/VampiresSuck'', Seltzer and Friedberg lost major studio backing and went indie. The bottom completely fell out when their first two indie projects, ''The Breakfast Club'' Starving Games'' and ''Best Night Ever'', both got a rare [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating 0%]] on Rotten Tomatoes (and both had horrible box office returns, to the point where the latter's budget has apparently not been made known to the public). Their trend of utter failure has only continued with ''Superfast!'' [[EpicFail only making a]] ''[[EpicFail twentieth]]'' [[EpicFail of its budget in box office profits]]. They're still stands as a classic on its own merits, it's now regarded as more of an ensemble piece than anything, busy making movies, but the future isn't looking very bright for them, and her performance is often seen as one of the few weaker elements of the movie. ''Sixteen Candles'' and ''Pretty in Pink'', meanwhile, are remembered primarily as [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece '80s time-capsule pieces]] rife with questionable messages. Ringwald's characters, once seen as progressive for the time, are now viewed as {{wangst}}y, [[ItsAllAboutMe egotistical]] {{Jerkass}}es. At best, she's considered a OneHitWonder for ''The Breakfast Club'' who was only good in her collaborations with John Hughes, and at worst, she's the personification of everything that was wrong with the {{Teen Idol}}s of TheEighties. [[FleetingDemographic Many former fans that idolized her in their youth when you have outgrown her]], and will [[OldShame vehemently refuse to admit she was even that good to begin with]]. One sign of this hatedom was the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS5E18MeetTheQuagmires Meet the Quagmires]]", where Peter [[EveryoneHasStandards reacts in disgust]] after he finds out fellow bad parodist Marlon Wayans announcing he's married Ringwald in another timeline.done with parody movies after ''his'' latest failure with critics, that's saying something.\\



Today, Ringwald, once a sensation, is now seen as [[AnyoneRememberPogs an '80s punchline]]. She mostly acts in smaller roles on television and DirectToVideo movies for [[MoneyDearBoy a quick paycheck]], such as the protagonist's mother on ''Series/TheSecretLifeOfTheAmericanTeenager'', and Aunt Bailey in the notorious BoxOfficeBomb ''Film/JemAndTheHolograms''. Neither of these roles particularly won any fans back and arguably lent further credence to the already vicious backlash. Nowadays (as of 2017) she can be seen on ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'' as Franchise/{{Archie|Comics}}'s mother Mary; the show was a hit right out of the gate and was renewed for a second season... [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg but Ringwald doesn't seem to be included in the hype]]. At this point, it will take a miracle for her to ever regain a fraction of the respect that she has lost.
* [[Creator/SeltzerAndFriedberg Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedberg]] started off as simply writing parodies like the polarizing ''Film/SpyHard'' and the first ''Film/ScaryMovie''. Fed up with being unable to find directors for their future work, the duo decided to write, produce, and direct their own movies. While these films got trashed by critics, most of them did decently at the box office.\\
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However, this was not the case with 2008's ''Disaster Movie'', which more than lived up to its title. ''Disaster'' zoomed to the top of the [=IMDb=]'s Bottom 100 upon release, landed a 1% on Rotten Tomatoes and bombed at the box office. After 2010's ''Film/VampiresSuck'', Seltzer and Friedberg lost major studio backing and went indie. The bottom completely fell out when their first two indie projects, ''The Starving Games'' and ''Best Night Ever'', both got a rare [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating 0%]] on Rotten Tomatoes (and both had horrible box office returns, to the point where the latter's budget has apparently not been made known to the public). Their trend of utter failure has only continued with ''Superfast!'' [[EpicFail only making a]] ''[[EpicFail twentieth]]'' [[EpicFail of its budget in box office profits]]. They're still busy making movies, but the future isn't looking very bright for them, and when you have fellow bad parodist Marlon Wayans announcing he's done with parody movies after ''his'' latest failure with critics, that's saying something.\\
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* The 2005 adaptation of ''Film/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory'' was a huge success that summer, bringing Creator/TimBurton and Creator/JohnnyDepp together for the first time since 1999 and becoming their highest-grossing collaboration up to that point. It was warmly received by critics and set the stage for the enormously successful ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' five years later.\\
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However, back in 1971, a different adaptation of the Creator/RoaldDahl book was released[[note]]This version made far less money, but it also ''cost'' far less money to make; on a percentage basis, the profitabilility of the two films was roughly comparable, at $4m on a $3m budget vs. $206m on a $150m budget[[/note]], titled ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory''. While this would normally not be an issue for a re-adaptation of a book, by the time ''Charlie'' came out, ''Willy Wonka'' [[VindicatedByHistory had become a near-universally beloved family movie]], with now-iconic musical numbers and a classic performance from Creator/GeneWilder; this version [[AdaptationDisplacement eclipsed the source novel in the public consciousness]] and became the source of [[CharlieAndTheChocolateParody numerous pop culture spoofs]]. Thus, there were many viewers that regarded the 2005 film as an insult to the original rather than a faithful adaptation of Dahl's book. In ''Willy Wonka''[='=]s colossal shadow, the newer film's backlash grew immensely, with chief box office rival ''Film/WeddingCrashers'' ultimately holding up much better over time (it edged out ''Charlie''[='=]s final gross in North America), inspiring [[Music/{{Maroon5}} music videos]] a decade after the fact.\\
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Today, while ''Willy Wonka'' is still the timeless classic it has been for over 25 years, ''Charlie'' is hardly ever acknowledged in pop culture unless it is to be unfavorably compared to its 1971 counterpart (a possible exception being the fact that it was the StarMakingRole of Creator/AnnaSophiaRobb, whose more sympathetic take on Violet is probably more popular that the literary or '71 versions; the 2005 Mike also generally has a bigger fanbase than the '71 one). The film is today seen as the beginning of Burton's DorkAge, Depp's Wonka is regarded as one of his all-time worst performances, and "Wonka's Welcome Song" has become one of the most hated ear-worms in film history. The consensus seems to be that aside from the modern-day visual effects and its effort to be TruerToTheText, there's nothing that ''Charlie'' does better than ''Willy Wonka''; the latter strength is undercut by an AdaptationExpansion {{Backstory}} for Mr. Wonka that results in a severe AdaptationPersonalityChange, a NotHisSled ending[[note]]which happened mainly because Roald Dahl himself left it in his will that the book's sequel can never be made into a film; Burton changed the ending to remove the SequelHook[[/note]] and a narrative that didn't flow as well with the focus being taken off Charlie. If Depp's domestic abuse scandal in May 2016 wasn't enough to kill the film's reputation, then it must have been Gene Wilder's death in August that year, which [[DeadArtistsAreBetter firmly solidified the 1971 film]] as the definitive adaptation of the book.
18th Jun '17 3:42:43 PM HighCrate
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* The 2005 adaptation of ''Film/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory'' was a huge success that summer, bringing Creator/TimBurton and Creator/JohnnyDepp together for the first time since 1999 and becoming their highest-grossing collaboration up to that point. It was warmly received by critics and set the stage for the enormously successful ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' five years later.\\
\\
However, back in 1971, a different adaptation of the Creator/RoaldDahl book was released[[note]]This version made far less money, but it also ''cost'' far less money to make; on a percentage basis, the profitabilility of the two films was roughly comparable, at $4m on a $3m budget vs. $206m on a $150m budget[[/note]], titled ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory''. While this would normally not be an issue for a re-adaptation of a book, by the time ''Charlie'' came out, ''Willy Wonka'' [[VindicatedByHistory had become a near-universally beloved family movie]], with now-iconic musical numbers and a classic performance from Creator/GeneWilder; this version [[AdaptationDisplacement eclipsed the source novel in the public consciousness]] and became the source of [[CharlieAndTheChocolateParody numerous pop culture spoofs]]. Thus, there were many viewers that regarded the 2005 film as an insult to the original rather than a faithful adaptation of Dahl's book. In ''Willy Wonka''[='=]s colossal shadow, the newer film's backlash grew immensely, with chief box office rival ''Film/WeddingCrashers'' ultimately holding up much better over time (it edged out ''Charlie''[='=]s final gross in North America), inspiring [[Music/{{Maroon5}} music videos]] a decade after the fact.\\
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Today, while ''Willy Wonka'' is still the timeless classic it has been for over 25 years, ''Charlie'' is hardly ever acknowledged in pop culture unless it is to be unfavorably compared to its 1971 counterpart (a possible exception being the fact that it was the StarMakingRole of Creator/AnnaSophiaRobb, whose more sympathetic take on Violet is probably more popular that the literary or '71 versions; the 2005 Mike also generally has a bigger fanbase than the '71 one). The film is today seen as the beginning of Burton's DorkAge, Depp's Wonka is regarded as one of his all-time worst performances, and "Wonka's Welcome Song" has become one of the most hated ear-worms in film history. The consensus seems to be that aside from the modern-day visual effects and its effort to be TruerToTheText, there's nothing that ''Charlie'' does better than ''Willy Wonka''; the latter strength is undercut by an AdaptationExpansion {{Backstory}} for Mr. Wonka that results in a severe AdaptationPersonalityChange, a NotHisSled ending[[note]]which happened mainly because Roald Dahl himself left it in his will that the book's sequel can never be made into a film; Burton changed the ending to remove the SequelHook[[/note]] and a narrative that didn't flow as well with the focus being taken off Charlie. If Depp's domestic abuse scandal in May 2016 wasn't enough to kill the film's reputation, then it must have been Gene Wilder's death in August that year, which [[DeadArtistsAreBetter firmly solidified the 1971 film]] as the definitive adaptation of the book.
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* {{Public Service Announcement}}s that take the form of surreal skits, musical numbers, or ironic drama. Typically, the idea was to get the point across without heavy handed preaching or emotional manipulation. Many of them remain memorable due to their NarmCharm. Today, [=PSAs=] are more likely to be a celebrity, a famous pundit, or increasingly an ordinary non-celebrity person simply addressing the audience in a serious matter. They want to make sure the message gets across without the audience being distracted by the messenger.
** In the latter half of the 2010s the surreal skit is back in the form of "The Real Cost" [=PSAs=] for "The Truth", an anti-tobacco campaign that shows young people attempting to purchase cigarettes forced to "pay" for them by ''peeling off their skin'' or ''using pliers to remove their own teeth''.
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** In the latter half of the 2010s the surreal skit is back in the form of "The Real Cost" PSAs for "The Truth", an anti-tobacco campaign that shows young people attempting to purchase cigarettes forced to "pay" for them by ''peeling off their skin'' or ''using pliers to remove their own teeth''.

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** In the latter half of the 2010s the surreal skit is back in the form of "The Real Cost" PSAs [=PSAs=] for "The Truth", an anti-tobacco campaign that shows young people attempting to purchase cigarettes forced to "pay" for them by ''peeling off their skin'' or ''using pliers to remove their own teeth''.
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** In the latter half of the 2010s the surreal skit is back in the form of "The Real Cost" PSAs for "The Truth", an anti-tobacco campaign that shows young people attempting to purchase cigarettes forced to "pay" for them by ''peeling off their skin'' or ''using pliers to remove their own teeth''.
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However, back in 1971, a different adaptation of the Creator/RoaldDahl book was released, titled ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory''. While this would normally not be an issue for a re-adaptation of a book, by the time ''Charlie'' came out, ''Willy Wonka'' [[VindicatedByHistory had become a near-universally beloved family movie]], with now-iconic musical numbers and a classic performance from Creator/GeneWilder; this version [[AdaptationDisplacement eclipsed the source novel in the public consciousness]] and became the source of [[CharlieAndTheChocolateParody numerous pop culture spoofs]]. Thus, there were many viewers that regarded the 2005 film as an insult to the original rather than a faithful adaptation of Dahl's book. In ''Willy Wonka''[='=]s colossal shadow, the newer film's backlash grew immensely, with chief box office rival ''Film/WeddingCrashers'' ultimately holding up much better over time (it edged out ''Charlie''[='=]s final gross in North America), inspiring [[Music/{{Maroon5}} music videos]] a decade after the fact.\\

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However, back in 1971, a different adaptation of the Creator/RoaldDahl book was released, released[[note]]This version made far less money, but it also ''cost'' far less money to make; on a percentage basis, the profitabilility of the two films was roughly comparable, at $4m on a $3m budget vs. $206m on a $150m budget[[/note]], titled ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory''. While this would normally not be an issue for a re-adaptation of a book, by the time ''Charlie'' came out, ''Willy Wonka'' [[VindicatedByHistory had become a near-universally beloved family movie]], with now-iconic musical numbers and a classic performance from Creator/GeneWilder; this version [[AdaptationDisplacement eclipsed the source novel in the public consciousness]] and became the source of [[CharlieAndTheChocolateParody numerous pop culture spoofs]]. Thus, there were many viewers that regarded the 2005 film as an insult to the original rather than a faithful adaptation of Dahl's book. In ''Willy Wonka''[='=]s colossal shadow, the newer film's backlash grew immensely, with chief box office rival ''Film/WeddingCrashers'' ultimately holding up much better over time (it edged out ''Charlie''[='=]s final gross in North America), inspiring [[Music/{{Maroon5}} music videos]] a decade after the fact.\\
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