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31st May '16 4:59:24 AM Doug86
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** Also, Kemmler. To elaborate, Heinrich Kemmler was a necromancer of near-divine power and possibly more evil than Satan (WorldWarOne is was only one of the atrocities he instigated, and implied not to be one of the worst ones). The White Council killed him six times, and confirmed it, boot on body, every time. None of this was more than a minor inconvenience. However, the seventh time stuck, and Heinrich Kemmler is, per WordOfGod, finally and irrevocably dead.

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** Also, Kemmler. To elaborate, Heinrich Kemmler was a necromancer of near-divine power and possibly more evil than Satan (WorldWarOne (UsefulNotes/WorldWarI is was only one of the atrocities he instigated, and implied not to be one of the worst ones). The White Council killed him six times, and confirmed it, boot on body, every time. None of this was more than a minor inconvenience. However, the seventh time stuck, and Heinrich Kemmler is, per WordOfGod, finally and irrevocably dead.
25th May '16 2:53:15 PM nighttrainfm
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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' there are a few ways to bring someone back from the dead (none of them much fun) but it looks like anything shot with the Colt is staying down. Except for Lucifer. And although the Colt isn't used on them, the Horsemen of the Apocalypse are apparently immortal--{{Death}} in particular is incapable of being killed or incapacitated by absolutely anything under the sun.
** Killing a ghost is basically killing an already-dead person. As is killing a monster in Purgatory, the monster afterlife realm.

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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' there ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'':
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are a few ways to bring someone back from the dead (none of them much fun) but it looks like anything shot with the Colt is staying down. Except for Lucifer. And although the Colt isn't used on them, the Horsemen of the Apocalypse are apparently immortal--{{Death}} in particular is incapable of being killed or incapacitated by absolutely anything under the sun.
** Killing a ghost is basically killing an already-dead person. As is killing a monster in Purgatory, the monster afterlife realm. Castiel openly wonders what happens to them when you do that.
18th May '16 11:58:55 PM BobRiddle
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* ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda3'': [[spoiler:Kai is already a spirit, a fact that makes him immune to being directly affected by the Wuxi Finger Hold. However, after Po gets supercharged by his friends and family giving him their chi, he destroys Kai completely.]]
4th May '16 12:14:32 PM lalalei2001
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* ''Manga/FairyTail'': How does being broken up at the atomic level and shot into the sky sound? And yet, [[spoiler:Jellal got better...]]

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* ''Manga/FairyTail'': How does being broken up at the atomic level and shot into the sky sound? And yet, [[spoiler:Jellal Jellal got better...]]better...
* By the end of ''Anime/YuGiOhTheDarkSideOfDimensions'', Atem has not only really departed to the afterlife, but the Millennium Puzzle itself goes to the afterlife with him.
29th Apr '16 12:09:35 PM Jeduthun
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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information-theoretic_death Information-theoretic death]], defined loosely as "so dead that not even hypothetical future technology can bring you back". This is as opposed to clinical death, which is defined as a lack of breathing or heartbeat, and can and has been reversed. Which brings an interesting question barring aside belief in souls: if one we were able to reverse even [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_death brain death]] and/or bring back people who were [[HumanPopsicle frozen]] waiting for that future technology that revived them, would that person be the same one who died or would he/she be a new one with the memories, etc. of the deceased self?

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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information-theoretic_death Information-theoretic death]], defined loosely as "so dead that not even hypothetical future technology can bring you back". This is as opposed to clinical death, which is defined as a lack of breathing or heartbeat, and can and has been reversed. Which brings an interesting question barring aside belief in souls: if one we were able to reverse even [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_death brain death]] and/or bring back people who were [[HumanPopsicle frozen]] waiting for that future technology that revived them, [[TheseusShipParadox would that person be the same one who died died]] or would he/she be a new one with the memories, etc. of the deceased self?



* AntiMatter. Should it come into contact with its regular conterpart, both will be rendered annihilated, outright violating the law of conservation of mass.[[note]]But not violating the law of conservation of mass/energy you see, E=mc
means that the mass is simply converted into energy, or in layman's terms: Kaboom[[/note]] Which means both will cease to exist.

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* AntiMatter. Should it come into contact with its regular conterpart, both will be rendered annihilated, outright violating the law of conservation of mass.[[note]]But not violating the law of conservation of mass/energy you see, E=mc
E=mc^2 means that the mass is simply converted into energy, or in layman's terms: Kaboom[[/note]] Which means both will cease to exist.
29th Apr '16 3:07:44 AM Vorpale
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* In ''Videogame/{{Iji}}'', former Tasen leader [[BadAss Hel]] [[ActionGirl Sarie]] was ''completely disintegrated'', [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill along with her whole spaceship]], when the latter was hit by a [[spoiler: Komato]] [[WaveMotionGun Phantom Hammer]]. [[spoiler: If you let [[FinalBoss General Tor]] charge his weapons three times during the final fight against him and fail to dodge, it ''will'' happen to [[PlayerCharacter Iji]] as well.]]
25th Apr '16 12:06:01 AM Divra
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* Played straight in a slightly weird way in the third ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' book, in which an evil (and apparently quite dead) sorcerer's nasty leftover rage manifests as a ghost that wreaks havoc on the folks he blames for his defeat, and anyone close to them. ** This is further explored in ''Ghost Story''. Ghosts are spiritual copies of the deceased, formed and powered by their memories. A sufficiently powerful ghost can use memories to augment their abilities or manifest into a physical form. This is essentially CastFromHitPoints, however, and a ghost who uses up too much of their memories can become a [[FateWorseThanDeath Wraith]]--a mindless being that feeds on other ghosts' memories- or cease to exist entirely.
** Also, Kemmler.

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* Played straight in a slightly weird way in the third ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' book, in which an evil (and apparently quite dead) sorcerer's nasty leftover rage manifests as a ghost that wreaks havoc on the folks he blames for his defeat, and anyone close to them.
** This is further explored in ''Ghost Story''. Ghosts are spiritual copies of the deceased, formed and powered by their memories. A sufficiently powerful ghost can use memories to augment their abilities or manifest into a physical form. This is essentially CastFromHitPoints, however, and a ghost who uses up too much of their memories can become a [[FateWorseThanDeath Wraith]]--a mindless being that feeds on other ghosts' memories- or cease to exist entirely.
** Also, Kemmler. To elaborate, Heinrich Kemmler was a necromancer of near-divine power and possibly more evil than Satan (WorldWarOne is was only one of the atrocities he instigated, and implied not to be one of the worst ones). The White Council killed him six times, and confirmed it, boot on body, every time. None of this was more than a minor inconvenience. However, the seventh time stuck, and Heinrich Kemmler is, per WordOfGod, finally and irrevocably dead.
14th Apr '16 11:41:59 AM Jake
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* The world of ''Literature/TheVorkosiganSaga'' has [[HumanPopsicle cryopreservation]] and other medical technology good enough that if a field medic can get there in time then it's possible to survive almost anything except [[RemovingTheHeadOrDestroyingTheBrain catastrophic brain injuries]]. ''Possible'', not guaranteed, because there's several ways the process can go wrong if performed in haste.
6th Apr '16 2:47:34 PM YTDN
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** Demons will simply respawn back in the Nether if killed in the physical world, they have to be killed in the Nether itself to end them personally.
5th Apr '16 2:56:11 AM Vir
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** Another way to terminate a Transformer with extreme prejudice? ''Rip out its spine'' and use the barely-recognizable carcass to whack another enemy over the head. That's the aforementioned kitty's fate in the Film/Transformers series. And in the movieverse, DeathIsCheap is averted; so far, everyone who looked dead ''was'' dead if you didn't apply Allspark energy. But no, Ravage lives on in the comics (though his death and mysterious return were acknowledged, and Soundwave can't sense him anymore, meaning it's less UnexplainedRecovery and more "[=someone/something=] brought him back but ''not'' as he was before.") But in all these cases, the original writer wanted the characters capital-D Dead, took steps to show us that yes, this is death-death and not "Waspinator kablooification of the week..." and underestimated the ability of writers to follow to ''easily'' think of a way around it. The FirstLawOfResurrection will not be denied.

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** Another way to terminate a Transformer with extreme prejudice? ''Rip out its spine'' and use the barely-recognizable carcass to whack another enemy over the head. That's the aforementioned kitty's fate in the Film/Transformers series.[[Film/{{Transformers}} live-action film series]]. And in the movieverse, DeathIsCheap is averted; so far, everyone who looked dead ''was'' dead if you didn't apply Allspark energy. But no, Ravage lives on in the comics (though his death and mysterious return were acknowledged, and Soundwave can't sense him anymore, meaning it's less UnexplainedRecovery and more "[=someone/something=] brought him back but ''not'' as he was before.") But in all these cases, the original writer wanted the characters capital-D Dead, took steps to show us that yes, this is death-death and not "Waspinator kablooification of the week..." and underestimated the ability of writers to follow to ''easily'' think of a way around it. The FirstLawOfResurrection will not be denied.
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