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8th Aug '17 11:39:48 AM LaptopGuy
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* After a string of flops in the 80s, Creator/GeneWilder had retired from acting, with the public mostly remembering him for playing the title role in the classic 1971 movie musical ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'', based on Creator/RoaldDahl's classic novel ''Literature/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory''. His death in August 2016 not only helped sustain ''Wonka'''s great legacy, but also raised the profile of his other films such as ''Film/TheProducers'', ''Film/BlazingSaddles'', and ''Film/YoungFrankenstein'' and everyone began citing him as one of the greatest comedic actors of all time. On a related note, while Creator/TimBurton's [[Film/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory 2005 film version of]] ''[[Film/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory Charlie]]'', starring Creator/JohnnyDepp, had faced intense HypeBacklash for over a decade for what was being increasingly seen as a butchered remake of the original film as opposed to a TruerToTheText adaptation of of Dahl's original book, Wilder's death firmly solidified the '71 film as the definitive adaptation of the book and sent the '05 film into pure DeaderThanDisco territory.

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* After a string of flops in the 80s, Creator/GeneWilder had retired from acting, with the public mostly remembering him for playing the title role in the classic 1971 movie musical ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'', based on Creator/RoaldDahl's classic novel ''Literature/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory''. His death in August 2016 not only helped sustain ''Wonka'''s great legacy, but also raised the profile of his other films such as ''Film/TheProducers'', ''Film/BlazingSaddles'', and ''Film/YoungFrankenstein'' and everyone began citing him as one of the greatest comedic actors of all time. On a related note, while Creator/TimBurton's [[Film/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory 2005 film version of]] ''[[Film/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory Charlie]]'', starring Creator/JohnnyDepp, Creator/JohnnyDepp as Wonka, had faced intense HypeBacklash for over a decade for what was being increasingly seen as a butchered remake of the original film as opposed to a TruerToTheText adaptation of of Dahl's original book, Wilder's death firmly solidified the '71 film as the definitive adaptation of the book and sent the '05 film into pure DeaderThanDisco territory.



* Creator/CarrieFisher was very well known for playing Princess Leia in the ''Film/StarWars'' films, but she had no real profile beyond ''Star Wars'' and wasn't nearly as iconic as her co-star Creator/HarrisonFord. Her shocking death at the end of 2016, capping off a year of surprisingly high number of high-profile celebrity deaths, truly made the world fall in love with her all over again. On a related note, Creator/DebbieReynolds, Fisher's mother, died a day after her daughter. Reynolds was a star from the '50s who was relatively obscure at the time of her death, but the fact that she died just ''one day'' after Fisher gave her passing a lot more attention than it would have gotten otherwise.

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* Creator/CarrieFisher was very well known for playing Princess Leia in the ''Film/StarWars'' films, but she had no real profile beyond ''Star Wars'' and wasn't nearly as iconic as her co-star Creator/HarrisonFord. Her shocking death at the end of 2016, capping off a year of surprisingly high number of high-profile celebrity deaths, truly made the world fall in love with her all over again.again, and Princess Leia was appropriated into a feminist symbol at the Women's March a month later. On a related note, Creator/DebbieReynolds, Fisher's mother, died a day after her daughter. Reynolds was a star from the '50s who was relatively obscure at the time of her death, but the fact that she died just ''one day'' after Fisher gave her passing a lot more attention than it would have gotten otherwise.



* Music/LinkinPark, already often mocked for being a Music/NuMetal band early on in their career, was suffering major critical and fan backlash after their new pop sound on their album One More Light, and lead singer Chester Bennington for his defence of the album and angry retorts at fans. His suicide in July 2017, just two months after his close friend Chris Cornell's, led to vindication of the new album and former fans reevaluating the band as a whole

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* Music/{{Soundgarden}} were very popular in the '90s, but they were never given the same recognition as Nirvana. Things changed with Chris Cornell's death and their reputation greatly improved.
* Music/LinkinPark, already often mocked for being a Music/NuMetal band early on in their career, was suffering major critical and fan backlash after their new pop sound on their album One More Light, and lead singer Chester Bennington for his defence of the album and angry retorts at fans. His suicide in July 2017, just two months after his close friend Chris Cornell's, Cornell's (on the latter's birthday), led to vindication of the new album and former fans reevaluating the band as a wholewhole.
5th Aug '17 7:36:43 AM SeptimusHeap
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* In the same vein as Ledger's death, Creator/ChristopherReeve's paralysis later in life made him a living martyr and ensured his ''Film/{{Superman}}'' movies ([[FirstInstallmentWins well, the first two]]) would be considered untouchable and quintessential, though Superman and his world from the Creator/DCComics [[ComicBook/PostCrisis have long]] [[UsefulNotes/TheModernAgeOfComicBooks evolved past]] their depiction in the films. Which made it frustrating for modern comics fans when the first Superman film in decades was a [[SupermanReturns slavish superhomage]] to a retro version instead of depicting the contemporary one they're used to. [[Film/ManOfSteel That changed with the reboot,]] [[UnpleasableFanbase not that that automatically made it beloved.]]

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* In the same vein as Ledger's death, Creator/ChristopherReeve's paralysis later in life made him a living martyr and ensured his ''Film/{{Superman}}'' movies ([[FirstInstallmentWins well, the first two]]) would be considered untouchable and quintessential, though Superman and his world from the Creator/DCComics [[ComicBook/PostCrisis have long]] [[UsefulNotes/TheModernAgeOfComicBooks evolved past]] their depiction in the films. Which made it frustrating for modern comics fans when the first Superman film in decades was a [[SupermanReturns [[Film/SupermanReturns slavish superhomage]] to a retro version instead of depicting the contemporary one they're used to. [[Film/ManOfSteel That changed with the reboot,]] [[UnpleasableFanbase not that that automatically made it beloved.]]
4th Aug '17 5:54:38 PM DrFraud
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11126195/6/No-Competition No Competition]]'' Ally consoles an eight-year-old Harry for his poor grade in art.
-->'''Ally:''' No artist is truly famous unless they are dead, so it scarcely matters while you're alive.
4th Aug '17 12:34:06 PM SpinAttaxx
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* Before news of his passing broke in 2010, few ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' fans knew who Creator/TakeshiShudo was. Once it did, though, he became more appreciated for his work as the head writer of the series up until partway through Johto, as well as writing the first three movies. Having written many fan-favorite episodes, his departure is now often considered to be the point where the series [[SeasonalRot dropped in quality]] and never quite recovered.
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24th Jul '17 3:48:11 AM Wyvernil
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In theory, the idea that dead artists are better may result from them dying at their peak: they don't have the time to taint their earlier successes with a DorkAge of divisive later works that fail to live up to the masterpieces (whether through being [[GenreShift too different]] or StrictlyFormula more of the same]]).

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In theory, the idea that dead artists are better may result from them dying at their peak: they don't have the time to taint their earlier successes with a DorkAge of divisive later works that fail to live up to the masterpieces (whether through being [[GenreShift too different]] or StrictlyFormula [[StrictlyFormula more of the same]]).
24th Jul '17 3:47:51 AM Wyvernil
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The vast majority of shows that mention paintings will mention this trope at one point: Artists are never recognized until after they're dead. Though this [[TruthInTelevision has happened in many cases]], there have also been been a great deal of painters, modern and classic, that have been recognized while still alive. Nor has the deceased been recognized immediately after his corpse hits the ground, as it seems to happen when this trope is in effect. (Historically, this has affected composers and writers far less than people assume. Shakespeare was successful during his lifetime, so was Beethoven. It stands to reason - only a few people would continue doing something for a long time without some kind of success. This is glaringly obvious for composers - of the top tier, only Bach and Tchaikovsky comes even remotely close to this trope, and they were still far from starving during their lifetimes .)

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The vast majority of shows that mention paintings will mention this trope at one point: Artists are never recognized until after they're dead. Though this [[TruthInTelevision has happened in many cases]], there have also been been a great deal of painters, modern and classic, that have been recognized while still alive. Nor has the deceased been recognized immediately after his corpse hits the ground, as it seems to happen when this trope is in effect. (Historically, this has affected composers and writers far less than people assume. Shakespeare was successful during his lifetime, so was Beethoven. It stands to reason - only a few people would continue doing something for a long time without some kind of success. This is glaringly obvious for composers - of the top tier, only Bach and Tchaikovsky comes even remotely close to this trope, and they were still far from starving during their lifetimes .)
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In theory, the idea that dead artists are better may result from them dying at their peak: they don't have the time to taint their earlier successes with a DorkAge of divisive later works that fail to live up to the masterpieces (whether through being [[GenreShift too different]] or StrictlyFormula more of the same]]).
21st Jul '17 6:02:31 AM MylesHowlett
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* Music/LinkinPark, already often mocked for being a Music/NuMetal band early on in their career, was suffering major critical and fan backlash after their new pop sound on their album One More Light, and lead singer Chester Bennington for his defence of the album and angry retorts at fans. His suicide in July 2017, just two months after his close friend Chris Cornell's, led to vindication of the new album and former fans reevaluating the band as a whole
4th Jul '17 11:15:13 PM DebbieOppenheimer
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* Music/{{Aaliyah}} was a rising star in the R&B genre and it was predicted she would become even bigger after ''Film/RomeoMustDie'' showed her crossing into films. But she had a growing HypeBacklash that said she owed far more to her beauty and production thanks to Timbaland. After her sudden death at the age of 22, she was glorified as "the best there ever was" - although she did inspire several artists like Music/DestinysChild, {{Music/Ciara}}, Zendaya Coleman and many others. She's now remembered as a great singer who died too soon.

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* Music/{{Aaliyah}} was a rising star in the R&B genre and it was predicted she would become even bigger after ''Film/RomeoMustDie'' showed her crossing into films. But she had a growing HypeBacklash that said she owed far more to her beauty and production thanks to Timbaland. After Since her sudden death at the age of 22, she was glorified as "the best there ever was" - although she did inspire several artists like Music/DestinysChild, {{Music/Ciara}}, Zendaya Coleman and many others. She's now 22 in a plane crash in 2001, she's been remembered as a great singer who died too soon.
2nd Jul '17 8:32:04 PM BlackSunNocturne
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* In the same vein as Ledger's death, Christopher Reeve's paralysis later in life made him a living martyr and ensured his ''Film/{{Superman}}'' movies ([[FirstInstallmentWins well, the first two]]) would be considered untouchable and quintessential, though Superman and his world from the Creator/DCComics [[ComicBook/PostCrisis have long]] [[UsefulNotes/TheModernAgeOfComicBooks evolved past]] their depiction in the films. Which made it frustrating for modern comics fans when the first Superman film in decades was a [[SupermanReturns slavish superhomage]] to a retro version instead of depicting the contemporary one they're used to. [[Film/ManOfSteel That changed with the reboot,]] [[UnpleasableFanbase not that that automatically made it beloved.]]

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* In the same vein as Ledger's death, Christopher Reeve's Creator/ChristopherReeve's paralysis later in life made him a living martyr and ensured his ''Film/{{Superman}}'' movies ([[FirstInstallmentWins well, the first two]]) would be considered untouchable and quintessential, though Superman and his world from the Creator/DCComics [[ComicBook/PostCrisis have long]] [[UsefulNotes/TheModernAgeOfComicBooks evolved past]] their depiction in the films. Which made it frustrating for modern comics fans when the first Superman film in decades was a [[SupermanReturns slavish superhomage]] to a retro version instead of depicting the contemporary one they're used to. [[Film/ManOfSteel That changed with the reboot,]] [[UnpleasableFanbase not that that automatically made it beloved.]]
2nd Jul '17 8:30:01 PM BlackSunNocturne
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* Phil Hartman ran away with the trope. Although he did not win an Emmy posthumously for Outstanding Supporting Actor for ''Series/NewsRadio'' (causing his co-star Dave Foley to humorously quip, "What does a guy have to do to win an Emmy around here?"), the outpour of respect for him since his death has been immense. Many have since cited him as the "glue" that kept ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' together during its second creative peak in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and while he rarely got to be known as a superstar like his fellow cast members (Dana Carvey, Mike Myers, Adam Sandler, Chris Farley), he's now regarded as one of the greatest (and perhaps the most versatile) performers of the ''SNL's'' history. Additionally, he was extremely popular for his recurring work as Troy [=McClure=] and Lionel Hutz on ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', with some even stating that his death coincided with the point where [[SeasonalRot the series started to lose its luster]].

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* Phil Hartman Creator/PhilHartman ran away with the trope. Although he did not win an Emmy posthumously for Outstanding Supporting Actor for ''Series/NewsRadio'' (causing his co-star Dave Foley to humorously quip, "What does a guy have to do to win an Emmy around here?"), the outpour of respect for him since his death has been immense. Many have since cited him as the "glue" that kept ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' together during its second creative peak in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and while he rarely got to be known as a superstar like his fellow cast members (Dana Carvey, Mike Myers, Adam Sandler, Chris Farley), he's now regarded as one of the greatest (and perhaps the most versatile) performers of the ''SNL's'' history. Additionally, he was extremely popular for his recurring work as Troy [=McClure=] and Lionel Hutz on ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', with some even stating that his death coincided with the point where [[SeasonalRot the series started to lose its luster]].
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