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20th Sep '17 7:35:14 PM eroock
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->''"You can't mesmerize me. I'm British!"''
-->-- '''''Literature/AtTheEarthsCore'''''

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->''"You can't mesmerize me. I'm British!"''
-> ''"When we Greeks were building Parthenons, you barbarians were still eating acorns."'' [[note]]Original quote in Greek: [[https://www.quora.com/If-your-country-had-a-slogan-what-it-would-be/answer/Nick-Nicholas-5 Όταν εμείς οι Έλληνες χτίζαμε Παρθενώνες, εσείς οι βάρβαροι τρώγατε βελανίδια.]] [[/note]]
-->-- '''''Literature/AtTheEarthsCore'''''
[[https://el.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Νίκος_Αθανασόπουλος Nikos Athanasopoulos,]] Greek politician, hitting back at an EU investigation of corruption in the Greek Government under Belgian anti-corruption official [[http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/crooks-milk-ec-for-all-it-is-worth-1457668.html Emile Mennens]]
16th Sep '17 4:20:23 PM nombretomado
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* Canadians, on the other hand, are always quick to brag about the WarOf1812, treating it as a CurbStompBattle in Canada's favor--as exemplified in claims that Canadian forces "burned down the U.S. capital." That was actually the work of British Army regulars who'd just arrived from Europe, and it was also in retaliation for (among other things) American forces burning down ''Canada's'' own capital of York (known today as Toronto).

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* Canadians, on the other hand, are always quick to brag about the WarOf1812, UsefulNotes/WarOf1812, treating it as a CurbStompBattle in Canada's favor--as exemplified in claims that Canadian forces "burned down the U.S. capital." That was actually the work of British Army regulars who'd just arrived from Europe, and it was also in retaliation for (among other things) American forces burning down ''Canada's'' own capital of York (known today as Toronto).
6th Sep '17 2:15:11 AM PaulA
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** Although this is certainly present in many of his works, it's sometimes averted as well. As in "The Rats In The Walls", a story where an elitist anglophile discovers that his highly esteemed ancestral line is actually directly related to monstrous, cannibalistic sub-humans.

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** Although this is certainly present in many of his works, it's sometimes averted as well. As in "The Rats In The Walls", "Literature/TheRatsInTheWalls", a story where an elitist anglophile discovers that his highly esteemed ancestral line is actually directly related to monstrous, cannibalistic sub-humans.
4th Sep '17 8:33:46 PM crowmagnon
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* In ''Film/{{Unforgiven}}'', up until he runs into Little Bill, English Bob spends pretty much every minute of screen time extolling the supposed superiority of the british monarchy in the context of the recent assassination attempt on President Garfield.
16th Jul '17 12:26:31 PM Anata
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*** On ''Series/That70sShow'', Red says to ConspiracyTheorist Hyde: "Damn US Government?! Without our government, you'd be stuck in Siberia now sucking the juice out of a rotten commmie potato!"
24th Jun '17 6:44:33 AM Piterpicher
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*** ''AFishCalledWanda'' has Kevin Kline's [[JerkAss character]] randomly spouting this when annoyed. "If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking ''German!''". He says this ''right after'' claiming that Britain would be "the smallest fucking province in the Russian Empire."

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*** ''AFishCalledWanda'' ''Film/AFishCalledWanda'' has Kevin Kline's [[JerkAss character]] randomly spouting this when annoyed. "If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking ''German!''". He says this ''right after'' claiming that Britain would be "the smallest fucking province in the Russian Empire."
3rd Jun '17 12:42:51 PM LentilSandEater
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** Of course, the whole point is thoroughly [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] by some characters who are painfully aware of the CulturalPosturing of their own race - namely, Matriarch Aethyta for the Asari, and either Wrex or Eve for the Krogan. Garrus also seems highly conscious of Turian flaws, especially in the second and third games after he's become more disillusioned and cynical. He even apologizes to Tali at one point for the little bit of posturing he did toward her in the first game. Kaidan has a moment of this toward humanity, arguing that people like [[AssInAmbassador Udina]] are [[NotHelpingYourCase not helping their people's case]]. For the Salarians, Padok Wicks is very critical of his race's tendency to meddle with more primitive species, and all the trouble that's caused for the galaxy.

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** Of course, the whole point is a thoroughly [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] DiscussedTrope by some characters who are painfully aware of the CulturalPosturing of their own race - namely, Matriarch Aethyta for the Asari, and either Wrex or Eve for the Krogan. Garrus also seems highly conscious of Turian flaws, especially in the second and third games after he's become more disillusioned and cynical. He even apologizes to Tali at one point for the little bit of posturing he did toward her in the first game. Kaidan has a moment of this toward humanity, arguing that people like [[AssInAmbassador Udina]] are [[NotHelpingYourCase not helping their people's case]]. For the Salarians, Padok Wicks is very critical of his race's tendency to meddle with more primitive species, and all the trouble that's caused for the galaxy.
3rd Jun '17 10:03:47 AM nombretomado
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* Kismet and her friends in the WhateleyUniverse. Kismet is Belgian, and her group at SuperheroSchool Whateley Academy is so pro-European (Western Europe at that) and anti-American that they are known around the school as the 'Beret Mafia'.

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* Kismet and her friends in the WhateleyUniverse.Literature/WhateleyUniverse. Kismet is Belgian, and her group at SuperheroSchool Whateley Academy is so pro-European (Western Europe at that) and anti-American that they are known around the school as the 'Beret Mafia'.
30th May '17 6:27:39 PM nombretomado
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** ''TheWestWing'' is one of the rare examples of this: After trying (and failing) to get the support of Lord [[AssInAmbassador John Marbury]], the new British Ambassador to the United States, to support a new missile shield defense system that Leo is supporting, Leo takes him aside at a dinner party pretty much for the sole reason of snottily reminding him who kicked whose ass at the Battle of Yorktown in the American War of Independence.

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** ''TheWestWing'' ''Series/TheWestWing'' is one of the rare examples of this: After trying (and failing) to get the support of Lord [[AssInAmbassador John Marbury]], the new British Ambassador to the United States, to support a new missile shield defense system that Leo is supporting, Leo takes him aside at a dinner party pretty much for the sole reason of snottily reminding him who kicked whose ass at the Battle of Yorktown in the American War of Independence.
22nd May '17 7:47:30 AM BeerBaron
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* In''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series, [[OurElvesAreBetter both the High Elves and Dark Elves]] go on about their superiority at every chance they get. In addition, the Empire sometimes inspires this sort of behavior for the Cyrodiilic-dominated ''Imperial'' culture - and not always by Imperials, either.
** High elves' posturing is partly justified, as they're implied to have been the only race that ever understood what the hell the [[MadScientist dwarves]] were ever talking about. Also, they're a CrystalSpiresAndTogas race, one of whose orders of monks can vanish (possibly in the same way as the aforementioned dwarves did, accidentally) ''at will'', along with their island, and reappear when they feel the need. Finally, their pantheon is [[AGodAmI the same thing as their genealogy]]. ''Provably''. Nevertheless, they don't really need to be such dicks about it.
** In Skyrim, the High Elves have also (in the aftermath of the Oblivion Crisis) been taken over by an elf-supremacist ideology called the Thalmor, who, being ancestor-worshiping arch-nationalists from an island chain who style themselves the protectors of their neighbors (read: subjects) on the mainland... are basically [[PuttingOnTheReich Imperial Japan]]. Except they ban the worship of their opponents' first god-emperor, not the other way around.
*** It happens a lot with Imperials or Empire-loyalists towards the local Nords, who love to point out how their [[UsefulNotes/TheGloryThatWasRome glorious cosmopolitan empire]] is superior to the barbaric, frozen wilderness of Skyrim. Note that this isn't FantasticRacism because it's the Nord culture that is looked down upon, not the actual Nord race, though you'd be forgiven for pointing out that this is a distinction without a difference. Best summed up by General Tullius, the military governor in charge of bringing Skyrim back under Imperial control;

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* In''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series, ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** The
[[OurElvesAreBetter both Altmer (High Elves)]] take the High Elves and Dark Elves]] go on about their superiority at every chance they get. In addition, cake as the Empire sometimes inspires this sort of behavior for the Cyrodiilic-dominated ''Imperial'' haughtiest culture - and not always by Imperials, either.
** High elves' posturing is partly justified, as they're implied to have been the only
in Tamriel. They are a tall, golden-skinned race that ever understood what of Mer with [[WitchSpecies exceptional natural aptitude for magic]] and are responsible for much of Tamriel's art, science, philosophy, language and religion, fitting squarely within the hell the [[MadScientist dwarves]] were ever talking about. Also, they're a idea of CrystalSpiresAndTogas race, one as a race. They are the direct descendants of whose orders the Aldmer ({{Precursors}} to all modern races of monks can vanish (possibly Mer) and consider the other races of Mer as a result of "degeneration" over the ages. (And don't even bother trying to bring up the races of Men...) Their religious beliefs state that they are the true descendants of the Aedra ("Our Ancestors" in old [[ConLang Aldmeris]]), the deities who aided in the same way creation of the mortal world, known as Mundus. They believe the creation of Mundus was a cruel trick on the part of the [[GodIsDead dead creator god]], Lorkhan, which robbed their divine ancestors of their pre-creation divinity, forcing them to experience mortal suffering, loss, and death. And [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch while there are exceptions]], most Altmer are proud to bring up any of the aforementioned dwarves did, accidentally) ''at will'', along with facts whenever they get the chance. Their culture did suffer a BreakTheHaughty moment in the late 2nd Era, when [[TheEmperor Tiber Septim]] used the [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]]-constructed [[HumongousMecha Numidium]] to deal the Altmer a CurbStompBattle defeat in which their island, and reappear when they feel capital city was sacked in less than hour, forcing them to join an Empire of Men by conquest for the need. Finally, first time in their pantheon is [[AGodAmI history. When the same thing as their genealogy]]. ''Provably''. Nevertheless, they don't really need to be such dicks about it.
** In Skyrim,
Septim Dynasty ended at the High Elves have also (in the aftermath start of the Oblivion Crisis) been taken over by an elf-supremacist ideology called 4th Era, the Thalmor, who, being ancestor-worshiping arch-nationalists from Altmer rose once again under the leadership of the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName extremist Thalmor]], reforming the [[AntiHumanAlliance Aldmeri Dominion]] of old.
** The Dunmer (Dark Elves) were not far behind their Altmer cousins in terms of haughtiness at their cultural height. They were
an island chain extremely xenophobic race who style hated outlanders within their homeland of Morrowind, but had no issue with raiding Black Marsh or Elsweyr to take [[LizardFolk Argonian]] and [[CatFolk Khajiiti]] slaves. The Tribunal Temple, which by the 3rd Era had become a shining example of a CorruptChurch full of [[KnightTemplar Knights Templar]] who followed their {{Physical God}}s (the Tribunal) to a fault. Hypocrisy was rampant in their culture where, for instance, they would sic their ChurchPolice on anyone accused of practicing necromancy with orders to kill on sight, while the Dunmer themselves would summon the protectors bodies and spirits of their neighbors (read: subjects) on the mainland... are basically [[PuttingOnTheReich Imperial Japan]]. Except ancestors for protection, considering it a "holy act" when they ban do it. However, the worship events of ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', the [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion Crisis]], the [[ColonyDrop Red]] [[ChekhovsVolcano Year]], and finally the [[TheDogBitesBack Argonian Invasion]] were a major BreakTheHaughty series of events for the Dunmer. Their homeland was choked with volcanic ash and the still-habitable parts were under the control of their opponents' first god-emperor, not long-time SlaveRace, forcing the other way around.
*** It happens a lot with
Dunmer people to flee to the frozen, barren island of Solstheim and to Skyrim, where they are treated as second-class citizens (at best) by the native, [[FantasticRacism Elf-hating]] [[HornyVikings Nords]].
** The
Imperials of Cyrodiil have displayed this whenever they have been leading their various empires which have spanned most or Empire-loyalists towards all of Tamriel. As they conquer new lands, they have traditionally enforced their rather liberal Imperial values, including [[ProudMerchantRace a heavy focus on mercantilism and trade]] as well as significant religious tolerance, believing them to be superior to the local Nords, who "barbaric" cultures they are replacing and leading to plenty of CultureClash. (Given that a lot of the cultures they have replaced were rife with [[FantasticRacism racism]], classism, and every other negative "-ism" you can think of, they weren't entirely un{{justified}} in this belief.) Following the fall of the Septim Dynasty's Third Empire, as seen in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', this is happening quite a bit toward the Nords. The Imperials love to point out how their [[UsefulNotes/TheGloryThatWasRome glorious cosmopolitan empire]] is superior to the barbaric, frozen wilderness of Skyrim. Note that this isn't FantasticRacism because it's the Nord culture that is looked down upon, not the actual Nord race, though you'd be forgiven for pointing out that this is a distinction without a difference. Best summed up by General Tullius, the military governor in charge of bringing Skyrim back under Imperial control;



** Alduin and most of the Dragons often seem to invoke this towards the Dragonborn. It's shown that they view the protagonist as their equivalent of a HumanoidAbomination, repeatedly [[EvilGloating berating]] them for having the sheer audacity to take the name of "[[YouAreTheTranslatedForeignWord Dovahkiin]]" for themselves, despite the fact they are clearly ''[[NoTrueScotsman not]]'' a true member of "[[OurDragonsAreDifferent Dragonkind]]".

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** Alduin [[BeastOfTheApocalypse Alduin]] and most of the Dragons ("Dov") often seem to invoke this towards the Dragonborn. It's shown that they view the protagonist Dragonborn as their equivalent of a HumanoidAbomination, repeatedly [[EvilGloating berating]] them for having the sheer audacity to take the name of "[[YouAreTheTranslatedForeignWord Dovahkiin]]" for themselves, despite the fact they are clearly ''[[NoTrueScotsman not]]'' a true member of "[[OurDragonsAreDifferent Dragonkind]]".
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