History Main / CulturalPosturing

10th Apr '18 8:22:50 AM urutapu
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* The Vers Empire stationed on Mars in ''Anime/AldnoahZero'' holds themselves above the filthy Terrans of Earth, despite the fact that it's just an Earth colony that decided to revolt upon finding some ancient technology, the eponymous Aldnoah, in TheEighties. While it is a rather decisive advantage, said technology is Mars' only realistic advantage over Earth, considering the fact that Mars has literally no natural resources. The Emperor and nobles of Vers act as if they represent some kind of ancient noble bloodline, despite the fact that their domain is a wasteland of rust and dust and only 29 years old at the beginning of the series.

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* The In ''Anime/AldnoahZero'', the Emperor and nobles of the Vers Empire stationed on Mars in ''Anime/AldnoahZero'' holds themselves above act as if they represent some kind of ancient noble bloodline and regard the filthy Terrans of Earth, despite the fact Earth with disdain. It should be noted, however, that it's Vers is just an Earth colony that decided to revolt upon finding some ancient technology, the eponymous Aldnoah, in TheEighties. While it the Aldnoah is a rather decisive advantage, said technology is Mars' it's literally the only realistic advantage thing Vers has over Earth, considering the fact that as Mars has literally no natural resources. The Emperor and nobles of Vers act as if they represent some kind of ancient noble bloodline, despite the fact that their domain is a wasteland of rust and dust and only 29 years old at the beginning of the series.resources.
10th Feb '18 1:04:54 PM CountDorku
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** In the south, a mixture of this and House Posturing prevails. Northerners think Southerners are pampered and weak, Southerners think Northerners are crude and savage, the ironborn look down on everyone who doesn't pillage and burn for a living (bonus demerits for being literate, and especially maesters, who are well-read ''for a living''), and ''everyone'' thinks Dorne is a bit weird [[DeliberateValuesDissonance because of that whole "women being equal" thing]]. That's just the posturing based on geography; the pissing matches between individual Houses can be ''brutal'', even when they don't extend to actually drawing swords.
10th Feb '18 12:57:21 PM CountDorku
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** Garak talked a lot about how great Cardassian culture was, mostly to Bashir. Of note, Cardassia ''exiled'' Garak, [[MultipleChoicePast possibly]] because he refused to torture children to satisfy the pointless whims of a bureaucracy.
30th Jan '18 4:29:07 PM nombretomado
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Expect the alien who has the opinion that HumansAreTheRealMonsters (or humans who believe that HumanityIsSuperior) to trot out a similar argument. Compare CantArgueWithElves - that's when humans or other peoples for some reason don't mind insults at all. ScrewYouElves happens when they ''do'' mind. If this happens between nations, it's MisplacedNationalism. These four references to other tropes might be actually broader examples of this trope... what other culture do humans (as in ''you'', reader) know but their own human culture? How very meta.

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Expect the alien who has the opinion that HumansAreTheRealMonsters (or humans who believe that HumanityIsSuperior) to trot out a similar argument. Compare CantArgueWithElves - that's when humans or other peoples for some reason don't mind insults at all. ScrewYouElves happens when they ''do'' mind. If this happens between nations, it's MisplacedNationalism.UsefulNotes/MisplacedNationalism. These four references to other tropes might be actually broader examples of this trope... what other culture do humans (as in ''you'', reader) know but their own human culture? How very meta.



** Russians also have their own form of The Soviet Union Wins The War, arguing that since the Nazis suffered 80% of their losses on the Eastern Front (fighting with armies of no less than three million men at all times for a total turnover of 8 million Soviet and 4 Million German soldiers dead, whereas Britain and the USA fielded a couple of million men with losses of less than a million put together) as well as being the only ones present at the Battles of Stalingrad, Kursk, and Berlin (the biggest of the war), the Russians won the war all by themselves. Never mind the effect of Anglo-American lend-lease aid (which accounted for as much as 25% of all Soviet war-time production and staved off a Soviet famine), that in mid-1943 the Luftwaffe mysteriously vanished, that more than a third of the German army was preoccupied with the Anglo-Americans at all times, etc. [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial Also, the Soviet Union did not at all collaborate with the Nazis for their own territorial aggrandizement and absolutely did not end up fighting them due to a falling out among thieves, how dare you even suggest that]]. It might not be easily noticeable in the Anglosphere, compared to American and British attitudes, but it can and will pop up [[MisplacedNationalism anywhere World War II is discussed]].

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** Russians also have their own form of The Soviet Union Wins The War, arguing that since the Nazis suffered 80% of their losses on the Eastern Front (fighting with armies of no less than three million men at all times for a total turnover of 8 million Soviet and 4 Million German soldiers dead, whereas Britain and the USA fielded a couple of million men with losses of less than a million put together) as well as being the only ones present at the Battles of Stalingrad, Kursk, and Berlin (the biggest of the war), the Russians won the war all by themselves. Never mind the effect of Anglo-American lend-lease aid (which accounted for as much as 25% of all Soviet war-time production and staved off a Soviet famine), that in mid-1943 the Luftwaffe mysteriously vanished, that more than a third of the German army was preoccupied with the Anglo-Americans at all times, etc. [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial Also, the Soviet Union did not at all collaborate with the Nazis for their own territorial aggrandizement and absolutely did not end up fighting them due to a falling out among thieves, how dare you even suggest that]]. It might not be easily noticeable in the Anglosphere, compared to American and British attitudes, but it can and will pop up [[MisplacedNationalism [[UsefulNotes/MisplacedNationalism anywhere World War II is discussed]].



* Filipinos are known to say "Pinoy Pride" or "Proud to be Filipino" whenever a Filipino (or someone with Filipino blood) earned international recognition, particularly when that person does well in entertainment industry (e.g. Charice, Jessica Sanchez) or wins a boxing match (e.g. Manny Pacquiao). [[http://www.rappler.com/move-ph/30091-matter-national-insecurity Whenever someone criticizes anything about the Philippines]], Filipinos would [[BerserkButton react]] negatively to it. There is also a debate whether "Pinoy Pride" is a strength to encourage Filipinos that they can do anything or MisplacedNationalism.

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* Filipinos are known to say "Pinoy Pride" or "Proud to be Filipino" whenever a Filipino (or someone with Filipino blood) earned international recognition, particularly when that person does well in entertainment industry (e.g. Charice, Jessica Sanchez) or wins a boxing match (e.g. Manny Pacquiao). [[http://www.rappler.com/move-ph/30091-matter-national-insecurity Whenever someone criticizes anything about the Philippines]], Filipinos would [[BerserkButton react]] negatively to it. There is also a debate whether "Pinoy Pride" is a strength to encourage Filipinos that they can do anything or MisplacedNationalism.UsefulNotes/MisplacedNationalism.
13th Nov '17 7:39:18 PM WillBGood
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---> '''Javik''': Did you know that the salarians used to lick their eyes?
*** He even manages to do this when he's ''praising'' you. When you talk with him on the Citadel, he's approached by several aliens who overhear you mention that he's Prothean (among these is a very religious hanar, who worship the Protheans). After he gives them a pep talk, Shepard can reply to the audience asking what he's like by saying he's a good ally to have around. Javik's response:

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---> --> '''Javik''': Did you know that the salarians used to lick their eyes?
*** ** He even manages to do this when he's ''praising'' you. When you talk with him on the Citadel, he's approached by several aliens who overhear you mention that he's Prothean (among these is a very religious hanar, who worship the Protheans). After he gives them a pep talk, Shepard can reply to the audience asking what he's like by saying he's a good ally to have around. Javik's response:



*** Then sarcastically parodied in the Citadel DLC:

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*** ** Then sarcastically parodied in the Citadel DLC:



--> '''Shepard''': We will ''fight!'' We will ''sacrifice!'' And we we ''find a way!'' That is what Humans ''do!''

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--> ---> '''Shepard''': We will ''fight!'' We will ''sacrifice!'' And we we ''find a way!'' That is what Humans ''do!''
12th Nov '17 1:44:37 PM RaineyH
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** A popular and [[ActuallyPrettyFunny admittedly fairly clever]] joke between neighboring states is "If you took the northern/southern/eastern/western counties of State A and transferred them to State B, both states' average IQ would go up."
1st Nov '17 8:41:18 PM RaineyH
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* The real-life "debates" over which of the Allies "really" won World War II (see below) are referenced in Literature/NightWatch, where at one point Anton's friend [[ManChild Las]] sports a FunTshirt with a Red Army soldier fighting an American G.I. Anton's narration makes it clear which side his bread is buttered on, but it's mostly PlayedForLaughs[[note]] and it had better be, considering the GreyAndGrayMorality of the series and the global nature of the Watches' work[[/note]].
20th Sep '17 7:35:14 PM eroock
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->''"You can't mesmerize me. I'm British!"''
-->-- '''''Literature/AtTheEarthsCore'''''

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->''"You can't mesmerize me. I'm British!"''
-> ''"When we Greeks were building Parthenons, you barbarians were still eating acorns."'' [[note]]Original quote in Greek: [[https://www.quora.com/If-your-country-had-a-slogan-what-it-would-be/answer/Nick-Nicholas-5 Όταν εμείς οι Έλληνες χτίζαμε Παρθενώνες, εσείς οι βάρβαροι τρώγατε βελανίδια.]] [[/note]]
-->-- '''''Literature/AtTheEarthsCore'''''
[[https://el.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Νίκος_Αθανασόπουλος Nikos Athanasopoulos,]] Greek politician, hitting back at an EU investigation of corruption in the Greek Government under Belgian anti-corruption official [[http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/crooks-milk-ec-for-all-it-is-worth-1457668.html Emile Mennens]]
16th Sep '17 4:20:23 PM nombretomado
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* Canadians, on the other hand, are always quick to brag about the WarOf1812, treating it as a CurbStompBattle in Canada's favor--as exemplified in claims that Canadian forces "burned down the U.S. capital." That was actually the work of British Army regulars who'd just arrived from Europe, and it was also in retaliation for (among other things) American forces burning down ''Canada's'' own capital of York (known today as Toronto).

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* Canadians, on the other hand, are always quick to brag about the WarOf1812, UsefulNotes/WarOf1812, treating it as a CurbStompBattle in Canada's favor--as exemplified in claims that Canadian forces "burned down the U.S. capital." That was actually the work of British Army regulars who'd just arrived from Europe, and it was also in retaliation for (among other things) American forces burning down ''Canada's'' own capital of York (known today as Toronto).
6th Sep '17 2:15:11 AM PaulA
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** Although this is certainly present in many of his works, it's sometimes averted as well. As in "The Rats In The Walls", a story where an elitist anglophile discovers that his highly esteemed ancestral line is actually directly related to monstrous, cannibalistic sub-humans.

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** Although this is certainly present in many of his works, it's sometimes averted as well. As in "The Rats In The Walls", "Literature/TheRatsInTheWalls", a story where an elitist anglophile discovers that his highly esteemed ancestral line is actually directly related to monstrous, cannibalistic sub-humans.
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