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14th Jul '16 1:00:41 AM PaulA
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* In Creator/SergeyLukyanenko's ''Literature/SeekersOfTheSky'' duology, the setting is an AlternateReality where Jesus was killed as a baby, forcing God to come up with a new plan. This time, he gets Mary and Joseph to adopt the one baby to survive the massacre. He becomes the Redeemer (no name is ever given) with the power to put any object or living being into another dimension (apparently, Hell). The resulting religion shares much with Christianity but has differences as well. For example, there's no Devil, and to speak of him is heresy of the highest kind. Hell is a frozen wasteland (making the well-known phrase irrelevant). The symbol of the Churches (there are two with one leader) is the Holy Pillar, to which the Redeemer tied himself to before disappearing. There are bishops, monks, priests, cardinals, paladins, nuns, large cathedrals, holy wars, etc. Vatican is called Urbis for some reason. Judas was the only loyal disciple of the original twelve. Murder is not a sin unless done more than twelve times (except if involving children and elderly). Mary is hardly ever mentioned. Instead, the adopted Sister of the Redeemer is as revered as him. The Antichrist is scheduled to appear before the Second Coming of the Redeemer, except he is called the Tempter.

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* In Creator/SergeyLukyanenko's ''Literature/SeekersOfTheSky'' duology, the setting is an AlternateReality AlternateHistory where Jesus was killed as a baby, forcing God to come up with a new plan. This time, he gets Mary and Joseph to adopt the one baby to survive the massacre. He becomes the Redeemer (no name is ever given) with the power to put any object or living being into another dimension (apparently, Hell). The resulting religion shares much with Christianity but has differences as well. For example, there's no Devil, and to speak of him is heresy of the highest kind. Hell is a frozen wasteland (making the well-known phrase irrelevant). The symbol of the Churches (there are two with one leader) is the Holy Pillar, to which the Redeemer tied himself to before disappearing. There are bishops, monks, priests, cardinals, paladins, nuns, large cathedrals, holy wars, etc. Vatican is called Urbis for some reason. Judas was the only loyal disciple of the original twelve. Murder is not a sin unless done more than twelve times (except if involving children and elderly). Mary is hardly ever mentioned. Instead, mentioned; instead, the adopted Sister of the Redeemer is as revered as him. The Antichrist is scheduled to appear before the Second Coming of the Redeemer, except he is called the Tempter.
13th Jul '16 4:02:14 AM StFan
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* In every ''HarvestMoon'' game, there's "The Church", with obligatory priest-collar wearing pastor and "confession" as an occasional option. But the deity they worship is, in fact, the Harvest Goddess. The HM games are generally an intentional mash-up of Japanese culture, Western farming culture, and paganism.
** More recent games have revealed that there's a Harvest Lord as well. Also, ''HarvestMoon'': Island/Sun adds a [[{{Moe}} nun character]] into the mix of the universe's religion. In fact, the nun is coincidentally named after a [[NunsAreMikos demon hunter]].
** The original [[VideoGame/HarvestMoonOriginalSeries SNES game]] makes references to multiple gods besides the Harvest Goddess. All other games dumb it down to them only worshipping one god, with occasionally the Harvest Lord popping up.

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* In every ''HarvestMoon'' ''Franchise/HarvestMoon'' game, there's "The Church", with obligatory priest-collar wearing pastor and "confession" as an occasional option. But the deity they worship is, in fact, the Harvest Goddess. The HM games are generally an intentional mash-up of Japanese culture, Western farming culture, and paganism.
** More recent games have revealed that there's a Harvest Lord as well. Also, ''HarvestMoon'': Island/Sun ''Harvest Moon: Island/Sun'' adds a [[{{Moe}} nun character]] into the mix of the universe's religion. In fact, the nun is coincidentally named after a [[NunsAreMikos demon hunter]].
** The original [[VideoGame/HarvestMoonOriginalSeries [[VideoGame/HarvestMoon1 SNES game]] makes references to multiple gods besides the Harvest Goddess. All other games dumb it down to them only worshipping one god, with occasionally the Harvest Lord popping up.
12th Jul '16 3:03:52 PM AwSamWeston
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Compare: AnimeCatholicism, NunsAreMiko, HijackedByJesus, FauxSymbolism, InterfaithSmoothie, KingOfAllCosmos, FantasyPantheon. See also YouMeanXmas, GoodOfGood and GodOfEvil. Not to be confused with FantasyCounterpartCulture Christianity; a key element of CrystalDragonJesus is that it keeps the trappings of Christianity but substitutes a markedly different being in the deity's role. Also not to be confused with ChurchOfSaintGenericus, which is about churches whose denomination is unmentioned to avoid audience alienation/distraction. Is usually the center of a PhysicalReligion.

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Compare: AnimeCatholicism, NunsAreMiko, HijackedByJesus, FauxSymbolism, InterfaithSmoothie, KingOfAllCosmos, FantasyPantheon. See also YouMeanXmas, GoodOfGood GodOfGood and GodOfEvil. Not to be confused with FantasyCounterpartCulture Christianity; a key element of CrystalDragonJesus is that it keeps the trappings of Christianity but substitutes a markedly different being in the deity's role. Also not to be confused with ChurchOfSaintGenericus, which is about churches whose denomination is unmentioned to avoid audience alienation/distraction. Is usually the center of a PhysicalReligion.
11th Jul '16 11:53:03 AM StFan
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* In ''{{LightNovel/Slayers}}'', there's a literal dragon-worshiping church with suspiciously cross-like sunburst symbols and temples that tend to look rather Catholic. Their god Ceiphed sacrificed himself to save the world, too, and left behind four elemental dragon gods. Large factions of the church tend to have extremist policies about what's right in saving the world.

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* In ''{{LightNovel/Slayers}}'', ''LightNovel/{{Slayers}}'', there's a literal dragon-worshiping church with suspiciously cross-like sunburst symbols and temples that tend to look rather Catholic. Their god Ceiphed sacrificed himself to save the world, too, and left behind four elemental dragon gods. Large factions of the church tend to have extremist policies about what's right in saving the world.



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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'':
** The Church of Tal held an inquisition against magic and were, perhaps, the single most cohesive political entity in [[AnArc the story arc]] covered by ''The Dark''. Throw in quotes from [[Literature/TheBible The Book of Tal]] in case [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything this doesn't remind you of anything yet]]. The brilliant part is that the church's role in Terisiare's history is fairly well [[JustifiedTrope justified]] as the natural consequence of the Brother's War (which left the continent divided amongst independent city states in need of a unifying force and with a healthy distrust of magic and sufficiently advanced technology that got them into this mess).
** Serra is also a CrystalDragonJesus, as a planeswalker. Serra is first introduced via Serra Angel. ''Homelands'' gives us Serra Inquisitors. But the big point for Serra is ''Urza's Saga'', with cards like Worship, Pariah, and a buttload of angels for Serra. The ''Urza's Saga'' editions of plains are all from Serra's Realm, and they feature [[FluffyCloudHeaven floating continents]]. Storyline-wise, Serra's Realm is attacked by Phyrexians (the {{Expy}} for hell), leading to Planar Collapse. A year later, the flavor text for Copper-Leaf Angel says "When Serra made angels, people called her a goddess. My angels are superior to hers." (Unless it's late in the game and you've got land to spare, they aren't).
** Avacyn from the ''Innistrad'' block is a curious example. Her church is clearly modeled after medieval Christianity, but the dogma is vastly different (for starters, afterlife is a blessed sleep, and both [[OurAngelsAreDifferent angels]] and [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons]] are physical beings rather than otherworldly ones), and Avacyn herself is mankind's savior in a more direct sense, since she kills the monsters. In addition, she is essentially a moon goddess, like the Greek Selene. And a goth.
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* That ultra-pacifist fish-worship that [[BadAss Lobo]] preaches in ''[[ComicBook/FiftyTwo 52]]''.
* ''PlanetHulk'':

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* That ultra-pacifist fish-worship that [[BadAss Lobo]] ComicBook/{{Lobo}} preaches in ''[[ComicBook/FiftyTwo 52]]''.
''ComicBook/FiftyTwo''.
* ''PlanetHulk'':''ComicBook/PlanetHulk'':



* The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fanfiction ''Fanfic/{{Jericho}}'' plays this trope straight, but does so in a very interesting manner. The religion of the Teutsche—a strange [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy warrior nation]] that is a sort of CultureChopSuey between {{Prussia}}, ImperialGermany, and the more heroic aspects of {{Eagleland}} (Flavor 1)—is something of this. WordOfGod states that the religion is [[CrystalDragonJesus based off Christianity]], but is not it. They share the sign of the cross—which the narrator, [[FirstPersonSmartass Jericho]], a Teutscher himself, calls ''das Kreuzzeichen''—wear crosses, and even refer to their deity as “God” (or “Adonai”, an old Hebrew name meaning “Lord”).
** However, the more details the story gives about the religion, the less Christian it seems. Like how they believe that [[NameOfCain Kain]] to be a dark hero. Or, for one interesting example:
--> “... the sixth tenant of the faith is ‘you shall not murder’. It does not say ‘you shall not kill’. I mean, yes, you could interchange those two things sometimes, but to murder and to kill are two different concepts. Murder is wrong. Killing is just a fact of life in this world we live in. The faith makes the distinction quite clearly. The faith teaches that there is no shame in taking somebody’s life for the right reasons.”
** Exceptions that is true in Christianity as well, the distinction is just popularly ignored.
** And their version of the sign of cross is spoken with a different Latin phrase, which translates as “in the name of the Father, and of the Prophet, and of the Machine Spirit.” Or, as it is said in the fic:
--> ''“In Nomine Patris, et Prophetae, et Spiritus Machinae.”''
* FanFic/GoddessRebornChronicle has this not in God but in Lucifer and Veritas, the latter of which being a Gnostic figure with strong Buddhist trappings, even called The Jade Bodhisattva.

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* The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fanfiction ''Fanfic/{{Jericho}}'' plays this trope straight, but does so in a very interesting manner. The religion of the Teutsche—a strange [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy warrior nation]] that is a sort of CultureChopSuey between {{Prussia}}, ImperialGermany, and the more heroic aspects of {{Eagleland}} (Flavor 1)—is something of this. WordOfGod states that the religion is [[CrystalDragonJesus based off Christianity]], but is not it. They share the sign of the cross—which cross -- which the narrator, [[FirstPersonSmartass Jericho]], a Teutscher himself, calls ''das Kreuzzeichen''—wear Kreuzzeichen'' -- wear crosses, and even refer to their deity as “God” (or “Adonai”, "Adonai", an old Hebrew name meaning “Lord”).
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"Lord"). However, the more details the story gives about the religion, the less Christian it seems. Like how they believe that [[NameOfCain Kain]] to be a dark hero. Or, for one interesting example:
--> “...
example: "... the sixth tenant of the faith is ‘you 'you shall not murder’. murder'. It does not say ‘you 'you shall not kill’.kill'. I mean, yes, you could interchange those two things sometimes, but to murder and to kill are two different concepts. Murder is wrong. Killing is just a fact of life in this world we live in. The faith makes the distinction quite clearly. The faith teaches that there is no shame in taking somebody’s somebody's life for the right reasons.
** Exceptions
"[[note]]Exceptions that is true in Christianity as well, the distinction is just popularly ignored.
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ignored.[[/note]] And their version of the sign of cross is spoken with a different Latin phrase, which translates as “in "in the name of the Father, and of the Prophet, and of the Machine Spirit." Or, as it is said in the fic:
--> ''“In -->''In Nomine Patris, et Prophetae, et Spiritus Machinae.”''
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* FanFic/GoddessRebornChronicle ''FanFic/GoddessRebornChronicle'' has this not in God but in Lucifer and Veritas, the latter of which being a Gnostic figure with strong Buddhist trappings, even called The Jade Bodhisattva.



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** The prophecy of the Chosen One fits this trope almost perfectly. Of course, what actually happens makes Luke more Christ-like, redeeming his father through his suffering and all. And knowing GeorgeLucas, that's exactly where he was going with all the "hanging" imagery in ''Empire''.

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** The prophecy of the Chosen One fits this trope almost perfectly. Of course, what actually happens makes Luke more Christ-like, redeeming his father through his suffering and all. And knowing GeorgeLucas, Creator/GeorgeLucas, that's exactly where he was going with all the "hanging" imagery in ''Empire''.



** Omnianism is more of a ''parody'' of aspects of Christianity, but does worship Om as a bull or an eagle (or, later, a tortoise). Later on Omnians use an image of the prophet Brutha strapped to a torture device (an iron turtle that was filled with flame) in place of a crucifix. More obliquely, in the novel ''Feet of Clay'', Pratchett writes about a conflicting dead religion from the same region as Omnianism, which, given the fact that its "priests" make Golems, might be the Crystal Dragon Jesus version of Judaism. Omnians in later books have also picked up similar habits to Jehovah's Witnesses and the Salvation Army.
** Note that "Omnianism" could mean "Everythingism" (Latin, ''omnia'') and the name of the Great God could be a back formation. So what? Well, since "catholic" means "universal", "catholicism" might be parsed as "everythingism" too.
** Omnianism parodies different aspects of evangelical Christianity, specifically; in ''Small Gods'', which takes place some considerable time before the rest of the series, it's very much parallel to the Crusades, being inclined to spread the good word by the sword and dealing rather harshly with heretics (and occasionally taking incredibly liberal definitions of "heresy"). Omnians who are chronologically post-Small Gods are much less violent, and superficially resemble Jehovah's Witnesses; the City Watch books frequently mention that Constable "Washpot" Visit-The-Ungodly-With-Explanatory-Pamphlets spends all his off hours trooping door-to-door through Ankh-Morpork trying to win converts.

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** Omnianism is more of a ''parody'' of aspects of Christianity, but does worship Om as a bull or an eagle (or, later, a tortoise). Later on Omnians use an image of the prophet Brutha strapped to a torture device (an iron turtle that was filled with flame) in place of a crucifix. More obliquely, in the novel ''Feet of Clay'', Pratchett writes about a conflicting dead religion from the same region as Omnianism, which, given the fact that its "priests" make Golems, might be the Crystal Dragon Jesus version of Judaism. Omnians in later books have also picked up similar habits to Jehovah's Witnesses and the Salvation Army.
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Army. Note that "Omnianism" could mean "Everythingism" (Latin, ''omnia'') and the name of the Great God could be a back formation. So what? Well, since "catholic" means "universal", "catholicism" might be parsed as "everythingism" too.
** Omnianism parodies different aspects of evangelical Christianity, specifically; in ''Small Gods'', which takes place some considerable time before the rest of the series, it's very much parallel to the Crusades, being inclined to spread the good word by the sword and dealing rather harshly with heretics (and occasionally taking incredibly liberal definitions of "heresy"). Omnians who are chronologically post-Small Gods post-''Small Gods'' are much less violent, and superficially resemble Jehovah's Witnesses; the City Watch books frequently mention that Constable "Washpot" Visit-The-Ungodly-With-Explanatory-Pamphlets spends all his off hours trooping door-to-door through Ankh-Morpork trying to win converts.



** Interestingly, although the series' Klatchians are clearly Arabs, they are not explicitly linked with Islam other than through a few throwaway references to houris. This is because "Klatch" is both a country (that's half the mythical Araby and half the modern Middle East) and a continent which is basically a stand-in for Asia. The polytheistic religion of Klatch-the-country, complete with temples covered in erotic carvings, is closer to a Crystal Dragon Jesus version of Hinduism.
*** The Klatchians, especially in earlier books, correspond more to old portrayals of Araby, where the religion was something that encompassed paganism, satanism and (sometimes) the beliefs of pre-Islamic Arabs. (These were usually made from the point of view that the Crusaders were absolutely right, of course)

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** Interestingly, although the series' Klatchians are clearly Arabs, they are not explicitly linked with Islam other than through a few throwaway references to houris. This is because "Klatch" is both a country (that's half the mythical Araby and half the modern Middle East) and a continent which is basically a stand-in for Asia. The polytheistic religion of Klatch-the-country, complete with temples covered in erotic carvings, is closer to a Crystal Dragon Jesus version of Hinduism.
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Hinduism. The Klatchians, especially in earlier books, correspond more to old portrayals of Araby, where the religion was something that encompassed paganism, satanism and (sometimes) the beliefs of pre-Islamic Arabs. (These were usually made from the point of view that the Crusaders were absolutely right, of course)



** The church of Blind Io (a sort of Odin/Zeus expy) fills the spot of Church of England as the religion most pay lip service to, but no one gets all that excited about, including the priests.
*** Illustrations of Hugonon Ridcully (Chief Priest of Blind Io in Ahnk-Morpork) in Discworld/TheLastHero depict him in vestments that look very Bishop-y, and include plenty of crosses (which is especially odd as his god's symbol is a hammer).
** Offlerism (despite Offler being a crocodile god who fits thematically with Egyptian gods) has some elements of Christianity, such as showing one temple having a collection for fixing the roof, a common phenomenon in old English churches, but the religion also has elements of Islam. It's particularly common in some parts of Klatch, and there's a throwaway reference to devout Offlerians avoiding alcohol. Riffing on Muslim and Jewish dietary laws, Offler forbids his followers from eating broccoli - which is easy to follow, since no one wants to eat broccoli anyway.
** The deity Nuggan is basically intended to represent all that can be bad about a religion, and is an egomaniac who constantly imposes new prohibitions on his followers/declares new things to be abominations (in contrast to Offler, he prohibits things people would actually want to do). Nugganism was the state religion of Borogravia, a {{Ruritania}} with a MedievalMorons feel, although some readers have interpreted Borogravia under Nuggan is comparable to Afghanistan under the Taliban.
*** Among Nuggan's abominations are ''chocolate and garlic.'' A later book in the series seems to suggest Nuggan is now a small god, or a wisp of divine essence with little power or consciousness due to lack of worshipers. It's not that there are no Nugganites, but that their faith is now centered on the abominations rather than the god; it's likely he hasn't actually issued any of the recent abominations.

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** The church of Blind Io (a sort of Odin/Zeus expy) fills the spot of Church of England as the religion most pay lip service to, but no one gets all that excited about, including the priests.
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priests. Illustrations of Hugonon Ridcully (Chief Priest of Blind Io in Ahnk-Morpork) in Discworld/TheLastHero ''Discworld/TheLastHero'' depict him in vestments that look very Bishop-y, and include plenty of crosses (which is especially odd as his god's symbol is a hammer).
** Offlerism (despite Offler being a crocodile god who fits thematically with Egyptian gods) has some elements of Christianity, such as showing one temple having a collection for fixing the roof, a common phenomenon in old English churches, but the religion also has elements of Islam. It's particularly common in some parts of Klatch, and there's a throwaway reference to devout Offlerians avoiding alcohol. Riffing on Muslim and Jewish dietary laws, Offler forbids his followers from eating broccoli - -- which is easy to follow, since no one no-one wants to eat broccoli anyway.
** The deity Nuggan is basically intended to represent all that can be bad about a religion, and is an egomaniac who constantly imposes new prohibitions on his followers/declares new things to be abominations (in contrast to Offler, he prohibits things people would actually want to do). Nugganism was the state religion of Borogravia, a {{Ruritania}} with a MedievalMorons feel, although some readers have interpreted Borogravia under Nuggan is comparable to Afghanistan under the Taliban.
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Taliban. Among Nuggan's abominations are ''chocolate and garlic.'' A later book in the series seems to suggest Nuggan is now a small god, or a wisp of divine essence with little power or consciousness due to lack of worshipers. It's not that there are no Nugganites, but that their faith is now centered on the abominations rather than the god; it's likely he hasn't actually issued any of the recent abominations.



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* In ''Series/{{Smallville}}'', [[{{Superman}} Clark]], [[CaptainObvious obviously]]. He has been crucified or dead for multiple times, and even once said [[DarkActionGirl Tess]] refers to him as some sort of "alien Jesus".

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* In ''Series/{{Smallville}}'', [[{{Superman}} [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Clark]], [[CaptainObvious obviously]]. He has been crucified or dead for multiple times, and even once said [[DarkActionGirl Tess]] refers to him as some sort of "alien Jesus".



** Origin is -- like the rest of the villains in it -- a dark alien parody of an Earth religion, in this case, the conservative fundamental Christian one (with just a few touches of Mormonism). Not only do they have their own priests and missionaries, they have their own Jesus figure (Adria) and a distinctly King James-styled holy book. The only difference: the religion's "gods" are SufficientlyAdvancedAlien EnergyBeings with a fire-and-brimstone motif.
** Notably, though, the main characters are quick to bring up the similarities. Mitchell, in particular, often compares the Priors and their preaching to his Bible-thumping grandmother.
** On the other hand, in one episode, they were [[JesusTaboo oddly hesitant]] to liken Vala's pregnancy to that of Mary's, instead comparing it to the births of King Arthur and Darth Vader.
*** This particular case may be at least partly attributed to the RuleOfFunny. Everyone ''expects'' the cast to point out Jesus (especially with the aforementioned parallels between Origin and fundamentalist Christianity), so it's funnier when Teal'c answers with Darth Vader (a callback to Teal'c having watched ''Franchise/StarWars'' nine times since coming to Earth) instead. If you watch the rest of the cast's faces, it's clearly unexpected to them, too. As well, Mitchell suggesting KingArthur is probably partly influenced by the fact that the legend of King Arthur got them into the whole Ori mess in the first place, so it would be on his mind. Carter's reaction to Mitchell clearly show she was about to say Jesus herself. This is compounded by the fact that Mitchell has repeatedly mentioned how often he went to church with his grandma as a kid.
--->'''Vala:''' ''(About her spontaneous pregnancy)'' Have you ever heard of anything like that? ''(The rest of the team looks around hesitantly)''
--->'''Teal'c:''' Darth Vader.
--->'''Vala:''' Really? How did that turn out?
--->'''Mitchell:''' Well, actually, I was thinking about King Arthur.
--->'''Carter''': Really?

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** Origin is -- like the rest of the villains in it -- a dark alien parody of an Earth religion, in this case, the conservative fundamental Christian one (with just a few touches of Mormonism). Not only do they have their own priests and missionaries, they have their own Jesus figure (Adria) and a distinctly King James-styled holy book. The only difference: the religion's "gods" are SufficientlyAdvancedAlien EnergyBeings with a fire-and-brimstone motif.
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motif. Notably, though, the main characters are quick to bring up the similarities. Mitchell, in particular, often compares the Priors and their preaching to his Bible-thumping grandmother.
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grandmother. On the other hand, in one episode, they were [[JesusTaboo oddly hesitant]] to liken Vala's pregnancy to that of Mary's, instead comparing it to the births of King Arthur and Darth Vader.
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Vader. This particular case may be at least partly attributed to the RuleOfFunny. Everyone ''expects'' the cast to point out Jesus (especially with the aforementioned parallels between Origin and fundamentalist Christianity), so it's funnier when Teal'c answers with Darth Vader (a callback to Teal'c having watched ''Franchise/StarWars'' nine times since coming to Earth) instead. If you watch the rest of the cast's faces, it's clearly unexpected to them, too. As well, Mitchell suggesting KingArthur Myth/KingArthur is probably partly influenced by the fact that the legend of King Arthur got them into the whole Ori mess in the first place, so it would be on his mind. Carter's reaction to Mitchell clearly show she was about to say Jesus herself. This is compounded by the fact that Mitchell has repeatedly mentioned how often he went to church with his grandma as a kid.
--->'''Vala:''' ''(About ''[about her spontaneous pregnancy)'' pregnancy]'' Have you ever heard of anything like that? ''(The ''[the rest of the team looks around hesitantly)''
--->'''Teal'c:'''
hesitantly]''\\
'''Teal'c:'''
Darth Vader.
--->'''Vala:'''
Vader.\\
'''Vala:'''
Really? How did that turn out?
--->'''Mitchell:'''
out?\\
'''Mitchell:'''
Well, actually, I was thinking about King Arthur.
--->'''Carter''':
Arthur.\\
'''Carter:'''
Really?



** The show tended to shy away from making ANY connection to modern religion in the first few seasons. The first "gods" were either ancient Egyptian (Ra, Apophis, Seth, Heru'ur, Hathor), Greek (Chronos) or Norse (Thor). As more system lords were introduced, this rule began to waver, such as with the introduction of a Goa'uld masquerading as Satan - and they even tried to give that one trappings of Egyptian myth (with of course, the completely wrong Goa'uld). Later we even got [[UsefulNotes/{{Taoism}} Yu the Jade Emperor]] and [[{{UsefulNotes.Shinto}} Amatherasu]], but Abrahamic religions remained mostly absent. This is, of course, probably due to the JesusTaboo.

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** The show tended to shy away from making ANY connection to modern religion in the first few seasons. The first "gods" were either ancient Egyptian (Ra, Apophis, Seth, Heru'ur, Hathor), Greek (Chronos) or Norse (Thor). As more system lords were introduced, this rule began to waver, such as with the introduction of a Goa'uld masquerading as Satan - -- and they even tried to give that one trappings of Egyptian myth (with of course, the completely wrong Goa'uld). Later we even got [[UsefulNotes/{{Taoism}} Yu the Jade Emperor]] and [[{{UsefulNotes.Shinto}} [[UsefulNotes/{{Shinto}} Amatherasu]], but Abrahamic religions remained mostly absent. This is, of course, probably due to the JesusTaboo.



* ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'''s Church of the Silver Flame, which has many paladins in its service and bears similar parallels to Catholicism, including ruling an entire country and leading its own inquisitorial purge against lycanthropes and their shifter cousins back in the day. It's worth noting that Keith Baker, the setting's author, designed Eberron so that clerics of a given god do not have to share that god's alignment, allowing for KnightTemplar villains among the ranks of good churches as well as {{anti hero}}es among the darker faiths.
** Although the Sovereign Host is farther from Catholicism in organisation than the Church of Silver Flame, it does have enough stylistic similarities to be the source of the page image.[[note]]That blue-yellow cross-thing? The symbol of the Sovereign Host as a whole.[[/note]]
** In fact their symbol, minus the coloring, is an old christian symbol, being described by Clement of Alexandria and other places. It also get bonus points for resembling the Coat of arms of the Church of Norway which actually is a cross [[AnAxeToGrind holding axes]].

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'''s Church of the Silver Flame, which has many paladins in its service and bears similar parallels to Catholicism, including ruling an entire country and leading its own inquisitorial purge against lycanthropes and their shifter cousins back in the day. It's worth noting that Keith Baker, the setting's author, designed Eberron so that clerics of a given god do not have to share that god's alignment, allowing for KnightTemplar villains among the ranks of good churches as well as {{anti hero}}es among the darker faiths.
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faiths. Although the Sovereign Host is farther from Catholicism in organisation than the Church of Silver Flame, it does have enough stylistic similarities to be the source of the page image.[[note]]That blue-yellow cross-thing? The symbol of the Sovereign Host as a whole.[[/note]]
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[[/note]] In fact their symbol, minus the coloring, is an old christian symbol, being described by Clement of Alexandria and other places. It also get bonus points for resembling the Coat of arms of the Church of Norway which actually is a cross [[AnAxeToGrind holding axes]].



* The ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' setting features the Church of Ezra, which, despite centering on a female founder, is a faith in many ways very closely mimicking Christianity, the Catholic Church in particular. Apart from a generally very similar hierarchy, its history includes internal schisms, a branch sect mirroring the Anglican Church in the in-world version of England, and possibly very corrupt ties with an in-world version of the historical Borgias. Fanon takes this further, with devoted fan-made documentation describing the Church of Ezra's impact on the "faith of the loa" (an analogue of real world Vodun practices) in the Southern-Gothic themed domain of the setting. Faiths in Ravenloft tend to be more inclined toward actual monotheism than is common in many other fantasy settings where, while gods may rival each other or war outright, it is common that the majority still acknowledge that the others exist.
** Ezra herself is a martyred DistaffCounterpart CrystalDragonJesus, albeit a Jesus-figure without a Yahweh rather than vice versa.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'':
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The ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' setting features the Church of Ezra, which, despite centering on a female founder, is a faith in many ways very closely mimicking Christianity, the Catholic Church in particular. Apart from a generally very similar hierarchy, its history includes internal schisms, a branch sect mirroring the Anglican Church in the in-world version of England, and possibly very corrupt ties with an in-world version of the historical Borgias. Fanon takes this further, with devoted fan-made documentation describing the Church of Ezra's impact on the "faith of the loa" (an analogue of real world Vodun practices) in the Southern-Gothic themed domain of the setting. Faiths in Ravenloft tend to be more inclined toward actual monotheism than is common in many other fantasy settings where, while gods may rival each other or war outright, it is common that the majority still acknowledge that the others exist.
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exist. Ezra herself is a martyred DistaffCounterpart CrystalDragonJesus, Jesus, albeit a Jesus-figure without a Yahweh rather than vice versa.



** Ravenloft very specifically mentions that the gods can't (or won't) interfere directly in Ravenloft. It is [[strike: * strongly* ]] ''inconsistently'' hinted that any divine powers clerics receive are, in fact, granted by the Dark Powers instead. For outlanders visiting the Domain of Dread, it is recommended that this loss of a close connection be played up to increase divine classes' sense of insecurity. Natives, who have never experienced anything else, expect the gods to be distant or absent.

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** Ravenloft very specifically mentions that the gods can't (or won't) interfere directly in Ravenloft. It is [[strike: * strongly* ]] ''inconsistently'' hinted that any divine powers clerics receive are, in fact, granted by the Dark Powers instead. For outlanders visiting the Domain of Dread, it is recommended that this loss of a close connection be played up to increase divine classes' sense of insecurity. Natives, who have never experienced anything else, expect the gods to be distant or absent.



* The World of ''TabletopGame/{{Greyhawk}}'' has St. Cuthbert, whose church is quasi-Catholic, and is named after St. Cuthbert of Lindesfarne, a 7th-century English saint. Maybe this is a case of Crystal Dragon Sainthood, but still...
** The Cuthbert of Lindesfarne and the Cuthbert of Greyhawk are connected via a printed adventure (in Dragon #100) which takes place in real-world London.
** Let's not forget [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelor Pelor...]]
* ''[[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Warhammer 40K]]''

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* The World of ''TabletopGame/{{Greyhawk}}'' has St. Cuthbert, whose church is quasi-Catholic, and is named after St. Cuthbert of Lindesfarne, a 7th-century English saint. Maybe this is a case of Crystal Dragon Sainthood, but still...
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still... The Cuthbert of Lindesfarne and the Cuthbert of Greyhawk are connected via a printed adventure (in Dragon #100) which takes place in real-world London.
** Let's not forget [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelor Pelor...]]
* ''[[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Warhammer 40K]]''''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'':



* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy'', the ([[FantasyCounterpartCulture Holy Roman]]) Empire's main religion, the Cult of Sigmar, can be described as Roman Catholicism if Jesus was a mix of Charlemagne and Conan the Barbarian. Unlike many other examples of this trope, the Empire tolerates the open worship of the rest of Old World pantheon (basically a combo of various pre-Christian European religions), with most people praying to the appropriate god as needed; the rival Cult of Ulric is also a major political player.

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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy'', ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the ([[FantasyCounterpartCulture Holy Roman]]) Empire's main religion, the Cult of Sigmar, can be described as Roman Catholicism if Jesus was a mix of Charlemagne and Conan the Barbarian. Unlike many other examples of this trope, the Empire tolerates the open worship of the rest of Old World pantheon (basically a combo of various pre-Christian European religions), with most people praying to the appropriate god as needed; the rival Cult of Ulric is also a major political player.



* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'':
** The Church of Tal held an inquisition against magic and were, perhaps, the single most cohesive political entity in [[AnArc the story arc]] covered by ''The Dark''. Throw in quotes from [[Literature/TheBible The Book of Tal]] in case [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything this doesn't remind you of anything yet]]. The brilliant part is that the church's role in Terisiare's history is fairly well [[JustifiedTrope justified]] as the natural consequence of the Brother's War (which left the continent divided amongst independent city states in need of a unifying force and with a healthy distrust of magic and sufficiently advanced technology that got them into this mess).
** Serra is also a CrystalDragonJesus, as a planeswalker. Serra is first introduced via Serra Angel. ''Homelands'' gives us Serra Inquisitors. But the big point for Serra is ''Urza's Saga'', with cards like Worship, Pariah, and a buttload of angels for Serra. The ''Urza's Saga'' editions of plains are all from Serra's Realm, and they feature [[FluffyCloudHeaven floating continents]]. Storyline-wise, Serra's Realm is attacked by Phyrexians (the {{Expy}} for hell), leading to Planar Collapse. A year later, the flavor text for Copper-Leaf Angel says "When Serra made angels, people called her a goddess. My angels are superior to hers." (Unless it's late in the game and you've got land to spare, they aren't).
** Avacyn from the ''Innistrad'' block is a curious example. Her church is clearly modeled after medieval Christianity, but the dogma is vastly different (for starters, afterlife is a blessed sleep, and both [[OurAngelsAreDifferent angels]] and [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons]] are physical beings rather than otherworldly ones), and Avacyn herself is mankind's savior in a more direct sense, since she kills the monsters. In addition, she is essentially a moon goddess, like the Greek Selene. And a goth.



* The religion of Azadi from DreamfallTheLongestJourney is a Crystal Dragon Islam, except that their deity is female and this religion teaches that women are superior sex

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* The religion of Azadi from DreamfallTheLongestJourney ''VideoGame/DreamfallTheLongestJourney'' is a Crystal Dragon Islam, except that their deity is female and this religion teaches that women are the superior sex



-->'''GreenLantern Batman:''' YOU'RE ALL FUCKED.
** Ironically enough, one of the persons that asks you to accept Batman as your lord and savior? [[Literature/TheBible Jesus]].

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-->'''GreenLantern -->'''ComicBook/GreenLantern Batman:''' YOU'RE ALL FUCKED.
** :: Ironically enough, one of the persons that asks you to accept Batman as your lord and savior? [[Literature/TheBible Jesus]].






* The Truth of Zod in ''OpenBlue'' is more or less the Roman Catholic Church under a different name, with a couple of differences, namely, the lack of a Jesus, and the fact that the God they worship is a [[KingOfAllCosmos drunken bastard who likes armwrestling]] with an expy of Cthulhu.
* [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick Nella's]] ''MyLittlePony'' drama parodies this, when the Lunar Polar Bear (which is of course Jesus) saves the day and hits on the whore teacher with a heart of gold.

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* The Truth of Zod in ''OpenBlue'' ''Roleplay/OpenBlue'' is more or less the Roman Catholic Church under a different name, with a couple of differences, namely, the lack of a Jesus, and the fact that the God they worship is a [[KingOfAllCosmos drunken bastard who likes armwrestling]] with an expy of Cthulhu.
* [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick Nella's]] ''MyLittlePony'' ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick'': Nella's ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'' drama parodies this, when the Lunar Polar Bear (which is of course Jesus) saves the day and hits on the whore teacher with a heart of gold.



* Aang from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' is an interesting case. The concept of an 'Avatar' is one taken from Hinduism and Buddhism, meaning a god who has taken mortal form. However, there are many separate philosophies across the world which seem to hold elements from other Asian, Pagan and Native American belief systems.
** Specifically, the mythology of Aang as the Avatar is lifted directly from The Dalai Lama, down to reincarnation and being chosen at a young age by ancient toys and heirlooms from the previous Avatar's possessions. The creators even named him "Buddha Boy" as a working name before they came up with "Aang."
** In ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', the Avatarverse's cosmology is basically made into a blend of Shinto, Taoism and Zoroastrianism: as with the previous series, [[NatureSpirit nature spirits]] are abundant, but the two most powerful ones are embodiments of light and darkness that are constantly fighting for control of the world. [[spoiler:And the Avatar is the light spirit's fusion with a human soul.]]
* Robotology from ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''.
** Coupled with Robot Judaism, whose followers believe that Robot Jesus existed and was very well programmed, but he wasn't their messiah.
** There's also the Lizard Space Pope, and a literal incarnation of Heaven. Basically, they really like to play with this.

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* Aang from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' is an interesting case. The concept of an 'Avatar' "Avatar" is one taken from Hinduism and Buddhism, meaning a god who has taken mortal form. However, there are many separate philosophies across the world which seem to hold elements from other Asian, Pagan and Native American belief systems.
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systems. Specifically, the mythology of Aang as the Avatar is lifted directly from The Dalai Lama, down to reincarnation and being chosen at a young age by ancient toys and heirlooms from the previous Avatar's possessions. The creators even named him "Buddha Boy" as a working name before they came up with "Aang."
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"Aang".
*
In ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', the Avatarverse's cosmology is basically made into a blend of Shinto, Taoism and Zoroastrianism: as with the previous series, [[NatureSpirit nature spirits]] are abundant, but the two most powerful ones are embodiments of light and darkness that are constantly fighting for control of the world. [[spoiler:And the Avatar is the light spirit's fusion with a human soul.]]
* Robotology from ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''.
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''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''. Coupled with Robot Judaism, whose followers believe that Robot Jesus existed and was very well programmed, but he wasn't their messiah.
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messiah. There's also the Lizard Space Pope, and a literal incarnation of Heaven. Basically, they really like to play with this.



* In ''WesternAnimation/MoralOrel'', this was the obvious purpose of Orel's short lived dog Bartholomew, who was [[spoiler: killed because he spread too much joy to the townsfolk.]]
* Completely intentional, but the Super Adventure Club in the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode, The Return of Chef, is clearly meant to mock and mirror Scientology.
* The various ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' continuities have various incarnations of the god Primus, who has been portrayed as alternately an extremely powerful but tangible being, an actual god, or a tangible Transformer creator figure whose vehicle mode just happens to be the planet Cybertron. When in his most god-tastic form, Unicron often plays the Devil to his God.
** Word of God suggests that The Fallen is playing this role in the live-action movies.
** And there's the minor detail that Optimus Prime has effectively become some kind of Robot Jesus - sometimes referred to as Optimus Christ. Greatly aided by the fact that his tendency to die and be resurrected shortly thereafter is more or less a {{running gag}} at this point.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/MoralOrel'', this was the obvious purpose of Orel's short lived short-lived dog Bartholomew, who was [[spoiler: killed [[spoiler:killed because he spread too much joy to the townsfolk.]]
* Completely intentional, but the Super Adventure Club in the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode, The "The Return of Chef, Chef", is clearly meant to mock and mirror Scientology.
* The various ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' continuities have various incarnations of the god Primus, who has been portrayed as alternately an extremely powerful but tangible being, an actual god, or a tangible Transformer creator figure whose vehicle mode just happens to be the planet Cybertron. When in his most god-tastic form, Unicron often plays the Devil to his God.
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God. Word of God suggests that The Fallen is playing this role in the live-action movies.
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movies. And there's the minor detail that Optimus Prime has effectively become some kind of Robot Jesus - -- sometimes referred to as Optimus Christ. Greatly aided by the fact that his tendency to die and be resurrected shortly thereafter is more or less a {{running gag}} at this point.



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* ''Webcomic/KillSixBillionDemons'': Non-Christian variant. The multiverse is clearly very heavily inspired by Hinduism, with a multitude of gods that are technically the same being, themes of balance and mirrored forces, and so on. At the same time, it is not actually attempting to ''be'' Hinduism. It does have a few Christian elements, with angels as upholders of the Law and devils as powerful tricksters that exist outside it.
8th Jul '16 7:27:48 PM Doug86
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* ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' games commonly do this, generally draping stories of "past hero" around a Bishop-class character. Usually the head deity/hero of the church will have the title of Saint. They aren't an actual God, just a really cool person. The [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Elibe games]] have Saint Elimine. ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones The Sacred Stones]]'' has the Theocracy of Rausten. Its founder was the only person strong enough to shake off the [[{{Satan}} Demon King's]] MindControl.

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* ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' games commonly do this, generally draping stories of "past hero" around a Bishop-class character. Usually the head deity/hero of the church will have the title of Saint. They aren't an actual God, just a really cool person. The [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Elibe games]] have Saint Elimine. ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones The Sacred Stones]]'' has the Theocracy of Rausten. Its founder was the only person strong enough to shake off the [[{{Satan}} Demon King's]] MindControl.
4th Jul '16 2:36:27 PM Preda
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* In a strange variant, the [[MegaCorp Corpus]] of VideoGame/{{Warframe}} are based on ancient merchant guilds, but their manufacturing process is stated to be part typical factory dronemanship, part ancient ritual, as their materials are from [[LostTechnology an ancient]] [[{{Precursors}} time]]. They even have ''temples'', which they use to [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwash workers.]]

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* In a strange variant, the [[MegaCorp Corpus]] faction of VideoGame/{{Warframe}} ''VideoGame/{{Warframe}}'' are a corporate alliance based on ancient merchant guilds, but their manufacturing process is stated to be part typical factory dronemanship, part ancient ritual, as because their materials are from [[LostTechnology an ancient]] [[{{Precursors}} time]]. They even have ''temples'', which they use to [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwash workers.]]]] They worship the concept of financial profit [[CorruptCorporateExecutive at any cost]], but also seem to treat the [[HyperspaceIsAScaryPlace Void dimension]] as a sentient deity, much like the [[{{Precursors}} Orokin]] before them.



* ''VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}'' has the Abbey of the Everyman. Though it has no stated deity, it has a Satan analogue (the Outsider), a list of commandments for its worshippers to follow (the Seven Strictures), its own form of Inquisition, and burns witches and heretics at the stake.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}'' has the Abbey of the Everyman. Though it It has no stated deity, it and indeed seems to be centered around a humanist ''opposition'' to the supernatural. It has a Satan analogue (the Outsider), a list of commandments for its worshippers worshipers to follow (the Seven Strictures), its own form of Inquisition, and burns witches and heretics at the stake.
16th Jun '16 7:46:17 AM ChaoticNovelist
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Compare: AnimeCatholicism, NunsAreMiko, HijackedByJesus, FauxSymbolism, InterfaithSmoothie, KingOfAllCosmos, FantasyPantheon. See also YouMeanXmas and GodOfEvil. Not to be confused with FantasyCounterpartCulture Christianity; a key element of CrystalDragonJesus is that it keeps the trappings of Christianity but substitutes a markedly different being in the deity's role. Also not to be confused with ChurchOfSaintGenericus, which is about churches whose denomination is unmentioned to avoid audience alienation/distraction. Is usually the center of a PhysicalReligion.

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Compare: AnimeCatholicism, NunsAreMiko, HijackedByJesus, FauxSymbolism, InterfaithSmoothie, KingOfAllCosmos, FantasyPantheon. See also YouMeanXmas YouMeanXmas, GoodOfGood and GodOfEvil. Not to be confused with FantasyCounterpartCulture Christianity; a key element of CrystalDragonJesus is that it keeps the trappings of Christianity but substitutes a markedly different being in the deity's role. Also not to be confused with ChurchOfSaintGenericus, which is about churches whose denomination is unmentioned to avoid audience alienation/distraction. Is usually the center of a PhysicalReligion.
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* Explicitly invoked from a Christian perspective in James White's ''Literature/SectorGeneral'' novel ''The Genocidal Healer'': it is stated in the novel that every sentient culture turns out to have a figure in their history clearly analogous to Jesus Christ and a Christianity-like religion.
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