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28th Mar '17 4:05:36 AM Doug86
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* That ultra-pacifist fish-worship that {{Lobo}} preaches in ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo''.

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* That ultra-pacifist fish-worship that {{Lobo}} SelfDemonstrating/{{Lobo}} preaches in ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo''.
26th Mar '17 1:46:33 PM DaibhidC
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** Omnianism parodies different aspects of evangelical Christianity, specifically; in ''Small Gods'', which takes place some considerable time before the rest of the series, it's very much parallel to the Crusades, being inclined to spread the good word by the sword and dealing rather harshly with heretics (and occasionally taking incredibly liberal definitions of "heresy"). Omnians who are chronologically post-''Small Gods'' are much less violent, and superficially resemble Jehovah's Witnesses; the City Watch books frequently mention that Constable "Washpot" Visit-The-Ungodly-With-Explanatory-Pamphlets spends all his off hours trooping door-to-door through Ankh-Morpork trying to win converts.

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** Omnianism parodies different aspects of evangelical Christianity, specifically; in ''Small Gods'', which takes ([[TimeyWimeyBall possibly]])takes place some considerable time before the rest of the series, it's very much parallel to the Crusades, being inclined to spread the good word by the sword and dealing rather harshly with heretics (and occasionally taking incredibly liberal definitions of "heresy"). Omnians who are chronologically post-''Small Gods'' are much less violent, and superficially resemble Jehovah's Witnesses; the City Watch books frequently mention that Constable "Washpot" Visit-The-Ungodly-With-Explanatory-Pamphlets spends all his off hours trooping door-to-door through Ankh-Morpork trying to win converts.
18th Mar '17 3:12:58 PM StarSword
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* ''Fanfic/BaitAndSwitchSTO'' extends the [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Bajoran religion]]'s Catholic imitation to the point of including at least one major schism, implied to be similar to the Protestant Reformation. In ''Fanfic/FromBajorToTheBlack'', Kanril Eleya refuses to follow her boyfriend to a church-backed college because they "push the Orthodox branch like it's going out of style", whereas a deceased crew member in "Fanfic/LastRights" is identified as a "secular Foundation Reformist".

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* ''Fanfic/BaitAndSwitchSTO'' extends the [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Bajoran religion]]'s Catholic imitation to the point of including at least one major schism, implied to be similar to the Protestant Reformation.Reformation or the split between Orthodox and Reform Judaism. In ''Fanfic/FromBajorToTheBlack'', Kanril Eleya refuses to follow her boyfriend to a church-backed college because they "push the Orthodox branch like it's going out of style", whereas a deceased crew member in "Fanfic/LastRights" is identified as a "secular Foundation Reformist".
18th Mar '17 3:10:58 PM StarSword
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* Andraste in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' can easily be mistaken for a Crystal Dragon Jesus, but is in fact much more of a Crystal Dragon Jesus/Mary/Mohammed/Joan of Arc amalgam. She was chosen by [[LowestCosmicDenominator The Maker]] rather late in life to be his prophetess (Mohammed) for being exceptionally devout and a true believer (Mary, Mohammed, Joan). She then unified the factions of dissenters against the religious establishment and created an army which she led on a highly successful [[UsefulNotes/TheCrusades Exalted March]] (Mohammed, Joan). She was later betrayed by some of her closest generals and advisers (Jesus) and burnt at the stake (Jesus, Joan). However, she was never regarded as a child of the Maker, nor was she ever resurrected.
** The Andrastian Chantry is somewhat a mix of the Byzantine Orthodoxy and the Catholic Church, however. The church is lead by a "Divine" (IE: Pope) who, much like the Pope in real life, takes on a different name upon being beatified. As a departure, only women are allowed in the upper echelons of the order: there are only Revered Mothers (bishops), no male Grand Clerics (cardinals), and no male Divine in the history, except for the schism of the religion in the [[TheRemnant Tevinter Imperium]].
** Amusingly enough, there is an example of a cult worshipping a dragon that they believe is a reincarnation of Andraste.
** There are also the Qunari, whose teachings are a lot closer to a strand of extremist Confucianism. However in the game, they clearly stand in for the expansion of Islam into Southern Europe during the middle ages. Coming over the sea, they settled some parts of Thedas and converted the people to the Qun (Spain, Southern Balkan), which caused the Chantry to call for Exalted Marches to push them back (the crusades), and they regard it as their duty to spread knowledge of the divine law to the infidels, which goes hand in hand with expanding their empire. There are also some aspiring converts in Kirkwall, which causes (local) terrorists to plan attacks with weapons of mass destruction to fight the spread of the heretic techings of the Qunari.

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* ''Franchise/DragonAge'':
** The Andrastian Chantry is an amalgam of several Abrahamic faiths.
*** The Chantry itself is somewhat a mix of the Byzantine Orthodoxy and the Catholic Church. The church is lead by a "Divine" who, much like the Pope in real life, takes on a different name upon being beatified. As a departure, only women are allowed in the upper echelons of the order: there are only Revered Mothers (bishops), no male Grand Clerics (cardinals), and no male Divine, except for the schism of the religion in the [[VestigialEmpire Tevinter Imperium]] (which also allows mages to be clerics, considered extremely heretical by the Chantry of the rest of Thedas). They have also been known to call for Exalted Marches (crusades) against religious enemies.\\
*** The Chantry's messiah figure
Andraste in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' can easily be mistaken for a Crystal Dragon Jesus, but is in fact much more mixes elements of a Crystal Dragon Jesus/Mary/Mohammed/Joan of Arc amalgam.{{Jesus}}, UsefulNotes/{{Muhammad}}, and UsefulNotes/JoanOfArc. She was chosen by [[LowestCosmicDenominator The Maker]] rather late in life to be his prophetess (Mohammed) for being exceptionally devout and a true believer (Mary, Mohammed, Joan). She then unified the factions of dissenters against the religious establishment and created an army which she led on a highly successful [[UsefulNotes/TheCrusades Exalted March]] (Mohammed, Joan). She was later betrayed by some of her closest generals and advisers (Jesus) and burnt at the stake (Jesus, Joan). However, she was never regarded as a child of the Maker, nor was she ever resurrected.
** The Andrastian Chantry is somewhat a mix of the Byzantine Orthodoxy and the Catholic Church, however. The church is lead by a "Divine" (IE: Pope) who, much like the Pope in real life, takes on a different name upon being beatified. As a departure, only women are allowed in the upper echelons of the order: there are only Revered Mothers (bishops), no male Grand Clerics (cardinals), and no male Divine in the history, except for the schism of the religion in the [[TheRemnant Tevinter Imperium]].
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*** Amusingly enough, there is an example of a cult worshipping a dragon that they believe is a reincarnation of Andraste.
** There are also the Qunari, whose teachings are a lot closer to a strand of extremist Confucianism. However in the game, they clearly stand in for the expansion of Islam into Southern Europe during the middle ages. Coming over the sea, they settled some parts of Thedas and converted the people to the Qun (Spain, Southern Balkan), which caused the Chantry to call for Exalted Marches to push them back (the crusades), and they regard it as their duty to spread knowledge of the divine law to the infidels, which goes hand in hand with expanding their empire. There are also some aspiring converts in Kirkwall, Kirkwall in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', which causes (local) terrorists to plan attacks with weapons of mass destruction to fight the spread of the heretic techings of the Qunari.
7th Mar '17 2:31:31 PM gb00393
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** The Faith of the Seven, the official religion of Westeros, is very reminiscent of the Catholic Church. In addition to supplanting the pagan religion of the "old gods", the Faith worships a single god with seven aspects similar to the Holy Trinity and has a hierarchy of celibate clergy including septons (priests/monks) and septas (nuns), begging brothers (friars), and elite of Most Devout (cardinals), and a single High Septon (pope) at the top. Membership, or at least lip service, is mandatory to become a knight.

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** The Faith of the Seven, the official religion of Westeros, is very reminiscent of the Catholic Church. In addition to supplanting the pagan religion of the "old gods", the Faith worships a single god with seven aspects similar to the Holy Trinity and has a hierarchy of celibate clergy including septons (priests/monks) and septas (nuns), begging brothers (friars), and elite of Most Devout (cardinals), and a single High Septon (pope) at the top. Membership, or at least lip service, is mandatory to become a knight. However, the Faith is much more subservient to the crown than the Church was in most of medieval Europe. With few exceptions, the religion is rare in both the North and the Iron Islands; the former still follows pagan rituals of the Old Gods and the latter worships "the Drowned God."
4th Mar '17 9:43:04 PM Prime32
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** Generally speaking, despite each setting having what is described as a pantheon, D&D's religion creates a set of parallel monotheisms (with characters worshiping a single god) rather than a polytheism (with characters directing prayers and devotion to whatever god is important to them while worshiping the entire pantheon).

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** Generally speaking, despite Despite each setting having what is described as a pantheon, D&D's religion creates a set in many of parallel monotheisms (with characters worshiping a single god) rather than a them the idea of actual polytheism (with characters directing prayers (worshipping more than one god) is treated as eccentric and devotion indecisive at best, or blasphemous at worst. The default assumption seems to whatever be some form of henotheism (believing in all gods of the setting, but worshipping only one) - if a worshipper of the god of fire is important about to them while worshiping set off on a dangerous sea voyage, he either [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer prays to the entire pantheon).god of fire to calm the sea]], or asks a follower of the sea god to pray for him.
28th Feb '17 9:50:59 PM GingeContinge92
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*David Weber's ''Literature/Safehold'' series features the Church of God Awaiting, a technophobic world church which is so prevalent that the concept of atheism literally doesn't exist in the planetary society. Played with in that the audience knows from the start that the teachings and holy scripture are all lies, deliberately crafted by members of the colonization mission in order to prevent the population from advancing to the point that they might be noticed by the aliens that destroyed the rest of humanity. The protagonist's mission is to break the Church's power and reveal the truth, leading to the beginning of the first-ever schism in the thousand-year history of Safehold in the second novel.
25th Feb '17 10:03:02 AM nombretomado
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* In ''AceCombat 6'', the Emmerians worship a historical figure dubbed the "Golden King", and have a huge golden statue of him bearing his armor. It is quite clear that the Emmerians hold some kind of religious awe over him similar to that of Jesus or even God, but it mainly seems to be there just to differentiate the Emmerians from the apparently secular Estovakians.

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* In ''AceCombat 6'', ''VideoGame/AceCombat6FiresOfLiberation'', the Emmerians worship a historical figure dubbed the "Golden King", and have a huge golden statue of him bearing his armor. It is quite clear that the Emmerians hold some kind of religious awe over him similar to that of Jesus or even God, but it mainly seems to be there just to differentiate the Emmerians from the apparently secular Estovakians.
24th Feb '17 8:04:39 AM matruz
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** Beyond the Walls there's [[spoiler:the cult of Ymir, the Progenitor/Original Titan and Patron-Saint of the Eldian people; Ymir herself, like Andraste from ''Franchise/DragonAge'' mentioned below, seems to be a combination of a female Jesus with Joan of Arc with the ability to turn into a Titan to boot. Interestingly, for the Eldians she is revered as a goddess-savior, while for the Marleyans she is portrayed as a devil, in the opinion of Eren Kruger the truth must be somewhere in between]].
10th Feb '17 3:04:23 PM Narsil
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** Averted in the ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia''. Aslan literally ''is'' Jesus. WordOfGod (unavoidable pun) is that Aslan is meant to be a hypothetical form that Jesus would appear in if He were to appear in a fantasy world. In one book the characters ask Aslan how they can continue to believe in him if he doesn't exist in their own world, but Aslan replies that he does, under a different name. This also means that the "Emperor Beyond the Sea", mentioned to be Aslan's father, would be the Abrahamic God Himself.
** ''Literature/TheSpaceTrilogy'' averts this in a similar way; Maleldil the Young is clearly implied to be merely the name for Christ in the alien language, not a separate being.

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** Averted in the ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia''. Aslan literally ''is'' Jesus. WordOfGod (unavoidable pun) is that just as God the Son became incarnate as Jesus in our world, so he became incarnate as Aslan is meant to be a hypothetical form that Jesus would appear in if He were to appear in a fantasy world.Narnia. In one book the characters ask Aslan how they can continue to believe in him if he doesn't exist in their own world, but Aslan replies that he does, under a different name. This also means that the "Emperor Beyond the Sea", mentioned to be Aslan's father, would be God the Abrahamic God Himself.
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** ''Literature/TheSpaceTrilogy'' averts this in a similar way; Maleldil the Young way. The protagonist initially thinks "Oyarsa" is clearly implied to be merely the name for Christ of the Martians' pagan god; as the first book progresses, he comes to understand that it's the title of the spiritual being that governs Mars, under the authority of God, called "Maleldil" in the alien language, not Martian language. The second book contains a separate being.reference to both "Maleldil" and "Maleldil the Young", presumably God the Father and God the Son.)
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