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4th Oct '17 10:07:45 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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*** Cecil is this for nearly his entire Dark Knight run. Once you lose Kain he'll be your only hard-hitting physical attacker (and likely the only one you keep in the front row) until you recruit Yang, making him essential for winning random battles as all your magic users at this point have vastly limited MP (Tellah can never go above 90, meaning he's limited to 18 casts of Fire, the weakest attack spell) and have physical attacks that can't even manage to hit most of the time. Ironically he becomes an inversion when you scale Mount Ordeals and the GenreSavvy Golbez sends the undead Scarmiglione and his minions, all of whom Cecil's dark sword can only manage 1 HP of damage against, to take him out.

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*** Cecil is this for nearly his entire Dark Knight run. Once you lose Kain he'll be your only hard-hitting physical attacker (and likely the only one you keep in the front row) until you recruit Yang, making him essential for winning random battles as all your magic users at this point have vastly limited MP (Tellah can never go above 90, meaning he's limited to 18 casts of Fire, the weakest attack spell) and have physical attacks that can't even manage to hit most of the time. Ironically he becomes an inversion when you scale Mount Ordeals and the GenreSavvy Golbez sends the undead Scarmiglione and his minions, all of whom Cecil's dark sword can only manage 1 HP of damage against, to take him out.



* The tabletop sports/wargame ''TabletopGame/BloodBowl'' have the Amazon and Norse teams. Both teams start with all their players having one of the best starter skills (Block for Norse and Dodge for Amazons), which gives them a huge advantage out the box ([[TacticalRockPaperScissors though not when fighting dwarves]]). Once the team value start increasing and the other teams are able to buy their players Block/Wrestle and Tackle, they lose that edge against teams with higher innate stats and a clearer game plan. Norse and Amazons are both playable at high-TV play (if not as good at it like certain other teams), but odds are they'll never ''see'' high-TV play because GenreSavvy Norse and Amazon coaches usually intentionally keep their teams' value at a range where they're still competitive.

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* The tabletop sports/wargame ''TabletopGame/BloodBowl'' have the Amazon and Norse teams. Both teams start with all their players having one of the best starter skills (Block for Norse and Dodge for Amazons), which gives them a huge advantage out the box ([[TacticalRockPaperScissors though not when fighting dwarves]]). Once the team value start increasing and the other teams are able to buy their players Block/Wrestle and Tackle, they lose that edge against teams with higher innate stats and a clearer game plan. Norse and Amazons are both playable at high-TV play (if not as good at it like certain other teams), but odds are they'll never ''see'' high-TV play because GenreSavvy savvy Norse and Amazon coaches usually intentionally keep their teams' value at a range where they're still competitive.
3rd Oct '17 8:58:13 PM TVT1234
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Miitopia}}'', the legendary [[spoiler:Great Sage]] will join your team once you enter Karkaton, who has moves like Giga Fire, which do triple-digit damage; and Panacea, which heals your entire party's HP; at a time your own Mage is likely still using Fire and Cure for less than half the effect. However, as a GuestStarPartyMember, [[spoiler:the Great Sage]] cannot gain any EXP and will leave the party shortly afterwards. He (or she) joins your team primarily because the protagonist is fighting alone at that point and, as there's a BossRush coming up, you'd likely be completely overwhelmed otherwise.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Miitopia}}'', the legendary [[spoiler:Great Sage]] will join your team once you enter Karkaton, who has moves like Giga Fire, Tower of Flame, which do does triple-digit damage; and Panacea, which heals your entire party's HP; at a time your own Mage is likely still using Fire and Cure for less than half the effect. However, as a GuestStarPartyMember, [[spoiler:the Great Sage]] cannot gain any EXP and will leave the party shortly afterwards. He (or she) joins your team primarily because the protagonist is fighting alone at that point and, as there's a BossRush coming up, you'd likely be completely overwhelmed otherwise.
28th Sep '17 8:46:48 AM MBG
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** The [[MagicKnight Mystic Ranger]] variant, found in ''Dragon Magazine,'' is one of these. For its first ten levels, it's essentially a Ranger with casting on par with a Wizard (and no Animal Companion, [[FakeBalance but ranger companions are crap anyway]]). Once it's gotten fifth-level spells, it basically stops advancing altogether. Magic is so powerful that the Mystic Ranger will still be [[GameBreaker a cut above most classes]], but it remains one of the only characters to outright end its casting progression so early.

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** The [[MagicKnight Mystic Ranger]] variant, found in ''Dragon Magazine,'' is one of these. For its first ten levels, levels (and with the Sword of the Arcane Order feat), it's essentially a Ranger with casting on par with a Wizard (and no Animal Companion, [[FakeBalance but ranger companions are crap anyway]]). Once it's gotten fifth-level spells, it basically stops advancing altogether. Magic is so powerful that the Mystic Ranger will still be [[GameBreaker a cut above most classes]], but it remains one of the only characters to outright end its casting progression so early.
26th Sep '17 8:34:11 AM N8han11
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*** That actually works on a couple levels. Zelos has better titles for stat growth (Gilgamesh in particular) and both moves and attacks faster than Kratos. At the end, Zelos is going to pass up Kratos in true Jagen fashion and be the better character... but of course, it's not like you had the option to use Kratos instead for most of the game.
23rd Sep '17 9:08:19 AM N8han11
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** Mankey in ''Pokemon Yellow''. Used primarily at the beginning of the game to get passed Brock due to learning Low Kick at level 9, but somewhat becomes fodder soon after.

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** Mankey in ''Pokemon Yellow''. Used Yellow'' has Mankey, who's used primarily at the beginning of the game to get passed Brock past [[DishingOutDirt Brock]] due to learning [[BareFistedMonk Low Kick Kick]] at level 9, but somewhat becomes fodder soon after.is likely to be replaced with a better Fighting-Type later on.
15th Sep '17 11:01:09 AM ZombieAladdin
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Miitopia}}'', the legendary [[spoiler:Great Sage]] will join your team once you enter Karkaton, who has moves like Giga Fire, which do triple-digit damage; and Panacea, which heals your entire party's HP; at a time your own Mage is likely still using Fire and Cure for less than half the effect. However, as a GuestStarPartyMember, [[spoiler:the Great Sage]] cannot gain any EXP and will leave the party shortly afterwards. He (or she) joins your team primarily because the protagonist is fighting alone at that point and, as there's a BossRush coming up, you'd likely be completely overwhelmed otherwise.



** Frieza is an extremely rare villain example. Because of how overwhelmingly powerful he is, most of his soldiers tend to rely on his strength to protect them and deter anyone from rebelling against the empire. Vegeta calls out Cui, Zarbon, and Dodoria for relaxing with Frieza and growing complacent and content while he fought on the front lines growing stronger. While those three remained relatively powerful, most within Frieza's army are only as strong as Raditz. Also, Cui and Dodoria did try to run to Frieza for help once Vegeta proved to be stronger than them. When Frieza is killed on Earth, his empire fell apart without him because none of his men had his strength or fear factor.

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** Frieza is an extremely rare villain example. Because of how overwhelmingly powerful he is, most of his soldiers tend to rely on his strength to protect them and deter anyone from rebelling against the empire. Vegeta calls out Cui, Zarbon, and Dodoria for relaxing with Frieza and growing complacent and content while he fought on the front lines growing stronger. While those three remained relatively powerful, most within Frieza's army are only as strong as Raditz. Also, Cui and Dodoria did try to run to Frieza for help once Vegeta proved to be stronger than them. When Frieza is killed on Earth, his empire fell apart without him because none of his men had his strength or fear factor. The very premise of ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' is that Frieza's henchmen, unable to sustain the empire without Frieza's menacing presence and overwhelming strength, brings him back to life.
31st Aug '17 2:02:47 PM HalcyonDayz
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** Zer0's Sniping tree features amazingly versatile skills early on (Accuracy Bonus? Check. Critical hit bonus? Check. Penetrating Critical hits with stupidly increasing damage PER enemy penetrated that can be performed with near enough any weapon AND highlights prime critical hit locations? Check. Check and Check.), however you go any deeper and you would be better off going into close combat rather than snipe the enemy.
** Zer0's Bloodshed (melee) tree is amazingly useful when you gain its final ability, allowing you to clear rooms of {{mooks}} with contemptible ease. Once you enter the endgame and start looking at taking on the end- and {{Bonus Boss}}es, however, you find that bloodshed is amazingly not-useful against anything you cannot OneHitKill, and in BonusBoss land and in ultimate vault hunter mode it's all about being able to stack that rapid-fire damage.

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** Zer0's [=Zer0=]'s Sniping tree features amazingly versatile skills early on (Accuracy Bonus? Check. Critical hit bonus? Check. Penetrating Critical hits with stupidly increasing damage PER enemy penetrated that can be performed with near enough any weapon AND highlights prime critical hit locations? Check. Check and Check.), however you go any deeper and you would be better off going into close combat rather than snipe the enemy.
** Zer0's [=Zer0=]'s Bloodshed (melee) tree is amazingly useful when you gain its final ability, allowing you to clear rooms of {{mooks}} with contemptible ease. Once you enter the endgame and start looking at taking on the end- and {{Bonus Boss}}es, however, you find that bloodshed is amazingly not-useful against anything you cannot OneHitKill, and in BonusBoss land and in ultimate vault hunter mode it's all about being able to stack that rapid-fire damage.
21st Aug '17 8:41:27 AM gophergiggles
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*** Cecil is this for nearly his entire Dark Knight run. Once you lose Kain he'll be your only hard-hitting physical attacker (and likely the only one you keep in the front row) until you recruit Yang, making him essential for winning random battles as all your magic users at this point have vastly limited MP (Tellah can never go above 90, meaning he's limited to 18 casts of Fire, the weakest attack spell) and have physical attacks that can't even manage to hit most of the time. Ironically he becomes an inversion when you scale Mount Ordeals and the GenreSavvy Golbez sends the undead Scarmiglione and his minions, all of whom Cecil's dark sword can only manage 1 HP of damage against, to take him out.
16th Aug '17 6:21:40 PM gophergiggles
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*** Believe it or not, ''Edward'' can be this. Yes he starts at a low level, yes he has crappy stats, and yes he has utterly worthless abilities. It's his ''weapon''. Being a projectile it does the same damage from the back row, but that's not what makes it valuable: it's nearly guaranteed to inflict status ailments on enemies at no cost (His initial harp inflicts sleep, and the one found in Antlion's den inflicts confuse). With a little bit of level grinding to boost his speed stat, you can utterly cripple the enemy party and pick them off without wasting Rydia's MP, and his low attack power actually becomes a benefit when equipped with the Lamia Harp as it guaranteed won't kill the enemies which are now attacking their allies instead of you.
11th Aug '17 1:04:47 PM TheWarioBros
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