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16th Dec '16 12:01:16 AM n0321
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* A ''[[ScrewDestiny mutable]]'' Crapsack World simply ''starts out'' as crappy, but a determined protagonist and his TrueCompanions, be they the [[KnightInShiningArmor Knight In Shining]] (or in many of these cases, [[KnightInSourArmour Sour]]) [[KnightInShiningArmor Armor]] or a simple old PI, can actually cause some, but mostly few, [[EarnYourHappyEnding positive changes in the setting]]. See also AWorldHalfFull. Examples: ''Film/Elysium'', ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'', ''Film/MadMax'', and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}''.

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* A ''[[ScrewDestiny mutable]]'' Crapsack World simply ''starts out'' as crappy, but a determined protagonist and his TrueCompanions, be they the [[KnightInShiningArmor Knight In Shining]] (or in many of these cases, [[KnightInSourArmour Sour]]) [[KnightInShiningArmor Armor]] or a simple old PI, can actually cause some, but mostly few, [[EarnYourHappyEnding positive changes in the setting]]. See also AWorldHalfFull. Examples: ''Film/Elysium'', ''Film/{{Elysium}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'', ''Film/MadMax'', and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}''.
16th Dec '16 12:00:50 AM n0321
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* A ''[[ScrewDestiny mutable]]'' Crapsack World simply ''starts out'' as crappy, but a determined protagonist and his TrueCompanions, be they the [[KnightInShiningArmor Knight In Shining]] (or in many of these cases, [[KnightInSourArmour Sour]]) [[KnightInShiningArmor Armor]] or a simple old PI, can actually cause some, but mostly few, [[EarnYourHappyEnding positive changes in the setting]]. See also AWorldHalfFull. Examples: ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'', ''Film/MadMax'', and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}''.

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* A ''[[ScrewDestiny mutable]]'' Crapsack World simply ''starts out'' as crappy, but a determined protagonist and his TrueCompanions, be they the [[KnightInShiningArmor Knight In Shining]] (or in many of these cases, [[KnightInSourArmour Sour]]) [[KnightInShiningArmor Armor]] or a simple old PI, can actually cause some, but mostly few, [[EarnYourHappyEnding positive changes in the setting]]. See also AWorldHalfFull. Examples: ''Film/Elysium'', ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'', ''Film/MadMax'', and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}''.
18th Nov '16 2:00:29 AM Yugnat
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* CrapsackWorld/VisualNovels
20th Sep '16 12:10:04 PM Angeldeb82
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[[caption-width-right:350:[[DespairEventHorizon No hope]]. [[AndIMustScream No release]]. [[FateWorseThanDeath No end]].]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:[[DespairEventHorizon No hope]]. hope.]] [[AndIMustScream No release]]. release.]] [[FateWorseThanDeath No end]].]]
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Although there are countless ways Crapsack Worlds can be depicted (often with SceneryGorn), it is usually [[DarkerAndEdgier dark]], on the Romantic end on the RomanticismVersusEnlightenment scale, and on the [[CynicismTropes cynical end]] of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism, so it will have either GreyAndGrayMorality or BlackAndGreyMorality, if not outright EvilVersusEvil in the worst of cases (beware of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy if you decide to go this route though). Settings like these are not kind at all to [[WideEyedIdealist idealists]], who usually get [[BreakTheCutie traumatized]] and/or [[CruelAndUnusualDeath die horribly]] when their attempts to change the world through idealism meet tragic ends.

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Although there are countless ways Crapsack Worlds can be depicted (often with SceneryGorn), it is usually [[DarkerAndEdgier dark]], {{dark|erAndEdgier}}, on the Romantic end on the RomanticismVersusEnlightenment scale, and on the [[CynicismTropes cynical end]] of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism, so it will have either GreyAndGrayMorality or BlackAndGreyMorality, BlackAndGrayMorality, if not outright EvilVersusEvil in the worst of cases (beware of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy if you decide to go this route though). Settings like these are not kind at all to [[WideEyedIdealist idealists]], who usually get [[BreakTheCutie traumatized]] and/or [[CruelAndUnusualDeath die horribly]] when their attempts to change the world through idealism meet tragic ends.
7th Sep '16 1:59:43 AM PaulA
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-->-- '''James Branch Cabell''', ''The Silver Stallion'', misattributed to '''Robert Oppenheimer'''

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-->-- '''James Branch Cabell''', '''Creator/JamesBranchCabell''', ''The Silver Stallion'', misattributed to '''Robert Oppenheimer'''
27th Jul '16 1:45:51 AM Shadowgazer
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''Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease This is a metaphysical trope that's clearly defined by the writer, not an opinion by people complaining about the world as a whole (localized places that '''are''' very horrible in Real Life should perhaps go to WretchedHive and other non-metaphysical tropes instead).'' Please also note that a Crapsack World will suck for everyone and everything. ''No one'' benefits or enjoys their existence in such a place, or, if they do, then it is only briefly.

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''Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease This is a metaphysical trope that's clearly defined by the writer, not an opinion by people complaining about the world as a whole (localized places that '''are''' very horrible in Real Life should perhaps go to WretchedHive and other non-metaphysical tropes instead).'' Please also note that a Crapsack World will suck for everyone and everything. ''No one'' benefits or enjoys their existence in such a place, or, if they do, then it is only briefly.''
28th Jun '16 5:07:37 AM Monolaf317
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* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. ''Tabletopgame/{{Paranoia}}'' is [[BlatantLies not an example of this in the slightest.]]

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* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', ''WesternAnimation/DrawnTogether'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. ''Tabletopgame/{{Paranoia}}'' is [[BlatantLies not an example of this in the slightest.]]
12th Mar '16 3:01:03 PM eroock
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->''The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds; the pessimist fears it is true.''
-->--'''James Branch Cabell''', ''The Silver Stallion'', misattributed to '''Robert Oppenheimer'''

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->''The ->''"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds; the pessimist fears it is true.''
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-->-- '''James
Branch Cabell''', ''The Silver Stallion'', misattributed to '''Robert Oppenheimer'''
3rd Mar '16 12:15:30 PM TheKoS
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* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. ''Tabletopgame/{{Paranoia}}'' is [[BlatantLies not an example of this in the slightest.]]

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* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. ''Tabletopgame/{{Paranoia}}'' is [[BlatantLies not an example of this in the slightest.]]
25th Jan '16 12:32:26 AM Zelot
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* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''.

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* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. ''Tabletopgame/{{Paranoia}}'' is [[BlatantLies not an example of this in the slightest.]]
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