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20th Jan '17 8:32:00 PM YgothanEru
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*** His family is another large reason for this. As mentioned above, msot of his older brothers are quite cool and all have accomplished or accomplishing many things in their own fields. This meants that Ron can't (or at least, feels like he can't) ever live up to them or find a particular skill that sets him apart. Even some of the things that make him "cool," like Quidditch, are things his brothers were already well-known for before him. Throw in that his other best friend is a verifiable genius and he's just generally OvershadowedByAwesome. Hinted at by his looking in the Mirror of Erised, which reveals hisdesire to surpass them all and explored by how the above two gives him some self-esteem issues (that the Horcrux in Book 7 exploits ''viciously.'')

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*** His family is another large reason for this. As mentioned above, msot most of his older brothers are quite cool and all have accomplished or are accomplishing many things in their own fields. This meants means that Ron can't (or at least, least feels like he can't) ever live up to them or find a particular skill that sets him apart. Even some of the things that make him "cool," like Quidditch, are things his brothers were already well-known for before him. Throw in that his other best friend is a verifiable genius and he's just generally OvershadowedByAwesome. Hinted at by his looking in the Mirror of Erised, which reveals hisdesire his desire to surpass them all and explored by how the above two gives him some self-esteem issues (that the Horcrux in Book 7 exploits ''viciously.'')
20th Jan '17 8:26:23 PM YgothanEru
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*** In ''Goblet of Fire'' he's ostracized for entering the Triwizard contest ("Harry is a cheating cheater!"). Though it's mroe of Malfoy and his cronies promoting this and once Harry compeltes the First Task, most of the issues die down.
*** In ''Order of the Phoenix,'' he defended himself and DUdley from Dementors and due to the events of the last book, he and Dumbledore have begun getting slandered by he Ministry of Magic and various others.

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*** In ''Goblet of Fire'' he's ostracized for entering the Triwizard contest ("Harry is a cheating cheater!"). Though it's mroe more of Malfoy and his cronies promoting this and once Harry compeltes completes the First Task, most of the issues die down.
*** In ''Order of the Phoenix,'' he defended himself and DUdley Dudley from Dementors and due to the events of the last book, he and Dumbledore have begun getting slandered by he the Ministry of Magic and various others.
19th Dec '16 3:00:48 AM ectostar
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* ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'': While Tucker and Sam fit the bill, Danny seems to be bigger loser than both put together for no other reason than the sake of it. That and to allot for a lot of scenes with the JerkJock/school bully. His parents' reputation as [[AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents loony ghost hunters]] may have something to do with it.

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* ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'': While Tucker and Sam fit the bill, Danny seems to be bigger loser than both put together for no other reason than the sake of it. That and to allot for a lot of scenes with the JerkJock/school bully.JerkJock and[=/=]or TheBully. His parents' reputation as [[AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents loony ghost hunters]] may have something to do with it.
30th Oct '16 3:59:19 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''SpiderMan'': Peter Parker is (to the reader) a handsome, highly intelligent, funny guy who used to be HappilyMarried to a [[HeroesWantRedheads stunning red-haired supermodel]], and now is a relatively successful freelance photographer (he was retconned to have won a pulitzer for his picture taking skills). In real life, he'd be amazingly popular. In MarvelUniverse Manhattan, though, he's all but completely ostracized from his peers because...well...he's [[ThisLoserIsYou Peter Parker]]. Though it's more true, to varying degrees, in adaptations like ''Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan'' and various animated series that focus on his highschool life; in the original comics, he was only really ostracized when he was a teenager, and during that time he was a very shy kid prone to glaring angrily at the In-Crowd while muttering how they'll all learn one day. Once he grew up and actually ''became'' handsome and funny, did he get friends. It's only after One More Day that he became this, when it removed his marriage, his career, and his social skills and had everyone treat him like crap for no apparent reason. Then it's changed by the new Big Time era, complete with his alter ego Spider-Man beginning to become a trusted and respected hero amongst New York.
* In the ''XMenEvolution'' tie in comics, written by Devin Grayson, in that twice people refer to the Xavier kids as freaks or make a deal about how 'weird' they are...despite the fact that Jean is shown to be VERY popular in the actual TV series, and Scott and Kurt, while not shown as particularly popular, are shown to be very good at [[NiceGuy making girls dig them]]. While it's once mentioned that Jean is considered 'Ok', and someone makes reference to having a crush on Scott, it really comes off as weird that it's made into a minor plot point despite it never coming up in the series... until TheReveal, but the comics are based before that happening.

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* ''SpiderMan'': ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': Peter Parker is (to the reader) a handsome, highly intelligent, funny guy who used to be HappilyMarried to a [[HeroesWantRedheads stunning red-haired supermodel]], and now is a relatively successful freelance photographer (he was retconned to have won a pulitzer for his picture taking skills). In real life, he'd be amazingly popular. In MarvelUniverse Manhattan, though, he's all but completely ostracized from his peers because...well...he's [[ThisLoserIsYou Peter Parker]]. Though it's more true, to varying degrees, in adaptations like ''Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan'' and various animated series that focus on his highschool life; in the original comics, he was only really ostracized when he was a teenager, and during that time he was a very shy kid prone to glaring angrily at the In-Crowd while muttering how they'll all learn one day. Once he grew up and actually ''became'' handsome and funny, did he get friends. It's only after One More Day that he became this, when it removed his marriage, his career, and his social skills and had everyone treat him like crap for no apparent reason. Then it's changed by the new Big Time era, complete with his alter ego Spider-Man beginning to become a trusted and respected hero amongst New York.
* In the ''XMenEvolution'' ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'' tie in comics, written by Devin Grayson, in that twice people refer to the Xavier kids as freaks or make a deal about how 'weird' they are...despite the fact that Jean is shown to be VERY popular in the actual TV series, and Scott and Kurt, while not shown as particularly popular, are shown to be very good at [[NiceGuy making girls dig them]]. While it's once mentioned that Jean is considered 'Ok', and someone makes reference to having a crush on Scott, it really comes off as weird that it's made into a minor plot point despite it never coming up in the series... until TheReveal, but the comics are based before that happening.
30th Oct '16 3:58:35 AM Morgenthaler
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* Kazuya Jonouchi (Joey Wheeler) after his HeelFaceTurn in ''Anime/YuGiOh''. He's fairly attractive, friendly, and a pretty {{Badass}} duelist, and yet is constantly the target of bullying and [[ButtMonkey mean-spirited jokes]] from [[BadassNormal professional duelists and arc enemies]], [[TheRival Kaiba]], and even (until ''his'' HeelFaceTurn) [[EvilPowerVacuum Honda]] (Tristan Taylor).

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* Kazuya Jonouchi (Joey Wheeler) after his HeelFaceTurn in ''Anime/YuGiOh''. He's fairly attractive, friendly, and a pretty {{Badass}} badass duelist, and yet is constantly the target of bullying and [[ButtMonkey mean-spirited jokes]] from [[BadassNormal professional duelists and arc enemies]], [[TheRival Kaiba]], and even (until ''his'' HeelFaceTurn) [[EvilPowerVacuum Honda]] (Tristan Taylor).
27th Oct '16 7:45:25 PM JoeMerl
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* PlayedWith in ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw.'' Despite the main character being [[{{Adorkable}} kind of dorky]] and [[BornUnlucky plagued with bad luck]], he's so [[AllLovingHero unbelievable nice]] that everybody at school (except for [[TheCynic Bradley]]) is actually really friendly with him. [[TheJinx They just prefer to be friendly from a few feet away]], which is why [[UnfazedEveryman Melissa]] and [[OnlySaneMan Zack]] are his only really close friends.

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* PlayedWith in ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw.'' Despite the main character being [[{{Adorkable}} kind of dorky]] and [[BornUnlucky plagued with bad luck]], he's so [[AllLovingHero unbelievable nice]] that everybody at school (except for [[TheCynic Bradley]]) is actually really friendly with him. (Except for [[TheCynic Bradley]], but even he's not too rude to his face.) [[TheJinx They just prefer to be friendly from a few feet away]], which is why [[UnfazedEveryman Melissa]] and [[OnlySaneMan Zack]] are his only really close friends.
27th Oct '16 7:44:30 PM JoeMerl
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* PlayedWith in ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw.'' Despite the main character being [[{{Adorkable}} kind of dorky]] and [[BornUnlucky plagued with bad luck]], he's so [[AllLovingHero unbelievable nice]] that everybody at school (except for [[TheCynic Bradley]]) is actually really friendly with him. [[TheJinx They just prefer to be friendly from a few feet away]], which is why [[UnfazedEveryman Melissa]] and [[OnlySaneMan Zack]] are his only really close friends.
8th Oct '16 1:02:19 PM DVB
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** Harry's famous, a pretty nice guy, and is regarded as a hero. Yet in ''Chamber of Secrets'' he's ostracized because he can talk to snakes, in ''Goblet of Fire'' he's ostracized for entering the Triwizard contest ("Harry is a cheating cheater!"), and in the next book he's looked down on because he's the only one who notices ''there's a frickin' war going on.'' In the sixth book, he ''does'' become hugely popular, but finds it annoying.
** Ron. By the age of 13, he's helped Harry defeat Voldemort (in one form or another) twice, and has been given an award for special services to the school. He's a DeadpanSnarker who's best friends with the ChosenOne, his brothers are all ultra-cool (Except for Percy. Nothing can make him cool), and it's implied that he's at least moderately attractive. While he isn't a straight-A student, he's not described as stupid by any measure. ''And'' he fights a bunch of adult Death Eaters, and becomes star player in a cup-winning House Quidditch team. He's still not treated as particularly cool though. Apart from Harry, Ron should be the most popular kid in school among everyone but the Slytherins. Explained by Hermione in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire Goblet of Fire]]'' that Ron gets pushed off to one side in favour of Harry because of Harry's fame. Besides the other students in their year who have classes with them and some friends of Ginny's, no one spends enough time with Harry or Ron to realise that Ron is cool too - they're just in awe of Harry. His family is another problem. As mentioned above, all of his older brothers are ultra-cool, but Ron can't (or at least, feels like he can't) ever live up to them or find a particular skill that sets him apart. Even some of the things that make him "cool," like Quidditch, are things his brothers were already well-known for before him. Throw in that his other best friend is a verifiable genius and he's just generally OvershadowedByAwesome.

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** Harry's famous, a pretty nice guy, and is regarded as a hero. Yet in However, various reasons pop up for his unpopularity:
*** In
''Chamber of Secrets'' he's ostracized because he can talk to snakes, in snakes (an ability called Parseltongue). However, the ability is associated with Salazar Slytherin, who wasn't the nicest of people and the ability tends to be associated with deviants.
*** In
''Goblet of Fire'' he's ostracized for entering the Triwizard contest ("Harry is a cheating cheater!"), cheater!"). Though it's mroe of Malfoy and in his cronies promoting this and once Harry compeltes the next book he's looked down on because he's First Task, most of the only one who notices ''there's a frickin' war going on.'' issues die down.
***
In ''Order of the Phoenix,'' he defended himself and DUdley from Dementors and due to the events of the last book, he and Dumbledore have begun getting slandered by he Ministry of Magic and various others.
*** Inverted in
the sixth book, he ''does'' become hugely popular, but finds it annoying.
annoying and exhaustive to deal with.
** Ron. By the age of 13, he's helped Harry defeat Voldemort (in one form or another) twice, and has been given an award for special services to the school. He's a DeadpanSnarker who's best friends with the ChosenOne, his brothers are all ultra-cool (Except for Percy. Nothing can make him cool), and it's implied that he's at least moderately attractive. While he isn't a straight-A student, he's not described as stupid by any measure. ''And'' he fights a bunch of adult Death Eaters, and becomes a star player in a cup-winning House Quidditch team. He's still not treated as particularly cool though. Apart from Harry, Ron should be the most popular kid in school among everyone but the Slytherins. Slytherins.
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Explained by Hermione in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire Goblet of Fire]]'' that Ron gets pushed off to one side in favour of Harry because of Harry's fame. Besides the other students in their year who have classes with them and some friends of Ginny's, no one spends enough time with Harry or Ron to realise that Ron is cool too - they're just in awe of Harry. Harry.
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His family is another problem. large reason for this. As mentioned above, all msot of his older brothers are ultra-cool, but quite cool and all have accomplished or accomplishing many things in their own fields. This meants that Ron can't (or at least, feels like he can't) ever live up to them or find a particular skill that sets him apart. Even some of the things that make him "cool," like Quidditch, are things his brothers were already well-known for before him. Throw in that his other best friend is a verifiable genius and he's just generally OvershadowedByAwesome. Hinted at by his looking in the Mirror of Erised, which reveals hisdesire to surpass them all and explored by how the above two gives him some self-esteem issues (that the Horcrux in Book 7 exploits ''viciously.'')
8th Oct '16 12:50:04 PM DVB
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* Bianca from ''Film/TheDuff'' is intelligent and good-looking -- and the movie doesn't try to kid the audience she's not -- and isn't even necessarily unpopular. She is just friends with two girls who are more popular than her, which makes her a loser ''by comparison''.

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* Bianca from ''Film/TheDuff'' is intelligent and good-looking -- and the movie doesn't try to kid the audience she's not -- and isn't even necessarily unpopular. She In an exploration of the trope, she is just friends with two girls who are more popular than her, which makes her only considered to a loser ''by comparison''.comparison'' to her more conventionally attractive popular friends, hence she is desginated (by the the student budy, not her friends), the "duff" of the group.
1st Oct '16 8:33:30 PM ectostar
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* ''TotalDrama'': Noah seems to be an [[InvertedTrope inversion]]: he's a TeenGenius, AmbiguouslyGay DeadpanSnarker, all of which could theoretically make him treated like a loser, but [[AllThereInTheManual his official bio and entry video]] show that he's class president and seems to be popular at his school, in part because he's smart enough to get on people's good side.

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* ''TotalDrama'': Noah seems to be an [[InvertedTrope inversion]]: he's a TeenGenius, AmbiguouslyGay and DeadpanSnarker, all of which could theoretically make him treated like a loser, but [[AllThereInTheManual his official bio and entry video]] show that he's class president and seems to be popular at his school, in part because he's smart enough to get on people's good side.
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