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* Fans of ''TheSalvationWar'' often hold that anyone who dislikes any aspect of the work hasn't read it, or hasn't read it carefully enough (thorough examination of everything related to the series appears to be required here). Anyone who does is told that they should READ IT, even when critiquing specific aspects of the plot they found they disliked while, um, reading it.

* A rebuff of ''any'' criticism of a multiplayer game is typically, "Suck less".

** With the "Like/Dislike" feature (created in 2010), an influx of users inevitably comment on any video that doesn't have a 100% perfect "like" rating. This leads to comments like "(number of people who disliked video) (veiled insult)" (e.g. "25 people need to get their heads checked because they don't know how good this is!"). This would be tolerable if it were a small-scale act, but the number of people commenting on the number of dislikes on a video has become a widespread phenomenon throughout the site (almost to the point of becoming a MemeticMutation).

* Fans of ''TheSalvationWar'' often hold that anyone who dislikes any aspect of the work hasn't read it, or hasn't read it carefully enough (thorough examination of everything related to the series appears to be required here). Anyone who does is told that they should READ IT, even when critiquing specific aspects of the plot they found they disliked while, um, reading it.

* On TVTropes, articles relating to FanDumb (like the former UnpleasableFanbase page) occasionally attract this.

** Andrew Hussie of MSPaintAdventures has responded to people not liking {{Homestuck}} [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks because it is not like]] ProblemSleuth [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/781027547 with]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?32178-Anyone-else-think-Hussie-should-cut-down-on-the-Pesterlogs-a-bit&p=4125631&viewfull=1#post4125631 several]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3857423&viewfull=1#post3857423 essays']] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3859169&viewfull=1#post3859169 worth]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/750738682 of]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/780995992 rant]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3859225&viewfull=1#post3859225 that]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1158778979 all]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1093953142 boil]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1093935286 down]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1001292582 to]] "I'm doing it the way I want. [[DontLikeDontRead If you don't like Homestuck, don't read it.]]" "Go read Problem Sleuth" has become a stock fan response to complaints, which [[InsaneTrollLogic of course]] means that [[DoubleStandard the fans are all incredibly dogmatic]].

* On TVTropes, articles relating to FanDumb (like the former UnpleasableFanbase page) occasionally attracts this.

** Andrew Hussie of MSPaintAdventures has responded to people not liking {{Homestuck}} [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks because it is not like]] ProblemSleuth [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/781027547 with]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?32178-Anyone-else-think-Hussie-should-cut-down-on-the-Pesterlogs-a-bit&p=4125631&viewfull=1#post4125631 several]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3857423&viewfull=1#post3857423 essays']] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3859169&viewfull=1#post3859169 worth]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/750738682 of]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/780995992 rant]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3859225&viewfull=1#post3859225 that]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1158778979 all]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1093953142 boil]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1093935286 down]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1001292582 to]] "I'm doing it the way I want. [[DontLikeDontRead If you don't like Homestuck, don't read it.]]" "Go read Problem Sleuth" has become a stock fan response to complaints, which [[InsaneTrollLogic of course]] means that [[DoubleStandard the fans are all incredibly dogmatic]].

* Fans of ''TheSalvationWar'' often hold that anyone who dislikes any aspect of the work hasn't read it, or hasn't read it carefully enough. Anyone who does is told that they should READ IT, even when critiquing specific aspects of the plot.
* Andrew Hussie of MSPaintAdventures has responded to people not liking {{Homestuck}} [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks because it is not like]] ProblemSleuth [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/781027547 with]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?32178-Anyone-else-think-Hussie-should-cut-down-on-the-Pesterlogs-a-bit&p=4125631&viewfull=1#post4125631 several]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3857423&viewfull=1#post3857423 essays']] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3859169&viewfull=1#post3859169 worth]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/750738682 of]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/780995992 rant]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3859225&viewfull=1#post3859225 that]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1158778979 all]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1093953142 boil]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1093935286 down]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1001292582 to]] "I'm doing it the way I want. [[DontLikeDontRead If you don't like Homestuck, don't read it.]]" "Go read Problem Sleuth" has become a stock fan response to complaints, which [[InsaneTrollLogic of course]] means that [[DoubleStandard the fans are all incredibly dogmatic]].

* Fans of ''TheSalvationWar'' often hold that anyone who dislikes any aspect of the work hasn't read it, or hasn't read it carefully enough. Anyone who does is told that they should READ IT, even when critiquing specific aspects of the plot.There is, however, a good reason for this in that the overwhelming majority of said critics have painfully obviously not read the stories in question and their "critiques of specific aspects of the plot" are either answered within the stories or refer to plot developments that don't actually exist.

* Fans of ''TheSalvationWar'' often hold that anyone who dislikes any aspect of the work hasn't read it, or hasn't read it carefully enough. Anyone who does is told that they should READ IT, even when critiquing specific aspects of the plot.

* Fans of ''TheSalvationWar'' often hold that anyone who dislikes any aspect of the work hasn't read it, or hasn't read it carefully enough. Anyone who does is told that they should READ IT, even when critiquing specific aspects of the plot. There is, however, a good reason for this in that the overwhelming majority of said critics have painfully obviously not read the stories in question and their "critiques of specific aspects of the plot" are either answered within the stories or refer to plot developments that don't actually exist.

* Andrew Hussie of MSPaintAdventures has responded to people not liking {{Homestuck}} [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks because it is not like]] ProblemSleuth [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/781027547 with]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?32178-Anyone-else-think-Hussie-should-cut-down-on-the-Pesterlogs-a-bit&p=4125631&viewfull=1#post4125631 several]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3857423&viewfull=1#post3857423 essays']] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3859169&viewfull=1#post3859169 worth]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/750738682 of]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/780995992 rant]] [[http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?29915-Pester-Chum-s-are-too-long!!&p=3859225&viewfull=1#post3859225 that]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1158778979 all]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1093953142 boil]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1093935286 down]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1001292582 to]] "I'm doing it the way I want. [[DontLikeDontRead If you don't like Homestuck, don't read it.]]"

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* Fans of ''TheSalvationWar'' often hold that anyone who dislikes any aspect of the work hasn't read it, or hasn't read it carefully enough. Anyone who does is told that they should READ IT, even when critiquing specific aspects of the plot.

** With the "Like/Dislike" feature (created in 2010), an influx of users inevitably comment on any video that doesn't have a 100% perfect "like" rating. This leads to comments like "(number of dislikes) people (veiled insult)" (e.g. "25 people need to get their heads checked because they don't know how good this is!"). This would be fine if it were small-scale, but the act of commenting on the number of dislikes on a video has become a widespread phenomenon throughout the site (almost to the point of becoming a MemeticMutation).

* Many popular films on YouTube. You are allowed to only post a comment that expresses pure admiration (or is just a random quote from the film). If you dare to point out even the slightest flaw of the film (even if you applaud the film in the same comment), your comment will be downvoted to kingdom come by the rabid fans.

*** Many of these "Then quit the game" are rightfully people who have, for some reason, [[HateDumb been whining on the board for years about how the game was]] RuinedFOREVER back around [[NostalgiaFilter Patch x.xx]] and have [[HateDumb supposedly found better games...yet seem to keep on coming back]]. Or flat-out {{Troll}}s who simply go in there to stir up trouble.

* While the ''Twilight'' {{Hatedom}} is quite fanatical themselves, the ''Twilight'' fans themselves can be extremely rabid. One such fan [[http://www.amazon.com/For-The-Lurker-Lilith/forum/Fx1GAA6GYWX8459/Tx2WUTB4ZT9C4R/1/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?_encoding=UTF8&asin=031606792X&cdSort=oldest wished miscarriage]] on an Anti (it later came out that it wasn't even the 15-year-old girl, it was ''her mother'' using her account). Keep in mind that while this violence ''has'' happened on some occasions, most examples should be taken with a ''tablespoon'' of salt given the widespread [[FanHaters Fan hating]] around Twilight. And since all the stories of actual violence seem to all lead back to the same anti-Twilight site and never, oh, the news or a police report, it's probably safe to assume that so-called "''Twilight'' violence" is mostly a myth greatly exaggerated by an anti-fandom that wants to feel as persecuted as the sparkly vampire fandom that spawned them.

** Kotaku fell into this, destarring and banning a number of posters that in any way criticized the site, especially if posters complained about the increasing amount of non-game related content (such as articles about fish with mustaches). Probably the best example was when the owner of a Kotaku fan forum was inexplicably banned after first losing his star a few days earlier for posting an open letter to the editors. Chaos ensued, many users were banned in an event now jokingly known as the Kotakulypse. Eventually things calmed down and an official channel for criticisms was opened.

** Kotaku fell into this, destarring and banning a number of posters that in any way criticized the site, especially if posters complained about the increasing amount of non-game related content (such as articles about fish with mustaches). One prominent example of this came about when the owner of a ''Kotaku fan forum'' was destarred after posting an extremely respectful criticism of the site's increased focus on non-game content. One of their former staff members who ironically used to moderate Kotaku's comments without pay was similarly destarred for upsetting an editor's feelings. This hit a crescendo during one of Kotaku's "ban Mondays" (now jokingly referred to as the "Kotakulypse") when said owner was banned with no official reason given. This led quite a few notable kotaku commenters to protest, and snowballed into an almost "full-scale riot" in the comment sections. Mass bannings were handed out by interns, as well as a record number of posts being disemvoweled for little to no reason. The situation was calmed by the chief editor finally addressing valid concerns in the "Talk amongst yourselves" section and another editor taking an informal Q&A session in the unofficial group Steam chat. Since then, the only people left on the site are the {{Lickspittle}}s or the few that somehow avoid the hammer.

** Kotaku fell into this, destarring and banning a number of posters that in any way criticized the site, especially if posters complained about the increasing amount of non-game related content (such as articles about fish with mustaches). One prominent example of this came about when the owner of a ''Kotaku fan forum'' was destarred after posting an extremely respectful criticism of the site's increased focus on non-game content. One of their former staff members who ironically used to moderate Kotaku's comments without pay was similarly destarred for upsetting an editor's feelings. This hit a crescendo during one of Kotaku's "ban Mondays" (now jokingly referred to as the "Kotakolypse") when a record number of prominent site contributors were banned simply for talking, at all, that day, entirely because the editors had grudges against them. Since then, the only people left on the site are the {{Lickspittle}}s or the few that somehow avoid the hammer.

* Anyone on the [[http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?sel=usenet%3Drec.arts.comics.dc rec.arts.comics.dc]] {{Usenet}} newsgroup or the ''YoungJustice'' message board at Alvaro's during the relevant time period will likely remember the Great Young Justice [[FlameWar Flamewar]] of 1998. This was caused by one fan's deciding to indulge in what was likely the single stubbornest display of his very stubborn life, by absolutely refusing to quit posting '' no matter what'' until the attempts to stifle his criticisms of [[{{PeterDavid}} PAD's]] change of direction on the title (culminating in the 'Sins of Youth' storyline) and drown out any complaining by sheer force of FanDumb ceased. (It helped that Usenet was an unmoderated forum, yes) End result: two {{Take That}}s written into the comic itself by the author aimed squarely at the stubborn individual in question, several megabytes and several dozen extremely long argument threads cluttering up the archives of at least two forums, three attempted bannings from Alvaro's (all overruled because the board moderator couldn't show the site admins where the poster was actually breaking any board rules), PeterDavid's eventual declaration of an "Internet death certificate" (read: He would pretend the stubborn individual in question simply did not exist, and encourage all others to do likewise) and general ill feelings all around. "Fortunately" the stubborn fan's predictions of doom and decline in the storyline came true several months later, he thusly stopped reading the comic at all, and thus had to stop posting about it.

* On {{deviantART}}, most people will hate you if you use the comment box to actually comment instead of undying appraisal of whatever was done. Even if you're being nice and are trying to help the artist, you'll be considered a flamer if you don't give a "THIS IS AWESOME" comment. Unfortunately, some people will actually block you if you favorite without comment, because on to some people on dA, favoriting without commenting is a worse sin than not giving a completely positive review. So in some circles, it's either give perfect reviews to every pic you like in the slightest or gtfo.

** Also subverted: some artists will call you a suck-up and ban you from commenting if you don't AccentuateTheNegative.