History Main / CircularReasoning

25th Mar '16 2:51:07 PM Josef5678
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* In VideoGame/RatchetAndClankGoingCommando, Ratchet and Clank come across a Circular Reasoning logic puzzle [[ContrivedCoincidence in the middle of nowhere inside of a desert cavern.]] The "puzzle" consists of using an upgraded wrench, currently encased in glass, to gain a rock which is also encased in glass, in order to break the glass containing the wrench. Clank is amused by the challenge and briefly tries to deduce how to solve it, but its obvious that since each requires the other, it's impossible without TakingAThirdOption, [[CuttingTheKnot which Ratchet does by using his own wrench]].

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* In VideoGame/RatchetAndClankGoingCommando, ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClankGoingCommando'', Ratchet and Clank come across a Circular Reasoning logic puzzle [[ContrivedCoincidence in the middle of nowhere inside of a desert cavern.]] The "puzzle" consists of using an upgraded wrench, currently encased in glass, to gain a rock which is also encased in glass, in order to break the glass containing the wrench. Clank is amused by the challenge and briefly tries to deduce how to solve it, but its obvious that since each requires the other, it's impossible without TakingAThirdOption, [[CuttingTheKnot which Ratchet does by using his own wrench]].
25th Mar '16 10:02:26 AM Prinzenick
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* In VideoGame/RatchetAndClankGoingCommando, Ratchet and Clank come across a Circular Reasoning logic puzzle [[ContrivedCoincidence in the middle of nowhere inside of a desert cavern.]] The "puzzle" consists of using an upgraded wrench, currently encased in glass, to gain a rock which is also encased in glass, in order to break the glass containing the wrench. Clank is amused by the challenge and briefly tries to deduce how to solve it, but its obvious that since each requires the other, it's impossible without TakingAThirdOption, [[CuttingTheKnot which Ratchet does by using his own wrench]].
18th Mar '16 3:01:14 PM Josef5678
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* Used as an insult in ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20081231 here]].

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* %%* Used as an insult in ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20081231 here]].
18th Mar '16 3:00:50 PM Josef5678
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* On ''[[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Order of the Stick]]'': Though she ultimately turns out to be right, Elan points out that Haley is using circular logic against Tarquin: She won't tell him that lives are at stake concerning the information she wants because she doesn't trust him, and she doesn't trust him because he's withholding information when lives are at stake. [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0747.html Haley is not pleased]] at having been out-logicked by TheDitz.

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* On ''[[Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick Order of the Stick]]'': ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
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Though she ultimately turns out to be right, Elan points out that Haley is using circular logic against Tarquin: She won't tell him that lives are at stake concerning the information she wants because she doesn't trust him, and she doesn't trust him because he's withholding information when lives are at stake. [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0747.html Haley is not pleased]] at having been out-logicked by TheDitz.
18th Mar '16 2:59:43 PM Josef5678
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* The "gay employees are security risks" (seen under Real Life) was used in ''{{Film/Clue}}'' as the reason for Mr. Green's blackmail material.

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* %%* The "gay employees are security risks" (seen under Real Life) was used in ''{{Film/Clue}}'' as the reason for Mr. Green's blackmail material.



* In the late 20th century, the then (Tory) government of the UK refused to legalise cannabis on the grounds that "it leads to hard drugs". This is the same "logic" as used in the ''Webcomic/TheNonAdventuresOfWonderella'' in Web Comics above; all evidence is that cannabis leads to hard drugs solely and precisely ''because'' it's illegal. If the only way to vote Tory was to visit your local pusher, voting Tory would lead to hard drugs.

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* In the late 20th century, the then (Tory) government of the UK refused to legalise cannabis on the grounds that "it leads to hard drugs". This is the same "logic" as used in the ''Webcomic/TheNonAdventuresOfWonderella'' in Web Comics above; all All evidence is that cannabis leads to hard drugs solely and precisely ''because'' it's illegal. If the only way to vote Tory was to visit your local pusher, voting Tory would lead to hard drugs.
6th Mar '16 3:35:48 PM Dragon101
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** The circular reasoning here isn't actually that the fundamentalist is right because God is right, but rather that God is right because he's God. The "I'm right because I do things in His name" is a logical fallacy.

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** The circular reasoning here isn't actually that the fundamentalist is right because God is right, but rather that God is right because he's God. The "I'm right because I do things in His name" is a logical fallacy. Of course, theologians throughout history have come up with any number of elaborate and sophisticated arguments concerning this, but TheFundamentalist is rarely a very good theologian.
15th Jan '16 5:53:18 AM Klon
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* Used by certain Men's Rights activists in an attempt to discredit feminism: feminists are dumb because sexism and misogyny aren't real, sexism and misogyny aren't real because there's no evidence supporting their existence, the ridiculous amount of evidence proving that misogyny and sexism still exist is clearly falsified because the reports come to the conclusion that misogyny is real which it isn't, because there no evidence supporting...
22nd Dec '15 12:53:59 PM Discar
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* ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'': PlayedForLaughs when Sherlock is [[SherlockScan scanning]] John.
-->'''Sherlock:''' You have a limp, which your therapist believes is psychosomatic--\\
'''John:''' How do you know I have a therapist?\\
'''Sherlock:''' You have a psychosomatic limp; of ''course'' you have a therapist.
4th Nov '15 12:27:06 AM BattleMaster
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* A fundamental part of any conspiracy is that the evidence supporting the theory doesn't exist because the ones responsible are suppressing the evidence. The lack of evidence proves their guilt, because if they weren't guilty they wouldn't have any reason to hide the evidence.
30th Oct '15 11:51:46 PM Kimarous
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