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9th Dec '16 10:37:05 AM Kalaong
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* Don't mention this trope to [[ComicBook/TheBoys The Frenchman]]. He'll point out the fact that you personally, even if you're American, did not in any way "save" France from the Germans, then school you on most of the meat of this article, and then he'll rip out your eyes and feed them to you.
5th Dec '16 11:51:18 AM Morgenthaler
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* Thoroughly {{Averted}} in ''Series/DeadliestWarrior''. French warriors are always described and depicted as extremely {{Badass}}, especially the French Musketeers who are described as crazy, fancy {{Chick Magnet}} medieval special forces, [[spoiler:and back up their description by destroying their Ming Warrior opponents by 670-230 in the simulation]]. Not to mention Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte, [[spoiler:who, respectively, [[UnderdogsNeverLose defeats William the Conqueror]], and loses against George Washington by a margin so close that any sane man would call it a tie]].

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* Thoroughly {{Averted}} in ''Series/DeadliestWarrior''. French warriors are always described and depicted as extremely {{Badass}}, badass, especially the French Musketeers who are described as crazy, fancy {{Chick Magnet}} medieval special forces, [[spoiler:and back up their description by destroying their Ming Warrior opponents by 670-230 in the simulation]]. Not to mention Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte, [[spoiler:who, respectively, [[UnderdogsNeverLose defeats William the Conqueror]], and loses against George Washington by a margin so close that any sane man would call it a tie]].
30th Nov '16 3:37:48 AM Morgenthaler
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* The TropeNamer is Groundskeeper Willie from ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' in 1995 with the episode ''[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS6E22RoundSpringfield Round Springfield]]''. Having been forced to sub as a French teacher, the brief snippet of his "lesson" plays out as follows:

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
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The TropeNamer is Groundskeeper Willie from ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' in 1995 with the episode ''[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS6E22RoundSpringfield Round Springfield]]''. Having been forced to sub as a French teacher, the brief snippet of his "lesson" plays out as follows:



* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "Fatbeard": "They're French, so they surrendered immediately." The fact that they surrendered to a nine-year-old with ''[[ExaggeratedTrope a plastic lightsabre]]'' is damning even by the standards of this trope.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'':
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episode "Fatbeard": "They're French, so they surrendered immediately." The fact that they surrendered to a nine-year-old with ''[[ExaggeratedTrope a plastic lightsabre]]'' is damning even by the standards of this trope.
30th Nov '16 3:36:28 AM Morgenthaler
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The collective enthusiasm of the French for warfare lasted well into the first few months of World War One, which the French government chose to escalate into a global war when it took the opportunity to work together with Russia to destroy Germany. Unfortunately Russian disorganisation and infighting rendered their strength somewhat hollow, and so France ended up losing a comparable number of people (1.4 versus c.2 million) despite having just a third of the population (50 versus 160 million).[[note]] Interestingly, the grand total of US soldiers killed in ''all'' her military conflicts to date is about 1.3 million. Despite a few extra centuries of history, Britain is only slightly further head for a total nearing 2 million.[[/note]] On top of that another 4 million of a surviving total male population of 25 million (of all ages) were physically and [[ShellShockedVeteran mentally]] scarred, and the Spanish Flu of 1918-1919 went on to kill ''twice as many as had died in the war''. The raw and unadulterated ''hatred'' most French people bore by the war's end against France's civilian-military leadership for starting and 'prolonging' the war (by insisting on a total victory) was immense, with films such as Film/PathsOfGlory barely doing it justice. By 1920 France had lost a greater proportion of her male population than ''any other combatant'' (including Russia, which went on to suffer [[RedOctober the Russian Civil War]]). So much of France's 'first rate' manpower (physically fit men of average or better intelligence) was lost that the army she fielded in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII was actually ''smaller'' than the one she had in 1918, and the total population had barely changed since then either.[[note]] That said, in World War Two 'a great big gap where the forty-something year old conscripts should be' was a problem for ''all'' the former combatants of World War One. The reason for this was not so much losses, as of course the majority of menfolk of those generations did in fact survive the war, but rather that relatively few of the survivors were ''not'' in valuable technical and leadership positions (and removing them from those would harm the economy). The same thing happened again, but ''worse'', with the post-WWII Soviet Union (after losing more than 15 million of a total male population of 90 million).[[/note]]

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The collective enthusiasm of the French for warfare lasted well into the first few months of World War One, which the French government chose to escalate into a global war when it took the opportunity to work together with Russia to destroy Germany. Unfortunately Russian disorganisation and infighting rendered their strength somewhat hollow, and so France ended up losing a comparable number of people (1.4 versus c.2 million) despite having just a third of the population (50 versus 160 million).[[note]] Interestingly, the grand total of US soldiers killed in ''all'' her military conflicts to date is about 1.3 million. Despite a few extra centuries of history, Britain is only slightly further head for a total nearing 2 million.[[/note]] On top of that another 4 million of a surviving total male population of 25 million (of all ages) were physically and [[ShellShockedVeteran mentally]] scarred, and the Spanish Flu of 1918-1919 went on to kill ''twice as many as had died in the war''. The raw and unadulterated ''hatred'' most French people bore by the war's end against France's civilian-military leadership for starting and 'prolonging' the war (by insisting on a total victory) was immense, with films such as Film/PathsOfGlory ''Film/PathsOfGlory'' barely doing it justice. By 1920 France had lost a greater proportion of her male population than ''any other combatant'' (including Russia, which went on to suffer [[RedOctober the Russian Civil War]]). So much of France's 'first rate' manpower (physically fit men of average or better intelligence) was lost that the army she fielded in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII was actually ''smaller'' than the one she had in 1918, and the total population had barely changed since then either.[[note]] That said, in World War Two 'a great big gap where the forty-something year old conscripts should be' was a problem for ''all'' the former combatants of World War One. The reason for this was not so much losses, as of course the majority of menfolk of those generations did in fact survive the war, but rather that relatively few of the survivors were ''not'' in valuable technical and leadership positions (and removing them from those would harm the economy). The same thing happened again, but ''worse'', with the post-WWII Soviet Union (after losing more than 15 million of a total male population of 90 million).[[/note]]
30th Nov '16 3:28:39 AM Morgenthaler
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* Technically averted in ''Film/ThePatriot'' with Major Jean Villeneuve (a composite character representing, among others, the UsefulNotes/MarquisDeLaFayette) fighting alongside the Americans (interestingly he shares a last name with the French admiral Pierre-Charles Villeneuve, who lost the Battle of Trafalgar, although this may not have been intentional). That being said, the revolutionaries bemoan the lack of French assistance throughout the film, though French forces show up with the very end of the film and help them win the Battle of Yorktown.

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* Technically averted inverted in ''Film/ThePatriot'' with Major Jean Villeneuve (a composite character representing, among others, the UsefulNotes/MarquisDeLaFayette) fighting alongside the Americans (interestingly he shares a last name with the French admiral Pierre-Charles Villeneuve, who lost the Battle of Trafalgar, although this may not have been intentional). That being said, the revolutionaries bemoan the lack of French assistance throughout the film, though French forces show up with the very end of the film and help them win the Battle of Yorktown.
19th Nov '16 9:19:38 AM jamespolk
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* The TropeMaker is discussed in documentary ''Film/TheSorrowAndThePity''. It is noted that France was the only one of the several countries that Hitler conquered to make a formal peace with UsefulNotes/NaziGermany. While all of the other countries in Hitler's Europe had governments-in-exile in London, France did not. This left de Gaulle and the Free French in an awkward position and undercut their ability to contribute to the the anti-Nazi war effort.
19th Nov '16 1:42:11 AM Morgenthaler
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* Notably averted in pretty much any movie starring Creator/JeanReno that English-speaking audiences are likely to have seen. While in France he's know to have quite a large repertoire (from romantic comedy to psychological drama), when he's in an internationally-distributed movie he's almost guaranteed to be a stone-cold {{badass}}.

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* Notably averted in pretty much any movie starring Creator/JeanReno that English-speaking audiences are likely to have seen. While in France he's know to have quite a large repertoire (from romantic comedy to psychological drama), when he's in an internationally-distributed movie he's almost guaranteed to be a stone-cold {{badass}}.badass.
15th Nov '16 12:53:55 PM LtFedora
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* Inverted in ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', where the English knights depend heavily on the strategy "RUN AWAY!!!"
12th Oct '16 9:10:45 AM erforce
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* When you have a fight between the cast members of the MegaCrossover FanWebcomic ''Webcomic/{{Roommates}}'' (main cast: [[ThePhantomOfTheOpera Erik]] and [[Theatre/LesMiserables Javert]] (French) and [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbean Commander Norrington]] and [[Film/{{Labyrinth}} Jareth]] (British and... Um... "British")), this insult is obviously going to be used. Sometimes even under the most ''[[SeriousBusiness ridiculous]]'' of circumstances- like in [[http://asherhyder.deviantart.com/art/Roommates-8-100-Years-War-63348564?q=gallery%3Aasherhyder%2F22161111&qo=166 this]] mini arc.

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* When you have a fight between the cast members of the MegaCrossover FanWebcomic ''Webcomic/{{Roommates}}'' (main cast: [[ThePhantomOfTheOpera Erik]] and [[Theatre/LesMiserables Javert]] (French) and [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbean [[Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean Commander Norrington]] and [[Film/{{Labyrinth}} Jareth]] (British and... Um... "British")), this insult is obviously going to be used. Sometimes even under the most ''[[SeriousBusiness ridiculous]]'' of circumstances- like in [[http://asherhyder.deviantart.com/art/Roommates-8-100-Years-War-63348564?q=gallery%3Aasherhyder%2F22161111&qo=166 this]] mini arc.
6th Oct '16 10:54:58 AM thatmadork
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* {{Averted|Trope}} in ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder''. A newspaper cutting suggests that even after twenty years of being occupied by the Nazis, the French Resistance is still actively fighting them, [[{{Determinator}} and they're no closer to giving up than they were at the start of the war]]. The rest of the free world has long since [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown been battered into submission]].
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