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4th Dec '17 2:51:38 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* Kai Lang in ''VideoGame/{{Mass Effect 3}}''. You've spent 3 entire video games playing as ultimate badass Commander Shepard, slaughtering evil humans, aliens, machines, and hybrids alike, only to be blind-sided by a ''ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}'' knock-off with a Katana. When you report in to your superior, [[BadassNormal Captain Anderson]], he warns you to be careful because Kai Lang is supremely dangerous. However, most players found that they would have easily been able to beat Kai Lang if it weren't for cut scenes that predetermined the outcome of all battles against him, forcing you to lose all showdowns until the final battle, by literally programming the game to take control from the player if Kai Lang is in danger of being defeated. The final battle makes it clear that Shepard feels pretty much the same way as the players, spending the whole fight mocking him for his reliance on bullshit tricks and running away when things get difficult before beating him easily.

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* Kai Lang in ''VideoGame/{{Mass Effect 3}}''. You've spent 3 entire video games playing as ultimate badass Commander Shepard, slaughtering evil humans, aliens, machines, and hybrids alike, only to be blind-sided by a ''ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}'' knock-off with a Katana. When you report in to your superior, [[BadassNormal Captain Anderson]], he warns you to be careful because Kai Lang is supremely dangerous. However, most players found that they would have easily been able to beat Kai Lang if it weren't for cut scenes that predetermined the outcome of all battles against him, forcing you to lose all showdowns until the final battle, by literally programming the game to take control from the player if Kai Lang is in danger of being defeated. This seems to have been deliberately to make him a better HateSink. The final battle makes it clear that Shepard feels pretty much the same way as the players, spending the whole fight mocking him for his reliance on bullshit tricks and running away when things get difficult before beating him easily.
4th Dec '17 2:47:01 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* Kai Lang in ''VideoGame/{{Mass Effect 3}}''. You've spent 3 entire video games playing as ultimate badass Commander Shepard, slaughtering evil humans, aliens, machines, and hybrids alike, only to be blind-sided by a ''ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}'' knock-off with a Katana. When you report in to your superior, [[BadassNormal Captain Anderson]], he warns you to be careful because Kai Lang is supremely dangerous. However, most players found that they would have easily been able to beat Kai Lang if it weren't for cut scenes that predetermined the outcome of all battles against him, forcing you to lose all showdowns until the final battle, by literally programming the game to take control from the player if Kai Lang is in danger of being defeated.

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* Kai Lang in ''VideoGame/{{Mass Effect 3}}''. You've spent 3 entire video games playing as ultimate badass Commander Shepard, slaughtering evil humans, aliens, machines, and hybrids alike, only to be blind-sided by a ''ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}'' knock-off with a Katana. When you report in to your superior, [[BadassNormal Captain Anderson]], he warns you to be careful because Kai Lang is supremely dangerous. However, most players found that they would have easily been able to beat Kai Lang if it weren't for cut scenes that predetermined the outcome of all battles against him, forcing you to lose all showdowns until the final battle, by literally programming the game to take control from the player if Kai Lang is in danger of being defeated. The final battle makes it clear that Shepard feels pretty much the same way as the players, spending the whole fight mocking him for his reliance on bullshit tricks and running away when things get difficult before beating him easily.
4th Dec '17 2:24:44 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* This is, more or less, the ''only'' way that the [[AuthorAvatar two]] [[CanonSue main]] [[SmallNameBigEgo characters]] in the ''Literature/LeftBehind'' series ever interact with non-main characters. It's either Buck and Rayford are thinking about how special they are and what a privilege it is for the rest of their unnamed co-workers and friends to associate with them, or it's these unnamed co-workers and friends gushing about them. This can be seen as the authors ignoring the ShowDontTell method of storytelling, merely ''telling'' us how earnest, passionate, and sincere their characters are rather than actually ''showing'' any of these qualities.
** [[BigBad Nicolae]] [[TheAntichrist Carpathia]]. The narrator constantly talks about how enthralled he is at the man's "genius" speeches and "complete charm". The speeches he gives, though, mostly consist of random facts and dates connected by childish analysis that would fail as high school reports. Also, he gives a speech that involves NAMING EVERY COUNTRY IN THE UNITED NATIONS. The delegates are of course wowed by his oratory skills and give him a standing ovation.

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* This is, more or less, the ''only'' way that the [[AuthorAvatar two]] [[CanonSue main]] [[SmallNameBigEgo characters]] in the ''Literature/LeftBehind'' series ever interact with non-main characters. It's either Buck and Rayford are thinking about how special they are and what a privilege it is for the rest of their unnamed co-workers and friends to associate with them, or it's these unnamed co-workers and friends gushing about them. This can be seen as the authors ignoring the ShowDontTell method of storytelling, merely ''telling'' us how earnest, passionate, and sincere their characters are rather than actually ''showing'' any of these qualities.
qualities. Buck especially pairs it with a bad case of an InformedAttribute; he's supposed to be this legendarily incorruptible reporter who's impossible to intimidate or bribe, and he keeps being described as such even after we've seen him agree to bury multiple major stories in exchange for protection from the group they would have exposed and a job.
** [[BigBad Nicolae]] [[TheAntichrist Carpathia]]. The narrator constantly talks about how enthralled he is at the man's "genius" speeches and "complete charm". The speeches he gives, though, mostly consist of random facts and dates connected by childish analysis that would fail as high school reports. Also, he gives a speech that involves NAMING EVERY COUNTRY IN THE UNITED NATIONS. The delegates are of course wowed by his oratory skills and give him a standing ovation. This may involve his mind control abilities, but if so it's never explicitly stated.
26th Nov '17 2:08:44 PM TheLuckyCat
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* Done a lot in ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' on ''Side:Despair'', to the point where the majority of the cast are completely DemotedToExtra for the sake of excessive praise of Chiaki [[CreatorsPet and how every good thing anybody does is all because of her.]]
26th Nov '17 12:52:38 PM MajinAkuma
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* Touma, the main character of ''Manga/MagicalRecordLyricalNanohaForce'', was fairly bland in the first few chapters, up [[RememberTheNewGuy until it was revealed that he was the adopted little brother of Subaru]], a far more popular character. While it's shown how they met, it doesn't quite show how they became so close, and the two don't even interact for a long while. It's just to say 'hey, ''Subaru'' likes him!' to the reader. It gets more obvious later on, when it's shown that other characters like Nanoha know and like him too, which happened ''entirely'' off-screen.
** He's also billed as a character who uses a unique fighting style and he has a lot of potential. Yet of all the times we see him fight, he was just swinging his [[{{BFS}} divider.]] There's apparently also something special inside him that the Anti-Magic using villains take their time in trying to recruit him.

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* Touma, Thoma, the main character of ''Manga/MagicalRecordLyricalNanohaForce'', was fairly bland in the first few chapters, up [[RememberTheNewGuy until it was revealed that he was the adopted not-yet-adopted little brother of Subaru]], a far more popular character. While it's shown how they met, it doesn't quite show how they became so close, and the two don't even interact for a long while. It's just to say 'hey, ''Subaru'' likes him!' to the reader. It gets more obvious later on, when it's shown that other characters like Nanoha know and like him too, which happened ''entirely'' off-screen.
** He's also billed as a character who uses a unique fighting style and he has a lot of potential. Yet of all the times we see him fight, he was just swinging his [[{{BFS}} divider.]] Divider]]. There's apparently also something special inside him that the Anti-Magic using villains take their time in trying to recruit him.
26th Nov '17 12:51:35 PM MajinAkuma
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* Cynthia does this with Paul in ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', who acts like a jerk to everyone and abuses his Pokemon in order to make them stronger, outright abandoning the ones that he finds to be a waste of time, and yet she refers to him as a "great trainer", who just clashes with Ash because of "different methods", rather than because, well, he's a jerk. Averted, however, with Pyramid King Brandon who hands Paul what is [[HumblePie probably his first big loss in the series at that point]] while calling [[WhatTheHellHero him out on his training methods]].
** Ash himself becomes a recipient of this in the XY series. Lots of characters (from minor ones to the gym leaders, and two champions) have the utmost respect for him, and he gets Hero Worship from his band of friends[[note]]to the point that for Ash's fifth gym battle, it was Clemont the ''Gym Leader'' who takes a leave of absence from the group so he could train and meet Ash's [[WorthyOpponent expectations]][[/note]]. He is AlwaysSomeoneBetter to all his region rivals, and even the one [[spoiler:who Ash eventually loses to in the League Finals]] unquestionably follows Ash's lead throughout the entire Kalos Crisis afterwards, and in the end contemplates that, between the two of them, Ash is the better trainer. This all in spite of still being BookDumb (though now downplayed). Partly [[JustifiedTrope justified]] in that the XY series was probably Ash's most succesfull bout as a trainer, and considering how much of a ButtMonkey he was in the ''Best Wishes'' era many fans consider this one a case of TropesAreNotBad.

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'':
** In ''Diamond & Pearl'',
Cynthia does this with Paul in ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', Pau who acts like a jerk to everyone and abuses his Pokemon in order to make them stronger, outright abandoning the ones that he finds to be a waste of time, and yet she refers to him as a "great trainer", who just clashes with Ash because of "different methods", rather than because, well, he's a jerk. Averted, however, with Pyramid King Brandon who hands Paul what is [[HumblePie probably his first big loss in the series at that point]] while calling [[WhatTheHellHero him out on his training methods]].
** Ash himself becomes a recipient of this in the XY ''XY'' series. Lots of characters (from minor ones to the gym leaders, and two champions) have the utmost respect for him, and he gets Hero Worship from his band of friends[[note]]to the point that for Ash's fifth gym battle, it was Clemont the ''Gym Leader'' who takes a leave of absence from the group so he could train and meet Ash's [[WorthyOpponent expectations]][[/note]]. He is AlwaysSomeoneBetter to all his region rivals, and even the one [[spoiler:who Ash eventually loses to in the League Finals]] unquestionably follows Ash's lead throughout the entire Kalos Crisis afterwards, and in the end contemplates that, between the two of them, Ash is the better trainer. This all in spite of still being BookDumb (though now downplayed). Partly [[JustifiedTrope justified]] in that the XY series was probably Ash's most succesfull succesful bout as a trainer, and considering how much of a ButtMonkey he was in the ''Best Wishes'' era many fans consider this one a case of TropesAreNotBad.
18th Nov '17 3:07:26 PM MasterHero
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* ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'': Many characters give this treatment to Franchise/{{Superman}} after his death in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/WonderWoman gush over how he was a paragon of hope to the world and with his death, the world has become a darker place. [[spoiler:leading Batman to plan his resurrection. Even after he gets off to a rocky start with the rest of the heroes, he easily befriends them and earns their respect. Franchise/TheFlash in particular is elated to stand alongside Superman and they have a race at the end of the movie.]] Given his [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment controversial]] treatment in the first two movies, this might be a case of TropesAreNotBad.
10th Nov '17 7:07:54 PM SkidTroper
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** Xe'ra's retelling of Illidan's history, spinning even his worst acts to being hard choices that must be made, is seen by many as annoying shilling. That one receives a really ironic comeuppance in patch 7.3, where [[spoiler:Illidan basically says "screw you" to Xe'ra and her attempts to forge him into her ChosenOne, and kills her after she tries to purify him by force]].

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** Xe'ra's retelling of Illidan's history, spinning even his worst acts to being hard choices that must be made, is seen by many as annoying shilling. That one receives a really ironic comeuppance in patch 7.3, where [[spoiler:Illidan basically says "screw you" to Xe'ra and her attempts to forge him into her ChosenOne, and kills her after she tries to purify him by force]]. More ironically, this is the same expansion where the Illidari shill Illidan (even implied to have formed a CultOfPersonality around him) [[MoralMyopia yet receive no negative protrayal or punishment for supporting him (see "Illidan knows the way")]].
26th Oct '17 3:42:48 AM OrangenChan
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* Keith got a fair amount of shilling in season two of ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender''. Shiro repeatedly talked about how much he wanted Keith to take over the Black Lion and lead Voltron if anything happened to him. While Keith isn't a bad pilot, he's very HotBlooded and hadn't shown many good leadership qualities up to that point. Then in season three, despite the Black Lion accepting him, Keith still gets the team in trouble several times. Ultimately deconstructed a bit in season four as the other paladins start getting frustrated with him, but watching the praise for him in earlier seasons quickly made Keith a contentious character.
10th Oct '17 6:36:41 PM Peridonyx
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** Master Xehanort is explicitly regarded as the ultimate {{Strategist}}. However, given how this is only after ''Dream Drop Distance'' heavily {{Retcon}}s all of the previous villains' accomplishments into being AllAccordingToPlan for him, he instead strikes many players as just extremely lucky at GambitRoulette.

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** Master Xehanort is explicitly regarded as the ultimate {{Strategist}}. a master [[TheStrategist Strategist]] who can predict just about anything "to some extent." However, given how this is only after ''Dream Drop Distance'' heavily {{Retcon}}s {{Retcon}}ned all of the previous villains' accomplishments into being AllAccordingToPlan for him, he instead strikes many players as just extremely lucky at GambitRoulette.
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