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14th Jul '17 8:53:46 AM ScorpionWasp
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** Not even story-wise her alleged qualities hold. She's gratuitously unpleasant and snobbish to her team-mates, at one point even answering friendly JunPei's question as to what she planned to do on a holiday with a "What business is it of yours, Iori?". She's bossy and unconcerned with trivialities such as consent, at one point signing the protagonist up for cram school without asking. She even goes so far as to spout blatant gibberish in an attempt to show off her supposed intellect, claiming that "only X percent of leaders have real(sic) charisma", because apparently charisma is an objective quality that can be measured like that. Then again, there might be a fair degree of [[ValuesDissonance Values Dissonance]] going on for the ocidental audience.
13th Jul '17 10:49:42 AM Prometheus117
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** [[spoiler:Also after Kaguya kills Obito, Naruto screams at her that he was "the coolest". Keep in mind that Obito was partially responsible for a vast majority of the mess that happened in the manga - especially Naruto's parents' and Neji's deaths - and only put a HeelFaceTurn a few minutes ago.]]

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** [[spoiler:Also after Kaguya kills Obito, Naruto screams at her that he was "the coolest". Keep in mind that Obito was partially responsible for a vast majority of the mess that happened in the manga - especially Naruto's parents' and Neji's deaths - and only put a HeelFaceTurn a few minutes ago. Granted, in that time he did save Naruto's life, helped give him a ShounenUpgrade, and died [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificing himself to save Naruto and Kakashi]], but calling him "the coolest" might have been stretching the truth a little bit.]]
6th Jul '17 1:06:01 PM N.Harmonik
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** Used effectively in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', where Cloud, Tifa, President Shinra and most every NPC you encounter all talk about Sephiroth in frightened tones as being an impossibly brilliant General and unstoppable force of destruction. After all of that is the terrifying quote "Sephiroth's strength is unreal. He is far stronger in reality than any story you might have heard about him".
** We even get to use him as a party member in a sequence which is explained as being [[UnreliableNarrator a story that Cloud is telling]], where he's so strong [[CrutchCharacter the player's survival is dependent on him]]. Then, when you see what he's capable of, he's so much worse.

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** Used effectively in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', where Cloud, Tifa, President Shinra and most every NPC you encounter all talk about Sephiroth in frightened tones as being an impossibly brilliant General and unstoppable force of destruction. After all of that is the terrifying quote "Sephiroth's strength is unreal. He is far stronger in reality than any story you might have heard about him". \n** We even get to use him as a party member in a sequence which is explained as being [[UnreliableNarrator a story that Cloud is telling]], where he's so strong [[CrutchCharacter the player's survival is dependent on him]]. Then, when you see what he's capable of, he's so much worse.
6th Jul '17 12:45:13 PM N.Harmonik
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* ''Comicbook/JLAActOfGod'' is infamous for having depowered superheroes gushing about how great Batman is because he has always been fighting crimes without powers... yet isn't the sole BadassNormal in the league. To add insult to the injury, in this story, Batman is a huge arrogant jerk who only helps a group of depowered heroes only after they come to him.

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* ''Comicbook/JLAActOfGod'' is infamous for having depowered superheroes gushing about how great Batman is because he has always been fighting crimes without powers... yet isn't the sole BadassNormal in the league. To add insult to the injury, in this story, Batman is a huge arrogant jerk who only helps a group of depowered heroes only after they come to him.
2nd Jul '17 9:08:06 PM JJHIL325
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' does this with Starlight Glimmer by having other characters praise her easily or making her look good at the expense others by giving them the JerkassBall or by [[TheWorfEffect weakening]] them.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' does this with ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': Part of the reason why Starlight Glimmer by having is a major BaseBreakingCharacter is because the show either has other characters praise her too easily or making make her look good at the expense others by giving them the JerkassBall or by [[TheWorfEffect weakening]] them.
27th Jun '17 6:50:11 AM Austin
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* Riri Williams receives mounds of this in her first proper issue taking over from Tony Stark as Ironheart. Barely a scene will pass without a big-name character praising her intelligence, S.H.I.E.L.D. holds a special meeting to talk about how wonderful she is, and ''Tony Stark himself'' even gets in on the act, despite heaping praise on others being very out-of-character for him.

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* Riri Williams receives mounds of this in her first proper issue taking over from Tony Stark as Ironheart.ComicBook/{{Ironheart}}. Barely a scene will pass without a big-name character praising her intelligence, S.H.I.E.L.D. holds a special meeting to talk about how wonderful she is, and ''Tony Stark himself'' even gets in on the act, despite heaping praise on others being very out-of-character for him.
26th Jun '17 11:22:42 PM LeanneFryingPan
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** This was Mon-El's entire arc in season 2. He started out the season a lying, misogynistic slave owner, but then he changed to become worthy of Kara's love... except he didn't change at all, other characters just insisted he had, even though he'd done nothing to show it. Alex, who's spent her entire adult life protecting Kara, was suddenly pushing her to date a guy who openly admitted he missed being able to get away with objectifying women, and Kara's entire storyline the whole season was talking about how heroic he supposedly was.
26th Jun '17 7:26:02 AM drillizer
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** To be fair to Char, his stint as Quattro had him masquerading as someone with actual social skills (which he sorely lacks due to devoting 13 or so years to nothing but revenge), and the other characters around him tend to ignore this because, well, he's ''Char'' . He's also saddled with the Hyaku-Shiki, a failed prototype Gundam with a transformable frame which, historically in UC means it's saddled with structural issues despite the final product being unable to transform at all (If anything, it's ONLY because of his piloting skill that he isn't killed in the many skirmishes he goes into in said machine). Besides that he's a surprisingly good mentor to Kamille, and he and old rival Amuro actually get along quite well. It's only when said prodigy gets mind-raped does Char snap after realizing just how cruel the world can be and how much people like the leaders of the Federation have royally things up in order to keep their own power.
25th Jun '17 10:45:02 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' does this with Starlight Glimmer by having other characters either praise her too easily or by making her look good at the expense of making other characters look worse by giving them the JerkassBall or by [[TheWorfEffect weakening]] them.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' does this with Starlight Glimmer by having other characters either praise her too easily or by making her look good at the expense of making other characters look worse others by giving them the JerkassBall or by [[TheWorfEffect weakening]] them.
24th Jun '17 5:46:02 PM MBG159
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" Comicbook/{{Hawkman}} is a fairly frequent receiver of this, as a longtime member of two prominent and powerful hero teams while also being in [[WhatKindOfALamePowerIsHeartAnyway an unfortunate place power-wise]]. He has the powerset of a FlyingBrick and the strength level of a BadassNormal, resulting in him lacking the brute force of most of the former and the technology and intellect of most of the latter, along with lacking specialized skills that could [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman contrive situations where he can be the only one to save the day.]] Consequently, most of his reason for being on teams gets conveyed through this trope, mostly focusing on claims that he's an excellent leader (despite coming off as a brute or a JerkAss most of the time, and rarely doing any actual commanding) with centuries of battle experience (that he mostly uses to [[AttackAttackAttack fly straight in and bludgeon people with his mace]]). The peak of this would probably be ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice'', where Prometheus, after having used esoteric methods to easily take down half the team, faces off against Hawkman and monologues about how Hawkman is the most dangerous one yet and difficult to counter because he's [[ConfusionFu unpredictable]] and in an UnstoppableRage... all while ignoring that Hawkman isn't ImmuneToBullets, [[WalkingShirtlessScene isn't wearing a shirt,]] and Prometheus has a gun.

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" * Comicbook/{{Hawkman}} is a fairly frequent receiver of this, as a longtime member of two prominent and powerful hero teams while also being in [[WhatKindOfALamePowerIsHeartAnyway [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway an unfortunate place power-wise]]. He has the powerset of a FlyingBrick and the strength level of a BadassNormal, resulting in him lacking the brute force of most of the former and the technology and intellect of most of the latter, along with lacking specialized skills that could [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman contrive situations where he can be the only one to save the day.]] Consequently, most of his reason for being on teams gets conveyed through this trope, mostly focusing on claims that he's an excellent leader (despite coming off as a brute or a JerkAss most of the time, and rarely doing any actual commanding) with centuries of battle experience (that he mostly uses to [[AttackAttackAttack fly straight in and bludgeon people with his mace]]). The peak of this would probably be ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice'', where Prometheus, after having used esoteric methods to easily take down half the team, faces off against Hawkman and monologues about how Hawkman is the most dangerous one yet and difficult to counter because he's [[ConfusionFu unpredictable]] and in an UnstoppableRage... all while ignoring that Hawkman isn't ImmuneToBullets, [[WalkingShirtlessScene isn't wearing a shirt,]] and Prometheus has a gun.
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