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1st May '18 4:32:49 PM costanton11
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* ''Film/MerlinsShopOfMysticalWonders'' (best known for its MysteryScienceTheater3000 episode), states that all magic artificially ages the user. The finale to the first story in the anthology culminates in the magic user needing to concoct a youth potion to counteract the effects.

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* ''Film/MerlinsShopOfMysticalWonders'' (best known for its MysteryScienceTheater3000 Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000 episode), states that all magic artificially ages the user. The finale to the first story in the anthology culminates in the magic user needing to concoct a youth potion to counteract the effects.
13th Apr '18 1:06:28 PM AuraXtreme
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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' character Sylphie is a [[WhiteMage Conjurer]] who is gifted in healing magic. [[spoiler:However, because she refuses to learn about nature, and thus cannot draw upon the boundless energy of the world itself, her healing magic is instead cast from her ''own'' life force, in effect shortening her lifespan significantly.]]
*** Also in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'', after the events of ''A Realm Reborn'', it turns out that [[spoiler:Y'shtola was trapped in the Lifestream. While it seems at first that the rescue effort has gone off without any more hitches than usual, it turns out that she's slowly being drained of Aether - and was furthermore blinded, so every time she tries to cast magic or even ''see'', she's bringing herself closer to death.]]
** This is basically what [[spoiler:Galuf]] does in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV''. As [[spoiler:he keeps fighting Exdeath]] while already in KO status, he winds up with an actual death results that a Phoenix Down can't cure.

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** * ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' character Sylphie is a [[WhiteMage Conjurer]] who is gifted in healing magic. [[spoiler:However, because she refuses to learn about nature, and thus cannot draw upon the boundless energy of the world itself, her healing magic is instead cast from her ''own'' life force, in effect shortening her lifespan significantly.]]
*** ** Also in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'', after the events of ''A Realm Reborn'', it turns out that [[spoiler:Y'shtola was trapped in the Lifestream. While it seems at first that the rescue effort has gone off without any more hitches than usual, it turns out that she's slowly being drained of Aether - and was furthermore blinded, so every time she tries to cast magic or even ''see'', she's bringing herself closer to death.]]
** * This is basically what [[spoiler:Galuf]] does in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV''. As [[spoiler:he keeps fighting Exdeath]] while already in KO status, he winds up with an actual death results that a Phoenix Down can't cure.cure.
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2'' reveals that this is the ultimate effect of [[spoiler:the Eyes of Etro. In exchange for the ability to trace the timeline, the seeress Yeul's many incarnations suffer drastically shortened lifespan. Most Yeuls die at the age of sixteen or less. Serah acquires the Eyes of Etro at age 21 and dies on her third vision.]]
25th Feb '18 9:00:54 AM DrFraud
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7576304/14/This-time-we-do-it-right This time we do it right]]'' using life force to power your spells is considered dark because you can't get it back.
18th Feb '18 9:54:19 AM Bosco13
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* Lamia from ''Film/{{Stardust}}'', each spell she uses drains a little bit of the good looks she got from eating the last of the previous star. This leads to a funny scene where she repeatedly tries to use magic to undo signs of age in one spot on her body only for it to cause signs of age to appear on another spot.
8th Feb '18 8:08:32 AM bitemytail
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* In ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', [[spoiler:Ed once used his own soul as a Philosopher's Stone (read: a huge energy source, itself made of souls) to heal himself from mortal wounds, shortening his lifespan in process. Bleeding out from a massive abdominal wound would've course have shortened his lifespan a lot faster, so it seems like a good trade-off...except that one of Ed's new allies finds an ''actual'' Philosopher's Stone 30 feet away not 5 minutes later. [[StupidSacrifice Whoops]].]]
** [[spoiler: Given Ed's opinion of the Philosopher's Stone creation process, it's unlikely he would've used it even if they'd found it sooner.]]

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* In ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', [[spoiler:Ed Ed once used his own soul as a Philosopher's Stone (read: Stone, [[spoiler: a huge energy source, itself made of souls) souls,]] to heal himself from mortal wounds, shortening his lifespan in process. Bleeding out from a massive abdominal wound would've course have shortened his lifespan a lot faster, so it seems like a good trade-off...trade-off ... except that one of Ed's new allies finds an ''actual'' Philosopher's Stone 30 feet away not 5 minutes later. [[StupidSacrifice Whoops]].]]
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Given Ed's opinion of the Philosopher's Stone creation process, it's unlikely he would've used it even if they'd found it sooner.]]
29th Jan '18 8:31:20 PM nombretomado
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* Mages from the ''{{Mithgar}}'' books age rapidly when using their magic, though they can enter a trance-like state to regain their youth (this also allows them to be functionally immortal, as long as they don't over-exert themselves). [[EvilSorcerer Black Mages]] have a way around this by basically becoming psychic vampires, drawing on the fear and misery of others instead of their own lives.

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* Mages from the ''{{Mithgar}}'' ''Literature/{{Mithgar}}'' books age rapidly when using their magic, though they can enter a trance-like state to regain their youth (this also allows them to be functionally immortal, as long as they don't over-exert themselves). [[EvilSorcerer Black Mages]] have a way around this by basically becoming psychic vampires, drawing on the fear and misery of others instead of their own lives.
15th Dec '17 1:45:56 AM Wolfeight
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* The long term consequences of a DeadlyUpgrade might be taking a silent toll.

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* The long term long-term consequences of a DeadlyUpgrade might be taking a silent toll.



Subtrope of CastFromHitPoints. Compare RapidAging as a side effect of some versions of Cast From Lifespan. While less squicky and immediately harmful than BloodMagic, magic Cast From Lifespan can be more dangerous in the long-term, and has even ''worse'' ethical ramifications if you aren't paying the price yourself. A revive spell that is also this will likely fall into SacrificialRevivalSpell. The existence of this trope in a magic system tends to be detrimental to the trend that WizardsLiveLonger.

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Subtrope of CastFromHitPoints. Compare RapidAging as a side effect of some versions of Cast From Lifespan. While less squicky and immediately harmful than BloodMagic, magic Cast From Lifespan can be more dangerous in the long-term, long-term and has even ''worse'' ethical ramifications if you aren't paying the price yourself. A revive spell that is also this will likely fall into SacrificialRevivalSpell. The existence of this trope in a magic system tends to be detrimental to the trend that WizardsLiveLonger.



** Tsunade's and Naruto's healing factor makes them age faster. Technically, they both involve making their cells regenerate faster, but since cells only have a limited number of regenerations, this means they will run out of regenerative cycles and start dying of old age sooner. As a result, Tsunade uses her HealingFactor only when ''not'' using it would shorten her life span rather more suddenly.

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** Tsunade's and Naruto's healing factor makes them age faster. Technically, they both involve making their cells regenerate faster, but since cells only have a limited number of regenerations, this means they will run out of regenerative cycles and start dying of old age sooner. As a result, Tsunade uses her HealingFactor only when ''not'' using it would shorten her life span lifespan rather more suddenly.



* In ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', [[spoiler:Ed once used his own soul as a Philosopher's Stone (read: a huge energy source, itself made of souls) to heal himself from mortal wounds, shortening his lifespan in process. Bleeding out from a massive abdominal wound would of course have shortened his lifespan a lot faster, so it seems like a good trade-off...except that one of Ed's new allies finds an ''actual'' Philospher's Stone 30 feet away not 5 minutes later. [[StupidSacrifice Whoops]].]]

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* In ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', [[spoiler:Ed once used his own soul as a Philosopher's Stone (read: a huge energy source, itself made of souls) to heal himself from mortal wounds, shortening his lifespan in process. Bleeding out from a massive abdominal wound would of would've course have shortened his lifespan a lot faster, so it seems like a good trade-off...except that one of Ed's new allies finds an ''actual'' Philospher's Philosopher's Stone 30 feet away not 5 minutes later. [[StupidSacrifice Whoops]].]]



** In addition to being CastFromHitPoints, the Tri Beam is stated on its first use to shorten your lifespan even if it doesn't kill you. This is then completely forgotten about, as within ten episodes Tien feels free to use it for such mundane tasks as clearing a large amount of ice to find a Dragon Ball faster.

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** In addition to being CastFromHitPoints, the Tri Beam Tri-Beam is stated on its first use to shorten your lifespan even if it doesn't kill you. This is then completely forgotten about, as within ten episodes Tien feels free to use it for such mundane tasks as clearing a large amount of ice to find a Dragon Ball faster.



* In the ComicBook/{{Shadowpact}} books, Enchantress is mentioned using a spell that takes an year off her life to keep her team's leader Nightmaster alive for either another hour or another day. However its also mentioned that she's supposed to live for centuries like a lot of other magic users in the Franchise/DCUniverse so she probably doesn't mind nearly as much as a normal person would

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* In the ComicBook/{{Shadowpact}} books, Enchantress is mentioned using a spell that takes an a year off her life to keep her team's leader Nightmaster alive for either another hour or another day. However However, its also mentioned that she's supposed to live for centuries like a lot of other magic users in the Franchise/DCUniverse so she probably doesn't mind nearly as much as a normal person would



* Used in a particularly barmy (probably Italian[[note]]This is based on the Finnish translation, but since those particular translations are pretty decent, it can't have made any more sense to begin with. Less is possible.[[/note]]) [[ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse Scrooge McDuck]] story. Let's see... Scrooge finds out that if you travel to the centre of the Earth (beware the giant snails!), you'll find a smaller Earth whence all time originates, and there the keepers of time can give you the key to time, which enables you to operate on all time zones at once. (No-one knows what that's supposed to mean, not even after he starts doing it, but it's the key to making boatloads of money.) But they also give him twenty-four negative briefcases. Those vanish, but they're still with him, much like the key is never shown to be an item but just is in his pocket. Anywho, it turns out that in doing whatever he's doing with the "key", he's also consuming his own time twenty-four times faster. Not that it's very relevant, since very shortly he would have been crushed by the weight of the briefcases anyway, whatever that means. Um. Got it?

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* Used in a particularly barmy (probably Italian[[note]]This is based on the Finnish translation, but since those particular translations are pretty decent, it can't have made any more sense to begin with. Less is possible.[[/note]]) [[ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse Scrooge McDuck]] story. Let's see... Scrooge finds out that if you travel to the centre of the Earth (beware the giant snails!), you'll find a smaller Earth whence all time originates, and there the keepers of time can give you the key to time, which enables you to operate on all time zones at once. (No-one knows what that's supposed to mean, not even after he starts doing it, but it's the key to making boatloads of money.) But they also give him twenty-four negative briefcases. Those vanish, but they're still with him, much like the key is never shown to be an item but just is in his pocket. Anywho, it turns out that in doing whatever he's doing with the "key", he's also consuming his own time twenty-four times faster. Not that it's very relevant, relevant since very shortly he would have been crushed by the weight of the briefcases anyway, whatever that means. Um. Got it?



* This trope is foundational to the ''Literature/MagisterTrilogy''. Whenever anyone casts a spell, it costs them part of their allotted life span, and human society is built upon the sacrifices of witches. Magisters seem to be able to circumvent this law and do any magic without ever paying for it, but even they are afraid of what would happen if the secret behind their power ever got out.

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* This trope is foundational to the ''Literature/MagisterTrilogy''. Whenever anyone casts a spell, it costs them part of their allotted life span, lifespan, and human society is built upon the sacrifices of witches. Magisters seem to be able to circumvent this law and do any magic without ever paying for it, but even they are afraid of what would happen if the secret behind their power ever got out.



** Several spells caused aging as a side effect of using them, including ''Gate'', ''Haste'' and ''Wish''. Varies from edition to edition. Generally such costs are much more common in Second Edition than the Third.

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** Several spells caused aging as a side effect of using them, including ''Gate'', ''Haste'' and ''Wish''. Varies from edition to edition. Generally Generally, such costs are much more common in Second Edition than the Third.



** The Wu Jen spell, Transcend Mortality, takes this to the logical conclusion: You use up ''all'' of your lifespan (and lifeforce in general) at once. You'll be more or less entirely indestructible for a while, but after that you don't just die, you turn to ashes.

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** The Wu Jen spell, Transcend Mortality, takes this to the logical conclusion: You use up ''all'' of your lifespan (and lifeforce in general) at once. You'll be more or less entirely indestructible for a while, but after that that, you don't just die, you turn to ashes.



* Iron-Bound Elves in ''TabletopGame/WickedFantasy'' have the ability to sacrifice some of their lifespan to enhance various abilities, making them, at the least, more likely to succeed at attack rolls, skill checks or ability checks. As the process of becoming Iron-Bound cuts an elf's normal lifespan from "tens of thousands of years" to about "one to twelve years" in and of itself, and is typically the result of the elf being forcibly enslaved by a (usually human) master, most don't consider the sacrifice to be all that big a deal.

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* Iron-Bound Elves in ''TabletopGame/WickedFantasy'' have the ability to sacrifice some of their lifespan lifespans to enhance various abilities, making them, at the least, more likely to succeed at attack rolls, skill checks or ability checks. As the process of becoming Iron-Bound cuts an elf's normal lifespan from "tens of thousands of years" to about "one to twelve years" in and of itself, and is typically the result of the elf being forcibly enslaved by a (usually human) master, most don't consider the sacrifice to be all that big a deal.
14th Dec '17 2:50:54 AM Chabal2
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* Attempted in ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater''. Red Mage casts several Haste spells on a bone dragon in the hopes that it's lifespan will be greatly accelerated until it dies... even though he knows it doesn't work that way, he just wanted to see if it could work. You honestly can't blame Black Mage for trying to shank him right after.
7th Dec '17 6:53:12 PM WillBGood
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* MerlinsShopofMysticalWonders (best known for its MysteryScienceTheater3000 episode), states that all magic artificially ages the user. The finale to the first story in the anthology culminates in the magic user needing to concoct a youth potion to counteract the effects.

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* MerlinsShopofMysticalWonders ''Film/MerlinsShopOfMysticalWonders'' (best known for its MysteryScienceTheater3000 episode), states that all magic artificially ages the user. The finale to the first story in the anthology culminates in the magic user needing to concoct a youth potion to counteract the effects.
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