History Main / CanonDisContinuity

8th Jul '16 5:40:49 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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** The Franchise/DisneyPrincess roster varies significantly, tending to eliminate princesses from less popular movies. This shows up in merchandise and tie-in books. Most notably, [[Disney/TheBlackCauldron Princess Eilonwy]] and [[Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire Kida]] are never included. One book specifically mentions that Ariel is the only princess from an underwater kingdom.
** Disney has no regard for their Direct-to-DVD sequels such as ''Poccahontas 2'', ''Mulan 2'' and ''The Little Mermaid 2''. Characters introduced in those sequels rarely (if ever) get merchandising, and the events that take place in those movies are never referenced again.
** Television spinoffs of the Disney Canon, such as ''Timon and Pumbaa'', ''The Little Mermaid'', or ''Hercules: The Series'' are also rendered non-canon to the films and are never brought up again afterward. Oftentimes they can end up conflicting with events from the movies as well.

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** It appears that ''[[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid the]] ''[[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid Little Mermaid]]'' [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid animated series]] (designed as a prequel to the first movie) has been kicked out of continuity by ''The Little Mermaid III - Ariel's Beginning'', as ''Ariel's Beginning'' is also a prequel to the first movie that would generally be consistent with the series but features a totally different version of Ariel and Flounder's first meeting than was presented in the series. Or it's just the one episode about their meeting that is touched -- it has not been clarified.
** Very similarly, ''The Lion King 1/2'' (itself of debatable canonicity) seems to declare discontinuity on the ''WesternAnimation/TimonAndPumbaa'' TV series, since it too featured a completely different version of Timon and Pumbaa's youth than featured in the movie.
** The Franchise/DisneyPrincess roster varies significantly, tending to eliminate princesses from less popular movies. This shows up in merchandise and tie-in books. Most notably, [[Disney/TheBlackCauldron Princess Eilonwy]] and [[Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire Kida]] are never included. One book specifically mentions that Ariel is the only princess from an underwater kingdom.
** Disney has
kingdom. Of course, there is no regard for their Direct-to-DVD sequels such as ''Poccahontas 2'', ''Mulan 2'' and ''The Little Mermaid 2''. Characters introduced in those sequels rarely (if ever) get merchandising, and the events that take place in those movies are never referenced again.
** Television spinoffs of the Disney Canon, such as ''Timon and Pumbaa'', ''The Little Mermaid'', or ''Hercules: The Series'' are also rendered non-canon to the films and are never brought up again afterward. Oftentimes they can end up conflicting with events from the movies as well.
real continuity involved -- it's just a marketing thing.
6th Jul '16 2:38:22 PM Pichu-kun
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* This has occured to Betty Kane as ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}. While it's true Barbara Gordon was the first Batgirl to have all the main Batgirl traits, the first Batgirl (or "Bat-Girl" as it was spelled then) was ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}'s pre-Crisis KidSidekick Betty Kane. When Crisis hit DC decided to {{retcon}} Betty's existence as Batgirl away. Barbara is chronologically the ''first'' Batgirl and Betty never even took up the mantle. Instead, Bette (as she was renamed) became the superhero Flamebird. Bette is still technically a part of the "Bat Family" but [[FanonDiscontinuity fans look her over]] and in canon this is rarely brought up.
3rd Jul '16 4:51:22 PM nombretomado
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* ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'':

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* ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'':''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'':
27th Jun '16 6:46:37 AM REV6Pilot
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* Creator/MonolithProductions chose to [[http://www.projectorigincommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5928&postcount=7 ignore]] the two ''[[VideoGame/FirstEncounterAssaultRecon F.E.A.R.]]'' {{Expansion Pack}}s (which were made by a different company) when they started development on the game's ''real'' sequel. Some elements from the expansions were kept in the sequel, however, such as the Replica reactivating despite Fettel's death (though this time with an actual logical explanation, at least for the first group of them), [[spoiler:Fettel coming back from said death]], and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the ability to punch doors open]].

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* Creator/MonolithProductions chose to [[http://www.projectorigincommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5928&postcount=7 ignore]] the two ''[[VideoGame/FirstEncounterAssaultRecon F.E.A.R.]]'' {{Expansion Pack}}s (which were made by a different company) company, Vivendi) when they started development on the game's ''real'' sequel. sequels. As far as the wiki goes, the fandom treats ''Extraction Point'' and ''Perseus Mandate'' as the Vivendi timeline, ''Project Origin'' and on as the Monoligh timeline, and ''First Encounter Assault Recon'' as belonging to both. Some elements from the expansions were kept in the sequel, kept, however, such as the Replica reactivating despite Fettel's death (though this time with an actual logical explanation, at least for the first group of them), [[spoiler:Fettel coming back from said death]], and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the ability to punch doors open]].
25th Jun '16 2:18:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget2015'' directly continues on from the classic ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget'', and makes no mention of ''GadgetAndTheGadgetinis'' whatsoever.

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* ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget2015'' directly continues on from the classic ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget'', and makes no mention of ''GadgetAndTheGadgetinis'' ''WesternAnimation/GadgetAndTheGadgetinis'' whatsoever.
24th Jun '16 5:17:33 PM MyFinalEdits
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* Oddest case ever: ''VideoGame/LeisureSuitLarry 4''. It doesn't exist. It's not just non-canonical, [[UnInstallment it was never made]]. The real-life explanation is that they couldn't think of a good way to continue from ''Larry 3''[='s=] happy ending, so they just did a sequel anyway and made the continuity errors it produces part of the plot. The story goes that creator Al Lowe had sworn that there would never be a ''4''... before agreeing to make another ''Larry'' game. To keep his oath, he made ''5'' and simply had the characters reference ''Leisure Suit Larry 4: The Missing Floppies'', a title that exists in the game's plot. The cleanup for the plot from ''3'' was an added bonus. The lack of ''4'' even became a plot point in ''VideoGame/SpaceQuest 4''; Vohaul had corrupted the master disks and used them to take over Xenon.

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* Oddest case ever: ''VideoGame/LeisureSuitLarry 4''. It doesn't exist. It's not just non-canonical, [[UnInstallment it was never made]]. The real-life explanation is that they couldn't think of a good way to continue from ''Larry 3''[='s=] happy ending, so they just did a sequel anyway and made the continuity errors it produces part of the plot. The story goes that creator Al Lowe had sworn that there would never be a ''4''... before agreeing to make another ''Larry'' game. To keep his oath, he made ''5'' and simply had the characters reference ''Leisure Suit Larry 4: The Missing Floppies'', a title that exists in the game's plot. The cleanup for the plot from ''3'' was an added bonus. The lack of ''4'' even became a plot point in ''VideoGame/SpaceQuest 4''; Vohaul had corrupted the master disks and used them to take over Xenon.



* While not entirely declaring them non-canonical, Yoshio Sakamoto said that he did not take the plots of the ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime'' games into consideration in the making of ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM''. This leads to some weirdness when Samus mentions that this is the first time she's undertaken a mission alongside the Federation when she already did that in ''Metroid Prime 3''. However, these are minor plot holes in a series riddled with them. The fact that the ''Prime'' sub-series was American-made and [[GaidenGame told its own story instead of furthering the plot]] of the Japanese games may have had something to do with this.

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* While not entirely declaring them non-canonical, Yoshio Sakamoto said that he did not take the plots of the ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime'' ''VideoGame/MetroidPrimeTrilogy'' games into consideration in the making of ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM''. This leads to some weirdness when Samus mentions that this is the first time she's undertaken a mission alongside the Federation when she already did that in ''Metroid Prime 3''.''VideoGame/MetroidPrime3Corruption''. However, these are minor plot holes in a series riddled with them. The fact that the ''Prime'' sub-series was American-made and [[GaidenGame told its own story instead of furthering the plot]] of the Japanese games may have had something to do with this.



* The [[Literature/BaldursGate unpopular novelizations]] of the ''Franchise/BaldursGate'' series, in which the protagonist was a {{Jerkass}} KarmaHoudini, was eventually declared non-canonical by Creator/WizardsOfTheCoast. Officially, ''D&D'' video games are all non-canonical to the broader tabletop ''D&D'' continuity, letting the video game designers shake up the world however they like without worrying about treading on tabletop designers' and players' toes. However, most ''novels'' are treated as canonical to the tabletop settings unless stated otherwise (a situation classic ''TabletopGame/DarkSun'' players were familiar with and bemoaned), which is why the ''Baldur's Gate'' novel specifically needed excising.

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* ''Franchise/BaldursGate'':
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The [[Literature/BaldursGate unpopular novelizations]] of the ''Franchise/BaldursGate'' series, in which the protagonist was a {{Jerkass}} KarmaHoudini, was eventually declared non-canonical by Creator/WizardsOfTheCoast. Officially, ''D&D'' video games are all non-canonical to the broader tabletop ''D&D'' continuity, letting the video game designers shake up the world however they like without worrying about treading on tabletop designers' and players' toes. However, most ''novels'' are treated as canonical to the tabletop settings unless stated otherwise (a situation classic ''TabletopGame/DarkSun'' players were familiar with and bemoaned), which is why the ''Baldur's Gate'' novel specifically needed excising.



* [[WordOfGod Serris]] says that the rebooted ''Furtopia RP'' is not part of the ''Roleplay/DarwinsSoldiers'' canon and never will be.
** His next role-play franchise, ''Into the Black'', retconned the existence of ''Racing the Storm'' and everything from it, with the exception of [[BreakoutCharacter Flora the folf]].

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* [[WordOfGod Serris]] says that the rebooted ''Furtopia RP'' is not part of the ''Roleplay/DarwinsSoldiers'' canon and never will be.
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be. His next role-play franchise, ''Into the Black'', retconned the existence of ''Racing the Storm'' and everything from it, with the exception of [[BreakoutCharacter Flora the folf]].
24th Jun '16 11:46:02 AM MisterCPC
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* Disney has no regard for their Direct-to-DVD sequels such as ''Poccahontas 2'', ''Mulan 2'' and ''The Little Mermaid 2''. Characters introduced in those sequels rarely (if ever) get merchandising, and the events that take place in those movies are never referenced again.

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* ** Disney has no regard for their Direct-to-DVD sequels such as ''Poccahontas 2'', ''Mulan 2'' and ''The Little Mermaid 2''. Characters introduced in those sequels rarely (if ever) get merchandising, and the events that take place in those movies are never referenced again.again.
** Television spinoffs of the Disney Canon, such as ''Timon and Pumbaa'', ''The Little Mermaid'', or ''Hercules: The Series'' are also rendered non-canon to the films and are never brought up again afterward. Oftentimes they can end up conflicting with events from the movies as well.
16th Jun '16 6:59:42 PM PatPayne
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* This mixed with OurLawyersAdvisedThisTrope has brought about the final resolution to the Unseen debacle that has plagued ''TabletopGame/{{Battletech}}'' since at least 1995. In June, 2015, Catalyst Game Labs began phasing in new designs for the iconic Unseen designs that cannot be legally used or shown [[note]] Technically, the ''artwork'' for the 'mechs not derived from ''SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' (which is totally off-limits) can be used, but everyone involved doesn't want another headache with art that wasn't made in-house by FASA/Fanpro/Catalyst[[/note]], ones that are evocative of the originals but different enough to be considered legally original works. Catalyst has officially stated that the original "Unseen" art is no longer canon.
15th Jun '16 10:45:18 PM MyFinalEdits
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* StarWarsTheForceAwakens was this to all post Battle of Endor StarWars fiction.



** All Expanded Universe stories became non-canonical ''Star Wars'' Legends after Creator/{{Disney}} acquired the franchise.
15th Jun '16 7:51:27 PM Adept
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* Disney has no regard for their Direct-to-DVD sequels such as ''Poccahontas 2'', ''Mulan 2'' and ''The Little Mermaid 2''. Characters introduced in those sequels rarely (if ever) get merchandising, and the events that take place in those movies are never referenced again.
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