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* In TheStinger of ''Film/YoungSherlockHolmes'', the BigBad Rathe is revealed not to have died in his fight with Holmes. He checks into an inn by signing his name as "Moriarty", showing that he will become Holmes's nemesis in the years ahead. Literature/SherlockHolmes media seems to love this trope; see more examples below.

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* In TheStinger of ''Film/YoungSherlockHolmes'', the BigBad Rathe is revealed not to have died in his fight with Holmes. He checks into an inn by signing his name as "Moriarty", showing that he will become Holmes's nemesis in the years ahead. Literature/SherlockHolmes media seems to love this trope; see more examples below.trope.



* ''WebVideo/TheDomReviews'': Terrence the Douchebag from Ravenclaw looked like an original character for The Dom's ''Harry Potter'' reviews, but he's heavily implied to be the obscure character Terry Boot.

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* ''WebVideo/TheDomReviews'': Terrence the Douchebag from Ravenclaw looked like an original character for The Dom's ''Harry Potter'' reviews, but he's heavily implied ultimately confirmed to be the obscure character Terry Boot.
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* In the Website/{{Facebook}} version of ''Franchise/TheTransformers''' ''Ask Vector Prime'' column, Vector Prime was asked about the Autobot ToylineExclusiveCharacter named... [[ShapedLikeItself Autobot]]. His response was to all but state that "Autobot" was himself in the past, that he had such a form after his memory was erased, and believes the name might derive from a title of his in some timelines, "The First Autobot". That's right, the tiny silver watchbot that never appeared in anything or had any story significance was [[AngelUnaware the amnesiac god of time]]. This actually had already been implied in another answer months earlier, where he mentioned being part of a group of "Time Warriors" - Autobots who had followed him in his mission to protect time - that consisted of all the other Kronoform toys of whose line Autobot was a part, [[HiddenInPlainSight only Vector Prime didn't mention Autobot]]...
** In response to this, another letter asked if he was in the audience that saw Megatron kill Emirate Xeon (a black-colored version of the same toy had cameoed in a Dreamwave comic, causing some to identify it as Autobot as other toys with that mold had never been released as part of the Transformers brand), only for Vector Prime to state that ''this'' individual was, in fact, [[RetroactiveLegacy the G1 version of]] [[Film/Transformers2007 Meantime]], sporting a black version of the same mold, in a MythologyGag to the toy's origins as Kronoform toy with four possible colors, one of which was black. Prime goes on to mention two other characters based on said toy, one of them a preexisting, novel-only character named Azimuth, who had the gold color.
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** In the first game's second case, Grimesby Roylott, a canonical character from ''The Adventure of the Speckled Band'', turns out to be a disguise for 15 year old Russian ballerina Nikolina Pavlova, an original character. She's still the culprit though.

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** In the first game's second case, Grimesby Roylott, a canonical character from ''The Adventure of the Speckled Band'', turns out to be a disguise for 15 year old Russian ballerina Nikolina Pavlova, an original character. She's still the culprit though.though, albeit entirely [[AccidentalMurder by accident]], and [[DidNotDieThatWay she didn't even kill her "victim"]].
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* Throughout ''FIlm/ShinKamenRider2023'', Hongo and Ruriko are aided by a pair of anonymous government operatives in their fight against SHOCKER. At the very end of the movie, the agents reveal their names are Tachibana and Taki, who were two of Hongo and Hayato's recurring allies in [[Series/KamenRider the original 70s series]].
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* The [[Film/AttackOnTitan2015 film adaptation]] of ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' has Kubal and Shikishima, who seem to be stand-ins for the military brass and Levi Ackerman, respectively. They're eventually revealed to be the film continuity's versions of the Colossal Titan and the Armored Titan.

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* The [[Film/AttackOnTitan2015 film adaptation]] of ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' has Kubal and Shikishima, who seem to be stand-ins for the military brass and Levi Ackerman, respectively. They're eventually revealed to be the film continuity's versions of the Colossal Titan and the Armored Titan. Shikishima additionally was revealed to be Eren's older brother, effectively becoming the film universe's version of Zeke Yeager.
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'''Jack:''' Garland. My name's Jack Garland.

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'''Jack:''' Garland.[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI Garland]]. My name's Jack Garland.
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* ''Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017'': Agatha, one of the few townspeople to treat Belle with kindness, turns out to be the Enchantress.
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* The first part of ''WebAnimation/AnimatorVsAnimation VI'', "Wanted", introduces at the very end a familiar-looking dark gray stick figure. The second part, "The Box", through a few instances of him [[IconicAttributeAdoptionMoment using his old weapons and tactics]], and a FreezeFrameBonus outright naming him, reveals him to be victim, [[TheBusCameBack returning from the very first]] ''Animator vs. Animation''.
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* ''Film/FiveNightsAtFreddys2023'':
** Mike Schmidt is given the job offer to Freddy's by his career consultant, Steve Raglan, who seems to be a character created for the film. The climax reveals that "Steve Raglan" is a pseudonym; his real name is [[BigBad William Afton]].
** While she shares her first name with a major character from ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSecurityBreach'', Vanessa Shelly is a police officer rather than a security guard here, and is mostly an original character, with no traits of her Vanny alter-ego present. Then it is revealed that her real name is Vanessa Afton, she is William's daughter, and she has been working for her father all along, making her a direct counterpart to Elizabeth Afton from the games.[[note]]There is a theory that Vanessa from the games is William's daughter, though this has not been confirmed yet.[[/note]]
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* ''Film/BigBirdInJapan'' centres around the titular character from ''Series/SesameStreet'' visiting Japan and befriending a young woman that is about to leave the country soon. After a long period of not revealing her name, she finally reveals herself to be [[Literature/TheTaleOfTheBambooCutter Princess Kaguya]].
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** ''Film/GodzillaFinalWars'' has Monster X, who late in the movie transforms into what was until then, the only {{Kaiju}} missing from the movie: [[HijackedByGanon Ghidorah]]. Although ironically enough, Creator/{{Toho}} considers this version to be a separate character, naming him [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Kaiser/Keizer Ghidorah]], rather than King. Reportedly, Toho even went so far as to keep said kaiju's existence a secret from Japanese audiences until the movie's release in theaters, so as to make his surprise appearance at the end all the more satisfying.

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** ''Film/GodzillaFinalWars'' has Monster X, who late in the movie transforms into what was until then, the only {{Kaiju}} missing from the movie: [[HijackedByGanon Ghidorah]]. Although ironically enough, Creator/{{Toho}} considers this version to be a separate character, naming him [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Kaiser/Keizer Ghidorah]], Kaiser Ghidora rather than King. Reportedly, Toho even went so far as to keep said kaiju's existence a secret from Japanese audiences until the movie's release in theaters, so as to make his surprise appearance at the end all the more satisfying.
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** ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse'': ComicBook/{{Miles|Morales}}' class watches a video where a female scientist explains the concept of {{Alternate Universe}}s. She's later shown working for Kingpin, and Peter [[CasanovaWannabe tries to charm her]] for information. A ''[[ForScience creepier]]'' comment she makes prompts him to ask for her name: Olivia Octavius, a.k.a. a {{Gender Flip}}ped ComicBook/DoctorOctopus.

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** ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse'': ComicBook/{{Miles|Morales}}' [[Characters/MarvelComicsMilesMorales Miles Morales]] class watches a video where a female scientist explains the concept of {{Alternate Universe}}s. She's later shown working for Kingpin, and Peter [[CasanovaWannabe tries to charm her]] for information. A ''[[ForScience creepier]]'' comment she makes prompts him to ask for her name: Olivia Octavius, a.k.a. a {{Gender Flip}}ped ComicBook/DoctorOctopus.[[Characters/MarvelComicsOttoOctavius Doctor Octopus]].



** One of the new Task Force X members introduced in the opening scene of ''Film/TheSuicideSquad'' is a mysterious character known only as T.D.K., who refuses to explain what the acronym stands for. Once the Squad is engaged in a firefight, it's revealed his codename is "The Detachable Kid," making him the film's version of the obscure ''Comicbook/LegionOfSuperHeroes'' member Arm-Fall-Off-Boy.

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** One of the new Task Force X members introduced in the opening scene of ''Film/TheSuicideSquad'' is a mysterious character known only as T.D.K., who refuses to explain what the acronym stands for. Once the Squad is engaged in a firefight, it's revealed his codename is "The Detachable Kid," making him the film's version of the obscure ''Comicbook/LegionOfSuperHeroes'' ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes'' member Arm-Fall-Off-Boy.
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** In ''Film/IronMan2'', Tony saves a young boy wearing a replica of his mask from one of Vanko's drones. WordOfGod has retroactively revealed that the boy was a young [[Franchise/SpiderMan Peter Parker]].

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** In ''Film/IronMan2'', Tony saves a young boy wearing a replica of his mask from one of Vanko's drones. WordOfGod has retroactively revealed that the boy was a young [[Franchise/SpiderMan [[ComicBook/SpiderMan Peter Parker]].
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->'''Princess Sarah:''' I... never asked your name.\\
'''Jack:''' Garland. My name's Jack Garland.
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* In the ''WebAnimation/MinilifeTV'' "LOST EPISODE" special, the newly-introduced DJ DIAL-UP reveals himself to be one of the twin laptops Archie gave birth to in "How I Got Your Laptops" grown up at the end of the special.
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* ''VisualNovel/BoyfriendToDeath'': One of the new characters introduced in the sequel is Vincent Metzger, a lycanthropic military veteran who doesn't remember much about his past. A tie-in story reveals that [[ImpersonationExclusiveCharacter Vincent was killed by a werewolf a long time ago]] -- his dogtags were then switched with those of Akira Kojima, a side character from the first game, who you had been interacting with this whole time.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse'': ComicBook/{{Miles|Morales}}' class watches a video where a female scientist explains the concept of {{Alternate Universe}}s. She's later shown working for Kingpin, and Peter [[CasanovaWannabe tries to charm her]] for information. A ''[[ForScience creepier]]'' comment she makes prompts him to ask for her name: Olivia Octavius, a.k.a. a {{Gender Flip}}ped ComicBook/DoctorOctopus.

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** The sequel, ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse'', reveals that the random Alchemax scientist that Miles threw a bagel at was the film's version of Johnathan Ohnn, aka The Spot. He even brings up the bagel incident, apparently having taken it personally.
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTheMovie2017'': Tempest Shadow's color scheme, affinity for fireworks-like magic, and her real name ([[FluffyTheTerrible Fizzlepop Berrytwist]]) reveal her to be a G4 re-imagining of Fizzy Pop, a G3 pony with an identical color scheme and a love for fireworks.
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This trick may also be used in adaptations. One of the main characters is properly introduced, looking like a CanonForeigner, absent in the original work. Later in the work (or even [[TheEndingChangesEverything in the end]]) this character reveals that he ''is'' a character from the original canon, usually pointing that that's an alternate, old, or secret name of them. Alternatively, he undergoes the character's OriginEpisode ''during'' the series, rather than in the first episode or in a distant flashback, and then turns into the character from the original canon.

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This trick may also be used in adaptations. One of the main characters is properly introduced, looking like a CanonForeigner, absent in the original work. Later in the work (or even [[TheEndingChangesEverything in the end]]) this character reveals that he ''is'' a character from the original canon, usually pointing that that's an alternate, old, or secret name of them. Alternatively, he undergoes the character's OriginEpisode OriginsEpisode ''during'' the series, rather than in the first episode or in a distant flashback, and then turns into the character from the original canon.
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This trick may also be used in adaptations. One of the main characters is properly introduced, looking like a CanonForeigner, absent in the original work. Later in the work (or even [[TheEndingChangesEverything in the end]]) this character reveals that he ''is'' a character from the original canon, usually pointing that that's an alternate, old, or secret name of them. Alternatively, he undergoes the character's OriginStory ''during'' the series, rather than in the first episode or in a distant flashback, and then turns into the character from the original canon.

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This trick may also be used in adaptations. One of the main characters is properly introduced, looking like a CanonForeigner, absent in the original work. Later in the work (or even [[TheEndingChangesEverything in the end]]) this character reveals that he ''is'' a character from the original canon, usually pointing that that's an alternate, old, or secret name of them. Alternatively, he undergoes the character's OriginStory OriginEpisode ''during'' the series, rather than in the first episode or in a distant flashback, and then turns into the character from the original canon.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'': The Koopa General initially appears to be a simple EliteMook; however, careful viewers will notice that he is a Koopa Paratroopa with a spiky blue shell. During the Rainbow Road sequence, after his vehicle is totaled, he throws off his helmet and [[CallingYourAttacks yells]] "Blue Shell!", retreating into his shell and flying right at Mario and Donkey Kong, before [[SuicideAttack exploding and blasting the two off the road]]. That's right - he's the film's adaptation of the [[ThatOneAttack infamous Spiny Shell]] that has bedeviled many a ''VideoGame/MarioKart'' player.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'': The For a given value of "character", at least - the Koopa General initially appears to be a simple EliteMook; however, EliteMook, but careful viewers will notice that he is a Koopa Paratroopa with a spiky blue shell. During the Rainbow Road sequence, after his vehicle is totaled, he throws off his helmet and [[CallingYourAttacks yells]] "Blue Shell!", retreating into his shell and flying right at Mario and Donkey Kong, Kong before [[SuicideAttack exploding and blasting the two off the road]]. That's right - he's the film's adaptation of the [[ThatOneAttack infamous Spiny Shell]] that has bedeviled many Shell]], the bane of ''many'' a ''VideoGame/MarioKart'' player.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'': The Koopa General initially appears to be a simple EliteMook; however, careful viewers will notice that he is a Koopa Paratroopa with a spiky blue shell. During the Rainbow Road sequence, after his vehicle is totaled, he throws off his helmet and [[CallingYourAttacks yells]] "Blue Shell!", retreating into his shell and flying right at Mario and Donkey Kong, before [[SuicideAttack exploding and blasting the two off the road]]. That's right - he's the film's adaptation of the [[ThatOneAttack infamous Spiny Shell]] that has bedeviled many a ''VideoGame/MarioKart'' player.
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* ''WebAnimation/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicCinematicUniverse'': In ''Knights and the Darkness Pt. I'', [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords Meetra Surik]] is approached on Nar Shaddaa by a mysterious man and his female companion who eventually decide to help in the fight against the Exchange. After they've helped storm Visquis' secret base with their lightsaber skills, they reveal themselves to be [[ComicBook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Zayne Carrick and Jarael]].

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* ''WebAnimation/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicCinematicUniverse'': In ''Knights ''Episode VI: Knights and the Darkness Pt. I'', [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords Meetra Surik]] is approached on Nar Shaddaa by a mysterious man and his female companion who eventually decide to help in the fight against the Exchange. After they've helped storm Visquis' secret base with their lightsaber skills, they reveal themselves to be [[ComicBook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Zayne Carrick and Jarael]].
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* The king and queen of Far, Far Away (and {{Deuteragonist}} Fiona's parents) from ''Franchise/{{Shrek}}'' are revealed at the end of the second film to also have come from a fairy tale: ''Literature/TheFrogPrince'', with King Harold being the frog in question.

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The king and queen of Far, Far Away (and {{Deuteragonist}} Fiona's parents) from ''Franchise/{{Shrek}}'' are revealed at the end of the second film to also have come from a fairy tale: ''Literature/TheFrogPrince'', with King Harold being the frog in question.question.
** ''WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish'': The Wolf who comes after Puss is billed in advertising as "the Big Bad Wolf", a character who already exists in the series. After their fourth encounter, he reveals that he's not based on a fairy tale character, he ''is'' a fairy tale character, [[TheGrimReaper Death]], who has come to claim Puss's last life for wasting his 8 lives and arrogantly thinking he was untouchable.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheAmazingMaurice'' gives the ratcatchers a mysterious leader, the Boss Man, who doesn't appear in ''Literature/TheAmazingMauriceAndHisEducatedRodents''. It turns out to actually be a WormThatWalks rat swarm, controlled by the Rat King.
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* ''Film/TheWaltonsHomecoming'', a 2021 reboot TV-movie for ''Series/TheWaltons'' was noticeably missing one of the kids, Ben. The sequel, ''Film/AWaltonsThanksgiving'' features the family befriending and ultimately adopting a poor little orphan boy called Red... who ultimately reveals that his real name is Ben.
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One solution that writers have utilized is to write a story that features those established characters...albeit in the guise of someone completely different. Sometimes, they have the name of another character, but act nothing like them. More often, they neither look like any famous character from the main work's canon nor even have that recognizable name. If done well, fans will speculate who that "mysterious character" is. Maybe they don't believe that the "new" character would be anyone special. Maybe they will think that the "new" character is a BadassNormal with a MysteriousPast. Or maybe they'll think that the "new" character will be a groundbreaking addition to a work's mythos. But, if done successfully, [[TemptingFate fans will certainly not think that]] [[OverlyLongGag "new" character]] is someone already established in a work's canon.

Until one day...[[WhamEpisode Wham!]] It turns out they were a canonical character after all!

This trick may also be used in adaptations. One of the main characters is properly introduced, looking like a CanonForeigner, absent in the original work. Later in the work (or even [[TheEndingChangesEverything in the end]]) this character reveals that he ''is'' a character from the original canon, usually pointing that that's an alternate, old or secret name of them. Alternatively, he undergoes the character's OriginStory ''during'' the series, rather than in the first episode or in a distant flashback, and then turns into the character from the original canon.

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One solution that writers have utilized is to write a story that features those established characters... albeit in the guise of someone completely different. Sometimes, they have the name of another character, but act nothing like them. More often, they neither look like any famous character from the main work's canon nor even have that recognizable name. If done well, fans will speculate who that "mysterious character" is. Maybe they don't believe that the "new" character would be anyone special. Maybe they will think that the "new" character is a BadassNormal with a MysteriousPast. Or maybe they'll think that the "new" character will be a groundbreaking addition to a work's mythos. But, if done successfully, [[TemptingFate fans will certainly not think that]] [[OverlyLongGag "new" character]] is someone already established in a work's canon.

Until one day... [[WhamEpisode Wham!]] It turns out they were a canonical character after all!

This trick may also be used in adaptations. One of the main characters is properly introduced, looking like a CanonForeigner, absent in the original work. Later in the work (or even [[TheEndingChangesEverything in the end]]) this character reveals that he ''is'' a character from the original canon, usually pointing that that's an alternate, old old, or secret name of them. Alternatively, he undergoes the character's OriginStory ''during'' the series, rather than in the first episode or in a distant flashback, and then turns into the character from the original canon.









* ''Film/EnolaHolmes2'' introduces a slew of original characters that don't have anything to do with either [[Literature/EnolaHolmes the books the film was based on]] or the greater ''Literature/SherlockHolmes'' mythos...except for [[spoiler:Mira Troy, who is revealed to be Moriarty reimagined into a black woman near the end of the film.]]

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* ''Film/EnolaHolmes2'' introduces a slew of original characters that don't have anything to do with either [[Literature/EnolaHolmes the books the film was based on]] or the greater ''Literature/SherlockHolmes'' mythos...except for [[spoiler:Mira Mira Troy, who is revealed to be Moriarty reimagined into a black woman near the end of the film.]]

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** Also, in ''Wonder Woman'', one of the members of TheSquad is a Native American tracker, simply referred to as The Chief. In one scene, he hints to Diana that he has some knowledge of her supernatural origins, and may be a [[MagicalNativeAmerican supernatural being]] himself. Although it's unclear whether future films from DC will elaborate on this, the general agreement is that he's this universe's version of Apache Chief from ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'', with the uncomfortable CaptainEthnic aspects toned down.
*** WordOfGod reveals he's actually Napi, a trickster hero of Blackfoot legend and a demi-god like Diana; though this doesn't exactly discount the "Apache Chief" theory.


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