History Main / CampUnsafeIsntSafeAnymore

Not to be confused with SafeZoneHopeSpot, where the characters never thought their location was all that safe in the first place. Will often be the result if you FailedASpotCheck. Also, this trope doesn't apply if the characters never realize the danger they were in.

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---->In the first book, one of the guardians of the Stone, who was in on the entire setup of its defenses, is TheDragon for that particular novel... and it ''still'' takes him nearly a full year before he dares to try to seize the Stone. And then he '''''still''''' gets [[{{Pun}} Stone]]-walled at the final layer. \\
Second book: The attacks are all done by someone who has ''no reason'' to be suspected at ''any'' point in time, because she's being possessed without her knowledge, and isn't even ''indirectly'' connected to any of the events. The events also only occur because the perpetrator discovered the knowledge he needed and laid the groundwork for the events ''fifty years ago''.\\
Third book: The perpetrator of most of the terrifying events going on around the school was one of the ''mapmakers'' of the school's secret passageways decades ago. Oh, and a shapeshifter, not that anyone knew that.\\
Fourth book: Again, one of the intended guardians was TheDragon. And he ''only'' gets smoked out because he got careless ''after'' the events he'd set in motion occurred. \\
Fifth book: The castle ''never'' gets attacked. Instead, the ''entire Ministry of Magic'' is deserted, without even token security forces. And the insiders in the Ministry aren't actually implied to have ''done'' anything in particular to pull that off.\\
Sixth book: One person pulled off a ''lot'' of tricks to achieve the attack - most of them were either copied from or learned because of Harry and company's actions over the ''entire rest of the series.'' Even then, he was only allowed to run that freely because he was being forced to do what he did, and Dumbledore was partly hoping to try to find a way to help him out of the coercion before he had to act. \\
Seventh book: Nearly the ''entire school'' rebels against the people in charge.

---->In the first book, one of the guardians of the Stone, who was in on the entire setup of its defenses, is TheDragon for that particular novel... and it ''still'' takes him nearly a full year before he dares to try to seize the Stone. And then he '''''still''''' gets [[IncrediblyLamePun Stone]]-walled at the final layer. \\

* In ''Film/DawnOfTheDead1978'' and [[Film/DawnOfTheDead2004 its remake]], the characters begin the film believing that a mall is the perfect hiding place, but later discover they cannot stay there forever because eventually they're going to run out of food.

The characters have found and occupied a place to rest, recuperate and plan without interference from their enemies. They consider the location as safe and secure as your average bank vault... until suddenly something happens and someone says, "We're not safe here anymore." The irony is that the site was never that safe and secure, despite what the characters thought. The location has been the site of zombie invasions and vampire attacks, there have been frequent murders, the place gets robbed on a daily basis, terrorists infiltrate, and the main characters have nearly died a dozen times.

* In ''Franchise/HarryPotter'', Hogwarts' status as a safe haven is mainly attributed to [[InformedAbility Dumbledore's hawk-like watch over the place]]. For all the cunning [[TheChessmaster he displays elsewhere]], it's worth noting that, in only six years, [[TheMole two Death Eaters slipped onto the payroll]] [[EvilTeacher as teachers]], one of them lugging around [[TheBigBad Lord Voldemort]] himself, [[SealedEvilInACan Slytherin's monster]] was unleashed on the grounds and carried out five attempted murders, a hunted (presumed) murderer slipped into the grounds repeatedly, once reaching as far in as the bedside of his presumed target, the horde of [[TheSoulless Dementors]] hunting said murderer slipped out of control repeatedly and tried to kill a student, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain a fascist-racist child torturer]] was legally [[TyrantTakesTheHelm instated as teacher and later Headmistress]] while the staff failed to pose effective resistance, [[BeneathSuspicion underestimation]] of [[BigBadWannabe Draco]] allowed a squad of Death Eaters to enter the heart of the castle with only a handful of defenders posted and the [[EverythingTryingToKillYou yearly near-death situations and almost bi-monthly grievous injuries]] [[WeirdnessMagnet Harry]] faces while within the grounds. It's no surprise that Hogwarts' blatant unsafeness is a running joke among the fans.

* ''Series/TheWalkingDead'': The main characters are investigating an old department store when the sheriff's deputy arrives and basically alerts all the zombies in the city to their presence by shooting at some of them. One of the characters says something like: "You just rang the dinner bell," as if the zombies pounding on the department store's glass doors ''already'' wouldn't have made them unsafe anyway. No, no... the sheriff got them in trouble when they would have been perfectly and completely safe otherwise.

* In ''Film/{{Admiral}}'', Admiral Kolchak's family is hiding from revolutionaries in a small house in Crimea, which they consider safe until the only loyal seaman comes with warnings that the revolutionary seamen are coming for them. It's [[RedOctober Russia, the year is 1917]], and it's a place close to a naval base to boot (Navy seamen were among the most hardcore revolutionaries), so it was naive to think it's possible to hide in this place.

Not to be confused with SafeZoneHopeSpot, where the characters never thought their location was all that safe in the first place. Will often be the result if you [[FailedaSpotCheck Failed a Spot Check]]. Also, this trope doesn't apply if the characters never realize the danger they were in.

** The [[ComicBook/TheWalkingDead original comic]] has the campsite thing, along with the survivors setting up shop in an apparently abandoned, gated subdivision. Very temporarily.

* In ''Film/DawnOfTheDead'' and [[Film/DawnOfTheDead2004 its remake]], the characters begin the film believing that a mall is the perfect hiding place, but later discover they cannot stay there forever because eventually they're going to run out of food.

* In ''ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'', the orphans must send a message that "The Last Safe Place is safe no more". Given [[CrapsackWorld the kind of world they live in]], it should come as no surprise that the Hotel Denouement wasn't all that safe to begin with.

* In the second Percy Jackson book, ''[[PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians Percy Jackson and the Sea of Monsters]]'', [[spoiler:Camp Half Blood]] is "no longer safe" because someone has poisoned Thalia's pine tree, which usually keeps the camp safe from outside monsters. However, the camp was never safe from anyone on the inside who wanted to hurt anyone else on the inside, as demonstrated by the ending of the first book.

** In the [[VideoGame/TheWalkingDead video game]], the characters set up camp in a barricaded motor inn, which to be fair actually does look safe...for about fifteen minutes until the power goes out. Despite the ever-increasing number of walkers and bandits, whether to stay the winter or move on becomes a major argument.

* In at least two of the ''Film/HarryPotter'' films (''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'' and ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire''), different characters state outright that "Hogwarts isn't safe anymore", which naturally leads to the question "When the hell was Hogwarts ever safe?" Later in the series, during ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Half-Blood Prince]]'', Harry actually says, "This is Hogwarts we're talking about. It's Dumbledore. What could be safer?" as if he hadn't been living through the previous five years. Hogwarts has been the site of murders and violence, the framing of innocents along with the permanent derailment of their careers, the attempted wrongful execution of the innocent, and the near deaths of many characters.

** Of course, most of the time the reason of Hogwarts's unsafeness is because Voldemort is targeting it. Usually because something he wants is there. And it's there ''because'' Hogwarts is the safest place, which makes it a self-defeating safety (quite like in ''PanicRoom'' where said room turns out dangerous because what the intruders want is inside).

[[note]]---->In the first book, one of the guardians of the Stone, who was in on the entire setup of its defenses, is TheDragon for that particular novel... and it ''still'' takes him nearly a full year before he dares to try to seize the Stone. And then he '''''still''''' gets [[IncrediblyLamePun Stone]]-walled at the final layer. \\

Seventh book: Nearly the ''entire school'' rebels against the people in charge.[[/note]]