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7th Feb '16 10:10:56 AM nombretomado
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* Cesare and Juan of ''Series/{{Borgia}}'' an unrelated show based on the same piece of history also use this trope. [[spoiler: Subverted, because it's revealed that Cesare didn't kill Juan. And then double subverted, because Juan'a other sibling his unsuspected, seemingly innocent little sister Lucrezia ''did'' kill him.]]
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* Cesare and Juan of ''Series/{{Borgia}}'' an unrelated show based on the same piece of history also use this trope. [[spoiler: Subverted, because it's revealed that Cesare didn't kill Juan. And then double subverted, because Juan'a other sibling his unsuspected, seemingly innocent little sister Lucrezia ''did'' kill him.]]

* Byzantine Emperor Isaakios II adored his brother Alexios and gave him many honors. Alexios repaid him by staging a coup, putting out his brother's eyes, imprisoning him, and crowning himself emperor as Alexios III. Isaakios' teenage son managed to escape his uncle's tyranny and showed back up on his doorstep with an army: [[TheCrusades The Fourth Crusade]]. Things went FromBadToWorse shortly thereafter, and Constantinople passed out of Byzantine hands for almost sixty years.
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* Byzantine Emperor Isaakios II adored his brother Alexios and gave him many honors. Alexios repaid him by staging a coup, putting out his brother's eyes, imprisoning him, and crowning himself emperor as Alexios III. Isaakios' teenage son managed to escape his uncle's tyranny and showed back up on his doorstep with an army: [[TheCrusades [[UsefulNotes/TheCrusades The Fourth Crusade]]. Things went FromBadToWorse shortly thereafter, and Constantinople passed out of Byzantine hands for almost sixty years.
3rd Feb '16 5:17:27 AM narm00
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* There are two ''TabletopGames/Yugioh cards based off of these two, Numbers 13 and 31.
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* There are two ''TabletopGames/Yugioh ''TabletopGames/YuGiOh'' cards based off of these two, Numbers 13 and 31.
24th Jan '16 9:06:39 AM nombretomado
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* Tambi and Bambi Baker from ''StrangersInParadise''. * During a brief DorkAge, that was thankfully swept away by ''InfiniteCrisis'', {{Supergirl}}'s father Zor-El hated his brother Jor, and sent Kara to Earth to kill [[{{Superman}} Jor-El's infant son]]. Or he just didn't get on with his brother, and knew that Kal-El would "infect" Earth with evil spirits from the Phantom Zone. Or... look never mind, [[AuthorsSavingThrow it's gone]]! * In ''SupermanAndBatmanGenerations'', Joel Kent, who was prenatally stripped of his Kryptonian superpowers by Gold Kryptonite exposure, was the Cain to his sister Kara's Abel, and in the same Biblical fashion ended up killing her when he got superpowers.
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* Tambi and Bambi Baker from ''StrangersInParadise''. ''ComicBook/StrangersInParadise''. * During a brief DorkAge, that was thankfully swept away by ''InfiniteCrisis'', {{Supergirl}}'s ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s father Zor-El hated his brother Jor, and sent Kara to Earth to kill [[{{Superman}} Jor-El's infant son]]. Or he just didn't get on with his brother, and knew that Kal-El would "infect" Earth with evil spirits from the Phantom Zone. Or... look never mind, [[AuthorsSavingThrow it's gone]]! * In ''SupermanAndBatmanGenerations'', ''ComicBook/SupermanAndBatmanGenerations'', Joel Kent, who was prenatally stripped of his Kryptonian superpowers by Gold Kryptonite exposure, was the Cain to his sister Kara's Abel, and in the same Biblical fashion ended up killing her when he got superpowers.
23rd Jan '16 7:55:22 AM Kakai
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Plume}}'', the eldest princes of Auru had this dynamic, with the twist on the story being that it was the younger who ended up killing the older.
19th Jan '16 4:28:59 PM TastySauce
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* ''Manga/ShoukokuNoAltair'': Egomaniac Sultan Balaban is the Cain and his kind-hearted younger brother Prince Beyazit is the Abel, however in a twist [[spoiler:Beyazit ends up killing Balaban to prevent him causing any more trouble]].
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* ''Manga/ShoukokuNoAltair'': Egomaniac Sultan Balaban is the Cain and his kind-hearted younger brother Prince Beyazit is the Abel, however in a twist [[spoiler:Beyazit ends up dethroning and killing Balaban to prevent him causing any more trouble]].end his tyranny]].
19th Jan '16 4:26:36 PM TastySauce
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* ''LightNovel/{{Baccano}}'' features a story arc centered around Eve Genoard desperately searching for her older brother Dallas. She frequently puts herself in severe danger for his sake, all the while proclaiming her devotion to him and her belief that he's a wonderful person. Meanwhile the audience sees through flashbacks that Dallas is actually the story's premier JerkAss, who mostly spends his time running around being a huge dick to EVERYONE he meets. Including Eve.

* ''Manga/BlueExorcist'': The tragic aspect of this ''almost'' happens to Rin (HotBlooded AntiAntiChrist) and Yukio (genius exorcist and Rin's younger twin brother) when the former discovers he's the son of Satan and then learns that the latter ''knew it all along'' and now wants to kill him ([[DefiedTrope they get better]]) but there ''are'' still hints that [[spoiler:Yukio is more susceptible to the dark side]].
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* ''Manga/BlueExorcist'': ''Manga/BlueExorcist'': ** The tragic aspect of this ''almost'' happens to Rin (HotBlooded AntiAntiChrist) and Yukio (genius exorcist and Rin's younger twin brother) when the former discovers he's the son of Satan and then learns that the latter ''knew it all along'' and now wants to kill him ([[DefiedTrope they get better]]) but there ''are'' still hints that [[spoiler:Yukio is more susceptible to the dark side]].

** As well as destroy and recreate the world so that his sister never suffers again. ** And again when [[spoiler: said little sister finds out and tries to stop him.]]

* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': Sasuke and Itachi Uchiha. To some degree, Hiashi and Hizashi Hyuga.
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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': ** Sasuke and Itachi Uchiha. To some degree, Hiashi and Hizashi Hyuga.

** Apparently Kurumada-sensei loved this trope very much because now in Next Dimension [[spoiler: we get the real Abel and Cain, and the Cain once again is the older one.]]
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** Apparently Kurumada-sensei loved Kurumada loves this trope very much because now in Next Dimension ''Next Dimension'' [[spoiler: we get the real Abel and Cain, and the Cain once again Cain is the older one.]]

* ''Manga/{{X1999}}'': Kamui and Fuuma, in another friendship variety. ** The sisters Hinoto and Kanoe count as well. The younger one, Kanoe, is the evil one here though.
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* ''Manga/{{X1999}}'': ''Manga/{{X1999}}'': ** Kamui and Fuuma, in another friendship variety. ** The sisters Hinoto and Kanoe count as well. The younger one, Kanoe, is the evil one here though.

* ''Manga/Zatch Bell'': Zatch and Zeno (Gash and Zeon in the original). Zeno hates Zatch because the latter received the powerful "Bao" spells. In the manga, they end up reconciling, but Zeno hates Zatch to the [[GeckoEnding end in the anime]].
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* ''Manga/Zatch Bell'': ''Manga/ZatchBell'': Zatch and Zeno (Gash and Zeon in the original). Zeno hates Zatch because the latter received the powerful "Bao" spells. In the manga, they end up reconciling, but Zeno hates Zatch to the [[GeckoEnding end in the anime]].
19th Jan '16 4:20:45 PM TastySauce
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Repair Dont Respond, there is never any need for three stars, and aversions don't belong here
** The character of "Korea" represents only South Korea, due to the obvious RealLife issues surrounding the two countries in the peninsule. When fanworkers create an OriginalCharacter representing North Korea (sometimes male, sometimes female), they and South Korea end up recreating this trope as well.
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** The character of "Korea" represents only South Korea, due to the obvious RealLife issues surrounding the two countries in the peninsule.peninsula. When fanworkers create an OriginalCharacter representing North Korea (sometimes male, sometimes female), they and South Korea end up recreating this trope as well.

* In ''Anime/BloodPlus'', a natural scientist finds Saya and Diva's mother's corpse and hatches the infants from their cocoons ([[OurVampiresAreDifferent it's complicated]]). As part of an experiment, he raises Saya as his own daughter and locks Diva in a tower to be a guinea pig. Saya is raised as a normal human girl; Diva is experimented on and denied anything more than a blanket and a meager amount of food. Saya grows up seeing humans as equals; Diva grows up seeing humans as torturers and also food. One day Saya meets Diva and lets her out. The resulting bloodbath started a conflict between the two sisters that lasted for over a century.
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* In ''Anime/BloodPlus'', a natural scientist finds Saya and Diva's mother's corpse and hatches the infants from their cocoons ([[OurVampiresAreDifferent it's complicated]]). As part of an experiment, he raises Saya as his own daughter and locks Diva in a tower to be a guinea pig. Saya is raised as a normal human girl; Diva is experimented on and denied anything more than a blanket and a meager meagre amount of food. Saya grows up seeing humans as equals; Diva grows up seeing humans as torturers and also food. One day Saya meets Diva and lets her out. The resulting bloodbath started a conflict between the two sisters that lasted for over a century.

** Secondary case with [[spoiler: the other two sons of Satan]] Mephisto Pheles (AKA Johann {{Faust}} V) and Amaimon: Mephisto is outgoing and clownish (similar to [[DGrayMan The Millennium Earl]], complete with umbrella) while Amaimon seems to be quieter and darker. *** To further contrast, Mephisto seems much more careful and meticulous - even if he seems to just be having fun most of the time. Amaimon seems rather reckless and immature, with CloudCuckooLander tendencies. Also, while both brothers seem to get along fairly well, they do clash at one point: [[spoiler:Amaimon wants to keep fighting Rin, even after they've begun doing damage to the school grounds, and even though Rin is beginning to go Berserk from Satan's flames. Mephisto does not like this, and promptly intervenes. He is able to restrain both Rin and Amaimon [[BewaretheSillyOnes at the same time,]] explaining to Amaimon why they had to stop fighting. But Amaimon wouldn't listen, and punches Mephisto in the face mid-sentence. Mephisto's retaliation is [[CrazyAwesome hilarious.]]]] Amaimon has not been seen since but, chances are, these two aren't going to be getting along so well when [[spoiler:Amaimon gets out of that [[ItMakesSenseinContext Kuchen Cuckoo House.]]]] *** Amaimon has been seen twice again; first time [[spoiler: He delivers a CurbStompBattle to Rin before Rin gets pulled away as a "lesson" from Mephisto to Rin]]. The second time [[spoiler: he's seen at the end of chapter 44 with a bunch of sticks/spears stabbed through him and holding him up in the air]]. Mephisto tells him he's not getting out [[spoiler: until he doesn't want to kill Rin anymore]]. * ''ChronoCrusade'' uses this trope not once, not twice, but ''three'' times.
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** Secondary case with [[spoiler: the other two sons of Satan]] Satan]], Mephisto Pheles (AKA Johann {{Faust}} V) and Amaimon: Mephisto is outgoing and clownish (similar to [[DGrayMan [[Manga/DGrayMan The Millennium Earl]], complete with umbrella) while Amaimon seems to be quieter and darker. *** To further contrast, Mephisto seems much more careful and meticulous - even if he seems to just be having fun most of the time. Amaimon seems rather reckless and immature, with CloudCuckooLander tendencies. Also, while both brothers seem to get along fairly well, they do clash at one point: [[spoiler:Amaimon wants to keep fighting Rin, even after they've begun doing damage to the school grounds, and even though Rin is beginning to go Berserk from Satan's flames. Mephisto does not like this, and promptly intervenes. He is able to restrain both Rin and Amaimon [[BewaretheSillyOnes at the same time,]] explaining to Amaimon why they had to stop fighting. But Amaimon wouldn't listen, and punches Mephisto in the face mid-sentence. Mephisto's retaliation is [[CrazyAwesome hilarious.]]]] Amaimon has not been seen since but, chances are, these two aren't going to be getting along so well when [[spoiler:Amaimon gets out of that [[ItMakesSenseinContext Kuchen Cuckoo House.]]]] *** Amaimon has been seen twice again; first time [[spoiler: He delivers a CurbStompBattle to Rin before Rin gets pulled away as a "lesson" from Mephisto to Rin]]. The second time [[spoiler: he's seen at the end of chapter 44 with a bunch of sticks/spears stabbed through him and holding him up in the air]]. Mephisto tells him he's not getting out [[spoiler: until he doesn't want to kill Rin anymore]]. * ''ChronoCrusade'' ''Manga/ChronoCrusade'' uses this trope not once, not twice, but ''three'' times.

* In ''[[CountCain Cain Saga]]'', Earl Cain is, ironically, the Abel to his psychopathic and [[BastardBastard illegitimate]] elder half-brother [[spoiler: Jizabel]]. * Heine is the Abel to Giovanni's Cain in ''Manga/DogsBulletsAndCarnage''.
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* In ''[[CountCain ''[[Manga/CountCain Cain Saga]]'', Earl Cain is, ironically, the Abel to his psychopathic and [[BastardBastard illegitimate]] elder half-brother [[spoiler: Jizabel]]. * Heine is the Abel to Giovanni's Cain in ''Manga/DogsBulletsAndCarnage''.''Manga/DogsBulletsAndCarnage'', although they aren't blood brothers but were simply raised in the same research facility by the same MadScientist "mother".

* Another childhood friends one: Miaka Yuuki and Yui Hongo in ''FushigiYuugi''. * ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'' has the champion of the G-Stone, Gai, and the champion of the J-Jewel, Soldato-J. Bonus points because the respective developers of the G-Stone and J-Jewel were actually named Cain and Abel. ** It's actually more of an [[AvertedTrope aversion]] of the standard formula. Cain and Abel weren't related (instead the leaders of their respective planets) and there was never any animosity between them. Cain harnessed the power of the G-Stone and created Galeon to protect his son Latio [[spoiler: (aka Mamoru)]] and fight the Zonders. Abel thought Cain was on to something and used the J-Jewels to create Arma and the J-Cyborgs/Arks. Plus, J only awakens his J-Jewel powers ''after'' he makes his ([[AntiHero sort of]]) HeelFaceTurn.
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* Another childhood friends one: Miaka Yuuki and Yui Hongo in ''FushigiYuugi''. * ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'' has the champion of the G-Stone, Gai, and the champion of the J-Jewel, Soldato-J. Bonus points because the respective developers of the G-Stone and J-Jewel were actually named Cain and Abel. ** It's actually more of an [[AvertedTrope aversion]] of the standard formula. Cain and Abel weren't related (instead the leaders of their respective planets) and there was never any animosity between them. Cain harnessed the power of the G-Stone and created Galeon to protect his son Latio [[spoiler: (aka Mamoru)]] and fight the Zonders. Abel thought Cain was on to something and used the J-Jewels to create Arma and the J-Cyborgs/Arks. Plus, J only awakens his J-Jewel powers ''after'' he makes his ([[AntiHero sort of]]) HeelFaceTurn.''Manga/FushigiYuugi''.

* Tsubasa and Souma Ohgami from ''KannazukiNoMiko'', though [[spoiler:Tsubasa isn't really a bad guy and undergoes a rather spectacular HeelFaceTurn late in the series.]] What's more, technically, they are both Necks of {{Orochi}}, only that Souma has a good reason to fight against his "heritage".
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* Tsubasa and Souma Ohgami from ''KannazukiNoMiko'', ''Manga/KannazukiNoMiko'', though [[spoiler:Tsubasa isn't really a bad guy and undergoes a rather spectacular HeelFaceTurn late in the series.]] What's more, technically, they are both Necks of {{Orochi}}, only that Souma has a good reason to fight against his "heritage".

* Prince Kaito from ''MurderPrincess'' is of TheEvilPrince variety. Though the actual Princess Alita (his younger sister) doesn't really fight him, as she previously [[FreakyFriday switched bodies]] with the ActionGirl Falis who handles the fighting part for her.
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* Prince Kaito from ''MurderPrincess'' ''Manga/MurderPrincess'' is of TheEvilPrince variety. Though the actual Princess Alita (his younger sister) doesn't really fight him, as she previously [[FreakyFriday switched bodies]] with the ActionGirl Falis who handles the fighting part for her.

** This can also describe the relationship between Naruto and Sasuke. ** Temari and Kankuro felt this way about Gaara at first as well. Though in their case they weren't 'enemies' to Gaara so much as 'filled with mind-numbing terror' by him.

*** Hinata and Neji's dads are identical twins, so genetically they're half siblings. Making this trope more obvious *** Except no one thinks about genetics in the series, so, socially, they're still seen as cousins. ** It's [[spoiler:recently come out that, the history of the Uchiha clan and Konoha is based on this. Essentially the Uchiha and Senju clans are descended from the elder and younger sons of the first ninja. The elder Uchiha brother was the Cain whilst the younger Senju brother was the Abel]]. *** It gets better. Turns out that these two men were the grandchildren of [[spoiler: a princess who ate the forbidden fruit from the God Tree, much as the Trope Namers were the sons of Eve.]] *** It gets even better.[[spoiler: Those brothers' chakra reincarnates throughout the generations; first into Madara and Hashirama and then into,you guessed it, Sasuke and Naruto.]]
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*** Hinata and Neji's dads are identical twins, so genetically they're half siblings. Making this trope more obvious *** Except no one thinks about genetics in the series, so, socially, they're still seen as cousins. ** It's [[spoiler:recently come out that, [[spoiler:revealed that the history of the Uchiha clan and Konoha is based on this. Essentially the Uchiha and Senju clans are descended from the elder and younger sons of the first ninja. The elder Uchiha brother was the Cain whilst the younger Senju brother was the Abel]]. *** It gets better.Abel]]. Turns out that these two men were the grandchildren of [[spoiler: a princess who ate the forbidden fruit from the God Tree, much as the Trope Namers were the sons of Eve.]] *** It gets even better.[[spoiler: Those brothers' chakra reincarnates throughout the generations; first into Madara and Hashirama and then into,you guessed it, Sasuke and Naruto.]]

* ''PrincessResurrection''. All the royal siblings virtually are fighting to the death for the throne except for the main character Hime who has no interest in it.
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* ''PrincessResurrection''.''Manga/PrincessResurrection''. All the royal siblings virtually are fighting to the death for the throne except for the main character Hime who has no interest in it.

* It's hard to avoid in ''RozenMaiden'', where ThereCanBeOnlyOne of seven sisters that survives [[spoiler: (unless that cryptic statement at the end of season two has anything to say about it)]]. Suigintou and Shinku in particular have exactly this relationship, although who is the betrayer and who is the good underdog switches around in different points of the timeline.
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* It's hard to avoid in ''RozenMaiden'', ''Manga/RozenMaiden'', where ThereCanBeOnlyOne of seven sisters that survives [[spoiler: (unless that cryptic statement at the end of season two has anything to say about it)]]. Suigintou and Shinku in particular have exactly this relationship, although who is the betrayer and who is the good underdog switches around in different points of the timeline.

** Also had Masumune (Cain) and Tsubaki (Abel)
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** Also had Masumune (Cain) and Tsubaki (Abel)(Abel).

** These two are notably twins with no idea who's older, and the Japanese word they use for their relationship is the incredibly vague 'kyoudai,' but because of the conventions of this trope many fans tend to treat Knives as the elder brother.
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** These two are notably twins with no idea who's older, and the Japanese word they use for their relationship is the incredibly vague 'kyoudai,' "brethren" but because of the conventions of this trope many fans tend to treat Knives as the elder brother.

*** Knives, on the other hand, commands 'eternal suffering to Vash the Stampede.' Though he's never quite willing to off him. * ''LightNovel/TrinityBlood'': The battling twins at the center of the story are literally named, "Cain and Abel." Care to guess which of these is the villain and which is the hero? (And to REALLY beat the biblical reference over your head, their little Crusnik "sister" is, of course, named Seth. And their common maternal figure is named Lilith. Right.) ** At least somewhat justified, given that the "siblings" were supposed to be the first born (or first created) of a new and improved human species. Initially subverted, as Cain made his first kill in an effort to remove someone he thought was coming between him and Abel. It went over about as well as you'd expect, leading to a more standard example of the trope. *** Also subverted in that it was Abel who first went after Cain because of the above murder.
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*** Knives, on the other hand, commands 'eternal suffering to Vash the Stampede.' Though he's never quite willing to off him. * ''LightNovel/TrinityBlood'': The battling twins at the center of the story are literally named, "Cain and Abel." Care to guess which of these is the villain and which is the hero? (And to REALLY beat the biblical reference over your head, their little Crusnik "sister" is, of course, named Seth. And their common maternal figure is named Lilith. Right.)\n** At least somewhat justified, given that the "siblings" were supposed to be the first born (or first created) of a new and improved human species. Initially subverted, as Cain made his first kill in an effort to remove someone he thought was coming between him and Abel. It went over about as well as you'd expect, leading to a more standard example of the trope.\n*** Also subverted ) Subverted in that it was Abel who first went after Cain because of the above murder.he murdered Lilith.

* Ditto with an older example-''VoltesV'': [[spoiler:Prince Heinel and Kenichi Go]]. And unlike in most cases of this trope, they have much in common, personality-wise.
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* Ditto with an older example-''VoltesV'': example - ''VoltesV'': [[spoiler:Prince Heinel and Kenichi Go]]. And unlike in most cases of this trope, they have much in common, personality-wise.

* Ditto with an older example-''VoltesV'': [[spoiler:Prince Heinel ''Manga/ShoukokuNoAltair'': Egomaniac Sultan Balaban is the Cain and Kenichi Go]]. And unlike his kind-hearted younger brother Prince Beyazit is the Abel, however in most cases of this trope, they have much in common, personality-wise.a twist [[spoiler:Beyazit ends up killing Balaban to prevent him causing any more trouble]].

** Although they're both heroes, ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} and Havok frequently find themselves fighting against each other. *** In fact, it happens so often, fans sometimes forget that Cyclops and Havok are quite close in 616 continuity (that is, whenever Cyclops isn't being a JerkAss and Havok isn't plagued by the GreenEyedMonster or BrainwashedAndCrazy). On the other hand, they unabashedly despise one another in Ultimate and Misfits continuity, making this trope much more applicable to those universes. *** Played straight between Cyclops and his other brother Vulcan. *** Played even more straight between Havok and Vulcan after the latter killed their father.
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** Although they're both heroes, ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} and Havok frequently find themselves fighting against each other. *** In fact, it happens so often, fans sometimes forget that Cyclops and Havok are quite close in 616 continuity (that is, whenever Cyclops isn't being a JerkAss and Havok isn't plagued by the GreenEyedMonster or BrainwashedAndCrazy). On the other hand, they unabashedly despise one another in Ultimate and Misfits continuity, making this trope much more applicable to those universes. *** other. Played straight between Cyclops and his other brother Vulcan. *** Played Vulcan, and played even more straight between Havok and Vulcan after the latter killed their father.

** {{Wolverine}} and ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} aren't brothers ''per se'', but they were both products of the Weapon X project, and at one point it was (wrongly) believed Sabretooth was Wolverine's father. *** Though Creator/ChrisClaremont has suggested that Sabertooth being Wolverine's father ''was'' the original plan. **** And in the first arc of Paul Jenkin's ''Origin'', Wolverine's half-brother Dog was strongly implied to be a young Sabretooth, but later stories disprove this. However, Dog and Wolverine still have an antagonistic relationship, so they fit here.
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** {{Wolverine}} and ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}} aren't brothers ''per se'', but they were both products of the Weapon X project, and at one point it was (wrongly) believed Sabretooth was Wolverine's father. *** Though father. Creator/ChrisClaremont has suggested that Sabertooth being Wolverine's father ''was'' the original plan. **** And in the first arc of Paul Jenkin's ''Origin'', Wolverine's half-brother Dog was strongly implied to be a young Sabretooth, but later stories disprove this. However, Dog and Wolverine still have an antagonistic relationship, so they fit here.plan.

*** Though if you want to get technical, since X-23 is a female clone of Wolverine, she is actually more like Daken's aunt.

** Lord Stannis Baratheon and Lord Renly Baratheon, but it's difficult to determine which of them is the bad guy there. Stannis is over a decade older and is the rightful heir to their older brother's throne, but Renly attempts to usurp his place. [[spoiler: However since Stannis is the one who had a sorceress assassinate his brother, he looks like the bad guy.]] *** It's worth noting that, in the television series adaptation ''Series/GameOfThrones'', Renly didn't want the throne at first and was persuaded to make his bid for kingship by the Tyrells, partly because no one in the Seven Kingdoms wants Stannis for their king. *** It's also worth noting that Renly ''was'' going to kill Stannis, he just never got the chance. From this peerspective, Stannis' actions could look like self-defence. Also, Renly shows little remorse over the possibility of killing Stannis, while Stannis is clearly very upset over Renly's death.
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** Lord Stannis Baratheon and Lord Renly Baratheon, but it's difficult to determine which of them is the bad guy there. Stannis is over a decade older and is the rightful heir to their older brother's throne, but Renly attempts to usurp his place. [[spoiler: However since Stannis is the one who had a sorceress assassinate his brother, he looks like the bad guy.]] *** ]] It's worth noting that, in the television series adaptation ''Series/GameOfThrones'', Renly didn't want the throne at first and was persuaded to make his bid for kingship by the Tyrells, partly because no one in the Seven Kingdoms wants Stannis for their king. *** king. It's also worth noting that Renly ''was'' going to kill Stannis, he just never got the chance. From this peerspective, perspective, Stannis' actions could look like self-defence. Also, Renly shows little remorse over the possibility of killing Stannis, while Stannis is clearly very upset over Renly's death.

*** The Blackfyres themselves are the Cains to the Targaryen Abels. They bit the hand that feeds and were punished to err the earth without ever finding neither a home nor solace in their trek.

** It looks ''very much'' like this is going to happen with Remiel and Zahariel in the Dark Angels books in the series. [[spoiler:Ultimately averted: Remiel has already been killed.]]
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** It looks ''very much'' very much like this is going to happen with Remiel and Zahariel in the Dark Angels books in the series.''Dark Angels'' books. [[spoiler:Ultimately averted: Remiel has already been killed.]]

* ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'': [[spoiler: Eragon and Murtagh]]. Who is who depends on your [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation personal interpretation]].
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* ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'': [[spoiler: Eragon [[spoiler:Eragon and Murtagh]]. Who is who depends on your [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation personal interpretation]].

*** The point was that the twins weren't as far apart morally as they (or just Jaina) might have thought. At any rate, Vader was worse than Caedus, and yet he was given the chance to be redeemed at the end. *** Jaina realizes this after [[spoiler:she kills him]]. Hence her breakdown where she throws Jagged Fel away from her with the Force when he [[spoiler:tries to move Jacen's body]]. [[spoiler:(Plus, Jaina thought that the "I want to save my loved ones" thing was a trick. She didn't have much reason to believe that he ''wasn't'' trying to trick her, what with him kidnapping his daughter and all.)]]

*** It turns out that they were right about Jaina and Jacen, but about a decade early.

** Also, in Omen of the Stars, [[spoiler: Ivypaw gets jealous of the attention Dovepaw is getting and is tricked into joining forces with the Dark Forest. This was averted later though.]]
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** Also, in Omen ''Omen of the Stars, Stars'', [[spoiler: Ivypaw gets jealous of the attention Dovepaw is getting and is tricked into joining forces with the Dark Forest. This was averted later though.]]

* In William King's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} SpaceWolf novel ''Wolfblade'', Ragnar is warned that the brother of one House's lord died very suddenly and suspiciously.
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* In William King's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} SpaceWolf SpaceWolf'' novel ''Wolfblade'', Ragnar is warned that the brother of one House's lord died very suddenly and suspiciously.

*** Averted by Boromir and Faramir. They are very different in personality, but they love and respect each other.
18th Jan '16 12:07:09 PM therubberanimals
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* ''Series/OobiAtWork'': Oobi was revealed to have a long-lost sister, who kidnapped him and nearly tortured him because of "events at the mall twenty years ago." Thankfully, Boss and Oobi's assistant Secretary clear things up before Oobi is harmed.
15th Jan '16 8:56:42 AM Adept
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* Sisters Rally and Rosa Cheyenne fall into this in ''SilentMoebius.'' In this case, the elder sister (Rally) is the good one.
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* Sisters Rally and Rosa Cheyenne fall into this in ''SilentMoebius.''Manga/SilentMobius.'' In this case, the elder sister (Rally) is the good one.
13th Jan '16 10:31:46 AM Wildstar93
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* In ''The Cat Master'', a house cat named Buddy is called by his elderly father through telepathy to become the new Cat Master, ruler of all cats. His older brother Jett, a feral cat, hears the message and is insanely jealous, drawing Buddy's friends Zekki and Pris away to lure him out into the open. It culminates in him trying to persuade everyone to not accept Buddy as the new Cat Master, saying that it's against the Law for Indoor cats and Outdoor cats to mingle. But when Buddy wins the crowd over, Jett attacks, and as they fight in a tree, they fall into the water in a golf course, where Jett tries to drown Buddy. Buddy finally kills him, saving his friends from further attacks from the feral tomcat.
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