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14th Jul '16 8:25:29 AM storymasterb
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** ''Anime/CardfightVanguard'' usually averts the trope because the most powerful cards are also those depicting major lore characters. Perhaps the most notable exception is [[http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Harmonics_Messiah Harmonics Messiah]], a being of incredible power which converted a chunk of the invading Link Joker clan into non-hostile inhabitants of the planet Cray and is treated in near-deific terms by the lore, yet in game is a promo Stride with no effect.

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** * ''Anime/CardfightVanguard'' usually averts the trope because the most powerful cards are also those depicting major lore characters. Perhaps the most notable exception is [[http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Harmonics_Messiah Harmonics Messiah]], a being of incredible power which converted a chunk of the invading Link Joker clan into non-hostile inhabitants of the planet Cray and is treated in near-deific terms by the lore, yet in game is a promo Stride with no effect.
14th Jul '16 8:25:11 AM storymasterb
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** ''Anime/CardfightVanguard'' usually averts the trope because the most powerful cards are also those depicting major lore characters. Perhaps the most notable exception is [[http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Harmonics_Messiah Harmonics Messiah]], a being of incredible power which converted a chunk of the invading Link Joker clan into non-hostile inhabitants of the planet Cray and is treated in near-deific terms by the lore, yet in game is a promo Stride with no effect.
18th Jun '16 6:47:58 PM nombretomado
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* In ''LegendOfTheFiveRings'', minor, often useless characters can be major players in the game due to nothing more than raw fan popularity. Finding a faction with an AscendedExtra isn't the exception, but the rule. Toku and Bayushi Tangen were chump sacrificial characters when introduced. The former's daughter now leads the Scorpion Clan as a regent, and the latter's students now comprise the clan's BigDamnHeroes troops.

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* In ''LegendOfTheFiveRings'', ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings'', minor, often useless characters can be major players in the game due to nothing more than raw fan popularity. Finding a faction with an AscendedExtra isn't the exception, but the rule. Toku and Bayushi Tangen were chump sacrificial characters when introduced. The former's daughter now leads the Scorpion Clan as a regent, and the latter's students now comprise the clan's BigDamnHeroes troops.
3rd Jun '16 3:31:40 PM DaibhidC
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* Killer Robot Games' Legendary Showdown is a card game which draws material from three webcomics: Dr. McNinja, Girl Genius, and Gunnerkrigg Court. While the Dr. McNinja cards are relatively accurate in terms of their relative power, the second edition cards (GG and GK) are much less consistent with their source material.

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* Killer Robot Games' Legendary Showdown ''Legendary Showdown'' is a card game which draws material from three webcomics: Dr. McNinja, Girl Genius, ''Webcomic/DrMcNinja'', ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'', and Gunnerkrigg Court. ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt''. While the Dr. McNinja ''Dr. [=McNinja=]'' cards are relatively accurate in terms of their relative power, the second edition cards (GG and GK) are much less consistent with their source material.
3rd Jun '16 1:10:47 PM Pinokio
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** ''Franchise/MagicTheGathering'' novels don't always reflect the in-game properties of the cards they represent, especially the pre-revision novels. In ''Arena'', an Ironclaw Orc blocks a Grizzly Bear. The cards are Grizzly Bears and Ironclaw Orcs, both are two power and two toughness; the card of Ironclaw Orcs explicitly cannot block creatures of power greater than one. Benalish Hero, a common card with a weak one power and one toughness, is described in the story as one of the best, most elite fighters out there, having undergone some elite training, without explaining how this character would survive against stronger opponents. The promotional "Sewers of Estark" card is an instant granting unblockability to an attacker or no damage to attackers if blocking, while the in-story location has nothing to do with blocking and would be better suited as a land card. In ''Shattered Chains'', Dingus Egg and Nova Pentacle are used for teleportation, while the cards are about dealing and redirecting damage. There is also the Stone Brain, an artifact unique to the story that can take away one's spellcasting ability, described as a Living Artifact mistaken for a Mana Vault, which neither have the ability to do in the game. In ''Final Sacrifice'', the Dragon Engine is a massive siege weapon, while the card has only three toughness. The Lord of Atlantis is an elemental sea god while the card is a merfolk. The Keldon Warlord in the story has power based on rage, while the card has power and toughness based on the number of creatures the player controls. Force of Nature is a nature based spell, giving greater mana and godlike power to the caster, while the card is a creature known for its high power and toughness, and instead of giving mana, costs more mana due a high casting cost and high upkeep cost.

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** ''Franchise/MagicTheGathering'' novels don't always reflect the in-game properties of the cards they represent, especially the pre-revision novels. In ''Arena'', an Ironclaw Orc blocks a Grizzly Bear. The cards are Grizzly Bears and Ironclaw Orcs, both are two power and two toughness; the card of Ironclaw Orcs explicitly cannot block creatures of power greater than one. Benalish Hero, a common card with a weak one power and one toughness, is described in the story as one of the best, most elite fighters out there, having undergone some elite training, without explaining how this character would survive against opponents that are stronger opponents.in the game, which includes forest animals. The promotional "Sewers of Estark" card is an instant granting unblockability to an attacker or no damage to attackers if blocking, while the in-story location has nothing to do with blocking and would be better suited as a land card. In ''Shattered Chains'', Dingus Egg and Nova Pentacle are used for teleportation, while the cards are about dealing and redirecting damage. There is also the Stone Brain, an artifact unique to the story that can take away one's spellcasting ability, described as a Living Artifact mistaken for a Mana Vault, which neither have the ability to do in the game. In ''Final Sacrifice'', the Dragon Engine is a massive siege weapon, while the card has only three toughness. The Lord of Atlantis is an elemental sea god while the card is a merfolk. The Keldon Warlord in the story has power based on rage, while the card has power and toughness based on the number of creatures the player controls. Force of Nature is a nature based spell, giving greater mana and godlike power to the caster, while the card is a creature known for its high power and toughness, and instead of giving mana, costs more mana due a high casting cost and high upkeep cost.
3rd Jun '16 12:59:50 PM Pinokio
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** ''Franchise/MagicTheGathering'' novels don't always reflect the in-game properties of the cards they represent, especially the pre-revision novels. In ''Arena'', an Ironclaw Orc blocks a Grizzly Bear. The cards are Grizzly Bears and Ironclaw Orcs, both are two power and two toughness; the card of Ironclaw Orcs explicitly cannot block creatures of power greater than one. Benalish Hero, a common card with a weak one power and one toughness, is described in the story as one of the best, most elite fighters out there, having undergone some elite training, without explaining how this character would survive against stronger opponents. The promotional "Sewers of Estark" card is an instant granting unblockability to an attacker or no damage to attackers if blocking, while the in-story location has nothing to do with blocking and would be better suited as a land card. In ''Shattered Chains'', Dingus Egg and Nova Pentacle are used for teleportation, while the cards are about dealing and redirecting damage. There is also the Stone Brain, an artifact unique to the story that can take away one's spellcasting ability, described as a Living Artifact mistaken for a Mana Vault, which neither have the ability to do in the game. In ''Final Sacrifice'', the Dragon Engine is a massive siege weapon, while the card has only three toughness. The Lord of Atlantis is an elemental sea god while the card is a merfolk. The Keldon Warlord in the story has power based on rage, while the card has power and toughness based on the number of creatures the player controls. Force of Nature is a nature based spell, giving greater mana and godlike power to the caster, while the card is a creature known for its high power and toughness, and instead of giving mana, costs more mana due a high casting cost and high upkeep cost.
30th May '16 1:43:55 AM emillang1000
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*** There is also something to be said about the lore of rarity in the comic. Originally, stars indicated levels of rarity, in a very obvert PowerEqualsRarity way. Blue-Eyes White Dragon, for instance, is a level 8 monster, and only FOUR COPIES existed in the entire game. Level 7s were presumably also extremely rare, with probably only a handful existing in their own right (Kaiba was notably shocked when Yugi played Summoned Skull, at the time a Level 7 monster). This would explain why completing Exodia had "never been done before!" - if there were literally only a dozen or so "Exodia the Forbidden One" cards, and all the other pieces were equally as rare, the chances of ANYONE actually owning all four, let alone drawing them in a single game, was astronomically low. And, as most players were shown to only control level 1 through 4 monsters (which were presumably topped out at around 1200 attack, given the star levels originally shown), most would have only heard RUMORS of unbelievably-rare cards like Red-Eyes Black Dragon, Summoned Skull, Dark Magician, and Blue-Eyes White Dragon, which could end the game in one attack (remember players originally had only 2000 LP, so one hit from a Blue-Eyes if you had a face-up 1000 Attack monster - a presumably otherwise-decent monster), and only a tiny cabal of people even knowing that something as gamebreakingly-powerful as Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon even existed. However, while this idea makes for a great story in a comic, it's an ''abysmal'' business model. If there really ''were'' only four Blue-Eyes White Dragon cards in existence AND they were legal, they would each cost thousands upon thousands of dollars, because someone who had even one in their deck would have a monster that literally no-one else could actually beat in a head-to-head battle, which would quickly kill the allure of the game. Instead, in real-life, such iconic and powerful cards were made commonplace, and as such became immediately nerfed, since every Tom, Dick, and Harry who bought a Kaiba Starter Deck or three had their hands on a Blue-Eyes White Dragon and could contend with everyone else who did.
22nd May '16 4:34:01 AM Quanyails
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*** Incidently, the newest expansion set contains a new version of some of the most iconic characters, including Deathwing, which is much better than its original version.

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*** Incidently, the newest an expansion set contains a new version of some of the most iconic characters, including Deathwing, which is much better than its original version.
22nd May '16 4:33:14 AM Quanyails
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** One of the most useful cards in the TCG was Cleffa, a baby Pokemon with pitiful stats in-game. The TCG version had an attack that let you completley refresh your hand for 1 Energy (or 0 Energy in the remade version), and was very difficult to actually damage due to the Baby Rule. It got to the point where most competitive decks included specific cards to counter Cleffa, an idea that's laughable to videogame players.

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** One of the most useful cards in the TCG was Cleffa, a baby Pokemon with pitiful stats in-game. The TCG version had an attack that let you completley completely refresh your hand for 1 Energy (or 0 Energy in the remade version), and was very difficult to actually damage due to the Baby Rule. It got to the point where most competitive decks included specific cards to counter Cleffa, an idea that's laughable to videogame players.
1st May '16 2:52:41 AM Hylarn
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* Amusingly, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyRecordKeeper'' got the ''video game'' version of this. As a MassivelyMultiplayerCrossover between most of the major ''Final Fantasy'' titles, many characters, heroes, villians, and side, are represented, each with varying levels of PowerCreepPowerSeep applied to them, but also most of them being stronger than ''the main character.'' However, the epitome of this has to go to Echo, a collaboration character from another ''Final Fantasy'' mobile game that [[NoExportForYou only exists in Japan.]] She's also a side character at that. However, upon arriving in ''FFRK'', she received a weapon from the gacha that power creeped '''almost all defensive [[LimitBreak Soul Breaks]] ever''' by adding Hastega to normal defensive buffs. Non-Japanese players started complaining almost immediately about how she had basically outclassed Tyro (the main character) and ''Y'shtola'' (an extremely popular ''FFXIV'' character) in one fell swoop.
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* Amusingly, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyRecordKeeper'' got the ''video game'' version of this. As a MassivelyMultiplayerCrossover between most of the major ''Final Fantasy'' titles, many characters, heroes, villians, and side, are represented, each with varying levels of PowerCreepPowerSeep applied to them, but also most of them being stronger than ''the main character.'' However, the epitome of this has to go to Echo, a collaboration character from another ''Final Fantasy'' mobile game that [[NoExportForYou only exists in Japan.]] She's also a side character at that. However, upon arriving in ''FFRK'', she received a weapon from the gacha that power creeped '''almost all defensive [[LimitBreak Soul Breaks]] ever''' by adding Hastega to normal defensive buffs. Non-Japanese players started complaining almost immediately about how she had basically outclassed Tyro (the main character) and ''Y'shtola'' (an extremely popular ''FFXIV'' character) in one fell swoop.
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