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1st Jan '17 4:15:43 PM MrDeath
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* Any video game, mostly mobile titles, that involves mixing and matching various characters or weapons across an entire franchise is inevitably subject to this, due to the difficulty of being able to properly represent every single aspect of a franchise in terms of power without sacrificing gameplay balance.
31st Dec '16 12:00:54 PM Kayube
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** The MagicPokerEquation is another factor that can make identical cards seem stronger in the anime and manga than reality; the fictional players don't have to rely on blind luck to draw the cards that make up their strategy, so cards and combos that are AwesomeButImpractical in real life can be more reliable in fiction.
26th Dec '16 5:40:05 PM OmegaMetroid
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** Segami has more utility than [[{{VideoGame/Neptunia}} Purple Heart]][[note]]Segami's ability converts your highest Element total to the Element that your enemy is weak to. Purple Heart provides a +55% damage bonus and 6-8% regen[[/note]]. This is despite the fact that Neptune/Purple Heart is ''the main character of the franchise'', and Segami is from a crossover spinoff. '''Nepgear''' provides better damage than Neptune, and she's Neptune's younger sister!

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** Segami has more utility than [[{{VideoGame/Neptunia}} Purple Heart]][[note]]Segami's ability converts your highest Element total to the Element that your enemy is weak to. Purple Heart provides a +55% damage bonus and 6-8% regen[[/note]]. This is despite the fact that Neptune/Purple Heart is ''the main character of the franchise'', and Segami is from a crossover spinoff. '''Nepgear''' provides better damage than Neptune, and she's Neptune's younger sister!sister![[note]]Note that this would be [[VideoGame/HyperdimensionNeptuniaMk2 the first time]] Nepgear took the lead role from her older sister...[[/note]]
18th Dec '16 6:48:41 PM SonicGamer07
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* Any video game, mostly mobile titles, that involves mixing and matching various characters or weapons across an entire franchise is inevitably subject to this, due to the difficulty of being able to properly represent every single aspect of a franchise in terms of power without sacrificing gameplay balance.
13th Dec '16 5:17:09 PM Doug86
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* The [[CthulhuMythos Call of Cthulhu]] LCG lets you play Cthulhu himself, and he can be killed. Granted, it's ''very hard'', but...it still feels wrong.

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* The [[CthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Call of Cthulhu]] LCG lets you play Cthulhu himself, and he can be killed. Granted, it's ''very hard'', but...it still feels wrong.
30th Oct '16 5:54:22 AM elemt
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** Ludevic is a MadScientist famous for the power and variation of his created monstrosities, but many were disappointed when after years of showing up through flavor text and his creations he appeared in person. Unexpectedly Blue/Red, he allows players to draw a card at the end of their turn if they've hurt someone other than you. The flavor connection is weak, most were hoping that Innistrad's most famous necro-alchemist would feature necro-alchemy in a clear fashion, and mechanically it's very underwhelming; not effective as an incentive not to attack you, and its ability is often easier for your ''enemies'' to exploit, as they can trigger it using any number of beneficial self-damaging cards while you have to be more aggressive.
3rd Oct '16 11:23:51 PM FurryKef
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* ''HearthstoneHeroesOfWarcraft'' both uses and averts this trope. Many of the most powerful cards in the game are very well-known characters such as Sylvanas Windrunner, Alexstrasza and Tirion Fordring. Many of the most powerful and famous characters aren't represented on a card, but instead represent a character class (Medivh, Grommash Hellscream, Anduin Wrynn, etc.) However, there are several cards that have power way above or below the level that lore would appoint them. Some examples:

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* ''HearthstoneHeroesOfWarcraft'' both uses and averts this trope. Many of the most powerful cards in the game are very well-known characters such as Sylvanas Windrunner, Alexstrasza and Tirion Fordring. Many of the most powerful and famous characters aren't represented on a card, but instead represent a character class (Medivh, Grommash Garrosh Hellscream, Anduin Wrynn, etc.) However, there are several cards that have power way above or below the level that lore would appoint them. Some examples:
9th Sep '16 12:51:02 AM SonicGamer07
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* ''VideoGame/PhantasyStarOnline2es'':
** In-story, More is up there with the main characters, and is one of the three starting core members of the Darker Busters. In gameplay, More is the ''weakest'' Weaponoid in the game, handed to you for free and possessing a piddling attack buff with regen bonus.
** Aurora, in-story, is a ''Photoner'', AKA the almighty precursors to the ARKS and who founded their existence, and [[spoiler:becomes a Genesis Weapon, one of the strongest weapons in the story.]] Her Chip? A 12★ that adds a whole '''+20%''' to your damage, and for every three standard attacks you land, your damage goes up... by 500. Not 500''%'', just ''500''. She easily beats pre-balance Salus Punisher as the worst 12★ to ever exist.
** Until Yamigarasu was introduced, no endgame player would be caught dead without Saga, whose status damage made him a staple in many endgame decks. In ''[=PSO2=]'', Saga is a side character who exists as Katori's straight man and has zero plot relevance.
** Segami has more utility than [[{{VideoGame/Neptunia}} Purple Heart]][[note]]Segami's ability converts your highest Element total to the Element that your enemy is weak to. Purple Heart provides a +55% damage bonus and 6-8% regen[[/note]]. This is despite the fact that Neptune/Purple Heart is ''the main character of the franchise'', and Segami is from a crossover spinoff. '''Nepgear''' provides better damage than Neptune, and she's Neptune's younger sister!
** Arguably, Hatsune Miku was marginally less useful than Luka, back when Yamigarasu didn't exist[[note]]Miku restores CP when a Just Attack connects. Luka grants Mirage affliction to normal attacks, which can be paired with Saga for high-damage combos[[/note]]. Nowadays, Luka is useless due to Yamigarasu obsoleting status affliction Chips.
** Rina is a Game Breaker 12★, but in [[Anime/PhantasyStarOnline2TheAnimation the anime]], she's more or less a love interest who spends half of her important scenes as a DamselInDistress. Itsuki, who is TheProtagonist, and Aika, who is [[spoiler:a secret agent from Oracle and Itsuki's connection to ARKS]], don't hold a candle to Rina's Chip in ''es''.
9th Sep '16 12:49:29 AM SonicGamer07
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* Amusingly, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyRecordKeeper'' got the ''video game'' version of this. As a MassivelyMultiplayerCrossover between most of the major ''Final Fantasy'' titles, many characters, heroes, villians, and side, are represented, each with varying levels of PowerCreepPowerSeep applied to them, but also most of them being stronger than ''the main character.'' However, the epitome of this has to go to Echo, a collaboration character from another ''Final Fantasy'' mobile game that [[NoExportForYou only exists in Japan.]] She's also a side character at that. However, upon arriving in ''FFRK'', she received a weapon from the gacha that power creeped '''almost all defensive [[LimitBreak Soul Breaks]] ever''' by adding Hastega to normal defensive buffs. Non-Japanese players started complaining almost immediately about how she had basically outclassed Tyro (the main character) and ''Y'shtola'' (an extremely popular ''FFXIV'' character) in one fell swoop.

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* Amusingly, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyRecordKeeper'' got ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyRecordKeeper'':
** To avoid confusing players,
the ''video game'' version of this. As a MassivelyMultiplayerCrossover between most of developers usually try to use weapons without shared names for Soul Break relics. This sometimes results in unremarkable items in the major ''Final Fantasy'' titles, many characters, heroes, villians, original games becoming valuable items in this game. Most prominent is Hope's Ninurta: in ''FFXIII'', it's a first-tier (out of three) weapon and side, are represented, each widely considered to be one of his ''worst'' boomerangs—and it's his '''Burst''' Soul Break weapon!
*** It happened again
with varying levels Lightning. Her Burst Soul Break weapon was Overture, her iconic gunblade from ''FFXIII-2''. Her Overflow Soul Break weapon? Gladius, another first-tier weapon and a wholly-unremarkable one for Lightning on top of PowerCreepPowerSeep applied to them, but also most of them that.
*** Krile's Fire Lash, which was almost useless in FFV, contains the best magic buff in the game.
** Echo got hit with this; despite
being stronger than ''the a FairyCompanion to the main character.'' However, the epitome of this has to go to Echo, a collaboration character from another of a ''Final Fantasy'' mobile game spin-off, she got a Relic that [[NoExportForYou only exists in Japan.]] She's also endowed upon her a Soul Break that gave the entire party DEF and RES boosts '''and''' Hastega. Not to mention this ability could be stacked on top of pre-existing Soul Breaks such as Sentinel Grimoire, which had players scratching their heads at why a basically-unknown side character at that. However, upon arriving in ''FFRK'', she received a weapon from got one of the gacha best Soul Breaks in the game. This was later rectified pre-release with a quick change that power creeped '''almost all defensive [[LimitBreak made the buff to be explicitly anti-MAG only, vastly reducing its viability.
** Danjuro, the strongest dagger in FFXII, is one of the weakest weapons in this game. It was released as one of the first 5*s and is now an obsolete off-banner relic. Meanwhile, the Orichalcum Dirk, a middle-of-the-pack dagger, contains Vaan's Burst
Soul Breaks]] ever''' by adding Hastega to normal defensive buffs. Non-Japanese players started complaining almost immediately about how she had basically outclassed Tyro (the main character) Break, widely considered the best in the game.
** Averted in some cases. Sephiroth's Masamune is weak
and ''Y'shtola'' (an extremely popular ''FFXIV'' character) obsolete, but this was changed by the release of the Masamune-Shinuchu. It's the same sword, except with a Burst Soul Break and blood on its hilt.
** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'', Platinum Sword is an unremarkable sword that comes
in an awkward time and gets outpaced by Power Creep. Heck, if you're leveled up, you can skip it. In this game, it gives Ramza the infamous Shout SB, which singlehandedly obsoleted every other damage buff ability in the game and is thus one fell swoop.
of the most sought-after weapons.
23rd Aug '16 7:19:41 PM case
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If the story has an ExpandedUniverse continuity, it may also draw cards from there or make card flavor text from it.

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If the story has an ExpandedUniverse continuity, it may also draw cards from there or make card flavor text from it.
it. For the video game equivalents, see OverratedAndUnderleveled and UnderratedAndOverLeveled.
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