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16th Apr '16 6:47:15 PM DrOO7
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* An episode of the {{Lifetime}} series ''Any Day Now'' had the dark-skinned Renee clashing with her light-skinned campaign manager (she was running for DA), feeling that every suggestion the woman made was an example of this trope. But during a huge argument, Renee was shocked when the woman accused ''her'' of colorism. It turns out that what Renee saw as standing up for herself and embracing her complexion, the other woman perceived as insulting her for being fair-skinned and of biracial heritage.
10th Apr '16 2:32:45 AM Eagal
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** The animators were already slowly lightening Robin's skin tone before the Time Skip, but after that, ''all bets were off''. It's jarring, considering that she once had the darkest skin tone of any other Straw Hat and now, she's suddenly one of the lightest. [[http://onepieceirks.tumblr.com/post/41390433531/xarciel-bodyfleur-onepieceirks-im-going These posts]] elaborate more on the issue (not only about Robin, but other characters, as well).
** This is different from the manga where all the main characters have always had extremely pale skin.
8th Apr '16 7:42:00 PM Naram-Sin
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* Contemporary depictions of Eliza Harris (who inspired her namesake in ''Literature/UncleTomsCabin'') and her heroic escape from slavery with her grandson on her arms by leaping across the ice over the Ohio River universally depict her as a white woman (the baby might even be light haired). It is unknown if she was [[EnforcedTrope deliberately]] [[NecessaryWeasel whitewashed]] by abolitionists to make her story better appeal to white audiences (the idea that random white northerners might be abducted by slave catchers and sold as "light skinned negroes" in the South [[ScareEmStraight proved very effective]] at the time) or if she was really that light skinned because she had barely any African ancestry (see Real Life).

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* Contemporary depictions of Eliza Harris (who inspired her namesake in ''Literature/UncleTomsCabin'') and her heroic escape from slavery with her grandson on her arms by leaping across the ice over the Ohio River universally depict her as a white woman (the baby might even be light haired). It is unknown if she was [[EnforcedTrope deliberately]] [[NecessaryWeasel whitewashed]] by abolitionists to make her story better appeal to white audiences (the idea that random white northerners might be abducted by slave catchers and sold as "light skinned negroes" in the South [[ScareEmStraight proved very effective]] at the time) or if she was really that light skinned because she had barely any African ancestry (see Real Life).ancestry.
20th Mar '16 7:49:09 PM ManOfSin
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* In ''VideoGame/HalfLife2'', if the player weren't shown Alyx Vance's father (who is an example of this trope himself), boards would probably be awash with debate around whether she was supposed to just have a tan - which is because she's half-black, half-Asian. As a result, she's left off many lists of notable badass video game women of color. And the only way we know she's supposed to be half-Asian inside the game is a picture of her with both of her parents from before the Black Mesa Incident.

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* In ''VideoGame/HalfLife2'', if the player weren't shown Alyx Vance's father (who is an example of this trope himself), boards would probably be awash with debate around whether she was supposed to just have a tan - or was multi-ethnic- which is because she's half-black, half-Asian. As a result, she's left off many lists of notable badass video game women of color. And the only way we know she's supposed to be half-Asian inside the game is a picture of her with both of her parents from before the Black Mesa Incident.
20th Mar '16 7:44:51 PM ManOfSin
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* In ''VideoGame/HalfLife2'', if the player weren't shown Alyx Vance's father (who is an example of this trope himself), boards would probably be awash with debate around whether she was supposed to be Hispanic or just have a tan - which is because she's half-black, half-Asian. As a result, she's left off many lists of notable badass video game women of color. And the only way we know she's supposed to be half-Asian inside the game is a picture of her with both of her parents from before the Black Mesa Incident.

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* In ''VideoGame/HalfLife2'', if the player weren't shown Alyx Vance's father (who is an example of this trope himself), boards would probably be awash with debate around whether she was supposed to be Hispanic or just have a tan - which is because she's half-black, half-Asian. As a result, she's left off many lists of notable badass video game women of color. And the only way we know she's supposed to be half-Asian inside the game is a picture of her with both of her parents from before the Black Mesa Incident.
15th Mar '16 10:06:51 AM Pichu-kun
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* Iris in the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime is noticeably lighter than her games official art. Skyla from the same arc in comparison is inverted; having a tan tone she lacks in the games.

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* Iris in the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime is noticeably lighter than her games official art. Skyla from the same arc in comparison is inverted; {{inverted|trope}}; having a tan tone she lacks in the games.



* The casting of Shana in the ''Film/JemAndTheHolograms'' LiveActionAdaptation came under fire for casting Aurora Perrineau, a biracial actress with straight hair. Shana is fairly dark skinned and has a tightly-coiled afro in the cartoon.

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* The casting of Shana in the ''Film/JemAndTheHolograms'' LiveActionAdaptation came under fire for casting Aurora Perrineau, a biracial actress with straight hair. Shana is fairly dark skinned and has a tightly-coiled afro in [[WesternAnimation/{{Jem}} the cartoon.cartoon]].



* The protagonist of ''The Skin I'm In'' has been bullied for yeaes by her equally black peers for being dark skinned.



* Alicia Keys was accused of benefiting from this once she received more Grammy wins over her much darker complexioned peer Music/IndiaArie at The 44th Grammy Awards, especially since India had 7 nominations and [[AwardSnub won none]].

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* Alicia Keys Music/AliciaKeys was accused of benefiting from this once she received more Grammy wins over her much darker complexioned peer Music/IndiaArie at The 44th Grammy Awards, especially since India had 7 nominations and [[AwardSnub won none]].



* The first black {{Franchise/Barbie}} Dolls had the right skin tone, but were processed from the same mold used to make white Barbies; thus they had African-American skin but Caucasian features. The {{Franchise/Barbie}} So In Style line attempts to avert this, with mixed results. The dolls do have green/blue eyes and straight hair, but there was an effort to include many different types of skintones and they have distinct African facial features.
* The Franchise/{{American Girl|sCollection}} dolls have a similar problem to Barbies, but with hair. While the black dolls arguably have black facial features, their hair is usually thicker than the white dolls but not as thick as most actual black dolls.
* In the Franchise/DisneyPrincess Merchandise, [[Disney/{{Aladdin}} Jasmine]], while not black, seems to have widely varying skintone. Sometimes she'll be the same tone as she was in the movie, but a lot of merchandise features her with much lighter skin. In at least one of the children's books, she was almost as light as the Caucasian princesses! A similar non-black example occurred with Disney/{{Mulan}} in the 2013 relaunch of the Disney Princess franchise, which included more "stylized", "fashionable" redesigns for the characters. In addition to her skin being lightened until she was literally whiter than Disney/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}}, her face was altered to have more of an Anglo look and her eyes were made blue. Due to backlash, the skin tone and eyes, at least, were corrected to something closer to the movie.

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* The first black {{Franchise/Barbie}} Dolls ''Franchise/{{Barbie}}'' dolls had the right skin tone, but were processed from the same mold used to make white Barbies; thus they had African-American skin but Caucasian features. The {{Franchise/Barbie}} ''Franchise/{{Barbie}}'' So In Style line attempts to avert this, with mixed results. The dolls do have green/blue eyes and straight hair, but there was an effort to include many different types of skintones and they have distinct African facial features.
* The Franchise/{{American Girl|sCollection}} ''Franchise/{{American Girl|sCollection}}'' dolls have a similar problem to Barbies, but with hair. While the black dolls arguably have black facial features, their hair is usually thicker than the white dolls but not as thick as most actual black dolls.
* In the Franchise/DisneyPrincess Merchandise, [[Disney/{{Aladdin}} Jasmine]], Jasmine from ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'', while not black, seems to have widely varying skintone. Sometimes she'll be the same tone as she was in the movie, but a lot of merchandise features her with much lighter skin. In at least one of the children's books, she was almost as light as the Caucasian princesses! A similar non-black example occurred with Disney/{{Mulan}} in the 2013 relaunch of the Disney Princess franchise, which included more "stylized", "fashionable" redesigns for the characters. In addition to her skin being lightened until she was literally whiter than Disney/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}}, her face was altered to have more of an Anglo look and her eyes were made blue. Due to backlash, the skin tone and eyes, at least, were corrected to something closer to the movie.



* Disney's ''WesternAnimation/SofiaTheFirst'' features the first Latina princess, [[http://gawker.com/5952893/disney-declares-its-newest-princess-is-latina-just-so-we-can-all-fight-about-whether-or-not-she-looks-latina?post=53646737 a very fair-skinned girl with reddish auburn hair.]] It is a given that Latinos come in a variety of shades, races and colors but a lot of people are taking issue that Disney declared her Latina just a short time before the show premiered. Mainly the fact that it seems "after the fact" and just declaring her Latina just to have a Latina princess, one of doesn't even debut in proper Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon movie, no less. Not to mention fair-skinned Latinos have more representation in the media.
** It seems Disney has {{retcon}}ned her as not being latina. They made such a big deal of another princess, who has [[LatinoIsBrown brown skin]] and black hair, being their "first latina princess".

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* Disney's ''WesternAnimation/SofiaTheFirst'' features the first Latina princess, [[http://gawker.com/5952893/disney-declares-its-newest-princess-is-latina-just-so-we-can-all-fight-about-whether-or-not-she-looks-latina?post=53646737 a very fair-skinned girl with reddish auburn hair.]] It is a given that Latinos come in a variety of shades, races and colors but a lot of people are taking issue that Disney declared her Latina just a short time before the show premiered. Mainly the fact that it seems "after the fact" and just declaring her Latina just to have a Latina princess, one of doesn't even debut in proper Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon movie, no less. Not to mention fair-skinned Latinos have more representation in the media.
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media. It since seems Disney has {{retcon}}ned her as not being latina. They made such a big deal of another princess, who has [[LatinoIsBrown brown skin]] and black hair, being their "first latina princess".


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* This common criticism of Orange Blossom in the current 2007 incarnation of ''WesternAnimation/StrawberryShortcake''. Due to her hair being straight and OnlySixFaces being in action, she comes off as AmbiguouslyBrown instead of the very unambiguously black she normally is.
9th Mar '16 5:45:20 PM delightfulCheshire
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*** That and [[ArtificialStupidity]]. To make it clear, Sheva will run into a zombie and then walk away. Ashley Graham [[ArtificialBrilliance ducked when you aimed at her, could bait enemies (especially with literal armor)]], and had an entire chapter based around strategy and stealth. Ashley is white.
9th Mar '16 5:37:24 PM delightfulCheshire
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*** Justified, since the majority of Japan will probably never see a black person [[IncrediblyLamePun in th]][[DudeNotFunny e flesh]].



** It seems Disney has {{retcon}}ned her as not being latina. They made such a big deal of another princess, who ha [[LatinoIsBrown brown skin]] and black hair, being their "first latina princess".

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** It seems Disney has {{retcon}}ned her as not being latina. They made such a big deal of another princess, who ha has [[LatinoIsBrown brown skin]] and black hair, being their "first latina princess".
9th Mar '16 7:57:20 AM fearlessnikki
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* The announcement of Alexandra Shipp as the teenaged Storm in ''Film/XMenApocalypse'' has been met with many fans decrying the casting of Shipp as not being "black enough."
** Creator/HalleBerry is also frequently called out with this for the previous films (Berry and Shipp both had African-American fathers and Caucasian mothers).

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* The announcement of Alexandra Shipp as the teenaged Storm in ''Film/XMenApocalypse'' has been met with many fans decrying the casting of Shipp as not being "black enough."
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" Creator/HalleBerry is also frequently called out with this for the previous films (Berry and Shipp both had African-American fathers and Caucasian mothers).mothers). It should be noted that Storm in the comics has been drawn with a mixture of Caucasian, African and Asian features - with WordOfGod saying it was to portray her as "a woman of the world". Storm's full background is unknown, but her mother was definitely African.
4th Mar '16 8:50:35 PM Eagal
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