History Main / ButNotTooBlack

16th Aug '17 12:19:05 PM MegaJ
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** Fortune from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'' is African-American, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne270nxf7rM and her in-game model]] is pretty brown-skinned (if not chocolate-toned, she's definitely not light skinned.) The official art for the character tells a different story, as [[http://media.photobucket.com/image/fortune%20metal%20gear/Nathaneal_2006/mgs2/chara_fortune.gif she is very fair-skinned]]. She and her father are both blond (with blond eyebrows) and with blue eyes. The comic adaptation adds to this, as the colour/lighting of the comic is essentially "white with very dark and bold colours as the shadows", which has the unfortunate effect of making her look white in a majority of pages. The only pages in which she looks like her game counterpart are her introductory page (in which the lighting is mostly red and brown) and a watercolour image of her a few pages later (that still manages to be paler than she is in-game).

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** Fortune from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'' is African-American, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne270nxf7rM and her in-game model]] is pretty brown-skinned (if not chocolate-toned, she's definitely not light skinned.) The brown-skinned, but the official art for the character tells a different story, as [[http://media.photobucket.com/image/fortune%20metal%20gear/Nathaneal_2006/mgs2/chara_fortune.gif she is very fair-skinned]]. She and her father are both blond (with blond eyebrows) and with blue eyes. The comic adaptation adds to this, as the colour/lighting of the comic is essentially "white with very dark and bold colours as the shadows", which has the unfortunate effect of making her look white in a majority of pages. The only pages in which she looks like her game counterpart are her introductory page (in which the lighting is mostly red and brown) and a watercolour image of her a few pages later (that still manages to be paler than she is in-game).
26th Jul '17 11:04:49 PM MegaJ
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** [[Characters/NewMutants Sunspot]], whose skin has been lightened over the years, along with a possible RaceLift. Sunspot is Brazilian, specifically of mixed-race Afro-Brazilian and White Brazilian descent and was drawn with dark skin with wavy hair. As the decades passed, Sunspot's skin has gotten lighter and lighter and now in his appearances in Comicbook/NewAvengers and Comicbook/USAvengers make him look like what [[LatinoIsBrown most Americans think Latino people look like]]. ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' cast Adan Canto (a Mexican actor of mixed Amerindian/White descent) as Sunspot, further complicating the issue.

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** [[Characters/NewMutants Sunspot]], whose Sunspot's]] skin has been lightened over the years, along with a possible RaceLift. Sunspot is Brazilian, specifically of mixed-race Afro-Brazilian and White Brazilian descent and was drawn with dark skin with wavy hair.hair and black features. As the decades passed, Sunspot's skin has gotten lighter and lighter and now in his appearances in Comicbook/NewAvengers and Comicbook/USAvengers make him look like what [[LatinoIsBrown most Americans think Latino people look like]]. ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' cast has Adan Canto (a Mexican actor of mixed Amerindian/White descent) as Sunspot, further complicating the issue.issue. Fox finally cast a Brazilian actor, Henry Zaga, as Sunspot for ''Film/TheNewMutants'' but he is very light-skinned.
19th Jul '17 4:05:49 PM WillKeaton
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** It had a [[ContemptibleCover cover]] featuring an [[http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/07/23/aint-that-a-shame/ obviously white girl, although the protagonist is black]]. Especially given the story, since the chosen cover called into question one of the few true things, according to the author, that the protagonist shared about herself.

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** It had a [[ContemptibleCover cover]] featuring an [[http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/07/23/aint-that-a-shame/ obviously white girl, although the protagonist is black]]. black.]] Especially given the story, since the chosen cover called into question one of the few true things, according to the author, that the protagonist shared about herself.
19th Jul '17 4:05:22 PM WillKeaton
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** Corkus had defiant tan in the Manga and 97 [[https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTVcFpGi2DIuajR1G2-631-e_I7khKlSPdBke2LAVsWmyQrnbO0gLCOzCWXg Anime]] but in the Golden Age Movies [[http://www.animemvc.com/Content/animes/berserk_golden_age_arc_i_-_the_egg_of_the_king/corkus_berserk_golden_age_arc_i_-_the_egg_of_the_king.jpg he's whiter than Casca]].

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** Corkus had defiant tan in the Manga and 97 [[https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTVcFpGi2DIuajR1G2-631-e_I7khKlSPdBke2LAVsWmyQrnbO0gLCOzCWXg Anime]] but in the Golden Age Movies [[http://www.animemvc.com/Content/animes/berserk_golden_age_arc_i_-_the_egg_of_the_king/corkus_berserk_golden_age_arc_i_-_the_egg_of_the_king.jpg he's whiter than Casca]]. Casca.]]
19th Jul '17 4:04:40 PM WillKeaton
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In a word, this phenomenon has been called "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorism colorism]]". Colourism can also come down to a latent class bias: worldwide, lighter skin (relative to one's own people) has typically been associated with wealth and lounging around indoors, and darker with poverty and working in the fields[[note]] Yes, including societies that didn't have protectorates established over them by and/or had little contact with The European Powers, such as The Empire Of The Qing. [[/note]]. Not until the [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII post-war]] period did the trends start to reverse; the only country not devastated by The War, the USA, led a new trend which saw those with wealth being able to afford extended vacations or holidays, [[ButNotTooWhite and the sun-induced tans that came with them]], while the reduced number of people employed in agriculture meant that poor people were more likely to spend their workdays indoors in factories (or later call centres) instead of out in the fields.

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In a word, this phenomenon has been called "[[http://en.[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorism colorism]]". "colorism."]] Colourism can also come down to a latent class bias: worldwide, lighter skin (relative to one's own people) has typically been associated with wealth and lounging around indoors, and darker with poverty and working in the fields[[note]] Yes, fields.[[note]]Yes, including societies that didn't have protectorates established over them by and/or had little contact with The European Powers, such as The Empire Of The Qing. [[/note]]. Qing.[[/note]] Not until the [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII post-war]] period did the trends start to reverse; the only country not devastated by The War, the USA, led a new trend which saw those with wealth being able to afford extended vacations or holidays, [[ButNotTooWhite and the sun-induced tans that came with them]], while the reduced number of people employed in agriculture meant that poor people were more likely to spend their workdays indoors in factories (or later call centres) instead of out in the fields.
17th Jul '17 5:10:44 PM merotoker
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* [[http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/03/syfys-eureka-starts-production-scores-bsg-star/ This]] promotional picture for [[Crearor/SciFiChannel Syfy]] series ''{{Series/Eureka}}'' shows Alison Blake (played by the half-black Salli Richardson) as being much lighter skinned than she is in real life.

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* [[http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/03/syfys-eureka-starts-production-scores-bsg-star/ This]] promotional picture for [[Crearor/SciFiChannel Syfy]] Creator/SyFy series ''{{Series/Eureka}}'' shows Alison Blake (played by the half-black Salli Richardson) as being much lighter skinned than she is in real life.



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* Though ''Comicbook/XMen'''s Comicbook/{{Storm}} is quite dark, she has white hair and blue eyes (when they're not completely whited out when she uses her powers), said to be marks of her bloodline, and for years was drawn with semi-European features. This comes from an early idea to give her features from different races - dark skin, light hair and Asian-featured eyes - to make her resemble Gaia. Later works, particularly during the lead-up to her marriage to Comicbook/BlackPanther, actually drew mild fan criticism for the change of her facial structure.
* X-Men colorists must be fond of this trope, because [[Characters/GenerationX M's]] skin tone is in a constant state of flux. When she first appeared in ''Comicbook/GenerationX'' she had caramel skin. Towards the end of the book it was chocolate. When she was floating between titles it went back to caramel. But with her current stint in ''Comicbook/XFactor'', she's not even ambiguous anymore; she could be mistaken for white by readers who don't know better. It became especially baffling when other black characters started appearing in the book with more identifiable features. Her father is French, but of African descent and is rather dark-skinned. She should be caramel-toned at the very least. Later in the series' run, her skin tone has gone back more to what it should be.
* ''Another'' X-Men example is Sunspot, whose skin has been lightened over the years, along with a possible RaceLift. Sunspot is Brazilian, specifically of mixed-race Afro-Brazilian and White Brazilian descent and was drawn with dark skin with wavy hair. As the decades passed, Sunspot's skin has gotten lighter and lighter and now in his appearances in Comicbook/NewAvengers and Comicbook/USAvengers make him look like what [[LatinoIsBrown most Americans think Latino people look like]]. Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast casted Adan Canto (a Mexican actor of mixed Amerindian/White descent) as Sunspot, further complicating the issue.

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Though ''Comicbook/XMen'''s Comicbook/{{Storm}} is quite dark, she has white hair and blue eyes (when they're not completely whited out when she uses her powers), said to be marks of her bloodline, and for years was drawn with semi-European features. This comes from an early idea to give her features from different races - dark skin, light hair and Asian-featured eyes - to make her resemble Gaia. Later works, particularly during the lead-up to her marriage to Comicbook/BlackPanther, actually drew mild fan criticism for the change of her facial structure.
* ** X-Men colorists must be fond of this trope, because [[Characters/GenerationX M's]] skin tone is in a constant state of flux. When she first appeared in ''Comicbook/GenerationX'' she had caramel skin. Towards the end of the book it was chocolate. When she was floating between titles it went back to caramel. But with her current stint in ''Comicbook/XFactor'', she's not even ambiguous anymore; she could be mistaken for white by readers who don't know better. It became especially baffling when other black characters started appearing in the book with more identifiable features. Her father is French, but of African descent and is rather dark-skinned. She should be caramel-toned at the very least. Later in the series' run, her skin tone has gone back more to what it should be.
* ''Another'' X-Men example is Sunspot, ** [[Characters/NewMutants Sunspot]], whose skin has been lightened over the years, along with a possible RaceLift. Sunspot is Brazilian, specifically of mixed-race Afro-Brazilian and White Brazilian descent and was drawn with dark skin with wavy hair. As the decades passed, Sunspot's skin has gotten lighter and lighter and now in his appearances in Comicbook/NewAvengers and Comicbook/USAvengers make him look like what [[LatinoIsBrown most Americans think Latino people look like]]. Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast casted ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' cast Adan Canto (a Mexican actor of mixed Amerindian/White descent) as Sunspot, further complicating the issue.



* Similarly, the ''ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist'' series has occasional "lapses" where Misty Knight is drawn with a shag haircut and European features.
* Averted with Comicbook/NickFury Jr/Marcus Johnson, which lead to ''arguments about him being too black'' on the ''Bleeding Cool'' forum. As noted in the forum, it's perfectly possible to have very dark skin and 'black features' even when one of your parents is white; it's not common, but it's not impossible. Some users thought it wasn't and argued that Marcus Johnson couldn't really be Fury's son because he's too black.
* There was a bit of a mini-controversy for the second volume of Comicbook/MightyAvengers. Spectrum (aka Monica Rambeau aka ComicBook/CaptainMarVell aka [[IHaveManyNames Photon aka Pulsar]]) debuts a new, short hairstyle with her hair straightened, whereas in previous appearances Monica always wore her hair naturally with her dreadlocked look being the most remembered one. This was later addressed in an issue where Monica was shown to be horrified when a little black girl said she wanted to straighten her hair to look like Monica's, and she's since gone back to her dreadlocked look.

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* Similarly, the ''ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist'' series has occasional "lapses" where Misty Knight ComicBook/MistyKnight is drawn with a shag haircut and European features.
* Averted with Comicbook/NickFury Jr/Marcus Johnson, which lead led to ''arguments about him being too black'' on the ''Bleeding Cool'' forum. As noted in the forum, it's perfectly possible to have very dark skin and 'black features' even when one of your parents is white; it's not common, but it's not impossible. Some users thought it wasn't and argued that Marcus Johnson couldn't really be Fury's son because he's too black.
* There was a bit of a mini-controversy for the second volume of Comicbook/MightyAvengers. ComicBook/MightyAvengers. Spectrum (aka Monica Rambeau ComicBook/MonicaRambeau aka ComicBook/CaptainMarVell aka [[IHaveManyNames Photon aka Pulsar]]) debuts a new, short hairstyle with her hair straightened, whereas in previous appearances Monica always wore her hair naturally with her dreadlocked look being the most remembered one. This was later addressed in an issue where Monica was shown to be horrified when a little black girl said she wanted to straighten her hair to look like Monica's, and she's since gone back to her dreadlocked look.



* In the tie-in comics for the ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' cartoon this occured to the half-Vietnamese and half-white Artemis. Her skin is darker than Wally's in the cartoon but in the comics she is presented as lighter skinned than in the source. She is also blue eyed when WordOfGod is her eyes aren't supposed to be blue, and in the cartoons they look black. She more looks like her DC Comics design (who is completely white) rather than the ''Young Justice'' one.

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* In the tie-in comics for the ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' cartoon this occured occurred to the half-Vietnamese and half-white Artemis. Her skin is darker than Wally's in the cartoon but in the comics she is presented as lighter skinned than in the source. She is also blue eyed when WordOfGod is her eyes aren't supposed to be blue, and in the cartoons they look black. She more looks like her DC Comics design (who is completely white) rather than the ''Young Justice'' one.



* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in one of the special DVD features for ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles''. Frozone and Mr. Incredible watch a [[StylisticSuck really, really awful]] [[ShowWithinAShow licensed cartoon]]. Frozone is offended that the version of him in cartoon was a soft brown -- combined with the faded print, he comes out as lightly tanned at best -- not to mention [[TotallyRadical talking like a Beatnik]]. The canonical movie had him looking very similar to his voice actor, Creator/SamuelLJackson.

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* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in one of the special DVD features for ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles''. Frozone and Mr. Incredible watch a [[StylisticSuck really, really awful]] [[ShowWithinAShow licensed cartoon]]. Frozone is offended that the version of him in cartoon was a soft brown -- combined with the faded print, he comes out as lightly tanned at best -- not to mention [[TotallyRadical talking like a Beatnik]]. The canonical movie had him looking very similar to his voice actor, Creator/SamuelLJackson.



* Averted with Creator/SidneyPoitier, Creator/EddieMurphy, Wesley Snipes and Don Cheadle. Not averted, however, with most of the women playing Eddie Murphy's love interests, as they tend to be light-skinned African Americans.

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* Averted with Creator/SidneyPoitier, Creator/EddieMurphy, Wesley Snipes Creator/WesleySnipes and Don Cheadle.Creator/DonCheadle. Not averted, however, with most of the women playing Eddie Murphy's love interests, as they tend to be light-skinned African Americans.



* Zoe Kravitz [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/zoe-kravitz-dark-knight-rises-809141 claims]] that she was denied an audition for ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' - with the reasoning being "we're not going urban". Fans assume she was going after the small role of Selina's friend Jen - who ended up played by the very white Juno Temple.

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* Zoe Kravitz Creator/ZoeKravitz [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/zoe-kravitz-dark-knight-rises-809141 claims]] that she was denied an audition for ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' - with the reasoning being "we're not going urban". Fans assume she was going after the small role of Selina's friend Jen - who ended up played by the very white Juno Temple.



* In ''Literature/UncleTomsCabin'', the main character Eliza is one quarter black, with skin just light enough for her to pass as white. She takes advantage of this early on in her escape. Her husband is mulatto, and with a little makeup was able to pass as Hispanic while on the run. The 1927 film adaptation took this to the extreme by casting white actors for both parts.

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* In ''Literature/UncleTomsCabin'', the main character Eliza is one quarter black, with skin just light enough for her to pass as white. She takes advantage of this early on in her escape. Her husband is mulatto, and with a little makeup was able to pass as Hispanic while on the run. The 1927 [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptation adaptation]] took this to the extreme by casting white actors for both parts.



* In the original illustrations of ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'', Captain Nemo doesn't look remotely Indian. This is for two reasons: his nationality wasn't revealed until the sequel, and he was originally planned to be a Polish noble fighting against the oppressive Russians. France being allied with Russia at the time, Verne's editor convinced him to use a more traditional (to the French) AcceptableTarget, and Nemo became an Indian fighting the British.

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* In the original illustrations of ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'', Captain Nemo doesn't look remotely Indian. This is for two reasons: his nationality wasn't revealed until the sequel, and he was originally planned to be a Polish noble fighting against the oppressive Russians. France being allied with Russia at the time, Verne's editor convinced him to use a more traditional (to the French) AcceptableTarget, {{Acceptable Target|s}}, and Nemo became an Indian fighting the British.



* On an episode of Oprah during Tiger Woods' meteoric initial rise to national attention, there was considerable controversy after Tiger said that when he was a child, knowing he was of mixed heritage--having not only white and black, but Asian and Native American (American Indian) ancestry--led him to cobbling together a word for himself, "Cablinasian". Some black celebrities took offense to this, with one even citing the "one-drop" rule (that being, if you have one drop of black blood, you're black). It was noted on a follow-up episode discussing the issue and how it related to race in America that ''this was a rule invented by slavers to expand their potential "product base"''. Inverted in the Gatorade Focus commercials, in which the animators seem to have assiduously eradicated any trace of non-black features on animated!Tiger.

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* On an episode of Oprah ''Series/TheOprahWinfreyShow'' during Tiger Woods' meteoric initial rise to national attention, there was considerable controversy after Tiger said that when he was a child, knowing he was of mixed heritage--having not only white and black, but Asian and Native American (American Indian) ancestry--led him to cobbling together a word for himself, "Cablinasian". Some black celebrities took offense to this, with one even citing the "one-drop" rule (that being, if you have one drop of black blood, you're black). It was noted on a follow-up episode discussing the issue and how it related to race in America that ''this was a rule invented by slavers to expand their potential "product base"''. Inverted in the Gatorade Focus commercials, in which the animators seem to have assiduously eradicated any trace of non-black features on animated!Tiger.



** The 60s series was also very daring in refusing to sweep under the rug the fact that their non "average white American" characters were... not average white Americans. (Remember, they faced network pressure to have no non-white characters.) They could have easily named Uhura "Sue Jones" or something, but they all tend to have names that reflect their ethnicities. In addition to Uhura and Sulu, there was a black doctor named Dr. M'Benga who was a {{Recurrer}}. Chekov's white, yeah, but... in the 60s, when Russians were still the "bad guys," we have as a main cast member a guy named "Pavel Chekov" who always talks about how Russia did everything first. He's never treated as being any less than the other crew members.

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** The 60s series was also very daring in refusing to sweep under the rug the fact that their non "average white American" characters were... not average white Americans. (Remember, they faced network pressure to have no non-white characters.) They could have easily named Uhura "Sue Jones" or something, but they all tend to have names that reflect their ethnicities. In addition to Uhura and Sulu, there was a black doctor named Dr. M'Benga who was a {{Recurrer}}.RecurringCharacter. Chekov's white, yeah, but... in the 60s, when Russians were still the "bad guys," we have as a main cast member a guy named "Pavel Chekov" who always talks about how Russia did everything first. He's never treated as being any less than the other crew members.



* On ''Series/ChappellesShow'' Charlie Murphy relates his friend Rick James' nickname for him: "Because of my complexion he used to call me 'Darkness'. He calls me and my brother Eddie 'Darkness'. Called us the "Darkness Brothers". See, this is long before WesleySnipes. Back then we as the blackest niggas on the planet according to Rick James!"

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* On ''Series/ChappellesShow'' Charlie Murphy relates his friend Rick James' nickname for him: "Because of my complexion he used to call me 'Darkness'. He calls me and my brother Eddie 'Darkness'. Called us the "Darkness Brothers". See, this is long before WesleySnipes.Wesley Snipes. Back then we as the blackest niggas on the planet according to Rick James!"



* Series/LawAndOrderUK inverts this when a dark-skinned suspect taunts the light-skinned DS Joe Hawkins, calling him a "mongrel". Joe's [[BerserkButton reaction]] indicates that this is a sore point for him and that this probably isn't the first time someone has made comments like this to him--his explanation to Ronnie makes it clear that colorism goes both ways.

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* Series/LawAndOrderUK ''Series/LawAndOrderUK'' inverts this when a dark-skinned suspect taunts the light-skinned DS Joe Hawkins, calling him a "mongrel". Joe's [[BerserkButton reaction]] indicates that this is a sore point for him and that this probably isn't the first time someone has made comments like this to him--his explanation to Ronnie makes it clear that colorism goes both ways.



* ''Series/LukeCage2016'' received some criticism over the casting of Simone Missick to play Misty Knight, given that she is lighter skinned than some of her male co-stars. Her skin is also slightly lighter than how Misty's is drawn in the comics. But since Simone Missick has been named by critics as the show's "standout performance", AbilityOverAppearance may have come into play.
* ''{{Series/Supergirl 2015}}'' drew some criticism in its first season for featuring no women of color in the main cast, with only Tawny Cypress in a couple of episodes as Senator Miranda Crane, and Wrestling/EveTorres as Maxima. Season 2 introduced two - Maggie Sawyer (also [[TwoferTokenMinority a lesbian]]) and M'gann aka Miss Martian. Both however are still lighter skinned than Mehcad Brooks (Jimmy Olsen) and David Harewood (Hank Henshaw).

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* ''Series/LukeCage2016'' received some criticism over the casting of Simone Missick Creator/SimoneMissick to play Misty Knight, given that she is lighter skinned than some of her male co-stars. Her skin is also slightly lighter than how Misty's is drawn in the comics. But since Simone Missick has been named by critics as the show's "standout performance", AbilityOverAppearance may have come into play.
* ''{{Series/Supergirl 2015}}'' drew some criticism in its first season for featuring no women of color in the main cast, with only Tawny Cypress in a couple of episodes as Senator Miranda Crane, and Wrestling/EveTorres as Maxima. Season 2 introduced two - Maggie Sawyer (also [[TwoferTokenMinority a lesbian]]) and M'gann aka Miss Martian. Both however are still lighter skinned than Mehcad Brooks Creator/MehcadBrooks (Jimmy Olsen) and David Harewood Creator/DavidHarewood (Hank Henshaw).



* Elle Magazine has been accused of [[http://colorlines.com/archives/2010/09/gabourey_sidibe_on_the_cover_of_elle.html lightening the skin]] of actress [[{{Precious}} Gabourey Sidibe]].

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* Elle Magazine has been accused of [[http://colorlines.com/archives/2010/09/gabourey_sidibe_on_the_cover_of_elle.html lightening the skin]] of actress [[{{Precious}} Gabourey Sidibe]].Creator/GaboureySidibe.



** This is highlighted in the music video for "Beautiful Liar" where Beyonce duets with Shakira. Throughout the duration of the video, it is often difficult to identify which singer is which. Seriously. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrOe2h9RtWI Check out the video on youtube here]], you might start to doubt your powers of facial recognition.
** Beyonce [[http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/fashion/beyonce-in-hot-water-over-latest-photo-shoot-blog-22-yahoo-lifestyles.html came under fire]] for an African-inspired photo shoot in which she wears dark makeup.

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** This is highlighted in the music video for "Beautiful Liar" where Beyonce duets with Shakira. Throughout the duration of the video, it is often difficult to identify which singer is which. Seriously. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrOe2h9RtWI Check out the video on youtube YouTube here]], you might start to doubt your powers of facial recognition.
** Beyonce [[http://uk.[[http://web.archive.org/web/20110227092859/http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/fashion/beyonce-in-hot-water-over-latest-photo-shoot-blog-22-yahoo-lifestyles.html came under fire]] for an African-inspired photo shoot in which she wears dark makeup.



* During the 70s and 80s, light-skinned black male artist were the most popular and presented to the public media in America, mainly because they had crossover appeal and were popular with both black and white females. Groups like Debarge and singers like Al-Be-Sure and LionelRichie were the face of R&B music. Rappers like Music/LLCoolJ and Creator/WillSmith were the face of rap music. This changed during the 90s after gangster rap became popular for showing mostly dark-skinned black men in a strong, masculine, light regardless of the many negative factors of the music itself. It would help put dark-skinned black men on an equal playing field with light-skinned black men in the rap industry.

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* During the 70s and 80s, light-skinned black male artist were the most popular and presented to the public media in America, mainly because they had crossover appeal and were popular with both black and white females. Groups like Debarge and singers like Al-Be-Sure and LionelRichie Music/LionelRichie were the face of R&B music. Rappers like Music/LLCoolJ and Creator/WillSmith were the face of rap music. This changed during the 90s after gangster rap became popular for showing mostly dark-skinned black men in a strong, masculine, light regardless of the many negative factors of the music itself. It would help put dark-skinned black men on an equal playing field with light-skinned black men in the rap industry.



* WWE has averted this with regards to its female performers. For a stretch, African-American females made up the majority of the roster as it include Wrestling/AliciaFox, [[Wrestling/KiaStevens Kharma]], [[Wrestling/{{Cameron}} Cameron Lynn]], [[Wrestling/{{Naomi}} Naomi Knight]] and the mixed race [[Wrestling/{{Layla}} Layla El]]. Alicia Fox has also been paired with many white superstars though in 2012 they did start putting her with black superstars like Wrestling/BookerT and JTG. Throughout much of the 2000s, however, WWE played the trope straight. The latte-colored Layla was the only Diva of African descent for quite a while (except for Booker T's wife Sharmell, and she was not a wrestler for most of her career). At the same time, interestingly, WWE offered up blonde white Divas - Wrestling/StacyKeibler, Wrestling/KellyKelly, [[Wrestling/{{Maryse}} Maryse Ouellet]] - [[DarkSkinnedBlond who were relatively dark-skinned]]. With the SpicyLatina Divas (most of them relatively light-skinned or even of mixed blood) added to the mix, one gets the sense that WWE in the past decade was aiming for an AmbiguouslyBrown collective portrait of its women's division.

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* WWE has averted this with regards to its female performers. For a stretch, African-American females made up the majority of the roster as it include included Wrestling/AliciaFox, [[Wrestling/KiaStevens Kharma]], [[Wrestling/{{Cameron}} Cameron Lynn]], [[Wrestling/{{Naomi}} Naomi Knight]] and the mixed race [[Wrestling/{{Layla}} Layla El]]. Alicia Fox has also been paired with many white superstars though in 2012 they did start putting her with black superstars like Wrestling/BookerT and JTG. Throughout much of the 2000s, however, WWE played the trope straight. The latte-colored Layla was the only Diva of African descent for quite a while (except for Booker T's wife Sharmell, and she was not a wrestler for most of her career). At the same time, interestingly, WWE offered up blonde white Divas - Wrestling/StacyKeibler, Wrestling/KellyKelly, [[Wrestling/{{Maryse}} Maryse Ouellet]] - [[DarkSkinnedBlond who were relatively dark-skinned]]. With the SpicyLatina Divas (most of them relatively light-skinned or even of mixed blood) added to the mix, one gets the sense that WWE in the past decade was aiming for an AmbiguouslyBrown collective portrait of its women's division.







* Anyone who has ever taken a drawing class or used a 'how to draw' book that focused on drawing faces has probably run across this, or at least something which will LEAD to this, and will probably have people parrot it at them on artistic message boards and the like. There are certain well established rules to how to draw faces, specifically how to [[http://www.drawing-factory.com/face-drawing.html establish the proportions of features in relation to each other]]. These rules are based much on caucasian people, but they are presented as universal. The one most relevant to black people is the nose width 'rule' which states that a nose is never, ever, wider than the width of the space between the eyes (which are in turn one eye width apart) When you get into how to actually draw the nose, again, you will get detailed instructions on how to draw [[http://www.drawing-factory.com/nose-drawing.html caucasian noses]], with no guidance on any other ethnicity. This simply isn't applicable to many black people, but for some artists is is VERY hard to break out of this mindset, so the result is a lot of art of supposed black people with white features. There are exceptions, but it is very rare, especially when dealing with actual books rather than amateur made tutorials on the internet which, ironically, are often far better than the professional ones.

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* Anyone who has ever taken a drawing class or used a 'how to draw' book that focused on drawing faces has probably run across this, or at least something which will LEAD to this, and will probably have people parrot it at them on artistic message boards and the like. There are certain well established rules to how to draw faces, specifically how to [[http://www.drawing-factory.com/face-drawing.html establish the proportions of features in relation to each other]]. These rules are based much on caucasian Caucasian people, but they are presented as universal. The one most relevant to black people is the nose width 'rule' which states that a nose is never, ever, wider than the width of the space between the eyes (which are in turn one eye width apart) When you get into how to actually draw the nose, again, you will get detailed instructions on how to draw [[http://www.drawing-factory.com/nose-drawing.html caucasian Caucasian noses]], with no guidance on any other ethnicity. This simply isn't applicable to many black people, but for some artists is is VERY hard to break out of this mindset, so the result is a lot of art of supposed black people with white features. There are exceptions, but it is very rare, especially when dealing with actual books rather than amateur made tutorials on the internet which, ironically, are often far better than the professional ones.



* Averted in a Harris Interactive Poll that in 2001 named Martin Luther King and Colin Powell as two of the top three choices of hero/role model for Americans (the other one was Jesus). And Jesus was probably as dark as either of those two gentlemen. If you want to talk about famous people who are "lightened" by renaissance painters, you can start with him.

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* Averted in a Harris Interactive Poll that in 2001 named Martin Luther King and Colin Powell as two of the top three choices of hero/role model for Americans (the other one was Jesus).UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}). And Jesus was probably as dark as either of those two gentlemen. If you want to talk about famous people who are "lightened" by renaissance painters, you can start with him.
9th Jul '17 5:50:44 AM Adept
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* ''Series/KCUndercover'' star, model, and singer ZendayaColeman has faced this issue a number of times with her being AmbiguouslyBrown and able to crossover. But she is unapologetic about embracing her black side and often speaks out about black women being stereotyped in the entertainment industry.

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* ''Series/KCUndercover'' star, model, and singer ZendayaColeman Creator/ZendayaColeman has faced this issue a number of times with her being AmbiguouslyBrown and able to crossover. But she is unapologetic about embracing her black side and often speaks out about black women being stereotyped in the entertainment industry.
4th Jul '17 8:20:55 PM Fireblood
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* ''Film/SoulFood''. Maxine accuses her son Ahmad of this when she notices that out of the two girls who have come to visit him, he completely ignores the dark-skinned girl in favor of the light-skinned one, even though he has more in common with the darker girl.



* ''Series/LukeCage2016'' received some criticism over the casting of Simone Missick to play Misty Knight - given that she is lighter skinned than some of her male co-stars. Her skin is also slightly lighter than how Misty's is drawn in the comics. But since Simone Missick has been named by critics as the show's "standout performance", AbilityOverAppearance may have come into play.
* ''{{Series/Supergirl 2015}}'' drew some criticism in its first season for featuring no women of colour in the main cast - with only Tawny Cypress in a couple of episodes as Senator Miranda Crane, and Wrestling/EveTorres as Maxima. Season 2 introduced two - Maggie Sawyer (also [[TwoferTokenMinority a lesbian]]) and M'gann aka Miss Martian. Both however are still lighter skinned than Mehcad Brooks (Jimmy Olsen) and David Harewood (Hank Henshaw).
* ''Film/SoulFood''. Maxine accuses her son Ahmad of this when she notices that out of the two girls who have come to visit him, he completely ignores the dark-skinned girl in favor of the light-skinned one, even though he has more in common with the darker girl.

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* ''Series/LukeCage2016'' received some criticism over the casting of Simone Missick to play Misty Knight - Knight, given that she is lighter skinned than some of her male co-stars. Her skin is also slightly lighter than how Misty's is drawn in the comics. But since Simone Missick has been named by critics as the show's "standout performance", AbilityOverAppearance may have come into play.
* ''{{Series/Supergirl 2015}}'' drew some criticism in its first season for featuring no women of colour color in the main cast - cast, with only Tawny Cypress in a couple of episodes as Senator Miranda Crane, and Wrestling/EveTorres as Maxima. Season 2 introduced two - Maggie Sawyer (also [[TwoferTokenMinority a lesbian]]) and M'gann aka Miss Martian. Both however are still lighter skinned than Mehcad Brooks (Jimmy Olsen) and David Harewood (Hank Henshaw). \n* ''Film/SoulFood''. Maxine accuses her son Ahmad of this when she notices that out of the two girls who have come to visit him, he completely ignores the dark-skinned girl in favor of the light-skinned one, even though he has more in common with the darker girl.


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* ''Series/DearWhitePeople'': {{Invoked}} by the narrator (Creator/GiancarloEsposito), who states that he was selected for the role due to his being ethnic enough while still being nonthreatening. Coco also complains of being thought poorly about by many black guys due to having dark skin, and claims Sam has "light skinned privilege" because she's mixed race. Sam retorts that no one calls Colo "half breed" or "Zebra".
25th Jun '17 2:46:13 AM 3rdStringPG
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* Greek Divas Wrestling/TrishStratus and Wrestling/MariaKanellis notably downplayed their roots while in WWE. Trish's real name is Stratigeas and she's naturally brunette - but her modelling days saw her going for the more neutral name Stratus, bleaching her hair blonde and adopting a bronze tan. Maria too had blonde hair early in her career and later became redhead. She never used her last name while in WWE.

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* Greek Divas Wrestling/TrishStratus and Wrestling/MariaKanellis notably downplayed their roots while in WWE. Trish's real name is Stratigeas and she's naturally brunette - but her modelling days saw her going for the more neutral name Stratus, bleaching her hair blonde and adopting a bronze tan. Maria too had blonde hair early in her career and later became redhead. She never used her last name while during her first WWE run, but is now using it (with real-life husband Mike Bennett taking his wife's surname in WWE.storyline) as of her 2017 return.
21st Jun '17 6:52:37 AM EarsplittingLepidopteran
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* ''Anime/DeltoraQuest'' Jasmine is described in the having sunbrown skin in the books and the anime surprisingly matches it especially [[https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUhnyGfd5WzrpFq4p91wbwt8XLicyBUOsehgA7CT_IKM454XWZlA compared]] to the other characters). The only arguable letdown is her hair which was not [[AdaptationDyeJob green]] in the books.
** Doom the RebelLeader is described as tan skinned in the books and he's even [[https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMF5U7G86aGCaq38-OQHrD2fKcXNDOP_kzLcfgDaiX1RlJvIJvzbQshiRT darker]] in the anime, easily more brown the every other character. Doom also has green hair [[StrongFamilyResemblance like]] Jasmine [[spoiler: two of the three obvious visual clues that Doom and Jasmine are actually related]].

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* ''Anime/DeltoraQuest'' Jasmine is described in the having sunbrown skin in the books and the anime surprisingly matches it especially [[https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUhnyGfd5WzrpFq4p91wbwt8XLicyBUOsehgA7CT_IKM454XWZlA compared]] to the other characters). The only arguable letdown is her hair which was not [[AdaptationDyeJob green]] in the books.
** Doom the RebelLeader is described as tan skinned in the books and he's even [[https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMF5U7G86aGCaq38-OQHrD2fKcXNDOP_kzLcfgDaiX1RlJvIJvzbQshiRT darker]] in the anime, easily more brown the every other character. Doom also has green hair [[StrongFamilyResemblance like]] Jasmine [[spoiler: two of the three obvious visual clues that Doom and Jasmine are actually related]].



* EvilChancellor Agrippa from ''Anime/TurnAGundam''. In contrast to the typical AmbiguouslyBrown anime character look, he has fairly prominent African features, but passes the paper bag test with flying [[{{Pun}} colours]]. This is probably to make him a visual contrast to his opposite number from the Earth faction, the similarly scheming Guin Rhineford, who looks like a classic PhenotypeStereotype [[DarkSkinnedBlond who's been trying to give himself melanoma at the tanning salon]].
* In ''Anime/DragonBallThePathToPower'' Goku and Yamcha are much more tan than the pale Bulma which makes total sense since they've both been living in a mountain/desert while Bulma's [[SpoiledSweet never]] been out of the city before then.

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* EvilChancellor Agrippa from ''Anime/TurnAGundam''. In ''Anime/TurnAGundam'' in contrast to the typical AmbiguouslyBrown anime character look, he has fairly prominent African features, but passes the paper bag test with flying [[{{Pun}} colours]]. This is probably to make him a visual contrast to his opposite number from the Earth faction, the similarly scheming Guin Rhineford, who looks like a classic PhenotypeStereotype [[DarkSkinnedBlond who's been trying to give himself melanoma at the tanning salon]].
* In ''Anime/DragonBallThePathToPower'' Goku and Yamcha are much more tan than the pale Bulma which makes total sense since they've both been living in a mountain/desert while Bulma's [[SpoiledSweet never]] been out of the city before then.
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