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30th Aug '17 12:31:57 PM Njein
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* Examples from ''Film/JamesBond'', the {{Trope Namer|s}} series, in chronological order:

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* Examples from ''Film/JamesBond'', The ''Film/JamesBond'' is the {{Trope Namer|s}} series, of this and a recurring FatalFlaw for many Bond villains, as they have a tendency to [[EvilGloating gloat]] about their {{Evil Plan}}s, but by then, 007 has already cooked up a plan B to escape and defeat the baddies. Examples in chronological order:
20th Aug '17 3:49:22 AM SuperSonicHeroes
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* ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'': Robin survives Poison Ivy's kiss and reveals to her he was wearing rubber lips. Robin is still sitting right next to Ivy as he says this with their faces still only a few inches apart, but instead of grabbing Robin and giving him another more forceful and less romantic kiss to kill him for sure she just glares at him for tricking her and shoves him off her throne and into the pond to drown him instead. Then instead of staying to make sure Robin drowns so her plans remain a secret she attempts to leave, just saying a mocking "see ya!" to Robin. It's like she was treating the whole thing like she was breaking up with Robin instead of trying to kill him.
16th Aug '17 9:14:42 PM Raikoh
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*** Memorably, Eggman is full of this in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure''. Both the Chaos 6 and Egg Viper fights are only able to be beaten by Sonic ''because'' of Eggman's sheer arrogance; the former because of miniature freezing robots he keeps tossing out which [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Sonic uses to turn Chaos into ice to hurt it,]] and the latter because [[VillainBall he keeps opening his damn cockpit and daring Sonic to come at him.]] If Eggman didn't feel so overconfident to try to personally spite Sonic in either battle, they would've both been a HopelessBossFight.
** The entire plot of ''VideoGame/SonicLabyrinth'' is that Eggman genuinely snuck into Sonic's house while he was sleeping, and.. swaps his normal with speed-down shoes that would cripple Sonic's trademark speed; the only way to restore it would be to get the Chaos Emeralds from the doctor's titular labyrinth. Among all the other problems with this plan, [[DidntThinkThisThrough it doesn't stop Sonic from Spin Dashing and circumventing the shoes altogether.]]

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*** Memorably, ** A glaring case would be the beginning of ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed''. Eggman is full of this in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure''. Both the Chaos 6 and Egg Viper fights are only able to be beaten by lures Sonic ''because'' of (in his SuperMode) into a trap, and uses the chaos energy to split the Earth apart in his efforts to unleash [[EldritchAbomination Dark Gaia.]] With Sonic now in [[BalefulPolymorph his werehog form]] and weakened at his feet, Eggman's sheer arrogance; the former because of miniature freezing robots he keeps tossing out which [[HoistByHisOwnPetard response is to.. [[ThrownOutTheAirlock drop Sonic uses to turn out of an airlock]] along with all the depowered Chaos into ice to hurt it,]] and the latter because [[VillainBall he keeps opening his damn cockpit and daring Emeralds. [[NotTheFallThatKillsYou Sonic to come at him.]] If survives the fall with no issue]] (which Eggman entirely expected but didn't feel so overconfident to try to personally spite Sonic in either battle, they would've both been a HopelessBossFight.
** The entire plot of ''VideoGame/SonicLabyrinth'' is that Eggman genuinely snuck into Sonic's house
care for), while he was sleeping, and.. swaps his normal with speed-down shoes that would cripple Sonic's trademark speed; the only way to restore it would be to get the Chaos Emeralds from that [[AvertedTrope avert]] the doctor's titular labyrinth. Among all the other problems with this plan, [[DidntThinkThisThrough it doesn't stop infamous BagOfSpilling serve to let Sonic from Spin Dashing both put the world back together and circumventing simultaneously regain his Super form for the shoes altogether.]]FinalBoss. Orbot, one of Eggman's personal robots, [[LampshadeHanging points out this major oversight,]] to which Eggman attempts to [[NotHelpingYourCase (poorly)]] proclaim it was for the sake of a challenge.
16th Aug '17 8:54:35 PM Raikoh
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** [[BigBad Doctor Eggman's]] specialty (known as [[DubNameChange Robotnik in America]]). Constantly hatching up crazy world domination schemes and brilliant inventions, he tries to kill [[TheHero Sonic]] time and time again to the point that his VillainSong in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' has him declaring his yearning of victory over the blue hedgehog. And in many cases, he does trap or get the perfect opportunity. Except time and time again, his inventions have a glaring weakpoint, a significant issue that Sonic can take perfect advantage of, or he flatout spares Sonic in his few moments of victory which [[LaserGuidedKarma bites him in the ass rather quickly every time.]] The only truly notable subversion was in the aforementioned ''Sonic Adventure 2'' where Eggman didn't hold onto the VillainBall and had Sonic's number - which prompted Sonic to AssPull an escape that [[DidntSeeThatComing no one could've predicted.]]
** The entire plot of ''VideoGame/SonicLabyrinth'' is that Robotnik genuinely snuck into Sonic's house while he was sleeping, and.. swaps his normal with speed-down shoes that would cripple Sonic's trademark speed; the only way to restore it would be to get the Chaos Emeralds from the doctor's titular labyrinth. Among all the other problems with this plan, [[DidntThinkThisThrough it doesn't stop Sonic from Spin Dashing and circumventing the shoes altogether.]]
** In the 8-bit version of ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2,'' Dr. Robotnik actually ''rescues'' Sonic from falling to his death -- in order to try killing him his preferred way, in a [[ShoutOut Sarlacc pit]]. Justified in that, at this point, Sonic was supposed to have one of the Chaos Emeralds on his person, so letting him fall into a pit of lava would ''definitely'' put a bit of a wrinkle in Robotnik's plans.

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** [[BigBad Doctor Eggman's]] specialty (known as [[DubNameChange Robotnik in America]]). Constantly hatching up crazy world domination schemes and brilliant inventions, he tries to kill [[TheHero Sonic]] time and time again to the point that his VillainSong in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' has him declaring his yearning of victory over the blue hedgehog. And in many cases, he does trap the blur blur or get the perfect opportunity. Except time and time again, his inventions have a glaring weakpoint, his EvilGloating leaves himself wide open for retaliation, there's a significant issue that Sonic can take perfect advantage of, or he flatout spares Sonic in his few moments of victory which [[LaserGuidedKarma bites him in the ass rather quickly every time.]] The only truly notable subversion was in the aforementioned ''Sonic Adventure 2'' where Eggman didn't hold onto the VillainBall and had Sonic's number - which prompted Sonic to AssPull an escape that [[DidntSeeThatComing no one could've predicted.]]
*** Memorably, Eggman is full of this in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure''. Both the Chaos 6 and Egg Viper fights are only able to be beaten by Sonic ''because'' of Eggman's sheer arrogance; the former because of miniature freezing robots he keeps tossing out which [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Sonic uses to turn Chaos into ice to hurt it,]] and the latter because [[VillainBall he keeps opening his damn cockpit and daring Sonic to come at him.]] If Eggman didn't feel so overconfident to try to personally spite Sonic in either battle, they would've both been a HopelessBossFight.
** The entire plot of ''VideoGame/SonicLabyrinth'' is that Robotnik Eggman genuinely snuck into Sonic's house while he was sleeping, and.. swaps his normal with speed-down shoes that would cripple Sonic's trademark speed; the only way to restore it would be to get the Chaos Emeralds from the doctor's titular labyrinth. Among all the other problems with this plan, [[DidntThinkThisThrough it doesn't stop Sonic from Spin Dashing and circumventing the shoes altogether.]]
** In the 8-bit version of ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2,'' Dr. Robotnik Eggman actually ''rescues'' Sonic from falling to his death -- in order to try killing him his preferred way, in a [[ShoutOut Sarlacc pit]]. Justified in that, at this point, Sonic was supposed to have one of the Chaos Emeralds on his person, so letting him fall into a pit of lava would ''definitely'' put a bit of a wrinkle in Robotnik's plans.
16th Aug '17 4:18:59 PM Raikoh
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** [[BigBad Doctor Eggman's]] specialty (known as [[DubNameChange Robotnik in America]]). Constantly hatching up crazy world domination schemes and brilliant inventions, he tries to kill [[TheHero Sonic]] time and time again to the point that his VillainSong in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' has him declaring his yearning of victory over the blue hedgehog. Except time and time again, his inventions have a glaring weakpoint, a significant issue that Sonic can take perfect advantage of, or he flatout spares Sonic in his few moments of victory which [[LaserGuidedKarma bites him in the ass rather quickly every time.]]
** The entire plot of ''VideoGame/SonicLabyrinth'' is that Robotnik genuinely snuck into Sonic's house while he was sleeping, and.. swaps his normal with speed-down shoes that would cripple Sonic's trademark speed; the only way to restore it would be to get the Chaos Emeralds from the doctor's titular labyrinth. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Except it doesn't stop Sonic from Spin Dashing,]] which effectively rendered the entire plan moot.

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** [[BigBad Doctor Eggman's]] specialty (known as [[DubNameChange Robotnik in America]]). Constantly hatching up crazy world domination schemes and brilliant inventions, he tries to kill [[TheHero Sonic]] time and time again to the point that his VillainSong in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' has him declaring his yearning of victory over the blue hedgehog. And in many cases, he does trap or get the perfect opportunity. Except time and time again, his inventions have a glaring weakpoint, a significant issue that Sonic can take perfect advantage of, or he flatout spares Sonic in his few moments of victory which [[LaserGuidedKarma bites him in the ass rather quickly every time.]] The only truly notable subversion was in the aforementioned ''Sonic Adventure 2'' where Eggman didn't hold onto the VillainBall and had Sonic's number - which prompted Sonic to AssPull an escape that [[DidntSeeThatComing no one could've predicted.]]
** The entire plot of ''VideoGame/SonicLabyrinth'' is that Robotnik genuinely snuck into Sonic's house while he was sleeping, and.. swaps his normal with speed-down shoes that would cripple Sonic's trademark speed; the only way to restore it would be to get the Chaos Emeralds from the doctor's titular labyrinth. Among all the other problems with this plan, [[DidntThinkThisThrough Except it doesn't stop Sonic from Spin Dashing,]] which effectively rendered Dashing and circumventing the entire plan moot.shoes altogether.]]
16th Aug '17 4:08:53 PM Raikoh
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** [[BigBad Doctor Eggman's]] specialty (known as [[DubNameChange Robotnik in America]]). Constantly hatching up crazy world domination schemes and brilliant inventions, he tries to kill [[TheHero Sonic]] time and time again to the point that his VillainSong in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' has him declaring his yearning of victory over the blue hedgehog. Except time and time again, his inventions have a glaring weakpoint, a significant issue that Sonic can take perfect advantage of, or he flatout spares Sonic in his few moments of victory which [[LaserGuidedKarma bites him in the ass rather quickly every time.]]
** The entire plot of ''VideoGame/SonicLabyrinth'' is that Robotnik genuinely snuck into Sonic's house while he was sleeping, and.. swaps his normal with speed-down shoes that would cripple Sonic's trademark speed; the only way to restore it would be to get the Chaos Emeralds from the doctor's titular labyrinth. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Except it doesn't stop Sonic from Spin Dashing,]] which effectively rendered the entire plan moot.
13th Aug '17 6:43:37 AM Sleeping_Beauty
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*** Justifiably invoked by Scaramanga late in the film; he freely admits that he could have used his solar-powered laser to blow up Bond's plane before he even landed on the island, but chose not to do so because of how unsatisfying it would be. (Scaramanga previously [[{{Hypocrite}} got angry at Fat for the previous incident]] and killed him.)

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*** Justifiably invoked by Scaramanga late in the film; he freely admits that he could have used his solar-powered laser to blow up Bond's plane before he even landed on the island, but chose not to do so because of how unsatisfying it would be. (Scaramanga previously [[{{Hypocrite}} got angry at Fat for the previous incident]] and killed him.)
6th Aug '17 4:45:47 AM immortalfrieza
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* During the early days of the ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'' comic books the villains had this trope BAD. Nearly every story involved the villains knocking out Captain America, Bucky, or both, then locking them in a cell or something before declaring that they're going to kill them now, only for Cap and Bucky to have escaped in the meantime. Naturally this results in the villains subsequently being beaten.
30th Jul '17 8:56:18 PM TristanJeremiah
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* [[spoiler: Hugo Strange]] in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''. Even though he knows you are the goddamned Franchise/{{Batman}}, he [[spoiler: doesn't take the opportunity to kill Bats at the beginning when Bruce was unconscious and shackled. He wakes you up and then dumps you into Arkham City without even bothering to track you. And ''then'' he tasks an assassin to kill you, suggesting that he wanted you dead the entire time]].

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* In ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'', Joker gets multiple opportunities to cleanly kill a helpless Batman throughout the game, but declines to do so until Batman truly becomes a thorn in his side later in the game. At one point, Joker even goes so far as to demonstrate that he could kill Batman easily by blowing the brakes on the elevator in which he trapped him. He decides it wouldn't be fun.
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[[spoiler: Hugo Strange]] in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''. Even though he knows you are the goddamned Franchise/{{Batman}}, he [[spoiler: doesn't take the opportunity to kill Bats at the beginning when Bruce was unconscious and shackled. He wakes you up and then dumps you into Arkham City without even bothering to track you. And ''then'' he tasks an assassin to kill you, suggesting that he wanted you dead the entire time]].time]].
** The AntagonistTitle Character of ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' has a chance to kill Batman upon his very first meeting with him, and even knows the weak points of his batsuit. But [[IWantThemAlive he specifically tells his mooks not to kill him]], because he wants to make him suffer.
16th Jul '17 4:35:15 PM cybertoy0
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* During the Dressrosa Arc of ''Anime/OnePiece'', there's an example of this plus NiceJobFixingItVillain: the Straw Hats' plan to liberate the island required knocking Sugar out, thus undoing the effect of her Devil Fruit power on previous victims, which had turned them into toys and made them her slaves (a number that, over ten years, had amounted to thousands). The initial plan was to trick her into eating an incredibly spicy Tatababasco berry disguised as a grape, which would make her collapse. But the plan didn't work well, to say the least; Sugar's toys found out about it, and in the ensuing confrontation ended with Robin becoming a victim of the power in an attempt to restrain Sugar, Usopp beaten up by Sugar's bodyguard Trebol, and the Straw hats' Tontatta allies beaten senseless. It would seem the heroes were, well, doomed. Until Sugar decided that, rather than use her power on Usopp (which she ''usually'' did to captured prisoners, and really had no reason to stop now) she would make him suffer, and force fed him the Tatababasco. It made Usopp make a WildTake to end all Wild Takes, scaring Sugar into submission and, while not the way they planned, knocked her out, doing the job anyway.

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* During ''Anime/OnePiece':
** Played with in Alabasta; Crocodile traps most of the heroes in a cage, tosses the key to one of his giant pet crocodiles, and lets water slowly fill the room. After he leaves, it seems like he's just being overconfident that the good guys are doomed, but it turns out that he has the real key to the cage- the one he tossed was a fake. Nonetheless, the heroes escape thanks to a ChekhovsGun while he's gone.
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the Dressrosa Arc of ''Anime/OnePiece'', Arc, there's an example of this plus NiceJobFixingItVillain: the Straw Hats' plan to liberate the island required knocking Sugar out, thus undoing the effect of her Devil Fruit power on previous victims, which had turned them into toys and made them her slaves (a number that, over ten years, had amounted to thousands). The initial plan was to trick her into eating an incredibly spicy Tatababasco berry disguised as a grape, which would make her collapse. But the plan didn't work well, to say the least; Sugar's toys found out about it, and in the ensuing confrontation ended with Robin becoming a victim of the power in an attempt to restrain Sugar, Usopp beaten up by Sugar's bodyguard Trebol, and the Straw hats' Tontatta allies beaten senseless. It would seem the heroes were, well, doomed. Until Sugar decided that, rather than use her power on Usopp (which she ''usually'' did to captured prisoners, and really had no reason to stop now) she would make him suffer, and force fed him the Tatababasco. It made Usopp make a WildTake to end all Wild Takes, scaring Sugar into submission and, while not the way they planned, knocked her out, doing the job anyway.
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