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16th Jan '17 6:23:17 PM PaulA
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* In the film ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes and the Secret Weapon'', Professor Moriarty originally intends to kill Holmes off quickly, but Holmes goads him into coming up with something "more creative," giving an example himself of the sort of death trap he would use if he had Moriarty at his mercy. Moriarty decides to prove his superior intelligence and creativity by... using the exact idea that Holmes just came up with! He does at least stick around to watch the death trap in action, and prepares to shoot Holmes when he decides it's taking too long; but he waits a bit longer than he should have, and Watson rescues Holmes JustInTime.

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* In the film ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes and the Secret Weapon'', ''Film/SherlockHolmesAndTheSecretWeapon'', Professor Moriarty originally intends to kill Holmes off quickly, but Holmes goads him into coming up with something "more creative," giving an example himself of the sort of death trap he would use if he had Moriarty at his mercy. Moriarty decides to prove his superior intelligence and creativity by... using the exact idea that Holmes just came up with! He does at least stick around to watch the death trap in action, and prepares to shoot Holmes when he decides it's taking too long; but he waits a bit longer than he should have, and Watson rescues Holmes JustInTime.
7th Jan '17 12:12:13 PM GeoffJack
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***The car case above actual [[DownplayedTrope downplays this]] as Zorin does try to get it done while James is still unconscious and even stays at the lake long enough to make sure James didn't survive (James managed to survive by spotting that Zorin was watching and using the air from the tire to stay underwater until Zorin left).
4th Jan '17 6:57:46 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* [[DefiedTrope Refusing to fall into this trope]] is a non-insignifant focus of the EvilOverlordList.
-->''4. [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim Shooting is]] ''[[WhyDontYaJustShootHim not]]'' [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim too good for my enemies]].''\\
''6. I will not [[EvilGloating gloat my enemies' predicament]] before killing them.''\\
''7. When I've captured my adversary and he says, "Look, before you kill me, will you [[JustBetweenYouAndMe at least tell me what this is all about]]?" [[PreMortemOneLiner I'll say, "No." and shoot him]]. No, on second thought [[BondOneLiner I'll shoot him then say "No."]]''\\
''125. Should I actually decide to kill the hero in an elaborate escape-proof [[DeathTrap deathtrap]] room ([[DrowningPit water filling up]], [[BuriedAlive sand pouring down]], [[DescendingCeiling walls converging]], etc.) I will not leave him alone five to ten minutes prior to "imminent" death, but will instead (finding a vantage point or monitoring camera) stick around and enjoy watching my adversary's demise.''\\
''168. I will plan in advance what to do with each of my enemies if they are captured. That way, I will never have to order someone to be tied up while I decide his fate.''
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27th Dec '16 4:30:00 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* ComicBook/LexLuthor (often regarded as one of the worst offenders) actually subverts this in one ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'' episode. He manages to subdue all the heroes except Superman in inescapable deathtraps that actually seem genuinely inescapable. (Even Batman is close to giving up). Then he reveals to his accomplice that this was part of his deal with a group of aliens that live in the sin itself; he gets rid of them, and they turn the sun red, leaving Superman powerless. Hey do so, and Superman is led to a nasty surprise, and Lex uses his final deathtrap on him. Thing is, Luthor is ''not'' being stupid this time. When the aliens double-cross him - as he clearly feared they would - he deactivates ''all'' the death traps with a single button on his vehicle, unleashing the heroes to deal with them. (Unfortunately for Lex, he's not as CrazyPrepared as he'd like; they still find him and haul him to jail after doing so.)

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* ComicBook/LexLuthor (often regarded as one of the worst offenders) actually subverts this in one ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'' episode. He manages to subdue all the heroes except Superman in inescapable deathtraps that actually seem genuinely inescapable. (Even Batman is close to giving up). Then he reveals to his accomplice that this was part of his deal with a group of aliens that live in the sin sun itself; he gets rid of them, and they turn the sun red, leaving Superman powerless. Hey They do so, and Superman is led to a nasty surprise, and Lex uses his final deathtrap on him. Thing is, Luthor is ''not'' being stupid this time. When the aliens double-cross him - as he clearly feared they would - he deactivates ''all'' the death traps with a single button on his vehicle, unleashing the heroes to deal with them. (Unfortunately for Lex, he's not as CrazyPrepared as he'd like; they still find him and haul him to jail after doing so.)
26th Dec '16 8:42:47 PM PaulA
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* In ''Film/FlashGordon'', Ming the Merciless(!) disembarks onto the Hawkmen's floating city (evacuated except for Flash) and has a conversation with Flash, offering him a kingdom of Mongo to rule for himself. After Flash refuses, instead of simply ordering his bodyguards to dispatch the hero, Ming leaves and has his ship's guns blast the city into oblivion. While the city is reeling from the blasts, Flash conveniently falls into a hole where he discovers a rocket cycle.

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* In ''Film/FlashGordon'', ''Film/{{Flash Gordon|1980}}'', Ming the Merciless(!) disembarks onto the Hawkmen's floating city (evacuated except for Flash) and has a conversation with Flash, offering him a kingdom of Mongo to rule for himself. After Flash refuses, instead of simply ordering his bodyguards to dispatch the hero, Ming leaves and has his ship's guns blast the city into oblivion. While the city is reeling from the blasts, Flash conveniently falls into a hole where he discovers a rocket cycle.
12th Dec '16 11:51:13 AM Ohio9
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** ''Film/TheForceAwakens'': For some reason, Kylo thinks leaving Rey in a room with one stormtrooper is a great idea, despite the fact that he just learn she can use the force and her powers are rapidly growing.
12th Dec '16 11:40:25 AM Ohio9
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* In ''Film/SpiderMan1'', Green Goblin knocks out and captures Spiderman, but neither kills him nor takes his mask off to see who he really is. Instead he asks Spiderman to join him, and amazingly, he just leaves him alone to "think it over" after Spiderman turns down the offer.



* In RiseOfTheTombRaider, Lara is captured by Trinity soldiers, who proceed to lock her in an ancient crumbling prison and leave her there without posting any guards. As if that wasn't dumb enough, they also leave her equipment right outside her cell (along with a set of jail keys), which ultimately results in one of the quickest jail cell escapes in video game history.

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* In RiseOfTheTombRaider, ''RiseOfTheTombRaider'', Lara is captured by Trinity soldiers, who proceed to lock her in an ancient crumbling prison and leave her there without posting any guards. As if that wasn't dumb enough, they also leave her equipment right outside her cell (along with a set of jail keys), which ultimately results in one of the quickest jail cell escapes in video game history.
12th Dec '16 11:34:44 AM Ohio9
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* In RiseOfTheTombRaider, Lara is captured by Trinity soldiers, who proceed to lock her in an ancient crumbling prison and leave her there without posting any guards. As if that wasn't dumb enough, they also leave her equipment right outside her cell (along with a set of jail keys), which ultimately results in one of the quickest jail cell escapes in video game history.
12th Dec '16 11:29:52 AM Ohio9
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*** Also in Ada Wong's campaign, Ada gets knocked out by a TranquilizerDart. Instead of killing her immediately, the villains put her in a conveniently slow death trap. Naturally, Ada wakes up just in time to escape from it.
9th Dec '16 8:22:35 PM merotoker
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'''Scott:''' What? [[NoMrBondIExpectYouToDine Are you feeding him?]] Why don't you just kill him?\\

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'''Scott:''' What? [[NoMrBondIExpectYouToDine Are you feeding him?]] him? Why don't you just kill him?\\



* The villain considers killing the hero secondary to breaking his spirit via a BreakingLecture, ForcedToWatch, etc.

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* The villain considers killing the hero secondary to breaking his spirit via a BreakingLecture, [[BreakThemByTalking Breaking Lecture]], ForcedToWatch, etc.



** The BigBad does this during the game as well. He goes off on a long-winded display and speech that not only allows the hero to think but also [[BerserkMode pisses him off]], which allows him to retaliate.

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** The BigBad does this during the game as well. He goes off on a long-winded display and speech that not only allows the hero to think but also [[BerserkMode [[UnstoppableRage pisses him off]], which allows him to retaliate.



** Despite being a supergenius, Doctor Doom falls prey to this a lot whenever he's trying to kill his hated ArchEnemy Reed Richards. This is sort of justified though, because Doom's end goal isn't killing Reed it's proving to Reed that Doom is smarter than him, and ''then'' killing him. Therefore, killing Reed without gloating about how he has been outsmarted and making him watch Doom TakeOverTheWorld and kill everyone Reed loves isn't just a tad disappointing to Doom it would be completely antithetical to Doom's entire purpose in being evil.

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** Despite being a supergenius, Doctor Doom ComicBook/DoctorDoom falls prey to this a lot whenever he's trying to kill his hated ArchEnemy Reed Richards. This is sort of justified though, because Doom's end goal isn't killing Reed it's proving to Reed that Doom is smarter than him, and ''then'' killing him. Therefore, killing Reed without gloating about how he has been outsmarted and making him watch Doom TakeOverTheWorld and kill everyone Reed loves isn't just a tad disappointing to Doom it would be completely antithetical to Doom's entire purpose in being evil.



* In ''Machinima/ClearSkies 3'', [[spoiler:Ghost wastes time monologuing, which gives Charlie and Sol time to salvage a shell and use it to kill him.]]

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* In ''Machinima/ClearSkies 3'', [[spoiler:Ghost wastes time monologuing, which gives Charlie and Sol time to salvage a shell and use it to kill him.]]him]].



* In ''Disney/TheLionKing'', Scar really should have known better than to trust [[CoDragons the Hyenas]] to kill Simba.
** Also, whispering to Simba that he indeed killed Mufasa wasn't too bright, as it led to Simba's HeroicSecondWind.

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* In ''Disney/TheLionKing'', Scar really should have known better than to trust [[CoDragons the Hyenas]] to kill Simba.
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Simba. Also, whispering to Simba that he indeed killed Mufasa wasn't too bright, as it led to Simba's HeroicSecondWind.



* Had Bane chosen to end Batman's life in their first confrontation in ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', he and [[spoiler: Talia al Ghul]] would have succeeded in their plan to destroy Gotham City. Batman even asks Bane in prison when he first woke up: "Why don't you just kill me?" to which Bane replies, "You don't fear death. You welcome it. Your punishment must be more ''severe''." Later, [[spoiler:Talia]] monologues at length to Bruce about how much better revenge is when it's done slowly, giving the heroes enough time to [[spoiler:block her remote triggering of a nuclear bomb.]] Bruce lampshades this shortly after, responding, "maybe the slow knife was ''too slow''." Once [[spoiler:Talia]] leaves Bane, having [[TaughtByExperience learned his lesson]], he ignores her order to let him live and tries to kill him then and there; only Comicbook/{{Catwoman}}'s BigDamnHeroes arrival saves him.

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* Had Bane chosen to end Batman's life in their first confrontation in ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', he and [[spoiler: Talia al Ghul]] would have succeeded in their plan to destroy Gotham City. Batman even asks Bane in prison when he first woke up: "Why don't you just kill me?" to which Bane replies, "You don't fear death. You welcome it. Your punishment must be more ''severe''." Later, [[spoiler:Talia]] monologues at length to Bruce about how much better revenge is when it's done slowly, giving the heroes enough time to [[spoiler:block her remote triggering of a nuclear bomb.]] bomb]]. Bruce lampshades this shortly after, responding, "maybe the slow knife was ''too slow''." Once [[spoiler:Talia]] leaves Bane, having [[TaughtByExperience learned his lesson]], he ignores her order to let him live and tries to kill him then and there; only Comicbook/{{Catwoman}}'s BigDamnHeroes arrival saves him.



* An EnforcedTrope for the Bene-Tleilaxu in ''{{Literature/Dune}}''. The Tleilaxu follow a code of honor that mandates that whenever they plan to kill somebody, they must always leave the victim some kind of opening to escape if only they're smart enough to notice it. This is due to their strong SocialDarwinist beliefs, the logic being that if the victim is smart enough to escape the DeathTrap, then they deserve to live.

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* An EnforcedTrope for the Bene-Tleilaxu in ''{{Literature/Dune}}''. The Tleilaxu follow a code of honor that mandates that whenever they plan to kill somebody, they must always leave the victim some kind of opening to escape if only they're smart enough to notice it. This is due to their strong SocialDarwinist [[TheSocialDarwinist Social Darwinist]] beliefs, the logic being that if the victim is smart enough to escape the DeathTrap, then they deserve to live.



** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshade hung]] in an episode when Harmony captures Dawn in order to get Buffy to attempt to rescue and then capture Buffy. When Harmony's minions point out that they could just kill Dawn because as long as Buffy believes Dawn to be alive then she'll come anyway, instead of waiting until Buffy arrives to kill Dawn. Harmony refuses "Because that's not the plan, duh!".

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** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshade hung]] in an episode when Harmony captures Dawn in order to get Buffy to attempt to rescue and then capture Buffy. When Harmony's minions point out that they could just kill Dawn because as long as Buffy believes Dawn to be alive then she'll come anyway, instead of waiting until Buffy arrives to kill Dawn. Harmony refuses "Because that's not the plan, duh!".



* Morgana in the BBC series ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'' is guilty of so many examples of this that the only way the series manages to work is an equal amount of [[ForgotAboutHisPowers Plot-Induced Stupidity]] for the good guys to balance her out.

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* Morgana in the BBC series ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'' is guilty of so many examples of this that the only way the series manages to work is to provide the good guys with an equal amount of [[ForgotAboutHisPowers Plot-Induced Stupidity]] for the good guys to balance her out.



* [[Wrestling/KevinNash Diesel]] Vs. Wrestling/TheUndertaker at WrestleMania XII. Near the end, Diesel refused to immediately pin 'Taker post-[[FinishingMove Jackknife Powerbomb]], instead choosing to engage in some premature and lengthy EvilGloating while the match was still in progress -- against someone whom Diesel clearly knew had a knack for MyNameIsInigoMontoya-style recoveries. Oh, and the kicker? After 'Taker indeed rose back up, Diesel quickly managed to Jackknife him once again... and then actually '''''repeated''''' said kind of Gloating. Unsurprisingly, as LaserGuidedKarma for such foolishness, Diesel ultimately proceeded to become the fifth Streak victim.

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* [[Wrestling/KevinNash Diesel]] Vs. Wrestling/TheUndertaker at WrestleMania Wrestling/WrestleMania XII. Near the end, Diesel refused to immediately pin 'Taker post-[[FinishingMove Jackknife Powerbomb]], instead choosing to engage in some premature and lengthy EvilGloating while the match was still in progress -- against someone whom Diesel clearly knew had a knack for MyNameIsInigoMontoya-style recoveries. Oh, and the kicker? After 'Taker indeed rose back up, Diesel quickly managed to Jackknife him once again... and then actually '''''repeated''''' said kind of Gloating. Unsurprisingly, as LaserGuidedKarma for such foolishness, Diesel ultimately proceeded to become the fifth Streak victim.



* TSR's 80s ''Marvel Super Heroes'' game, at least in its advanced version, rewarded villains who indulged in this with Karma -- the game's mix of LuckManipulationMechanic and ExperiencePoints. Putting heroes into deathtraps? Same reward as defeating them, even if they escape or get rescued later. Bragging about one's brilliance and letting valuable clues slip? 20-point reward flat. (Conversely, even villains still ''lose'' Karma for killing, mechanically disincentivizing the JustShootHim approach by just that bit.)

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* TSR's 80s ''Marvel Super Heroes'' game, at least in its advanced version, rewarded villains who indulged in this with Karma -- the game's mix of LuckManipulationMechanic and ExperiencePoints. Putting heroes into deathtraps? Same reward as defeating them, even if they escape or get rescued later. Bragging about one's brilliance and letting valuable clues slip? 20-point reward flat. (Conversely, even villains still ''lose'' Karma for killing, mechanically disincentivizing the JustShootHim Just Shoot Him approach by just that bit.)



** This happens in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil4'' when the village chief nearly strangles Leon to death but lets him go when he sees he's been [[spoiler:injected with a [[PuppeteerParasite Plagas]] egg, knowing that he'll eventually succumb to the parasite's control.]] He later admits in a memo that he gravely underestimated Leon's capabilities and that at the rate he's going, he'll probably destroy the whole village before [[spoiler:the Plagas takes over.]]

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** This happens in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil4'' when the village chief nearly strangles Leon to death but lets him go when he sees he's been [[spoiler:injected with a [[PuppeteerParasite Plagas]] egg, knowing that he'll eventually succumb to the parasite's control.]] control]]. He later admits in a memo that he gravely underestimated Leon's capabilities and that at the rate he's going, he'll probably destroy the whole village before [[spoiler:the Plagas takes over.]]over]].



* Double Subverted in ''VideoGame/Uncharted2AmongThieves'': [[spoiler: Near the end of the game, Lazarevic has Drake and Elena held hostage. Lazarevic's right-hand man Harry Flynn suggests shooting them immediately, but Lazarevic wants to wait until the gates to the lost city of Shambhala are opened just to drive the fact in that he beat Drake. As soon as they're opened, he immediately has his men prepare to open fire on them, looking like waiting didn't really matter and he's actually subverting this trope - only for Shambhala's guardians to start attacking everyone, giving Drake and Elena a chance to escape.]]

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* Double Subverted in ''VideoGame/Uncharted2AmongThieves'': [[spoiler: Near the end of the game, Lazarevic has Drake and Elena held hostage. Lazarevic's right-hand man Harry Flynn suggests shooting them immediately, but Lazarevic wants to wait until the gates to the lost city of Shambhala are opened just to drive the fact in that he beat Drake. As soon as they're opened, he immediately has his men prepare to open fire on them, looking like waiting didn't really matter and he's actually subverting this trope - only for Shambhala's guardians to start attacking everyone, giving Drake and Elena a chance to escape.]]escape]].



* Played straight in ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutron''. In the ''Film/JamesBond'' parody "Operation: Rescue Jet Fusion", Jimmy and Jet are left in an elaborate death trap... and manage to escape.

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* Played straight in ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutron''.''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutronBoyGenius''. In the ''Film/JamesBond'' parody "Operation: Rescue Jet Fusion", Jimmy and Jet are left in an elaborate death trap... and manage to escape.



* {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d and {{averted|Trope}} in the first season finale of ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex''. When [[BigBad Van Kleiss]] gives the order [[spoiler: for [[TheDragon Biowolf]] to dispose of a [[BroughtDownToNormal depowered]] Rex]]. Rex asks him if he'd rather lock him a cage or tie him to a slab and use a slow moving laser on him, [[spoiler: Biowolf simply says "No", and tosses him out the window of [[AirborneAircraftCarrier the Keep]]]]. Interestingly enough, this is played straight later in the episode by the [[spoiler: {{Big|Good}} [[DesignatedHero "Good"]]]] of all people, who [[spoiler: chooses not to turn his electromagnet defense system high enough to tear the nanites out of Biowolf's body, but simply to immobilize him for a good old fashioned beat down.]]

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* {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d and {{averted|Trope}} in the first season finale of ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex''. When [[BigBad Van Kleiss]] gives the order [[spoiler: for [[TheDragon Biowolf]] to dispose of a [[BroughtDownToNormal depowered]] Rex]]. Rex asks him if he'd rather lock him a cage or tie him to a slab and use a slow moving laser on him, [[spoiler: Biowolf simply says "No", and tosses him out the window of [[AirborneAircraftCarrier the Keep]]]]. Interestingly enough, this is played straight later in the episode by the [[spoiler: {{Big|Good}} [[DesignatedHero "Good"]]]] of all people, who [[spoiler: chooses not to turn his electromagnet defense system high enough to tear the nanites out of Biowolf's body, but simply to immobilize him for a good old fashioned beat down.]]down]].



* ComicBook/LexLuthor (often regarded as one of the worst offenders) actually subverts this in one ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'' episode. He manages to subdue all the heroes except Superman in inescapable deathtraps that actually seem genuinely inescapable. (Even Batman is close to giving up). Then he reveals to his accomplice that this was part of his deal with a group of aliens that live in the sin itself; he gets rid of them, and they turn the sun red, leaving Superman powerless. hey do so, and Superman is led to a nasty surprise, and Lex uses his final deathtrap on him. Thing is, Luthor is ''not'' being stupid this time. When the aliens double-cross him - as he clearly feared they would - he deactivates ''all'' the death traps with a single button on his vehicle, unleashing the heroes to deal with them. (Unfortunately for Lex, he's not as CrazyPrepared as he'd like; they still find him and haul him to jail after doing so.)

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* ComicBook/LexLuthor (often regarded as one of the worst offenders) actually subverts this in one ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'' episode. He manages to subdue all the heroes except Superman in inescapable deathtraps that actually seem genuinely inescapable. (Even Batman is close to giving up). Then he reveals to his accomplice that this was part of his deal with a group of aliens that live in the sin itself; he gets rid of them, and they turn the sun red, leaving Superman powerless. hey Hey do so, and Superman is led to a nasty surprise, and Lex uses his final deathtrap on him. Thing is, Luthor is ''not'' being stupid this time. When the aliens double-cross him - as he clearly feared they would - he deactivates ''all'' the death traps with a single button on his vehicle, unleashing the heroes to deal with them. (Unfortunately for Lex, he's not as CrazyPrepared as he'd like; they still find him and haul him to jail after doing so.)



** In "Vilgax Must Croak", Vilgax has Ben at his mercy, unconcious, in human form and defenseless, with everybody around unable to assist. He still decides to just escape his jail and leave Ben alive, even though it would have probably taken him a second at best to kill him.

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** In "Vilgax Must Croak", Vilgax has Ben at his mercy, unconcious, unconscious, in human form and defenseless, with everybody around unable to assist. He still decides to just escape his jail and leave Ben alive, even though it would have probably taken him a second at best to kill him.
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