History Main / BlackVikings

21st Jun '16 2:19:27 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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[[caption-width-right:345:One of them is not like the others (not the guy with no [[HornyVikings hat]]).]]

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[[caption-width-right:345:One of them is not like the others (not the guy with no [[HornyVikings hat]]).helmet]]).]]
14th Jun '16 10:25:49 PM Doug86
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* ''Film/AKidInKingArthursCourt'' had black people fully integrated into a [[TheThemeParkVersion Theme Park Version]] of KingArthur's court with no explanation given whatsoever. (Although considering the KingArthur of popular culture is a myth, which might excuse this.)

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* ''Film/AKidInKingArthursCourt'' had black people fully integrated into a [[TheThemeParkVersion Theme Park Version]] of KingArthur's Myth/KingArthur's court with no explanation given whatsoever. (Although considering the KingArthur King Arthur of popular culture is a myth, which might excuse this.)



* The AmbiguouslyBrown Sir Bryant in ''The Legend of ComicStrip/PrinceValiant'' looks like an example of this at first, until it is explained in a centric episode that he is an exiled Moorish prince that joined KingArthur's knights after arriving in England and suffering quite a few misfortunes there too -- among them the assassination of his wife and son by thieves.

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* The AmbiguouslyBrown Sir Bryant in ''The Legend of ComicStrip/PrinceValiant'' looks like an example of this at first, until it is explained in a centric episode that he is an exiled Moorish prince that joined KingArthur's Myth/KingArthur's knights after arriving in England and suffering quite a few misfortunes there too -- among them the assassination of his wife and son by thieves.
12th Jun '16 7:06:11 PM danlansdowne
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* In the 1973 film version of ''Music/JesusChristSuperstar'', Judas (the VillainProtagonist) is black. Some critics saw the casting as racist, but the filmmakers insisted that Carl Anderson was simply the best man for the role. Jesus, meanwhile, is white, Mary Magdalene is Hawaiian, and the other disciples are all different races.

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* In the 1973 film version of ''Music/JesusChristSuperstar'', Judas (the VillainProtagonist) is black. Some critics saw the casting as racist, but the filmmakers insisted that Carl Anderson was simply the best man for the role.role (Ben Vereen faced similar criticism in the role on Broadway). Jesus, meanwhile, is white, Mary Magdalene is Hawaiian, and the other disciples are all different races.
6th Jun '16 1:03:51 PM DoctorTItanX
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* In ''Manga/FushigiYuugi'', Nakago is blonde-haired and blue-eyed, yet living in Ancient China. He's explicitly stated to be a foreigner, later revealed to be a member of a tribe that lived in the Kutou region that tended to have those traits. There may be some basis to this; see the Real Life section for details.
* Karin from ''Manga/UQHolder'' could easily pass as being Japanese despite the fact that she's implied to be [[spoiler:Judas Iscariot]]

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* In ''Manga/FushigiYuugi'', Nakago is blonde-haired and blue-eyed, yet living in Ancient China. He's explicitly stated to be a foreigner, later revealed to be a member of a tribe that lived in the Kutou region that tended to have those traits. There may be some basis to this; see this. See the Real Life section for details.
* Karin from ''Manga/UQHolder'' could easily pass as being Japanese Japanese, despite the fact that she's implied to be [[spoiler:Judas Iscariot]]Iscariot]].
6th Jun '16 11:38:02 AM Doug86
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* (Mostly) Muslim Tartars have been an important part of Polish nobility and military since Middle Ages onward. They are descended from the Mongols of the Golden Horde (which ruled over Russian lands) many of whom signed on as mercenaries under rulers of Poland and Lithuania, and later, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Some of them were part of the Polish-Lithuanian contingent that served under Napoleon. There were Tartar units in the WorldWar2 era Polish army, including the Polish Army in exile that fought alongside the British after Poland fell. Given that the "Mongols" of the Golden Horde actually drew from the wide mixture of populations that made up the world-spanning Mongol Empire, the Polish Tartars may well have included persons of even more exotic backgrounds.

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* (Mostly) Muslim Tartars have been an important part of Polish nobility and military since Middle Ages onward. They are descended from the Mongols of the Golden Horde (which ruled over Russian lands) many of whom signed on as mercenaries under rulers of Poland and Lithuania, and later, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Some of them were part of the Polish-Lithuanian contingent that served under Napoleon. There were Tartar units in the WorldWar2 UsefulNotes/WorldWarII era Polish army, including the Polish Army in exile that fought alongside the British after Poland fell. Given that the "Mongols" of the Golden Horde actually drew from the wide mixture of populations that made up the world-spanning Mongol Empire, the Polish Tartars may well have included persons of even more exotic backgrounds.



* African German [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Hauck Hans Hauck]] was a soldier in the [[NazisWithGnarlyWeapons German Wehrmacht]] during UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo. There were quite a few African Germans in Nazi Germany, either descended from people from the [[ImperialGermany colonies]] or the children of black French soldiers from the 1923-25 Occupation of the Ruhr, so called Rhineland bastards. Indeed, as they were considered inferior and not fit for military service, but not a threat like Jews and Slavs, black Germans were more likely to survive the war than ethnic Germans.

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* African German [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Hauck Hans Hauck]] was a soldier in the [[NazisWithGnarlyWeapons German Wehrmacht]] during UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. There were quite a few African Germans in Nazi Germany, either descended from people from the [[ImperialGermany colonies]] or the children of black French soldiers from the 1923-25 Occupation of the Ruhr, so called Rhineland bastards. Indeed, as they were considered inferior and not fit for military service, but not a threat like Jews and Slavs, black Germans were more likely to survive the war than ethnic Germans.
14th Apr '16 7:52:57 PM Ambaryerno
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** A much straighter example of this trope is the rumored casting of Tessa Thompson as the heroine Valkyrie for ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. Who in the comics was a mortal Norse woman name Brunnhilde empowered by Odin to guide the slain to Valhalla.
29th Mar '16 1:14:53 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''[[VideoGame/SakuraWars Sakura Taisen V]]'' features Sagiita Weinberg, an African-American female lawyer in the TheRoaringTwenties; while college-educated black professionals were far from unheard of since the early 1900s, what's odd is that this character never has to fight prejudice or racism in the series (which instead would have been likely). Even for an AlternateHistory, this is just stretching it a bit.


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* ''VideoGame/SakuraWars: [[VideoGame/SakuraWarsSoLongMyLove So Long, My Love]]'' features Sagitta Weinberg/[[DubNameChange Cheiron Archer]], an African-American female lawyer in the TheRoaringTwenties; while college-educated black professionals were far from unheard of since the early 1900s, what's odd is that this character never has to fight prejudice or racism in the series (which instead would have been likely). Even for an AlternateHistory, this is just stretching it a bit.
23rd Mar '16 4:57:41 PM Shishkahuben
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* An urban legend claims that a [[http://www.rc-trucks.org/who-is-on-the-2-bill.htm black man]] is depicted at the signing of the Declaration of Independence on the back of the American $2 bill. It turns out that the man is Robert Morris, a white financier who later became a Pennsylvania senator. His face appears dark because it is overly shadowed in the bill's picture, which is an engraved copy of a famous painting. In the painting, Morris is unmistakably white.

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* An urban legend claims that a [[http://www.rc-trucks.org/who-is-on-the-2-bill.htm black man]] man is depicted at the signing of the Declaration of Independence on the back of the American $2 bill. It turns out that the man is Robert Morris, a white financier who later became a Pennsylvania senator. His face appears dark because it is overly shadowed in the bill's picture, which is an engraved copy of a famous painting. In the painting, Morris is unmistakably white.
29th Jan '16 5:29:13 PM nombretomado
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* The later SvenHassel novels introduced Stabsgefreiter Albert Mumbuto, a black soldier in the German army of UsefulNotes/WW2. However the website [[http://www.svenhassel.info/ Porta's Kitchen]] mentioned a documentary where several black Germans were interviewed, including at least one soldier. Germany had had an African colonial empire until 1919 so there were a number of African-Germans long after that. This matter surfaces in Istvan Szabo's movie ''Mephisto'', taking place in the 1930s, in which the protagonist, a famous theatre director, has an African-German mistress and therefore gets chastised by an angry Hermann Göring. Even if pretty unexpected for a modern reader, [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] [[http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005479 racism towards blacks]] [[http://www.ushmm.org/research/library/bibliography/?lang=en&content=blacks is well-documented]] and horrible, but it wasn't as systematic as their main targets.

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* The later SvenHassel Creator/SvenHassel novels introduced Stabsgefreiter Albert Mumbuto, a black soldier in the German army of UsefulNotes/WW2. However the website [[http://www.svenhassel.info/ Porta's Kitchen]] mentioned a documentary where several black Germans were interviewed, including at least one soldier. Germany had had an African colonial empire until 1919 so there were a number of African-Germans long after that. This matter surfaces in Istvan Szabo's movie ''Mephisto'', taking place in the 1930s, in which the protagonist, a famous theatre director, has an African-German mistress and therefore gets chastised by an angry Hermann Göring. Even if pretty unexpected for a modern reader, [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] [[http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005479 racism towards blacks]] [[http://www.ushmm.org/research/library/bibliography/?lang=en&content=blacks is well-documented]] and horrible, but it wasn't as systematic as their main targets.
26th Jan '16 5:26:29 AM Dimas28
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** Actually, scratch that. Central Asia was (and still is) famous for being a region where practically everyone mixes in here and there, being home to at least four different linguistic groups (the Mongols, the Tungusics, the Turks, and the Finno-Ugrics) whose sole ''raison d'être'', at least until the modern day (and sometimes even then), is to ride horses that take them to a new part of the world with actual living being a second priority. Add this with the sedentary Indo-European groups with light hair and eye color who came in, intermarry, and eventually assimilated themselves with them (actual Indo-Europeans are quite rare in Central Asia nowadays, except in Tajikistan), and the rest is history. Common mixtures include those having hair so blond, eyes so blue or green that people would mistake them as, say, Germans; those having jet black hair and slanted brown eyes that people might mistake them as Chinese or Japanese; or people with Caucasian features but darker skin that people might mistake them as South Asians or South Arabians.


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** In reverse, there are people with black hair, brown eyes, and Asiatic features in places like *gasp* Northern Europe. And no, not just the Native American Vikings mentioned above; they're actual, indigenous peoples. Most significant is the Finno-Ugric peoples, who primarily have dark hair and slanted brown eyes in their native Ural Mountains home; modern Finns, Estonians, Hungarians, and Samis are actually oddities among them since they assimilated themselves with their Indo-European neighbors, causing them to have Caucasian features and (in the case of Northern Europeans), light hair and eye color. Even then, their original traits haven't gone forever, which is why one can sometimes find Finns with "Chinese-looking" eyes, even though they otherwise have blond hair. For example, [[http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10rmj6a&s=8#.Vqdys_l97IU this woman]] is a fully-blooded Finn.
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