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15th Oct '17 4:14:32 AM SSJMagus
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* ''Film/TheNorsemen'' features the late Deacon Jones as an African thrall (a.k.a. slave). Which, by itself, isn't really that egregious.

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* ''Film/TheNorsemen'' features the late Deacon Jones as an African thrall (a.k.a. slave). Which, by itself, isn't really that egregious. Vikings would enslave some captives of any race as thralls, and sometimes freed thralls would become Vikings themselves. If there were any historical black Vikings (the Viking Sagas do have ambiguous references to some Vikings with dark skin), this is how it would've happened.



* ''Film/{{Thor}}'', based on the comic book, has two examples of non-whites among Norse Gods. In the movie, the idea is put forth that the Asgardians aren't really gods but [[HumanAliens extradimensional beings]] that the Scandanavians mistook for deities after seeing them battle Frost Giants on Earth. It's also a manner of the Asgardians in the Marvel universe not actually being exactly the same as real-world Aesir mythology. Amusingly, the Asgardian played by a black actor was Heimdall, is described in Norse mythology as "the whitest of the gods".
* German actor Günther Kaufmann, whose father was an African-American GI, plays a Viking in ''Wickie und die starken Männer'' (''Wickie and the Strong Men''), thus [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin making this a very literal example of this trope]]. Because to heavy Viking make up, Kaufmann's actual ethnicity is hard to tell, though.

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* ''Film/{{Thor}}'', based on the comic book, has two examples of non-whites among Norse Gods. In the movie, the idea is put forth that the Asgardians aren't really gods but [[HumanAliens extradimensional beings]] that the Scandanavians Scandinavians mistook for deities after seeing them battle Frost Giants on Earth. It's also a manner of the Asgardians in the Marvel universe not actually being exactly the same as real-world Aesir mythology. Amusingly, the Asgardian played by a black actor was Heimdall, is described in Norse mythology as "the whitest of the gods".
* German actor Günther Kaufmann, whose father was an African-American GI, plays a Viking in ''Wickie und die starken Männer'' (''Wickie and the Strong Men''), thus [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin making this a very literal example of this trope]]. Because to heavy Viking make up, [[AmbiguouslyBrown Kaufmann's actual ethnicity is hard to tell, tell]], though.



* Andromeda, the DamselInDistress in the [[Myth/ClassicalMythology myth about Perseus]], is the daughter of the Ethiopian king Cepheus. But [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Persus_wiewael.jpg in most illustrations]], [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Rembrandt_Harmensz._van_Rijn_011.jpg her skin colour]] [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/1840_Chasseriau_Theodore_-_Andromeda_Chained_to_the_Rock_by_the_Nereids.jpg is decidedly]] [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Paul_Gustave_Dore_Andromeda.jpg very un-Ethiopian.]] (NSFW, if your boss doesn't like nipples!) [[JustifiedTrope Although:]] According to the TangledFamilyTree of the Greek mythological characters, she wasn't ethnically Ethiopian anyway, at least not 100 %. (Her father's ancestry can be traced back to Poseidon, but there is no information about where her mother Cassiopeia comes from.) Also, some people speculate that Cepheus' kingdom wasn't ''that'' Ethiopia.[[note]]At several times throughout history, "Ethiopia" meant literally any place in Africa, so it's entirely possible she came from a northern pre-Muslim African nation -- the people there would have had skin and hair colors much closer to ancient Greeks, and when one factors in how many mixed marriages there were between the various cultures, it makes more sense. The problem is that there were text describing Andromeda's dark skin. Possibly not black, but not actually until later artists decided not to depict her as such.[[/note]]

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* Andromeda, the DamselInDistress in the [[Myth/ClassicalMythology myth about Perseus]], is the daughter of the Ethiopian king Cepheus. But [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Persus_wiewael.jpg in most illustrations]], [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Rembrandt_Harmensz._van_Rijn_011.jpg her skin colour]] [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/1840_Chasseriau_Theodore_-_Andromeda_Chained_to_the_Rock_by_the_Nereids.jpg is decidedly]] [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Paul_Gustave_Dore_Andromeda.jpg very un-Ethiopian.]] (NSFW, if your boss doesn't like nipples!) [[JustifiedTrope Although:]] According to the TangledFamilyTree of the Greek mythological characters, she wasn't ethnically Ethiopian anyway, at least not 100 %.100%. (Her father's ancestry can be traced back to Poseidon, but there is no information about where her mother Cassiopeia comes from.) Also, some people speculate that Cepheus' kingdom wasn't ''that'' Ethiopia.[[note]]At several times throughout history, "Ethiopia" meant literally any place in Africa, so it's entirely possible she came from a northern pre-Muslim African nation -- the people there would have had skin and hair colors much closer to ancient Greeks, and when one factors in how many mixed marriages there were between the various cultures, it makes more sense. The problem is that there were text describing Andromeda's dark skin. Possibly not black, but not actually until later artists decided not to depict her as such.[[/note]]
2nd Oct '17 11:23:59 AM JohnnyChimpo
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** For what it's worth, the [[http://100n100.bbim.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/292697.jpg 1953 South Bend team]] (who won the Indiana Championship) apparently was integrated, albeit with a white coaching staff.
16th Sep '17 12:46:23 AM AntonF
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* Indo-European tribes had historically a larger settlement pattern in Eurasia before they became limited to Europe, and the Indian subcontinent, and the Iranian Plateau. This explains anecdotes of fair-haired, fair-skinned, and light-eyed people in cultures neighboring them, such as Ancient China, which has multiple references to such traits in their literature, including the ''Records of the Grand Historian''. Even today, Uyghurs now populating the Tarim Basin in Western China are sometimes born with blond or red hair and blue eyes, implying that the former peoples did not disappear outright, but rather became assimilated with the invading Turks from the north.

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* Indo-European tribes had historically a larger settlement pattern in Eurasia before they became limited to Europe, and the Indian subcontinent, and the Iranian Plateau. This explains anecdotes of fair-haired, fair-skinned, and light-eyed people in cultures neighboring them, such as Ancient China, which has multiple references to such traits in their literature, including the ''Records of the Grand Historian''. Even today, Uyghurs now populating the Tarim Basin in Western China are sometimes born with blond or red hair and blue eyes, implying that the former peoples did not disappear outright, but rather became assimilated with the invading Turks from the north.


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* On the flipside, people with so-called "Mongoloid" features (usually epicanthic folds, though they aren't actually limited to people of Asian descent, either) have a much more expansive dispersion than many people give them credit for.
** The Bering Land Bridge opened colonization opportunities mostly for the Asiatic Paleosiberian peoples; Native Americans looking like Asians aren't an anomaly, ''that's how they should look like'' as they are descended from them, although millennia of separation had made them evolve distinctive features. The rule is the farther north one goes, the more "Asian" people would look like, culminating with the Inuit of Canada, Alaska, and Greenland, who look virtually indistinguishable with East Asians (their ancestors migrated from Asia to Alaska less than two millennia ago. [[OlderThanYouThink By boat]], as the Land Bridge had long been submerged).
** Similarly, Asiatic features are quite widespread in Central Asia (i.e. UsefulNotes/{{Kazakhstan}}, UsefulNotes/{{Kyrgyzstan}}, UsefulNotes/{{Tajikistan}}, UsefulNotes/{{Turkmenistan}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Uzbekistan}}), which clueless media tend to stereotype/lump together with the largely Caucasian Middle East due to a lack of research. It can even be said that people with the former features outnumber the latter, with Uzbekistan serving as the divider (mostly Mongoloid Uzbeks and mostly Caucasian Tajiks). And no, it's not because of Genghis Khan's invasions; the region, being largely flat steppe and desert, has long been a haven for nomads hailing from various different places (and incidentally also permitted the above mentioned Indo-Europeans to settle the Tarim Basin).
13th Sep '17 1:12:59 AM windleopard
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* Franchise/WonderWoman. The first example of this was the Silver Age character Nubuia who was retconned in as Diana's long lost, black sister who was also made of clay but was kidnapped by Mars. Since the Perez run from the 1980s, the Wonder Woman Amazons have been shown as being a multi-racial society with Amazons from Europe, East Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

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* Franchise/WonderWoman. The first example of this was the Silver Age character Nubuia Nubia who was retconned in as Diana's long lost, black sister who was also made of clay but was kidnapped by Mars. Since the Perez run from the 1980s, the Wonder Woman Amazons have been shown as being a multi-racial society with Amazons from Europe, East Asia, Africa and the Middle East.
13th Sep '17 1:10:40 AM windleopard
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* ComicBook/Wonder Woman. The first example of this was the character of Nubuia who was retconned in as Diana's long lost, black sister who was also made of clay but was kidnapped by Mars. Since the Perez run from the 1980s, the Wonder Woman Amazons have been shown as being a multi-racial society with Amazons from Europe, East Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

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* ComicBook/Wonder Woman. Franchise/WonderWoman. The first example of this was the Silver Age character of Nubuia who was retconned in as Diana's long lost, black sister who was also made of clay but was kidnapped by Mars. Since the Perez run from the 1980s, the Wonder Woman Amazons have been shown as being a multi-racial society with Amazons from Europe, East Asia, Africa and the Middle East.
13th Sep '17 1:06:52 AM windleopard
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* ComicBook/Wonder Woman. The first example of this was the character of Nubuia who was retconned in as Diana's long lost, black sister who was also made of clay but was kidnapped by Mars. Since the Perez run from the 1980s, the Wonder Woman Amazons have been shown as being a multi-racial society with Amazons from Europe, East Asia, Africa and the Middle East.
11th Sep '17 7:34:18 PM lorgskyegon
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* The live action version of ''BeautyAndTheBeast2017'' has a number of black people at the Prince's party. While the black singer is possible, though unlikely, in 18th Century France, black courtiers (the dancers) are pretty much impossible.
27th Aug '17 10:22:42 PM Doodler
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* Parodied in ''WebVideo/DiamandaHagan'''s review of "Vikingdom" when they talk about how historically inaccurate the film is and Malcolm shows up in Viking costume. Happy Viking, Malcolm, and Diamanda get so caught up in the argument that it takes them a while to realize they're all completely aware that black Vikings did in fact exist.

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* Parodied in ''WebVideo/DiamandaHagan'''s review of "Vikingdom" when they talk about how historically inaccurate the film is and Malcolm shows up in Viking costume. Happy Viking, Malcolm, and Diamanda get so caught up in the argument that it takes them a while to realize they're all completely aware that black Vikings did in fact exist.exist, and Diamanda calling Malcolm historically inaccurate was because he had a [[HornyVikings horned helmet]].
6th Aug '17 8:32:37 AM AntonF
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* Indo-European tribes had historically a larger settlement pattern in Eurasia before they became limited to Europe, and the Indian subcontinent, and the Iranian Plateau. This explains anecdotes of fair-haired, fair-skinned, and light-eyed people in cultures neighboring them, such as Ancient China, which has multiple references to such traits in their literature, including the ''Records of the Grand Historian''. Even today, Uyghurs now populating the Tarim Basin in Western China are sometimes born with blond or red hair and blue eyes, implying that the former peoples did not disappear outright, but rather became assimilated with the invading Turks from the north.
** UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan is sometimes said to have ginger hair.
** Yes, this means that light hair and eyes, while uncommon, are not unheard of in India and Iran. One of Gautama Buddha's 32 Signs of a Great Man/Chakravartin is in fact possession of blue eyes. Yes, this also means that casting a German man as Buddha is more historically accurate than casting him with, say, a Chinese.
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11th Jul '17 2:33:02 AM Cornflakesdan
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** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3'', a Black man named Sigint was recruited by Zero in 1960s America for his skill and not because of his color. Notable in that Sigint was recruited during the final year of Jim Crow Laws, which barred Blacks from using the same facilities as Whites in America.

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** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3'', a Black man named Sigint was recruited by Zero in 1960s America for his skill and not because of his color. Notable in that Sigint was recruited during the final year of Jim Crow Laws, which barred Blacks from using the same facilities as Whites in America. Lampshaded as Sigint discusses the racism present during that time, and comments that racism will be present even in the twenty-first century.
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