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23rd Sep '16 1:23:27 PM FunkyPurpleDuck
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* ''Webcomic/{{EVIL}}'': Being a [[WackyCollege university]] [[AcademyOfEvil for villains]], pretty much the entire main cast are explicitly evil, with the exception of [[MinionWithAnFInEvil Trevor]], who isn't particularly '''good''', either.
22nd Sep '16 11:26:40 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/BlackMoonChronicles'': Wismerhill is and friends are primarily self-interested warlords, but the BigBad Haazheel Thorn is an EvilSorcerer and OmnicidalManiac.
16th Sep '16 10:44:09 PM Ploopyandproud
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*** Has-beens struggling to find a purpose in life (Troy McClure, Ranier Wolfcastle, Drederick Tatum)

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*** Has-beens struggling to find a purpose in life (Troy McClure, [=McClure=], Ranier Wolfcastle, Drederick Tatum)
16th Sep '16 10:43:13 PM Ploopyandproud
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*** An unbridled tyrant (Mr. Burns)
*** Violent criminals (Snake, Fat Tony's gang, Sideshow Bob)
*** Greedy, amoral, corrupt scumbags (Mayor Quimby, Krusty, Troy [=McClure=])
*** Smarmy self-important worthless parasites (Kent Brockman, Chief Wiggum, Lionel Hutz, Reverend Lovejoy)
*** Nihilist punks (Dolph, Jimbo, & Kearney, Patti & Selma)
*** Soul-sucking obstructionist nags (Helen Lovejoy, Agnes Skinner, Jackie Bouvier)

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*** An unbridled tyrant A monstrously evil [[CorruptCorporateExecutive businessman]] (Mr. Burns)
*** Violent criminals (Snake, Fat Tony's gang, Sideshow Bob)
Bob, Fat Tony and his gang)
*** Greedy, amoral, Amoral, corrupt scumbags (Mayor Quimby, Krusty, Troy [=McClure=])
Chief Wiggum, Lionel Hutz)
*** Smarmy Smarmy, self-important worthless parasites (Kent Brockman, Chief Wiggum, Lionel Hutz, Reverend Lovejoy)
*** Nihilist Nihilistic punks (Dolph, Jimbo, & Kearney, Patti & Selma)
the kids from Shelbyville)
*** Soul-sucking obstructionist nags (Helen Lovejoy, Agnes Skinner, Jackie Patty and Selma Bouvier)



*** Smart, good-hearted idealists who have a laundry list of bizarre psychological and emotional issues and are prone to horrendous breakdowns (Lisa, Marge, Dr. Hibbert)

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*** Scientists and doctors with [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate dubious credentials]] (Dr. Nick, Dr. Hibbert, Dr. Monroe, Professor Frink)
*** Smart, good-hearted idealists who have a laundry list of bizarre psychological and emotional issues and are prone to horrendous breakdowns (Lisa, Marge, Dr. Hibbert)Marge)



*** Ordinary schmoes who are harmless most of the time but have the occasional bout of astounding jerkiness (Smithers, Carl, Eddie)
*** World-weary drones beaten down by years of misery and resigned to their dismal fate (Apu, Edna, Sideshow Mel, Ms. Hoover)
*** Bitter cynics (Arnie Pie, Comic Book Guy, Abraham)
*** Eternal Jekyll-and-Hyde flipfloppers (Homer, Bart, Nelson, Moe, Barney)
*** Has-beens struggling to find a purpose in life (Ranier Wolfcastle, Drederick Tatum)
*** Punching bags (Gil, Hans Moleman, Martin)
*** Clueless dopes (Lenny, Cletus, Brandine, Ralph, pimply-faced teenager)
*** Assorted weirdos, crackpots, and lunatics (Otto, Superintendent Chalmers, Dr. Nick, Professor Frink, Groundskeeper Willie, Crazy Cat Lady, Jasper, Cookie Kwan)

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*** Ordinary schmoes who are harmless most of the time but have the occasional bout of astounding jerkiness can be extremely underhanded and crafty (Smithers, Carl, Eddie)
*** World-weary drones beaten down by years of misery and resigned to their dismal fate (Apu, Edna, Sideshow Mel, Ms. Hoover)
Mel)
*** Bitter cynics (Arnie Pie, (Krusty, Comic Book Guy, Abraham)
*** Eternal Jekyll-and-Hyde flipfloppers Unscrupulous everymen with the capacity to do both good and bad (Homer, Bart, Nelson, Moe, Barney)
*** Has-beens struggling to find a purpose in life (Ranier (Troy McClure, Ranier Wolfcastle, Drederick Tatum)
*** Punching bags (Gil, (Arnie Pie, Hans Moleman, Martin)
*** Clueless dopes (Lenny, Cletus, Brandine, Otto, Ralph, pimply-faced teenager)
*** Assorted weirdos, crackpots, and lunatics (Otto, Superintendent (Superintendent Chalmers, Dr. Nick, Professor Frink, Groundskeeper Willie, Crazy Cat Lady, Jasper, Cookie Kwan)
13th Sep '16 2:42:46 PM thatother1dude
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* While the main cast of ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' seems to be mostly good, the overall Autobot/Decepticon conflict is frequently shown in this light: Ultra Magnus is OK with lying to the public if he thinks it will protect the peace, someone like [[{{Jerkass}} Sentinel Prime]] is a [[TheNeidermeyer a high ranking officer]] while [[TheHero Optimus]] is [[AlmightyJanitor a space bridge repairman]], and they won the great war by [[spoiler:creating an Autobot as a superweapon and making him deliberately unintelligent so he doesn't question his own destructive actions]].
** According to ''[[AllThereInTheManual The AllSpark Almanac II]],'' [[spoiler:they didn't create just ''one'' Autobot-as-a-superweapon. ''[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Omega_Sentinel_%28Animated%29 They created a whole series of them,]]'' with only ''two'' surviving (one in the loosest definintion of the word)]].
** More prevalent in the third season, where [[spoiler:''Prime considers sending a near-death Sari into battle against said superweapon'']], among other things.
** The main five aren't free from it. In "Where Is Thy Sting?", the innocent, emotionally-traumatized Wasp is pursued very aggressively by Bulkhead, who also accuses him of never being a good robot, when he's HOLDING HIS BEST FRIEND HOSTAGE. Yeah Bulkhead, that's real good hostage negotiations. Also, he starts to beat up the unconscious and helpless Bumblebee (thinking he's Wasp) right at the end.
** And in a comic that comes free with the toy Jetfire/Jetstorm, Ultra Magnus is fine with running experiments on 'expendable' Autobots in order to create a flying Autobot. He says, "Find me somebody expendable." Admittedly, in this case "expendable" seems to have been "twins who were caught in an explosion and would have died anyway."
** Meanwhile the Decepticons are more than happy to manipulate potential allies and scrap them when they finish serving their purpose, and field test [=WMDs=] in populated civilian territories out of petty revenge.

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* While the main cast of ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' seems to be mostly good, the overall Autobot/Decepticon conflict is frequently shown in this light: Ultra Magnus is OK with lying to the public if he thinks it will protect the peace, someone like [[{{Jerkass}} Sentinel Prime]] is a [[TheNeidermeyer a high ranking officer]] while [[TheHero Optimus]] is [[AlmightyJanitor a space bridge repairman]], and they won the great war by [[spoiler:creating an Autobot as a superweapon and making him deliberately unintelligent so he doesn't question his own destructive actions]].
** According to ''[[AllThereInTheManual The AllSpark Almanac II]],'' [[spoiler:they didn't create just ''one'' Autobot-as-a-superweapon. ''[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Omega_Sentinel_%28Animated%29 They created a whole series of them,]]'' with only ''two'' surviving (one in the loosest definintion of the word)]].
** More prevalent in the third season, where [[spoiler:''Prime considers sending a near-death Sari into battle against said superweapon'']], among other things.
** The main five aren't free from it. In "Where Is Thy Sting?", the innocent, emotionally-traumatized Wasp is pursued very aggressively by Bulkhead, who also accuses him of never being a good robot, when he's HOLDING HIS BEST FRIEND HOSTAGE. Yeah Bulkhead, that's real good hostage negotiations. Also, he starts to beat up the unconscious and helpless Bumblebee (thinking he's Wasp) right at the end.
** And in a comic that comes free with the toy Jetfire/Jetstorm, Ultra Magnus is fine with running experiments on 'expendable' Autobots in order to create a flying Autobot. He says, "Find me somebody expendable." Admittedly, in this case "expendable" seems to have been "twins who were caught in an explosion and would have died anyway."
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actions]]. Meanwhile the Decepticons are [[AliensAreBastards universally hostile to all other forms of life]], are more than happy to manipulate potential allies and scrap them when they finish serving their purpose, and field test [=WMDs=] in populated civilian territories out of petty revenge.
24th Jul '16 3:13:28 AM GenBolt
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** Prior to D-Generation X, the nWo initially had this effect on Nitro. Wrestlers that were previously clearly-defined heels, such as the Giant and Harlem Heat, were portrayed as almost-faces simply because as mean-spirited and under-handed as they were, nWo were simply that much worse. Harlem Heat cheated to win the titles? Big deal, Hollywood Hogan just publicly humiliated and beat down a man, whom he ''still'' considered to be his best friend, simply to prove a point to Ric Flair before their title match, then sprayed Ric Flair in the eyes with spray paint furing said match.

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** Prior to D-Generation X, the nWo initially had this effect on Nitro. Wrestlers that were previously clearly-defined heels, such as the Giant and Harlem Heat, were portrayed as almost-faces simply because as mean-spirited and under-handed as they were, the nWo were simply that much worse. Harlem Heat cheated to win the titles? Big deal, Hollywood Hogan just publicly humiliated and beat down a man, Brutus Beefcake, whom he ''still'' considered to be his best friend, simply just to prove a point to Ric Flair before their title match, then sprayed Ric Flair in the eyes with spray paint furing during said match.
24th Jul '16 3:11:49 AM GenBolt
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** Prior to D-Generation X, the nWo initially had this effect on Nitro. Wrestlers that were previously clearly-defined heels, such as the Giant and Harlem Heat, were portrayed as almost-faces simply because as mean-spirited and under-handed as they were, nWo were simply that much worse. Harlem Heat cheated to win the titles? Big deal, Hollywood Hogan just publicly humiliated and beat down a man, whom he ''still'' considered to be his best friend, simply to prove a point to Ric Flair before their title match, then sprayed Ric Flair in the eyes with spray paint furing said match.
9th Jul '16 2:31:33 PM KGBtheRussianSpy
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* WesternAnimation/GravityFalls has many extremely shady characters as heroes, the biggest example being the unabashed petty criminal Grunkle Stan. However, their enemy is [[spoiler: quite literally a demon.]]
8th Jul '16 9:31:13 AM Josef5678
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* ''Webcomic/TheBedfellows'': Fatigue is an air-headed ButtMonkey and Sheen is an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist.
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