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13th Jun '17 11:30:19 PM BigKlingy
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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'' did this for Ashnard, BigBad of ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Path of Radiance]]''. While we knew in that game that Ashnard became king by [[KlingonPromotion killing everyone else in line for the throne]], ending with [[SelfMadeOrphan his father]], we don't find out ''how'' he did it until ''Radiant Dawn''. We also find out that [[spoiler: he took a princess of the Dragon Tribe as his wife [[DesignerBabies in hope that the resulting child would be super-powerful]], but cast bother her and the son out when he found out he had no particular special powers. That son would turn out to be [[TheSpock Soren]], which makes a lot of sense in hindsight, although neither Ashnard nor Soren are aware of this.]]

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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'' did this for Ashnard, BigBad of ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Path of Radiance]]''. While we knew in that game that Ashnard became king by [[KlingonPromotion killing everyone else in line for the throne]], ending with [[SelfMadeOrphan his father]], we don't find out ''how'' he did it until ''Radiant Dawn''. We also find out that [[spoiler: he took a princess of the Dragon Tribe as his wife [[DesignerBabies [[DarwinistDesire in hope that the resulting child would be super-powerful]], but cast bother her and the son out when he found out he had no particular special powers. That son would turn out to be [[TheSpock Soren]], which makes a lot of sense in hindsight, although neither Ashnard nor Soren are aware of this.]]
13th Jun '17 11:28:40 PM BigKlingy
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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'' did this for Ashnard, BigBad of ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Path of Radiance]]''. While we knew in that game that Ashnard became king by [[KlingonPromotion killing everyone else in line for the throne]], ending with [[SelfMadeOrphan his father]], we don't find out ''how'' he did it until ''Radiant Dawn''. We also find out that [[spoiler: he took a princess of the Dragon Tribe as his wife [[DesignerBabies in hope that the resulting child would be super-powerful]], but cast bother her and the son out when he found out he had no particular special powers. That son would turn out to be [[TheSpock Soren]], which makes a lot of sense in hindsight, although neither Ashnard nor Soren are aware of this.]]
13th Jun '17 11:19:55 PM BigKlingy
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* The Fell Dragon Grima, main antagonist of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', had no backstory and very little personality beyond being a GenericDoomsdayVillain. ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia]]'' includes a postgame quest that details his backstory: he's the result of a MadScientist (well, Alchemist) experimenting on dragon corpses and [[DragonsAreDivine Divine Dragon blood]] in order to create the UltimateLifeForm. [[GoneHorriblyRight It worked a little too well...]]
25th Feb '17 8:38:40 AM Elfkaiser
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24th Jan '17 3:06:11 PM drakensis
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* Late in the third act of ''Film/{{ROTOR}},'' the protagonist reveals that he spent much of his childhood on an Indian reservation. This appears to be an attempt to justify his ability to find R.O.T.O.R. in the woods.

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* Late in In FanFic/LovehammerInc a conversation about the third act customs of ''Film/{{ROTOR}},'' a planet Angron conquered years before has him casually mention he's been married at least twice, which came as a complete shock to most of the protagonist reveals that he spent much rest of his childhood on an Indian reservation. This appears to be an attempt to justify his ability to find R.O.T.O.R. in the woods.Imperial Family. It doesn't seem to matter particularly to him, perhaps explaining why he hadn't mentioned this before.


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* Late in the third act of ''Film/{{ROTOR}},'' the protagonist reveals that he spent much of his childhood on an Indian reservation. This appears to be an attempt to justify his ability to find R.O.T.O.R. in the woods.
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17th Dec '16 7:19:40 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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What separates BelatedBackstory from normal CharacterDevelopment is that this change in characterization happens without warning and little justification from what had already been shown of that character. However, since it usually occurs early on in a series, it's often accepted by fans as a needed ReTool to change the character along with the not yet solidified flow of a new series. Really, just mix and match from the BackstoryIndex.

This phenomenon is not really CharacterDerailment, as producers often state that they just didn't know the character back then, and a more complex and interesting character usually arises from [[ReTool retooling]] of the initially more [[FlatCharacter flat portrayal]], instead of the other way around (though not always).

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What separates BelatedBackstory from normal CharacterDevelopment is that this change in characterization happens without warning and little justification from what had already been shown of that character. However, since it usually occurs early on in a series, it's often accepted by fans as a needed ReTool to change the character along with the not yet solidified not-yet-solidified flow of a new series.series; in other words, a SubTrope of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. Really, just mix and match from the BackstoryIndex.

This phenomenon is not really CharacterDerailment, as producers often state that they just didn't know the character back then, and a more complex and interesting character usually arises from [[ReTool retooling]] {{retool}}ing of the initially more [[FlatCharacter flat portrayal]], instead of the other way around (though not always).



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29th Sep '16 4:14:23 PM DaibhidC
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* Sam Vimes in ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' apparently only learns his ''own'' backstory as the books go on. In ''Literature/GuardsGuards'' he's vaguely surprised to learn Ankh-Morpork ever had kings and doesn't seem to feel strongly about them either way; ''Discworld/MenAtArms'' is both the first mention that the last king was executed by Suffer-Not-Injustice Vimes and the first book where Sam expresses anti-monarchist views; and by ''Discworld/FeetOfClay'' a large part of his character is his fierce egalitarian beliefs and pride in his otherwise despised ancestor.

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* Sam Vimes in ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' apparently only learns his ''own'' backstory as the books go on. In ''Literature/GuardsGuards'' ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'' he's vaguely surprised to learn Ankh-Morpork ever had kings and doesn't seem to feel strongly about them either way; ''Discworld/MenAtArms'' is both the first mention that the last king was executed by Suffer-Not-Injustice Vimes and the first book where Sam expresses anti-monarchist views; and by ''Discworld/FeetOfClay'' a large part of his character is his fierce egalitarian beliefs and pride in his otherwise despised ancestor.
29th Sep '16 4:11:14 PM DaibhidC
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* Sam Vimes in ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' apparently only learns his ''own'' backstory as the books go on. In ''Literature/GuardsGuards'' he's vaguely surprised to learn Ankh-Morpork ever had kings and doesn't seem to feel strongly about them either way; ''Discworld/MenAtArms'' is both the first mention that the last king was executed by Suffer-Not-Injustice Vimes and the first book where Sam expresses anti-monarchist views; and by ''Discworld/FeetOfClay'' a large part of his character is his fierce egalitarian beliefs and pride in his otherwise despised ancestor.
23rd Aug '16 3:20:17 AM Adept
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* The Patrician in the first ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' book is portrayed as a fat, jewel-encrusted glutton, but later becomes an extremely spartan person who eats only bread and water and has a figure to match. Since the difference is so drastic, and it is several years in-story before the Patrician is given a name, many fans just assumed they were different men until WordOfGod said otherwise.
** A subtler example of this trope in Literature/{{Discworld}} might be the Senior Wrangler, who started out as being functionally indistinguishable from his colleagues, the Lecturer in Recent Runes and the Chair of Indefinite Studies. As of ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}'' and ''Discworld/TheLastContinent'', he's ''still'' largely interchangeable with them, except that he's fallen in love on at least two occasions. ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}'' also gave him a working class background for some SlobsVersusSnobs rivalry with the Dean, but this seems to have fallen by the wayside since.
** Death's daughter Ysabell in ''Discworld/TheLightFantastic'' is a psycho with a scythe. By ''Discworld/{{Mort}}'' she's a lot less insane, though still desperate for company.
* Bean from ''EndersGame'' undergoes a complete character change between his appearances in the first book and his own story arc.
23rd May '16 7:59:41 PM Anddrix
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** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker and ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} are also examples of this. They both debut in Batman #1 and had their origins revealed in Detective Comics #168 and Batman #62, respectively.

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** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker and ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} are also examples of this. They both debut in Batman #1 and had their origins revealed in Detective Comics #168 and Batman #62, respectively.
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