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23rd Dec '17 7:10:15 AM RedScharlach
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* Happens to Pythagoras in {{Series/Atlantis}} who goes from innocent, triangle loving, loyal friend to Jason and Hercules, to suddenly being revealed to have accidently [[spoiler: killed his father after pushing him away, trying to protect his mother from one of his father's drunken attacks, causing his father to fall hard and hit his head, killing him instantly.]] However, after he is forgiven by his younger brother, [[spoiler: who spent the entire episode trying to get revenge on the mystery 'burgler' who he was told killed his father]] he goes back to being his innocent, {{Adorkable}} and long-suffering genius character once more...

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* Happens to Pythagoras in {{Series/Atlantis}} who goes from innocent, triangle loving, loyal friend to Jason and Hercules, to suddenly being revealed to have accidently accidentally [[spoiler: killed his father after pushing him away, trying to protect his mother from one of his father's drunken attacks, causing his father to fall hard and hit his head, killing him instantly.]] However, after he is forgiven by his younger brother, [[spoiler: who spent the entire episode trying to get revenge on the mystery 'burgler' 'burglar' who he was told killed his father]] he goes back to being his innocent, {{Adorkable}} and long-suffering genius character once more...



* Kuja from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' , which is especially grating because throughout most of the game he is a completely unsympathetic monster.

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* Kuja from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' , ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'', which is especially grating because throughout most of the game he is a completely unsympathetic monster.



** His lastest backstory shows he was an MD and was even competent, until [[spoiler: a Yeti tried to crack his head open]]

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** His lastest latest backstory shows he was an MD and was even competent, until [[spoiler: a Yeti tried to crack his head open]]
1st Nov '17 7:27:45 PM darkemyst
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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': Despite being major characters, we learn next to nothing about the pasts of James, Lily, Snape, Dumbledore, and Voldemort until the last three books.
** Granted, we did get an early peek at Voldemort's past in book two, but it was pretty vague until book six.
** Likewise Neville, whom we know very little about until ''Goblet of Fire''. Much of what we learn makes things in the first three books HarsherInHindsight.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': Despite being major characters, we learn next to nothing about the pasts of James, Lily, Snape, Dumbledore, and Voldemort until the last three books.
[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix last]] [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince three]] [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows books]].
** Granted, we did get an early peek at Voldemort's past in [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets book two, two]], but it was pretty vague until book six.
** Likewise Neville, whom we know very little about until ''Goblet ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire Goblet of Fire''.Fire]]''. Much of what we learn makes things in the first three books HarsherInHindsight.
23rd Oct '17 10:35:53 PM infernape612
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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'' did this for Ashnard, BigBad of ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Path of Radiance]]''. While we knew in that game that Ashnard became king by [[KlingonPromotion killing everyone else in line for the throne]], ending with [[SelfMadeOrphan his father]], we don't find out ''how'' he did it until ''Radiant Dawn''. We also find out that [[spoiler: he took a princess of the Dragon Tribe as his wife [[DarwinistDesire in hope that the resulting child would be super-powerful]], but cast bother her and the son out when he found out he had no particular special powers. That son would turn out to be [[TheSpock Soren]], which makes a lot of sense in hindsight, although neither Ashnard nor Soren are aware of this.]]

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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'' did this for Ashnard, BigBad of ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Path of Radiance]]''. While we knew in that game that Ashnard became king by [[KlingonPromotion killing everyone else in line for the throne]], ending with [[SelfMadeOrphan his father]], we don't find out ''how'' he did it until ''Radiant Dawn''. We also find out that [[spoiler: he took a princess of the Dragon Tribe as his wife [[DarwinistDesire in hope that the resulting child would be super-powerful]], but cast bother both her and the son out when he found out he had no particular special powers. That son would turn out to be [[TheSpock Soren]], which makes a lot of sense in hindsight, although neither Ashnard nor Soren are aware of this.]]



* While Bob from ''ReBoot'' was a very popular and interesting character, some fans quickly caught on to small changes to his personality to better fit the backstory revealed in season 4. That could partially be blamed on the three plus years between seasons.

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* While Bob from ''ReBoot'' ''WesternAnimation/ReBoot'' was a very popular and interesting character, some fans quickly caught on to small changes to his personality to better fit the backstory revealed in season 4. That could partially be blamed on the three plus years between seasons.
13th Jun '17 11:30:19 PM BigKlingy
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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'' did this for Ashnard, BigBad of ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Path of Radiance]]''. While we knew in that game that Ashnard became king by [[KlingonPromotion killing everyone else in line for the throne]], ending with [[SelfMadeOrphan his father]], we don't find out ''how'' he did it until ''Radiant Dawn''. We also find out that [[spoiler: he took a princess of the Dragon Tribe as his wife [[DesignerBabies in hope that the resulting child would be super-powerful]], but cast bother her and the son out when he found out he had no particular special powers. That son would turn out to be [[TheSpock Soren]], which makes a lot of sense in hindsight, although neither Ashnard nor Soren are aware of this.]]

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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'' did this for Ashnard, BigBad of ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Path of Radiance]]''. While we knew in that game that Ashnard became king by [[KlingonPromotion killing everyone else in line for the throne]], ending with [[SelfMadeOrphan his father]], we don't find out ''how'' he did it until ''Radiant Dawn''. We also find out that [[spoiler: he took a princess of the Dragon Tribe as his wife [[DesignerBabies [[DarwinistDesire in hope that the resulting child would be super-powerful]], but cast bother her and the son out when he found out he had no particular special powers. That son would turn out to be [[TheSpock Soren]], which makes a lot of sense in hindsight, although neither Ashnard nor Soren are aware of this.]]
13th Jun '17 11:28:40 PM BigKlingy
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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'' did this for Ashnard, BigBad of ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Path of Radiance]]''. While we knew in that game that Ashnard became king by [[KlingonPromotion killing everyone else in line for the throne]], ending with [[SelfMadeOrphan his father]], we don't find out ''how'' he did it until ''Radiant Dawn''. We also find out that [[spoiler: he took a princess of the Dragon Tribe as his wife [[DesignerBabies in hope that the resulting child would be super-powerful]], but cast bother her and the son out when he found out he had no particular special powers. That son would turn out to be [[TheSpock Soren]], which makes a lot of sense in hindsight, although neither Ashnard nor Soren are aware of this.]]
13th Jun '17 11:19:55 PM BigKlingy
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* The Fell Dragon Grima, main antagonist of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', had no backstory and very little personality beyond being a GenericDoomsdayVillain. ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia]]'' includes a postgame quest that details his backstory: he's the result of a MadScientist (well, Alchemist) experimenting on dragon corpses and [[DragonsAreDivine Divine Dragon blood]] in order to create the UltimateLifeForm. [[GoneHorriblyRight It worked a little too well...]]
25th Feb '17 8:38:40 AM Elfkaiser
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24th Jan '17 3:06:11 PM drakensis
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* Late in the third act of ''Film/{{ROTOR}},'' the protagonist reveals that he spent much of his childhood on an Indian reservation. This appears to be an attempt to justify his ability to find R.O.T.O.R. in the woods.

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* Late in In FanFic/LovehammerInc a conversation about the third act customs of ''Film/{{ROTOR}},'' a planet Angron conquered years before has him casually mention he's been married at least twice, which came as a complete shock to most of the protagonist reveals that he spent much rest of his childhood on an Indian reservation. This appears to be an attempt to justify his ability to find R.O.T.O.R. in the woods.Imperial Family. It doesn't seem to matter particularly to him, perhaps explaining why he hadn't mentioned this before.


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* Late in the third act of ''Film/{{ROTOR}},'' the protagonist reveals that he spent much of his childhood on an Indian reservation. This appears to be an attempt to justify his ability to find R.O.T.O.R. in the woods.
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17th Dec '16 7:19:40 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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What separates BelatedBackstory from normal CharacterDevelopment is that this change in characterization happens without warning and little justification from what had already been shown of that character. However, since it usually occurs early on in a series, it's often accepted by fans as a needed ReTool to change the character along with the not yet solidified flow of a new series. Really, just mix and match from the BackstoryIndex.

This phenomenon is not really CharacterDerailment, as producers often state that they just didn't know the character back then, and a more complex and interesting character usually arises from [[ReTool retooling]] of the initially more [[FlatCharacter flat portrayal]], instead of the other way around (though not always).

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What separates BelatedBackstory from normal CharacterDevelopment is that this change in characterization happens without warning and little justification from what had already been shown of that character. However, since it usually occurs early on in a series, it's often accepted by fans as a needed ReTool to change the character along with the not yet solidified not-yet-solidified flow of a new series.series; in other words, a SubTrope of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. Really, just mix and match from the BackstoryIndex.

This phenomenon is not really CharacterDerailment, as producers often state that they just didn't know the character back then, and a more complex and interesting character usually arises from [[ReTool retooling]] {{retool}}ing of the initially more [[FlatCharacter flat portrayal]], instead of the other way around (though not always).



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29th Sep '16 4:14:23 PM DaibhidC
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* Sam Vimes in ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' apparently only learns his ''own'' backstory as the books go on. In ''Literature/GuardsGuards'' he's vaguely surprised to learn Ankh-Morpork ever had kings and doesn't seem to feel strongly about them either way; ''Discworld/MenAtArms'' is both the first mention that the last king was executed by Suffer-Not-Injustice Vimes and the first book where Sam expresses anti-monarchist views; and by ''Discworld/FeetOfClay'' a large part of his character is his fierce egalitarian beliefs and pride in his otherwise despised ancestor.

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* Sam Vimes in ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' apparently only learns his ''own'' backstory as the books go on. In ''Literature/GuardsGuards'' ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'' he's vaguely surprised to learn Ankh-Morpork ever had kings and doesn't seem to feel strongly about them either way; ''Discworld/MenAtArms'' is both the first mention that the last king was executed by Suffer-Not-Injustice Vimes and the first book where Sam expresses anti-monarchist views; and by ''Discworld/FeetOfClay'' a large part of his character is his fierce egalitarian beliefs and pride in his otherwise despised ancestor.
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