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19th May '16 8:22:11 PM WithFlowers
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** ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion'' plays with this; being about ghosts, it can have various historical figures continue on in the Underworld without rewriting their established histories. That said, historical importance is no guarantee of post-mortem importance.
** ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'' is an aversion, with the imbued first showing up around 1999 (the year of the game's release), and none of them being well-known. There're theories about historical antecedents, but nothing solid.

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** ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion'' plays with this; being about ghosts, it can have various historical figures continue on in the Underworld without rewriting their established histories. That said, historical importance is no guarantee of post-mortem importance.
importance. As with Vampire, above, it does address the Holocaust, but only in the context of what happened to the victims' souls after their deaths; the atrocities themselves were completely free of supernatural influence and the book that covers the Holocaust explicitly overrides anything that says otherwise, like the aforementioned "Himmler the vampire" idea from ''Berlin by Night''.
** ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'' is an aversion, with the imbued first showing up around 1999 (the year of the game's release), and none of them being well-known. There're theories about historical antecedents, but nothing solid.
11th May '16 3:30:01 AM Morgenthaler
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* The ''Hexer von Salem'' stories by German author Wolfgang Hohlbein, being grounded in his take on the Franchise/CthulhuMythos, quite naturally have [[Creator/HPLovecraft Howard P. Lovecraft]] himself as an important supporting character with actual if only occasionally used time travel powers who helps the main protagonist Robert Craven deal with the assorted horrors as best he can, especially early in the series. He's also a former high-ranking member of the actual (modern-day, which here means late 19th century) [[TheKnightsTemplar Knights Templar]], who'd still like a word with him about quitting on them... -- The series in general isn't at all shy about dragging famous historical or fictional characters into its plot, but Lovecraft is probably the most straightforward and prominent example of the trope.

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* The ''Hexer von Salem'' stories by German author Wolfgang Hohlbein, being grounded in his take on the Franchise/CthulhuMythos, quite naturally have [[Creator/HPLovecraft Howard P. Lovecraft]] himself as an important supporting character with actual if only occasionally used time travel powers who helps the main protagonist Robert Craven deal with the assorted horrors as best he can, especially early in the series. He's also a former high-ranking member of the actual (modern-day, which here means late 19th century) [[TheKnightsTemplar [[UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar Knights Templar]], who'd still like a word with him about quitting on them... -- The series in general isn't at all shy about dragging famous historical or fictional characters into its plot, but Lovecraft is probably the most straightforward and prominent example of the trope.
5th May '16 4:29:29 AM NhazUl
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** And in the third film, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin went to the moon [[spoiler: to explore the ruins of a Cybertronian starship]].

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** And in the third film, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin went to the moon [[spoiler: to explore the ruins of a Cybertronian starship]].starship. Also, the stopping of both the American and Soviet space programs was engineered by the Decepticons so that the ship remains undiscovered. The Chernobyl disaster is also revealed to be the result of an experiment with a power cell from the same ship.]].
21st Apr '16 3:24:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the ''[[ComicBook/TwoThousandAD 2000 AD]]'' comic ''Comicbook/{{Necronauts}}'', Charles Fort, Creator/ArthurConanDoyle, Creator/HarryHoudini and Creator/HPLovecraft go up against the Franchise/CthulhuMythos.

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* ''ComicBook/TwoThousandAD'':
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In the ''[[ComicBook/TwoThousandAD 2000 AD]]'' comic ''Comicbook/{{Necronauts}}'', Charles Fort, Creator/ArthurConanDoyle, Creator/HarryHoudini and Creator/HPLovecraft go up against the Franchise/CthulhuMythos.Franchise/CthulhuMythos.
** ''ComicBook/ALoveLikeBlood'': The Bathory family are descendents of the vampire king. At one point he resurrects some of his "daughters" (banshee-bat creatures) to hunt down his rebellious son Jacques.
20th Apr '16 6:51:15 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the ''[[ComicBook/TwoThousandAD 2000 AD]]'' comic ''Comicbook/{{Necronauts}}'', in a similar setup to the ''Arcanum'' example below, Charles Fort, Creator/ArthurConanDoyle, Creator/HarryHoudini and Creator/HPLovecraft go up against the Franchise/CthulhuMythos.

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* In the ''[[ComicBook/TwoThousandAD 2000 AD]]'' comic ''Comicbook/{{Necronauts}}'', in a similar setup to the ''Arcanum'' example below, Charles Fort, Creator/ArthurConanDoyle, Creator/HarryHoudini and Creator/HPLovecraft go up against the Franchise/CthulhuMythos.
20th Mar '16 6:10:14 AM KhymChanur
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* In Creator/CharlesStross's ''Literature/TheLaundrySeries'', Alan Turing discovered a way to use mathematics to do [[FunctionalMagic magic]], which was immediately [[GovernmentConspiracy covered up by the government]].

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* In Creator/CharlesStross's ''Literature/TheLaundrySeries'', Alan Turing Creator/AlanTuring discovered a way to use mathematics to do [[FunctionalMagic magic]], which was immediately [[GovernmentConspiracy covered up by the government]].
17th Mar '16 12:15:30 AM PaulA
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** ''Three Days To Never'' has a truly unconventional [[TimeTravel time machine]] created by UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein as a result of his exploration into astral projection and the Sephirot, with Creator/CharlieChaplin lending a hand at some point.

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** ''Three Days To Never'' ''Literature/ThreeDaysToNever'' has a truly unconventional [[TimeTravel time machine]] created by UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein as a result of his exploration into astral projection and the Sephirot, with Creator/CharlieChaplin lending a hand at some point.
16th Mar '16 8:42:31 PM PaulA
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** Thomas Edison appears (as a ghost) in ''Expiration Date''.

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** Thomas Edison UsefulNotes/ThomasEdison appears (as a ghost) in ''Expiration Date''.''Literature/ExpirationDate''.
14th Mar '16 2:14:01 AM PaulA
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** ''Last Call'' has Bugsy Siegel serving as the uncrowned emperor of Las Vegas while channeling the archetype of the FisherKing.

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** ''Last Call'' ''Literature/LastCall'' has Bugsy Siegel serving as the uncrowned emperor of Las Vegas while channeling the archetype of the FisherKing.



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11th Feb '16 5:11:04 AM OddOneIn
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* The founder of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', according to the episode "Irrational Treasure", was Sir Lord Quentin Trembley III, the 8th & 1/2 president of the USA. He was [[CloudCuckoolander the most ridiculous president of the US]], and was kicked out of office [[UnPerson and erased from the history books]]. His term was replaced by UsefulNotes/WilliamHenryHarrison (the official 9th and thus why Trembley was 8th & 1/2), and the government claimed some waste shoveling village idiot was the founder of Gravity Falls. Oh, and Ben Franklin was secretly a woman.

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* The founder of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', according to the episode "Irrational Treasure", was Sir Lord Quentin Trembley III, the 8th & 1/2 president of the USA. He was [[CloudCuckoolander the most ridiculous president of the US]], and was kicked out of office [[UnPerson and erased from the history books]]. His term was replaced by UsefulNotes/WilliamHenryHarrison (the official 9th and thus why Trembley was 8th & 1/2), and the government claimed some waste shoveling village idiot was the founder of Gravity Falls. Oh, and Ben Franklin was secretly a woman.woman, and Abe's tall hat was used to comceal an extra arm on the top of his head.
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