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21st Mar '17 7:38:30 PM DustSnitch
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* ''ComicBook/TheAuthority'' never comes out and says it, but via some well-placed art, hints that figures like {{Jesus}}, Gandhi, and UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein were previous Shamans. In addition, Einstein was apparently involved in at least one cross-dimensional adventure with Jenny Sparks.

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* ''ComicBook/TheAuthority'' never comes out and says it, but via some well-placed art, hints that figures like {{Jesus}}, UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}, Gandhi, and UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein were previous Shamans. In addition, Einstein was apparently involved in at least one cross-dimensional adventure with Jenny Sparks.



* ''Literature/SigmaForce'' and ''Literature/TheOrderOfTheSanguines,'' both by James Rollins, use this trope repeatedly. UsefulNotes/MarcoPolo, UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson, UsefulNotes/RasputinTheMadMonk, and even {{Jesus}} have been featured as part of some kind of AncientConspiracy or other.

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* ''Literature/SigmaForce'' and ''Literature/TheOrderOfTheSanguines,'' both by James Rollins, use this trope repeatedly. UsefulNotes/MarcoPolo, UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson, UsefulNotes/RasputinTheMadMonk, and even {{Jesus}} UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} have been featured as part of some kind of AncientConspiracy or other.
12th Mar '17 6:44:24 PM AthenaBlue
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** ''The Kingmaker'' paints Creator/WilliamShakespeare in rather a different light, revealing that he was, later in life, actually Richard III. (He'd traveled back in time to goad the pragmatic and unpleasant-but-not-actually-villainous Richard into following the version of history outlined in his play, and ended up victim of a case of mistaken identity at Bosworth thanks to a broken arm and wounded leg. The Doctor sent the real Richard back to Stratford with some play outlines.) Richard, for his part, had many experiences with aliens, having been visited regularly since his youth by time-tourists, who routinely pestered him about whether or not he was going to kill his nephews, and ran away if he mentioned doctors. And the Princes in the Tower? Well, they were actually girls, and following his relocation, Richard/Shakespeare raised them as his daughters.

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** ''The Kingmaker'' [[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho081TheKingmaker "The Kingmaker"]] paints Creator/WilliamShakespeare in rather a different light, revealing that he was, later in life, actually Richard III. (He'd traveled back in time to goad the pragmatic and unpleasant-but-not-actually-villainous Richard into following the version of history outlined in his play, and ended up victim of a case of mistaken identity at Bosworth thanks to a broken arm and wounded leg. The Doctor sent the real Richard back to Stratford with some play outlines.) Richard, for his part, had many experiences with aliens, having been visited regularly since his youth by time-tourists, who routinely pestered him about whether or not he was going to kill his nephews, and ran away if he mentioned doctors. And the Princes in the Tower? Well, they were actually girls, and following his relocation, Richard/Shakespeare raised them as his daughters.



** In "Invaders from Mars", the Doctor uses Creator/OrsonWelles' radio version of ''Radio/TheWarOfTheWorlds'' to persuade some not-especially-bright aliens that Earth has ''already'' been invaded, by a force far superior to their own, making it a poor choice of breeding ground.

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** In [[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho028InvadersFromMars "Invaders from Mars", Mars"]], the Doctor uses Creator/OrsonWelles' radio version of ''Radio/TheWarOfTheWorlds'' to persuade some not-especially-bright aliens that Earth has ''already'' been invaded, by a force far superior to their own, making it a poor choice of breeding ground.



* In Creator/TanyaHuff's ''Literature/BloodBooks'' series, vampire Henry Fitzroy was ''the'' Henry Fitzroy, illegitimate son of UsefulNotes/HenryVIII.

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* In Creator/TanyaHuff's ''Literature/BloodBooks'' series, vampire Henry Fitzroy was is ''the'' Henry Fitzroy, illegitimate son of UsefulNotes/HenryVIII.



** The original TARDIS crew travel with Creator/MarcoPolo and meet Kublai Khan.
** First meets Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}} and inadvertently inspires him to burn down Rome.
** The Doctor's companion Vicki becomes [[Theatre/TroilusAndCressida Cressida]] after the end of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar.
** First and his companions also cross paths with UsefulNotes/RichardTheLionheart, Saladin, UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre, UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte, Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday.

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** The original TARDIS crew [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E4MarcoPolo travel with with]] Creator/MarcoPolo and meet Kublai Khan.
** First One meets Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}} and inadvertently [[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E4TheRomans inadvertently]] inspires him to burn down Rome.
** The Doctor's companion Vicki becomes [[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E3TheMythMakers becomes]] [[Theatre/TroilusAndCressida Cressida]] after the end of UsefulNotes/TheTrojanWar.
** First One and his companions also [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E8TheReignOfTerror cross paths with paths]] [[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E6TheCrusades with]] UsefulNotes/RichardTheLionheart, Saladin, UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre, UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E8TheGunfighters Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday.Holliday]].
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E5TheMassacre "The Massacre"]]: Steven encounters several of the people involved in the 16th century St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre.



** In "The King's Demons", the Fifth Doctor thwarted the Master's attempt to replace King John(whom the Doctor declared was a fairly decent king, as far as [[DarkAgeEurope the Dark Ages]] went) with an android in order to prevent the signing of the Magna Carta.
** "Timelash" reveals Creator/HGWells to have been inspired by a short trip with Six.
** "Silver Nemesis" revealed that the Doctor had launched the Nemesis weapon from the Earth inside a satellite to keep it out of the hands of his enemies, only to have that satellite's orbit bring it close to the Earth every 25 years, where the weapon's energy would adversely affect Earth history. The Doctor claimed that Nemesis may have influenced the start of World War II and the assassination of President Kennedy.
** "The Unquiet Dead" has Creator/CharlesDickens helping Nine fight alien ghosts.
** "Tooth and Claw" reveals that UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria faced a [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent werewolf]] (implied to be the source of the haemophilia widespread among European royalty in the late 19th century), and subsequently set up the Torchwood Institute.
** "The Girl in the Fireplace" followed the life of Mme. du Pompadour as she faced clockwork robots.
** "The Shakespeare Code" had Creator/{{Will|iamShakespeare}} involved with real witches.
** Ten actually ''caused'' Vesuvius to erupt in "The Fires of Pompeii," to keep aliens from turning all humans into stone.
** "The Unicorn and The Wasp" had a murder mystery surrounding Creator/AgathaChristie... involving a Giant Shapeshifting Space Wasp. (The trope is also {{lampshade|Hanging}}d in this episode: "That's like meeting Dickens at Christmas... with ghosts!" -- this was also a ShoutOut to the above mentioned episode "The Unquiet Dead".) The events of this episode led to Christie's 11-day disappearance in December of 1926.
** "Victory of the Daleks" sees Eleven helping old friend UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill with the Daleks.
** In "The Vampires of Venice" Eleven is momentarily worried about running into UsefulNotes/GiacomoCasanova, to whom he owes a chicken, until he realizes he is 140 years too early. Even funnier when you realise [[Creator/DavidTennant the previous Doctor's actor]] also played Series/{{Casanova}}.
** In "Vincent and the Doctor", Eleven and Amy team up with Creator/VincentVanGogh to track down a monster. The Doctor also namedrops Creator/MichelangeloBuonarroti and Creator/PabloPicasso.
** Eleven may have been directly responsible for the Watergate scandal, as he advised UsefulNotes/RichardNixon to 'tape everything' in an effort to defeat the Silence in "The Impossible Astronaut" and "Day of the Moon".
--->'''Nixon:''' "Dare I ask - will I be remembered?"
--->'''The Doctor:''' "Oh, Dicky. Tricky Dicky. They're ''never'' going to forget you! Say hello to David Frost for me."
** "Dinosaurs On A Spaceship": The Doctor helped AncientEgypt's Queen Nefertiti out with an attack by weapon-bearing giant alien locusts, and she in turn helped with the dinosaurs of the title.
** "The Power of Three" sees Amy accidentally get married to UsefulNotes/HenryVIII, and the Doctor comment that Fred Perry(a famous tennis player from the 1930s) would probably want his shorts back.
** In "Robot of Sherwood", the Twelfth Doctor meets Myth/RobinHood and his band of outlaws, and teams up with them to fight the Sheriff of Nottingham and his robot allies, while simultaneously trying to prove that Robin and company can't possibly be real. Clara apparently inspires them to call themselves the Merry Men.
** A future incarnation of the Doctor ends up as the Myth/{{Merlin}} of an alternate universe in "Battlefield".
** It has been hinted that the Doctor was rather friendly with UsefulNotes/ElizabethI, the so-called "[[UsefulNotes/ElizabethI Virgin Queen]]". It's confirmed when the Tenth Doctor uncovers a Zygon plan to replace her in "The Day of the Doctor".
** Speaking of the Doctor's love life, he was apparently engaged to Creator/MarilynMonroe before he ran off, and two of America's [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal founding fathers fancied him]].

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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS20E6TheKingsDemons "The King's Demons", Demons"]], the Fifth Doctor thwarted the Master's attempt to replace King John(whom the Doctor declared was a fairly decent king, as far as [[DarkAgeEurope the Dark Ages]] went) with an android in order to prevent the signing of the Magna Carta.
** "Timelash" [[Recap/DoctorWhoS22E5Timelash "Timelash"]] reveals Creator/HGWells to have been inspired by a short trip with Six.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E3SilverNemesis "Silver Nemesis" Nemesis"]] revealed that the Doctor had launched the Nemesis weapon from the Earth inside a satellite to keep it out of the hands of his enemies, only to have that satellite's orbit bring it close to the Earth every 25 years, where the weapon's energy would adversely affect Earth history. The Doctor claimed that Nemesis may have influenced the start of World War II and the assassination of President Kennedy.
** A future incarnation of the Doctor ends up as the Myth/{{Merlin}} of an alternate universe in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield "Battlefield"]].
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E3TheUnquietDead
"The Unquiet Dead" Dead"]] has Creator/CharlesDickens helping Nine fight alien ghosts.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E2ToothAndClaw "Tooth and Claw" Claw"]] reveals that UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria faced a [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent werewolf]] (implied to be the source of the haemophilia widespread among European royalty in the late 19th century), and subsequently set up the Torchwood Institute.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E4TheGirlInTheFireplace "The Girl in the Fireplace" Fireplace"]] followed the life of Mme. du Madame de Pompadour as she faced clockwork robots.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E1SmithAndJones "Smith and Jones"]]: The Doctor used to have a laser spanner, but it was stolen by Emmeline Pankhurst.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode
"The Shakespeare Code" Code"]] had Creator/{{Will|iamShakespeare}} involved with real witches.
*** Queen Elizabeth I turns up at the end, angry with the Doctor for something he hadn't done yet. What was it? [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime He married her]] [[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor and ran off]].
** Ten actually ''caused'' Vesuvius to erupt in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii "The Fires of Pompeii," Pompeii"]], to keep aliens from turning all humans into stone.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E7TheUnicornAndTheWasp "The Unicorn and The Wasp" the Wasp"]] had a murder mystery surrounding Creator/AgathaChristie...Creator/AgathaChristie . . . involving a Giant Shapeshifting Space Wasp. (The trope is also {{lampshade|Hanging}}d in this episode: "That's like meeting Dickens at Christmas...Christmas . . . with ghosts!" -- this was also a ShoutOut to the above mentioned episode "The Unquiet Dead".) The events of this episode led to Christie's 11-day disappearance in December of 1926.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E3VictoryOfTheDaleks "Victory of the Daleks" Daleks"]] sees Eleven helping old friend UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill with the Daleks.
Daleks. Churchill also has a habit of trying to steal the TARDIS keys off the Doctor.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E4TheTimeOfAngels "The Time of Angels"]]: The Doctor's apparently on Creator/VirginiaWoolf's bowling team.
** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E6TheVampiresOfVenice "The Vampires of Venice" Venice"]] Eleven is momentarily worried about running into UsefulNotes/GiacomoCasanova, to whom he owes a chicken, until he realizes he is 140 years too early. Even funnier when you realise [[Creator/DavidTennant the previous Doctor's actor]] also played Series/{{Casanova}}.
** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E10VincentAndTheDoctor "Vincent and the Doctor", Doctor"]], Eleven and Amy team up with Creator/VincentVanGogh to track down a monster. The Doctor also namedrops Creator/MichelangeloBuonarroti and Creator/PabloPicasso.
** Lampshaded in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E12ThePandoricaOpens "The Pandorica Opens"]].
-->'''River Song:''' I hate good wizards in fairy tales. They always turn out to be him.
** [[Recap/DoctorWho2010CSAChristmasCarol "A Christmas Carol"]]: The Doctor accidentally gets engaged to Marilyn Monroe.
** Eleven may have been directly responsible for the Watergate scandal, as he advised UsefulNotes/RichardNixon to 'tape everything' in an effort to defeat the Silence in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E1TheImpossibleAstronaut "The Impossible Astronaut" and Astronaut"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E2DayOfTheMoon "Day of the Moon".
Moon"]].
--->'''Nixon:''' "Dare I ask - will I be remembered?"
--->'''The
remembered?"\\
'''The
Doctor:''' "Oh, Dicky. Tricky Dicky. They're ''never'' going to forget you! Say hello hi to David Frost for me."
** "Dinosaurs On A Spaceship": *** The Doctor helped AncientEgypt's Queen Nefertiti out with an attack by weapon-bearing giant alien locusts, and she in turn helped with the dinosaurs of the title.
** "The Power of Three" sees Amy accidentally get married to UsefulNotes/HenryVIII, and the Doctor comment
also mentions that Fred Perry(a famous tennis player from the 1930s) would probably want his shorts back.
** In "Robot of Sherwood", the Twelfth Doctor meets Myth/RobinHood and his band of outlaws, and teams up with them to fight the Sheriff of Nottingham and his robot allies, while simultaneously trying to prove that Robin and company can't possibly be real. Clara apparently inspires them to call themselves the Merry Men.
** A future incarnation of the Doctor ends up as the Myth/{{Merlin}} of an alternate universe in "Battlefield".
** It has been hinted that the Doctor was rather friendly with UsefulNotes/ElizabethI, the so-called "[[UsefulNotes/ElizabethI Virgin Queen]]". It's confirmed when the Tenth Doctor uncovers a Zygon plan to replace her in "The Day of the Doctor".
** Speaking of the Doctor's love life, he was apparently engaged to Creator/MarilynMonroe before he ran off, and
two of America's [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal founding fathers fancied him]].him.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E8LetsKillHitler "Let's Kill Hitler"]]: Rory shoved UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler in a cupboard. After punching him.



** UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill, the Doctor's personal friend, seems to have a habit of trying to steal the TARDIS keys off the Time Lord.
** The Doctor's apparently on Creator/VirginiaWoolf's bowling team.
** The Doctor apparently used to have a laser spanner, but Emmeline Pankhurst stole it.
** The Doctor met UsefulNotes/MataHari in a Paris hotel room.
** Rory shoved UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler in a cupboard. After punching him.
** Steven encounters several of the people involved in the 16th century St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre.

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** UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill, the Doctor's personal friend, seems to have a habit of trying to steal the TARDIS keys off the Time Lord.
** The Doctor's apparently on Creator/VirginiaWoolf's bowling team.
** The Doctor apparently used to have a laser spanner, but Emmeline Pankhurst stole it.
**
[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33PrequelPondLife "Pond Life"]]: The Doctor met UsefulNotes/MataHari in a Paris hotel room.
** Rory shoved UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E2DinosaursOnASpaceship "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship"]]: The Doctor helped AncientEgypt's Queen Nefertiti out with an attack by weapon-bearing giant alien locusts, and she in a cupboard. After punching him.
** Steven encounters several
turn helped with the dinosaurs of the people involved in title. And it turns out the 16th century St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre.reason she disappeared from the records fourteen years into her husband's reign is because she ran off with John Riddell, a big-game hunter from 1902.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E4ThePowerOfThree "The Power of Three"]] sees Amy accidentally get married to UsefulNotes/HenryVIII, and the Doctor comment that Fred Perry (a famous tennis player from the 1930s) would probably want his shorts back.
** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E3RobotOfSherwood "Robot of Sherwood"]], the Twelfth Doctor meets Myth/RobinHood and his band of outlaws, and teams up with them to fight the Sheriff of Nottingham and his robot allies, while simultaneously trying to prove that Robin and company can't possibly be real. Clara apparently inspires them to call themselves the Merry Men.



** Lampshaded in "The Pandorica Opens".
-->'''River Song:''' I hate good wizards in fairy tales. They always turn out to be him.
** Clara becomes good friends with Jane Austen and makes comments implying the friendship [[LesYay is also a bit more physical]].

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** Lampshaded in "The Pandorica Opens".
-->'''River Song:''' I hate good wizards in fairy tales. They always turn out to be him.
** Clara becomes [[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E1TheMagiciansApprentice good friends friends]] with Jane Austen and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E10FaceTheRaven makes comments comments]] implying the friendship [[LesYay is also a bit more physical]].
7th Mar '17 12:27:21 PM ChaoticNovelist
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*''Film/AssassinsCreed2016'': The main historical figure behind the Spanish Inquisition, Tomás de Torquemada, also happens to be a Templar seeking to eradicate Assassins in Spain and trying to get his hands on an Apple of Eden.
3rd Mar '17 12:50:48 PM Xtifr
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* Chapter 36 of the ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' fanfic ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6813246/1/Persona_4_Welcome_to_Tokyo_Act_II_End Welcome to Tokyo]]'' implies that UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat, Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga, UsefulNotes/JoanOfArc, and UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy may have been Wild Cards, much like the main characters of the Persona games.

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* Chapter 36 of the ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' fanfic ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6813246/1/Persona_4_Welcome_to_Tokyo_Act_II_End Welcome to Tokyo]]'' implies that UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat, Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga, UsefulNotes/JoanOfArc, and UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy may have been Wild Cards, much like the main characters of the Persona games.
26th Feb '17 4:44:37 PM nombretomado
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** LawrenceOfArabia and TheMole Kim Philby in ''Literature/{{Declare}}''.

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** LawrenceOfArabia Film/LawrenceOfArabia and TheMole Kim Philby in ''Literature/{{Declare}}''.
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** Davey Crocket, Sacajawea, Samuel Wilson, and Paul Jennings were all members of Agency 355, a [[AncientTradition secret government division]] that President Washington established to fight the supernatural.
** The Burning of Washington during the War of 1812 was the result of a MysticalPlague connected to a Djinn that caused the afflicted to combust. And the "Storm that Saved Washington" was conjured by the above quartet to both quell the fire and so they could use the lightning to fight the Djinn.
15th Feb '17 2:12:43 AM LondonKdS
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* ''ComicBook/TheWickedAndTheDivine'' has implied that, in its universe, a number of equivalents of historical celebrities in our universe were Pantheon members. An early issue suggested that Creator/LordByron was an incarnation of Lucifer, and the "1831" one-shot confirms that just about every well-known figure of the Romantic movement was part of that era's Pantheon.

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* ''ComicBook/TheWickedAndTheDivine'' has implied that, in its universe, a number of equivalents of historical celebrities in our universe were Pantheon members. An early issue suggested that Creator/LordByron was an incarnation of Lucifer, and the "1831" one-shot confirms that just about every well-known figure of the Romantic movement was part of that era's Pantheon. (Creator/KieronGillen [[WordOfGod insists]], though, that the "1831" characters are *not* intended to actually "be" the historical writers, but different people who played similar roles in that fictional universe.)
6th Feb '17 10:38:25 AM valozzy
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* In the Literature/NosePickers series by Creator/GordonKorman, one of the titular aliens remarks that Creator/{{Shakespeare}} and Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio are aliens. When asked, he responds, "Could any Earthling write/act that well?" Other such aliens included Creator/StevenSpielberg, UsefulNotes/MichaelJordan, Mark [=McGwire=] and Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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* In ''Film/{{Paul}}'', Paul's advanced knowledge appears to negate Christian beliefs, while his powers, including healing and resurrection, appear similar to those in the Biblical stories, implying extraterrestrial visitors utilized such abilities in the past, that were then recorded as miracles by witnesses, being the basis of the Biblical stories that became religious beliefs.
* In ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'', the opening scene shows around ten Engineers in robes, like a group of disciples talking to one figure. In an interview, Ridley Scott reveals an Engineer appeared in Earth's past and was crucified by humans, inspiring the myths of Jesus. The sequel may explore this concept further.
25th Jan '17 7:28:26 PM DPsycho
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' suggests that Creator/OscarWilde, UsefulNotes/AleisterCrowley, Samuel "Creator/MarkTwain" Clemens, Eugene Sandow & UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla (along with Fantomas and Dr Venture's ancestor) were members of a [[Comicbook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen League of Extraordinary Gentlemen]]-esque Guild that was meant to safeguard and research an artifact made by the greatest minds of the past (from Archimedes to Leonardo). The fracturing of this guild would give birth to the Guild Of Calamitous Intent (a named coined by Wilde), who would become a WeirdTradeUnion for {{Supervillain}}s.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' suggests that Creator/OscarWilde, UsefulNotes/AleisterCrowley, Samuel "Creator/MarkTwain" Clemens, Eugene Sandow & UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla (along with Fantomas and Dr Venture's ancestor) were members of a [[Comicbook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen League of Extraordinary Gentlemen]]-esque Guild that was meant to safeguard and research an artifact made by the greatest minds of the past (from Archimedes to Leonardo). The fracturing of this guild would give birth to the Guild Of Calamitous Intent (a named name coined by Wilde), who which would become a WeirdTradeUnion for {{Supervillain}}s.
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