History Main / BeenThereShapedHistory

18th Oct '16 8:11:59 AM siberia82
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* ''Film/XMen'':

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* ''Film/XMen'':''Film/XMenFilmSeries'':
16th Oct '16 8:42:13 AM maxwellsilver
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Note that, unless the work is set in an AlternateHistory, the presence of the characters [[ReedRichardsIsUseless will not change the event itself]], at least in its most important aspects. For example, [[WeirdHistoricalWar you can add superheroes, supervillains, robots, zombies, aliens, vampires, alien vampires and whatnot to WWII]], but the Holocaust, the invasion of Poland, the invasion of France, Pearl Harbor, the invasion of Normandy, and the defeats of Germany and Japan will still take place and have the same outcomes. And of course, [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct nobody can kill Hitler before 1945]].

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Note that, unless the work is set in an AlternateHistory, the presence of the characters [[ReedRichardsIsUseless will not change the event itself]], itself, at least in its most important aspects. For example, [[WeirdHistoricalWar you can add superheroes, supervillains, robots, zombies, aliens, vampires, alien vampires and whatnot to WWII]], WWII, but the Holocaust, the invasion of Poland, the invasion of France, Pearl Harbor, the invasion of Normandy, and the defeats of Germany and Japan will still take place and have the same outcomes. And of course, [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct nobody can kill Hitler before 1945]].1945.



* When the new, so-called Iron Horse decided to run wild, Advertising/JohnJameson [[BigDamnHeroes casually finished his breakfast, before taking matters into his own hands]]. After all, he was quite fond of its [[NotDistractedByTheSexy "precious cargo"]]. Calmly, [[ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime he relieved the engineer]], [[DidntThinkThisThrough a decision he would instantly regret]]. Selflessly, he rescued his whiskey. And for good measure, he set the Iron Horse free to roam greener pastures--coincidentally saving all of Ireland from the Prussian Incursion of 1807. Which is the reason nobody has ever heard of the Prussian Incursion of 1807.

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* When the new, so-called Iron Horse decided to run wild, Advertising/JohnJameson [[BigDamnHeroes casually finished his breakfast, before taking matters into his own hands]]. hands. After all, he was quite fond of its [[NotDistractedByTheSexy "precious cargo"]]. cargo". Calmly, [[ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime he relieved the engineer]], [[DidntThinkThisThrough engineer, a decision he would instantly regret]].regret. Selflessly, he rescued his whiskey. And for good measure, he set the Iron Horse free to roam greener pastures--coincidentally saving all of Ireland from the Prussian Incursion of 1807. Which is the reason nobody has ever heard of the Prussian Incursion of 1807.
9th Oct '16 8:30:51 PM Andyroid
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* According to ''WesternAnimation/DuckTalesTheMovieTreasureOfTheLostLamp'', [[EvilSorcerer Merlock]] was actually responsible for the destruction of both Atlantis and Pompeii.
-->'''Genie:''' Mount Vesuvius would never have blown its top if Merlock hadn't blown ''his''!
27th Sep '16 7:38:56 PM DustSnitch
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** Connor of ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'' does this as well, as he works with [[spoiler:UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington, Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and Israel Putnam]] during this game.
*** An attempt at a comprehensive list: [[spoiler:He attempts to stop the Boston Massacre and is initially framed for starting it, participates in the Boston Tea Party, accompanies Paul Revere on his midnight ride, is present at the battles of Concord (where he personally commands the Colonists at the battle of the Old North Bridge), Lexington, and Bunker Hill (he assassinates the British commander, John Pitcairn), stops the Templars from killing George Washington, causes the death of the Admiral of the Continental Navy, causes the shelling of New York, ''and'' kills Charles Lee; in the [=PS3=]/PC-exclusive Benedict Arnold missions he's also the man responsible for uncovering the plot to sell out West Point, then personally turns back an attempted British invasion of West Point.]]

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** Connor of ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'' does this as well, as he works with [[spoiler:UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington, UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington, Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and Israel Putnam]] Putnam during this game.
*** An attempt at a comprehensive list: [[spoiler:He He attempts to stop the Boston Massacre and is initially framed for starting it, participates in the Boston Tea Party, accompanies Paul Revere on his midnight ride, is present at the battles of Concord (where he personally commands the Colonists at the battle of the Old North Bridge), Lexington, and Bunker Hill (he assassinates the British commander, John Pitcairn), stops the Templars from killing George Washington, causes the death of the Admiral of the Continental Navy, causes the shelling of New York, ''and'' kills [[spoiler:kills Charles Lee; Lee]]; in the [=PS3=]/PC-exclusive Benedict Arnold missions he's also the man responsible for uncovering the plot to sell out West Point, then personally turns back an attempted British invasion of West Point.]]
19th Sep '16 7:27:49 AM Morgenthaler
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*** [[WordOfGod According to the lead writer]] for ''Brotherhood'', when Machiavelli mentioned that he intended to write a book about Ezio one day, that book would ironically be ''ThePrince''.

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*** [[WordOfGod According to the lead writer]] for ''Brotherhood'', when Machiavelli mentioned that he intended to write a book about Ezio one day, that book would ironically be ''ThePrince''.''Literature/ThePrince''.
13th Sep '16 11:20:32 PM PaulA
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* ''Ender's Shadow'' retells ''Literature/EndersGame'' from the perspective of Bean, who is revealed to have been [[TheManBehindTheMan responsible for a lot of Ender's successes]], making him this trope in a fictional setting. (And provoking some people to consider him a CanonSue.)
** Which can be a little jarring to some readers, as Bean's dialogue and behaviour is [[StylisticSuck faithful]] to the [[CharacterCheck original book published 14 years and dozens of novels by Card earlier]] until the *moment* Bean is out of Ender's eyeshot/earshot, at which point Bean returns to being [[CharacterizationMarchesOn eloquent, intelligent, and nuanced]]. Maybe he just gets [[FridgeLogic flustered around his hero]].

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* ''Ender's Shadow'' ''Literature/EndersShadow'' retells ''Literature/EndersGame'' from the perspective of Bean, who is revealed to have been [[TheManBehindTheMan responsible for a lot of Ender's successes]], making him this trope in a fictional setting. (And provoking some people to consider him a CanonSue.)
** Which can be a little jarring to some readers, as Bean's dialogue and behaviour is [[StylisticSuck faithful]] to the [[CharacterCheck original book published 14 years and dozens of novels by Card earlier]] until the *moment* Bean is out of Ender's eyeshot/earshot, at which point Bean returns to being [[CharacterizationMarchesOn eloquent, intelligent, and nuanced]]. Maybe he just gets [[FridgeLogic flustered around his hero]].
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12th Sep '16 6:38:42 PM H2SO4
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* Mixed with a good helping of AnachronismStew in ''WesternAnimation/IceAge4ContinentalDrift'', where Scrat is shown to have caused the breakup of Pangaea. Yes, [[CriticalResearchFailure during the Ice Age.]] An even more anachronistic example occurs in ''WesternAnimation/IceAge5CollisionCourse'', where Scrat is revealed to have accidentally ''created the Solar System'' during the Ice Age.

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* Mixed with a good helping of AnachronismStew in ''WesternAnimation/IceAge4ContinentalDrift'', where Scrat is shown to have caused the breakup of Pangaea. Yes, [[CriticalResearchFailure during the Ice Age.]] An even more anachronistic example occurs in ''WesternAnimation/IceAge5CollisionCourse'', where Scrat is revealed to have accidentally ''created the Solar System'' during the Ice Age.Age, which defies logic on many levels.
2nd Sep '16 12:04:17 PM TVRulezAgain
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** Uncle Scrooge once boasted about his wrestling skills (to Roosevelt, while they were fighting) by mentioning that he once met Sitting Bull. Of course, back then he was known as "Standing Bull."

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** Uncle Scrooge once boasted about his wrestling skills (to Roosevelt, while they were fighting) by mentioning that he once met Sitting Bull. Of course, back Back then he was known as "Standing Bull."



* According to the ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' prequel, ''WesternAnimation/{{Minions}}'', the Minions have been around for millenia, helping out tyrants, would-be world conquerors, and other "bad guys" since the dawn of human history (and even before that, when they tag along with a ''TyrannosaurusRex''. They're seen building the Great Pyramids and fighting with Napoleon in his Russian campaign; given how badly the latter went in RealLife, one can assume the Minions were [[SurroundedByIdiots even more incompetent]] before they met Gru.

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* According to the ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' prequel, ''WesternAnimation/{{Minions}}'', the Minions have been around for millenia, helping out tyrants, would-be world conquerors, and other "bad guys" since the dawn of human history (and even before that, when they tag along with a ''TyrannosaurusRex''. They're seen building the Great Pyramids and fighting with Napoleon in his Russian campaign; given how badly the latter went in RealLife, one can assume the Minions were [[SurroundedByIdiots even more incompetent]] before they met Gru.



* ''Film/BatmanBegins'': Ra's al Ghul reveals to Bruce that the League of Shadows are responsible for, among other things, the Sack of Rome, the Black Plague, the Great Fire of London, and, of course, the WretchedHive of a [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack City]] that Gotham has become.

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* ''Film/BatmanBegins'': Ra's al Ghul reveals to Bruce that the League of Shadows are responsible for, among other things, the Sack of Rome, the Black Plague, the Great Fire of London, and, of course, and the WretchedHive of a [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack City]] that Gotham has become.



* In the low-budget ''Film/{{Captain America|1990}}'' movie from the 90's, the Comicbook/RedSkull is said to have had ties to the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, and Martin Luther King, Jr. WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaCritic found that last one especially distasteful.

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* In the low-budget ''Film/{{Captain America|1990}}'' movie from the 90's, the Comicbook/RedSkull is said to have had ties to the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, and Martin Luther King, Jr. WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaCritic WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic found that last one especially distasteful.



* In Creator/TomHolt's ''Literature/FlyingDutch'', the immortal alchemist Montalban turns out to secretly be responsible for pretty much all of modern science and technology--all of which he developed in an attempt to cure the horrific stench that was an unfortunate side-effect of his immortality potion.

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* In Creator/TomHolt's ''Literature/FlyingDutch'', the immortal alchemist Montalban turns out to secretly be responsible for pretty much all of modern science and technology--all of which he developed in an attempt to cure the horrific stench that was an unfortunate side-effect of his immortality potion.



* ''Literature/PerryRhodan'' has Atlan, of course. Even ''with'' some hibernation periods, ten thousand years stuck on Earth make for a fair few opportunities for somebody who was already a certified badass before ever coming here to leave a mark. Among other things he supplied the poison that killed Attila the Hun, and he knew and crossed at least figurative swords with Nostradamus -- who after his eventual reappearance in more modern times during the Swarm arc likewise [[BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy turns out to be more than he seemed at the time]]. Oh, and we mustn't forget [[{{Atlantis}} the original lost Arkonide colony on Earth that was named after him]]...

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* ''Literature/PerryRhodan'' has Atlan, of course.Atlan. Even ''with'' some hibernation periods, ten thousand years stuck on Earth make for a fair few opportunities for somebody who was already a certified badass before ever coming here to leave a mark. Among other things he supplied the poison that killed Attila the Hun, and he knew and crossed at least figurative swords with Nostradamus -- who after his eventual reappearance in more modern times during the Swarm arc likewise [[BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy turns out to be more than he seemed at the time]]. Oh, and we mustn't forget [[{{Atlantis}} the original lost Arkonide colony on Earth that was named after him]]...



* ''Literature/TheLastAmericanVampire'': If Henry's narration is to be believed, he and various associates played significant behind-the-scenes roles in just about every major event from 1865 forward, except for the Titanic. He claims to be the one who blew up the Hindenburg.

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* ''Literature/TheLastAmericanVampire'': If Henry's narration is to be believed, he and various associates played significant behind-the-scenes roles in just about every major event from 1865 forward, except for the Titanic. He claims to be the one who blew up the Hindenburg.



** Most notably, Pompeii was the result of an Immortal being killed on sacred ground. There's a reason why all Immortals respect sacred ground.

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** Most notably, Pompeii was the result of an Immortal being killed on sacred ground. There's a reason why all Immortals respect sacred ground.



* Dr. Helen Magnus from ''Series/{{Sanctuary}}'' is 160 years old, has lived through the entire 20th century (give or take a few decades in Victorian London), and has had various run-ins with various historical figures including most U.S. Presidents and world leaders. The last time she was shipwrecked was "April, 1912." The opening theme has shown photographs of her with Albert Einstein, Amelia Earhart and Gandhi. She and a couple of school chums were directly responsible for the success of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the D-Day invasion at Normandy]] - and the school chums in question were UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla and James Watson (Sherlock Holmes himself). Oh, and her fiance was Jack the Ripper.

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* Dr. Helen Magnus from ''Series/{{Sanctuary}}'' is 160 years old, has lived through the entire 20th century (give or take a few decades in Victorian London), and has had various run-ins with various historical figures including most U.S. Presidents and world leaders. The last time she was shipwrecked was "April, 1912." The opening theme has shown photographs of her with Albert Einstein, Amelia Earhart and Gandhi. She and a couple of school chums were directly responsible for the success of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the D-Day invasion at Normandy]] - and the school chums in question were UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla and James Watson (Sherlock Holmes himself). Oh, and her fiance was Jack the Ripper.



** All in all, the Supernatural generally moves along with human developments rather then setting them off...which makes a good deal of sense when you think about it, there are more mortals then Supernaturals, and most Supers are too busy handling their own stuff to really mess around with human society too much. Throw in the {{Masquerade}}, Veil, and the general "Do NOT let the [[{{Muggle}} normals]] know what's REALLY going on" approach the varying splats take, minor influence and the occasional nudge is about all the Supernatural does to influence the wider world...Of course, there are exceptions, such as [[TheTunguskaEvent Tunguska]] being caused by SOMETHING involving [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated the Quasmalilim]], and Dracula having been a very powerful Kindred, but these are exceptions rather then the general rule of thumb.

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** All in all, the Supernatural generally moves along with human developments rather then setting them off...which makes a good deal of sense when you think about it, there are more mortals then Supernaturals, and most Supers are too busy handling their own stuff to really mess around with human society too much. Throw in the {{Masquerade}}, Veil, and the general "Do NOT let the [[{{Muggle}} normals]] know what's REALLY going on" approach the varying splats take, minor influence and the occasional nudge is about all the Supernatural does to influence the wider world...Of course, there are exceptions, such as [[TheTunguskaEvent Tunguska]] being caused by SOMETHING involving [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated the Quasmalilim]], and Dracula having been a very powerful Kindred, but these are exceptions rather then the general rule of thumb.



*** ''Literature/ShadowsOfTheEmpire'' 's story starts around the same time as ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. As such, the protagonist Dash Rendar took part in the Battle of Hoth; this was only mentioned in the novel, but an actual level in the game. Notably, it was the first time a ''Star Wars'' game allowed the player to take part in a movie battle like it (excluding the Death Star trench run from ''Film/ANewHope''), and nearly every classic-trilogy ''Star Wars'' game since has had a Hoth level if the developers could find an excuse to add one. One problem, however, is that the second level starts with Dash witnessing the ''Millenium Falcon'''s escape from the base just before snowtroopers pour in - and yet Dash somehow manages to ''completely miss'' encountering Darth Vader, who also saw the ''Falcon'' fly off.

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*** ''Literature/ShadowsOfTheEmpire'' 's story starts around the same time as ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. As such, the protagonist Dash Rendar took part in the Battle of Hoth; this was only mentioned in the novel, but an actual level in the game. Notably, it It was the first time a ''Star Wars'' game allowed the player to take part in a movie battle like it (excluding the Death Star trench run from ''Film/ANewHope''), and nearly every classic-trilogy ''Star Wars'' game since has had a Hoth level if the developers could find an excuse to add one. One problem, however, is that the second level starts with Dash witnessing the ''Millenium Falcon'''s escape from the base just before snowtroopers pour in - and yet Dash somehow manages to ''completely miss'' encountering Darth Vader, who also saw the ''Falcon'' fly off.



* The protagonist of ''VideoGame/CallOfJuarezGunslinger'' claims to have fought pretty much every single legendary outlaw in TheWildWest. He even claims to have had a gun fight with Jesse James (once someone brings up Bob Ford, he immediately claims to have "wounded him" [[GameplayAndStorySegregation even if you managed to make him shoot James in the head]]) and another one with Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (who, whaddya know, really DID escape the [[BolivianArmyEnding Bolivian Army]])...''at the same time''. [[UnreliableNarrator Naturally, it's heavily implied he's making A LOT of this up]].

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* The protagonist of ''VideoGame/CallOfJuarezGunslinger'' claims to have fought pretty much every single legendary outlaw in TheWildWest. He even claims to have had a gun fight with Jesse James (once someone brings up Bob Ford, he immediately claims to have "wounded him" [[GameplayAndStorySegregation even if you managed to make him shoot James in the head]]) and another one with Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (who, whaddya know, really DID escape the [[BolivianArmyEnding Bolivian Army]])...''at the same time''. [[UnreliableNarrator Naturally, it's heavily implied he's making A LOT of this up]].
23rd Aug '16 11:52:04 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/QuantumLeap'' often had Sam Beckett being responsible for a great many things while in the guise of various people. Creator Donald Bellisario referred to these as "kisses with history," giving Sam a chance to slyly affect the world more than just what the main plot required. Among the many things that Sam is responsible for are teaching The Twist to Chubby Checker, performing the [[StableTimeLoop Heimlich Maneuver on Dr. Heimlich]], giving a young Creator/StephenKing ideas for some [[Literature/{{Christine}} scary]] [[Literature/{{Carrie}} stories]], encouraging BuddyHolly to continue with music (even helping him write "Peggy Sue" by trying to catch a pig), and teaching the Moon Walk to a young Music/MichaelJackson.

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* ''Series/QuantumLeap'' often had Sam Beckett being responsible for a great many things while in the guise of various people. Creator Donald Bellisario referred to these as "kisses with history," giving Sam a chance to slyly affect the world more than just what the main plot required. Among the many things that Sam is responsible for are teaching The Twist to Chubby Checker, performing the [[StableTimeLoop Heimlich Maneuver on Dr. Heimlich]], giving a young Creator/StephenKing ideas for some [[Literature/{{Christine}} scary]] [[Literature/{{Carrie}} stories]], encouraging BuddyHolly Music/BuddyHolly to continue with music (even helping him write "Peggy Sue" by trying to catch a pig), and teaching the Moon Walk to a young Music/MichaelJackson.
23rd Aug '16 12:21:45 PM bigfatcarp93
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Supertrope to HistoricalRapSheet. Almost always the source of a HistoricalInJoke. See SeeminglyProfoundFool, MistakenForSpecialGuest. When done poorly or overbearingly, can be a sign of a CanonSue. Contrast BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy where they simply use the real person.

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Supertrope to HistoricalRapSheet. Almost always the source of a HistoricalInJoke. See SeeminglyProfoundFool, MistakenForSpecialGuest. When done poorly or overbearingly, can be a sign of a CanonSue. Contrast BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy where they simply use the real person.
person. Can often cross over with NoodleIncident.
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