History Main / BannedFromArgo

* PersonaNonGrata: John's Dad is banned from the Cirque du Soleil for [[NoodleIncident unspecified reasons]].

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->''"When we pulled into Argo Port in need of R&R,\\
The crew set out investigating every joint and bar.\\
We had high expectations of their hospitality,\\
But found too late it wasn't geared for spacers such as we!\\
And we're banned from Argo, everyone\\
Banned from Argo just for having a little fun\\
We took a jolly shore leave there for just three days or four\\
But Argo doesn't want us anymore ..."''
-->-- Leslie Fish & the Dehorn Crew, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q50UBIWXvfc "Banned from Argo"]]

You, possibly along with your [[TrueCompanions merry band of travelers]], have found a nice place to hang out. Maybe it's a nice bar, a seaside town, or a resort planet. But then...things happened. You may not have ''meant'' for bad stuff to go down, but sometimes events are beyond our control. There might have been [[GoneSwimmingClothesStolen nudity]], [[WeComeInPeaceShootToKill violence]], [[StuffBlowingUp stuff]] [[ImpressivePyrotechnics blowing]] [[ANuclearError up]], [[IntoxicationEnsues certain]] [[EverybodyMustGetStoned substances]] may have been imbibed/smoked, and whoops, you just started a revolution. Possibly, your name is [[MikeNelsonDestroyerOfWorlds Mike Nelson]], in which case, you're probably screwed.

Whatever happened, when it's all over, you're not allowed back. '''EVER'''. Nor is anyone else on your crew.

Trope name is taken from the definitive [[FilkSong filk]] by Leslie Fish, regarding the illustrious crew of the U.S.S. Enterprise and why they're not allowed back on Argo. May or may not be considered a NoodleIncident. The redheaded stepchild of YouCantGoHomeAgain.

Does not have anything to do with the CoolBoat from the ClassicalMythology. See also HollywoodRestrainingOrder. May or may not be related to BannedInChina.
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[[folder: Anime and Manga]]
* Has happened to the ''DirtyPair'' on at least two occasions. They go off on leave to some distant resort with plans to lounge on the beach, but while they're there [[BusmansHoliday they inevitably get drawn into some sort of illicit intrigue]] and wind up causing massive destruction in their attempts to stop it.
** Other times, this can't happen as the place that would've banned them ''no longer exists''.
* Something like this happened to the original ''{{Macross}}''. A freak accident causes them to be banned from [[strike:Utah]] [[strike:the USA]] ''the Earth''. This is after they spend several episodes getting back to Earth ''[[ShootTheShaggyDog through the defense of the Zentraedi]]''.
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[[folder: ComicBooks]]
* Recently in ''KnightsOfTheDinnerTable'', Nitro Ferguson got banned from [=GaryCon=] after his D-Day game ran amok even more spectacularly than games in [=KoDT=] usually do.
* Happens far too often to {{LARP}} goth Walden Woods in ''DorkTower''; ''something'' inevitably gets them banned from their latest gathering spot.
-->'''Walden:''' "Great Clans of Mud Bay, I have called this gathering in the Poochy's Last Stand pet cemetery for one reason!"
-->'''Goth:''' "Because Beef-A-Roo won't let us gather there anymore?"
-->'''Walden:''' "APART FROM THAT!"
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[[folder: FanFic]]
* In ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5739975/1/A_Trail_a_Mile_Wide A Trail a Mile Wide]]'', the crew of the [[MassEffect SSV Normandy]] [[MassEffect2 SR2]] find themselves banned from a colony after [[WhatDidIDoLastNight a truly epic shore leave]]. The story itself heavily homages the Trope Naming song.
* In the ''{{Chuck}}'' story ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5756619/1/What_Fates_Impose What Fates Impose]]'', Sarah and Bryce mention that they've been banned from Paraguay for an incident involving a donkey.
* In the [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6341291/1/Harveste Harveste]] series, the Addamses are banned from Haiti and Indonesia. Gomez has been banned from Africa for an undetermined amount of time, but as of 1995, has at least ten years left on the ban. Grandmama is accepted as a witch doctor in five contries and banned from the rest of the world.
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[[folder: {{Film}}]]
* After the massive battle that spanned half of Paris in ''[=~GI Joe: The Rise of Cobra~=]'', the Joes are banned from [[CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkeys France]]. Forever.
* ''OBrotherWhereArtThou?'': Ulysses should have stayed out of the Woolworths.
** Is that ''all'' Woolworths, or just that particular one?
* In ''Film/TheParty'', the protagonist is supposed to be blacklisted from Hollywood after accidentally blowing up an entire movie set. Instead, his name is unknowingly put on the invitation list for an A-list Hollywood party.
* ''Film/RainMan'': Charlie and Raymond get kicked out of the casino for 'counting cards', and are warned not to try this at other casinos either because the word is out about them.
* Obliquely used in ''ReturnOfTheLivingDead'': "No, we can't: the cops said they'd ''shoot'' us if we go back to the park."
* Subversion in ''LittleMissSunshine''; after the fiasco at the titular beauty pageant, the family is told that the pageant will not press charges, under the condition that Olive never enter another 'little miss' pageant in the state of California, ever again. Subverted in that the family's reaction to the news amounted to "That's fine with us!".
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[[folder: LiveActionTV]]
* In an episode of ''{{Entourage}}'', Johnny Drama is banned forever from the Playboy Mansion, then he gets readmitted and gets someone else banned from the Playboy Mansion.
* In the ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode "Tooth and Claw", the Doctor and Rose are banned from Great Britain by [[QueenVicky Queen Victoria]]. It doesn't stick.
* On ''{{Friends}}'', Ross recounts how he and his first wife Carol got banned from Disneyland for having sex behind the animatronic children on "It's a Small World".
* A popular bit of {{fanon}} is that after the events of "Upgrades," ''[[StargateSG1 SG-1]]'' are banned from O'Malley's for the bar fight they started under the influence of AppliedPhlebotinum armbands.
* As "Fold Equity" tells us, [[LieToMe Cal Lightman]] has been banned from the entire city of Las Vegas after hustling one too many people at poker and [[NoodleIncident something involving casino owner Ellis's wife]].
* Newark, NJ mayor Cory Booker put Conan O'Brien on the "No Fly List" after Conan made a disparaging joke about his city. Conan soon after banned Cory from Burbank Airport, to which Cory retaliated by banning Conan from the entire state of New Jersey, as well as Newark's sister cities around the world. Conan subsequently banned Cory from California. Of course, as later revealed, this was all staged.
* The humorous introductions given for [[TopGear The Stig]] often mention him being banned from some location or event.
* There are a handful of hosts of ''SaturdayNightLive'' who have caused so much trouble backstage (or on the show) that they can never host SNL again. Who are they, you ask? Well...
** Louise Lasser: Hosted the penultimate episode of Season 1 (1975-76). Michaels has gone on record in saying that Lasser was incoherent during her performance and wouldn't appear in any sketches unless she was by herself or with Chevy Chase.
** Chevy Chase: Speaking of which, he's banned from hosting (after doing so nine times, the record for a former cast member) due to his Jerk Ass attitude toward the writers and cast members. He has made cameos in a few episodes, but hasn't hosted since Season 22 (1996-97).
** Steven Seagal: Hosted the April 20, 1991 episode, and was banned soon afterwards because he had difficulty working with the cast and crew. This was referenced in a later episode (September 26, 1992) featuring Nicholas Cage, where Lorne Michaels responds to Cage's insistence that his monologue made him look like "the biggest jerk on the show" with the response "No, no. That would be Steven Seagal."
** Martin Lawrence: Hosted the episode that came right after the infamous Alec Baldwin-hosted show with the "Canteen Boy Goes Camping" sketch (where Canteen Boy (Adam Sandler) is [[spoiler: molested by his scoutmaster]]) in 1994 (Season 19), and got himself banned when he launched into a monologue about the decline in women's hygiene. All reruns have cut off Martin's monologue and replaced it with cards that explain why this can never air on TV again.
** Adrien Brody: Hosted in Season 28 (2002-03) and got himself banned after introducing musical guest Sean Paul in a rude boy Jamaican get-up and ad-libbing. There wasn't any profanity uttered; it was just that Lorne utterly hates unscripted performances. Considering the rest of Season 28, this was actually considered a highlight.
** Musical guest Sinead O'Connor was banned after ripping up a picture of the Pope and calling him 'the true enemy' after her second song (the segment was banned as well).
* In the first season of ''{{Heroes}}'', Ando and Hiro are banned from all of Mr. Linderman's casinos after they abuse Hiro's powers to cheat at poker. This becomes a problem later in the series, when they need to get back into one of the casinos in order to steal an ancient {{samurai}} sword in Mr. Linderman's collection.
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[[folder: {{Literature}}]]
* RobertRankin's ''{{Brentford Trilogy}}'' books frequently involve intrepid protagonists Jim Pooley and John Omally being banned from their favourite pub The Flying Swan by the mercurial part-time barman, Neville. The ban never lasts long, though.
* Skeeve is banned from Perv at the end of ''[[MythAdventures Myth-Nomers and Im-Pervections]]''.
** Long before that, in the very first book of the series, ''Another Fine Myth'', it's revealed that Frumple is banned from Deva.
* In the ''{{Gor}}'' series, Tarl Cabot was banned from returning to the city-state of Ar, but that didn't stop him from doing so.
* In RASalvatore's novel ''Road of the Patriarch'' Jarlaxle and Artemis end up banned for life from the Bloodstone Lands. Jarlaxle points out that Elves live a long time and he'll probably outlive the ban. Artemis is not comforted by this, being a human, with the attendant shorter life span.
* Hrolf the Unruly, the captain of Elfmaid from ''[[ForgottenRealms Starlight And Shadows]]'' trilogy by Elaine Cunningham got "a taste for recreational mayhem", which earned him ban from many ports and even imprisonment and confiscation in [[WretchedHive Skullport]], which is an achievement in itself. Where he was found under arrest, roaring a song:
--> Come ashore with the lads of the Elfmaid, my friend.
--> We're awash on an ocean of ale!
--> Some taverns to plunder, some guards to sunder,
--> And then, a short rest in the jail!
* In ''Discworld/SoulMusic'', The Band With Rocks In is banished from every city they visit on their Sto Plains tour, on pain of pain and/or being buried alive.
** [[BlatantLies The Nac Mac Feegle was banished for rebelling against the tyranny of the]] [[TheFairFolk Fairy Queen]], [[ViolentGlaswegian and NOT for being]] [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial completely smashed at four in the afternoon.]] [[OhCrap They'll fight any lying scunner who says otherwise.]]
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[[folder: {{Music}}]]
* In the late 80s and early 90s, various members of XJapan (and occasionally the entire band) were banned from various restaurants, hotels, bars, and drinking establishments around Tokyo and elsewhere in Japan, due to the band's tendencies to start [[BarBrawl fights]]. Some bars even had "No Yoshiki" or [[VisualKei "No Blondes"]] (since both Yoshiki and other VK rockers that tended to cause trouble had blonde hair) signs, and the band still holds the record [[ForMassiveDamage for most damage done to a Japanese hotel.]] Not just the room, either. The hotel.
** Somewhat subverted in that after everything calmed down and [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney Yoshiki got rich]], he can now pretty much stay or drink anywhere he pleases.
* At one time, it was almost a point of pride for many punk rock, heavy metal, and hard rock bands to get themselves banned from venues and hotels; typically after trashing their rooms or starting riots at the venues, but also for violating local obscenity laws. Several have been banned from performing in entire states or countries; usually on obscenity grounds.
** {{GWAR}} was at one time banned from the state of North Carolina, for certain... [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean elements]] of their costuming.
** BadBrains was at one time banned at nearly every nightclub and performance venue in Washington D.C.
** TheWho at one time held the record for this, thanks to the antics of the late Keith Moon.
** Taken to the extreme by [[{{Industrial}} Power Electronics]] group Whitehouse, who would [[BlatantLies routinely bill themselves as a "synth-pop" band]] in order to get gigs, often provoking the baffled audience to riot or simply leave.
** [[TheWorldInfernoFriendshipSociety The World/Inferno Friendship Society]] won't have a chance to play at Cha-Cha's of Coney Island again, after what happened at [[NoodleIncident that one show in 2007]].[[hottip:*: Supposedly Cha-Cha's even calls other venues the band is playing at to try and warn the owners to cancel the show.]] Prior to 2003 the band was also banned from a few venues that they'd actually [[ImpressivePyrotechnics set on fire]].
* Music/GunsNRoses can never again perform in St. Louis after the Riverport Riot (in case you don't know, it all started when a bootlegger pressed W. Axl Rose's BerserkButton, and Axl flipped out and left the stage, which indirectly led the fans to riot).
* During a 1985 show in Switzerland, the PostPunk band Swans were actually arrested onstage and asked to ''leave the country'' for ''[[BeyondTheImpossible being too loud]]''.
* Hanatarash, for reasons that only TheOtherWiki [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanatarash could adequately explain with a straight face]]. [[RefugeInAudacity And yes, there is video.]]
* {{Ozzy Osbourne}} was banned from the city of San Antonio, Texas for a decade, for urinating on a cenotaph outside The Alamo.
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[[folder: TabletopRPG]]
* Classic ''{{Traveller}}'' supplement ''The Traveller Adventure''. During the adventure "Pysadian Escapade" the {{PC}}s are railroaded into inadvertently breaking a Pysadian law and end up being banned from the planet.
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[[folder: {{Theatre}}]]
* In ''MisterRoberts'', it's understandable why the crew of the "Bucket" would not be allowed ashore on Elysium again, after hearing what they did while on liberty there.
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[[folder: VideoGames]]
* In one of the ''{{Knights of the Old Republic}}'' games, if you end up killing an important fish on Mannan, the planetary authorities ban you from ever coming back.
** You ''can'' blackmail the authorities and force them to let you return, which is perfectly in line with the previous evil action.
* In ''UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'', Ange mentions briefly that [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy Amakusa]] will get arrested if he's ever caught back in France.
* Max has something to brag about in the ''Game/SamAndMaxFreelancePolice'' game ''Moai Better Blues'':
--> '''Max''': ... and I've been banned from 27 local arcades for playing ''Forbidden Dance Insurrection'' in ways that the designers never intended.
* The conclusion of ''[[TonyHawkProSkater Tony Hawk Underground 2]]''- subtitled "World Destruction Tour" - is a news report, which concludes with:
--> '''Hugh Jass''': And finally, Tony Hawk and Bam Margera, the founders of the World Destruction Tour, have been officially banned from ever returning to Boston, Barcelona, Berlin, Australia, New Orleans, and even Thailand. Upon hearing the news, Tony and Bam replied, "Hey, good call."
* A variation in ''FalloutNewVegas'': You can get yourself banned from every casino in the game if you win too much while gambling. You can still enter the casinos, but you can't gamble anymore.
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[[folder: {{Webcomics}}]]
* Tedd of ''ElGoonishShive'' managed to get himself banned from [[http://egscomics.com/?date=2002-03-01 certain areas of the mall.]] This overlaps with NoodleIncident because not even the author wants to know what happened (read the title of that strip).
* In ''QuestionableContent'', Jimbo managed to get himself banned from Canada. [[NoodleIncident Not even he knows how it happened.]] [[http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=777 Apparently he was very drunk at the time]].
* TriangleAndRobert are [[http://www.froup.com/tr/tr.pl?1653 banned from more of the country (essentially the USA) than actually exists]], as they've been banned from some areas twice and one county that banned them no longer exists as a consequence of the event that caused the ban. They're essentially living where they are because [[http://www.froup.com/tr/tr.pl?1654 the non industrial part of their city is the only place they can legally be in the entire country.]]
* In ''SlightlyDamned'', [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Buwaro]] and [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Kieri]] can never go back to the town of Weyville. Not because they've been ''banned'', technically, but because it's home to a KnightTemplar angel who'll kill them if he ever sees them again.
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[[folder: Web Original]]
* NostalgiaCritic can never go back to Nevada due to [[{{Kickassia}} it being the location of his base of operations during his attempt at invading & conquering the micro-nation of Molossia]].
** Similarly, the CinemaSnob was banned from returning to Kickassia by the Critic, after he plotted to overthrow him.
* Euron131: "[[RunningGag And that's why I'm not allowed back into Krispy Kreme]]..."
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[[folder: WesternAnimation]]
* In every episode of the show, TimonAndPumbaa got thrown out of wherever they were. Timon even [[LampshadeHanging asks]] at one point "Why did you think it was a good idea to drag us around the world getting into trouble?"
* Skipper mentions in ''ThePenguinsOfMadagascar'' that he can't go back to Denmark due to the [[NoodleIncident Copenhagen Incident]] involving Hans the Puffin.
* Unsurprisingly, ''TheSimpsons'':
** After getting kicked out of Florida in one episode, we see the family with an enormous map of the United States. They cross Florida off in a close shot, and the camera zooms out to show that all but about 3 states have permanently banned them.
** Played with in the episode "Lisa the Iconoclast'' where Lisa, and her children, and her children's children are banned from the historical society... for three months!
** On "Brother's Little Helper" (the episode where Bart is put on ADHD medication after his latest prank at school), Homer mentions a ten-year ban from the water park that recently ended. Whether this is connected to the incident in season two where Homer got stuck on a water slide due to his weight and the water slide had to be shut down so officials could release him isn't known as it wasn't mentioned outright, making the scene the punchline to a BrickJoke or yet another throwaway line that the writers don't want to flesh out that now stands as a NoodleIncident.
** In yet another episode, Bart and Milhouse were banned for life from Comic Book Guy's store. In an attempt to confort him, Homer tearfully reminisces of his first life-long ban: after eating one of Gallagher's melons during one of his shows, the latter banned him for life from all his future performances and related media.
** In one episode, Bart enters the school library only to find his father Homer there doing research. "This library is for students, why aren't you at the regular public library?" "There was some... [[NoodleIncident unpleasantness]], I can never go back."
** And they'll never let Homer near Lake Havasu again.
* In the ''{{Rugrats}} In Paris'' movie, one of Charles Finster's potential dates is said to not be allowed in the state of Kentucky.
* On ''TheFairlyOddparents'', Crocker can never go back to Cincinatti. [[NoodleIncident For reasons unknown]].
** Also, Cosmo is banned from Atlantis since he sunk it. [[BeyondTheImpossible NINE TIMES.]] Therefore, he becomes the number one criminal there. But in the end of the episode, Timmy is the new number one criminal.
** After establishing that it was he who made Crocker's life miserable, Timmy is banned by Jorgen von Strangle from going back in time to March 15th to fix that. Jorgen also threatened to ban Timmy from visiting other months of that year if he interferes with the election of "President McGovern".
* A NoodleIncident means that [[PhineasAndFerb Dr. Doofenshmirtz]] is no longer welcome in Albania.
* [[FriskyDingo Killface and Simon]] CAN'T EVER GO BACK TO ARIZONA!
* ''{{Chowder}}'' episode "Banned From the Stand" featured Mung Daal being [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin banned from Gazpacho's fruit stand]]. Mung can't simply buy fruits from another stand because the fruit stand owner code allows Gazpacho to extend the ban to the other fruit stands in Marzipan City. After Mung tried (and failed) to buy fruits under several disguises, Gazpacho became so paranoid he banned everyone... even ''himself''. Because being banned from a stand last for as long as the stand remains, his only way out was destroying the stand and building a new one, from wich Mung got himself banned [[spoiler: after repeating what got him banned from the first one]].
* ''GeneratorRex'': Lansky in "Moonlighting" has a RunningGag of "I can't go to (X). Long story."

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[[folder: RealLife]] - For details, see BannedInChina.
* Michael Savage was [[BannedInChina effectively banned from the U.K]].
* CharlieChaplin was banned from the USA during the RedScare and the [=McCarthy=] era, a situation that he parodied in ''A King in New York''. He was allowed back in with open arms in the early 1970's.
* Fred Phelps is banned from several places, most notably the U.K.
* Semi-related, but comedian Andrew Dice Clay is the only person to be banned from MTV.
** He was, apparently, unbanned at some point before [[http://www.mtv.com/photos/vma-2011-backstage-moments/1669000/6498896/photo.jhtml attending the 2011 MTV Video Music Awards]].
* At least one musician is banned for life from England's Channel 4 for saying "Fuck" before the WaterShed.
* For several years in the late 1980s, a CoastGuard cutter which shall remain nameless was banned from the port of Juneau, Alaska, until the crew (due to the usual billet changes and rotations) was almost entirely replaced. Upon its eventual return, Leslie Fish's filk song made the rounds of the enlisted decks.
* This is quite frequently the fate of anybody caught counting cards at a casino blackjack table. While card counting mentally is legal, so is banning players for virtually any reason besides discrimination, making ''Film/RainMan'' a case of [[TruthInTelevision Truth In Hollywood]].
** Of course, since it is not possible to prove if someone is counting cards mentally what this really means is that people who win at blackjack too consistently get banned from casinos.
*** There's more to it than that. Card counting results in very distinctive betting patterns, different from normal betting patterns, which are easily discernible by the security experts watching the game from above.
** World Memory Champion Dominic O'Brien was banned from every casino in the UK.
* [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/btricomi/sets/72157603931562612/with/4370806405/ Arielle Juliette]], belly dancer from Madison, Wisconsin. Plans were supposedly [[WhatCouldHaveBeen afoot to get her banned from performing in Bury, Bolton and some other parts of Greater Manchester]], all areas OopNorth, but thankfully this never happened.
** It's still not known WhatCouldHaveBeen, considering [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff that she's more popular in Greater Manchester than Madison, Wisconsin]]...
* Rustycon 1995: A Seattle area science-fiction convention already notorious for its wild partying was put into a very fancy Hyatt hotel. The hotel staff was clueless about what to expect. Among the highlights were an intoxicated person crashing ''through'' a plate glass window, the fire alarm was sabotaged, the elevators were broken, business guests put on the ''same floor'' as the party wing, several chandeliers were broken, and damage to the lobby artwork was in the five-figures. Needless to say, downtown Bellevue has not hosted a sci-fi convention since.
* Also banned from the UK is Terry Jones (not [[{{ptitlehwgm85et78jj}} that one]] -- the one who [[{{Troll}} occasionally announces plans to hold a mass Koran-burning]]).
* The man who started [[FanNickname The Malace at the Palace ]] got a season ticket revocation and a lifetime ban from the arena.
* There was an attempt to ban the German film, TheTinDrum in Oklahoma due to the [[FanDumb belief that it was child pornography]]. The director personally spoke to law makers to get the ruling overturned. He succeeded.
* Kurt Waldheim was Secretary-General of the UN and then President of Austria. He was also maybe a [[NaziGrandpa former Nazi intelligence officer]]. The controversy got so bad that by the time he was President of Austria he was not allowed to enter the United States, or many European countries. Nobody ever found conclusive proof (and at least one author claimed he was framed by Mossad), so Waldheim was never prosecuted.
* OzzyOsborne was banned from entering San Antonio after he was caught urinating on the Alamo.
* The Sheraton hotel chain will not host a Shriners' convention, owing to the extreme rowdiness and damages that tend to follow them. Mac Davis' song about a Shriners' convention involved molestation, extreme intoxication, and a motorcycle going off a high diving board; the real ones aren't nearly that sedate.
* During WW2 the Allies tried to quarter ANZAC troops in Cairo. The Egyptian government refused, saying that while New Zealanders were welcome, the city was still recovering from the victory celebration the Australian troops gave in the last world war.
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Your merry band of travelers is crossing the stars/the earth/the county line, and you find a nice fun planet/country/town for some shore leave. You don't actually ''mean'' for bad stuff to go down, but these things happen. There was [[GoneSwimmingClothesStolen nudity]], [[WeComeInPeaceShootToKill violence]], [[StuffBlowingUp stuff]] [[ImpressivePyrotechnics blowing]] [[ANuclearError up]], [[IntoxicationEnsues certain]] [[EverybodyMustGetStoned substances]] may have been imbibed/smoked, and whoops, you just started a revolution. Possibly, your name is [[MikeNelsonDestroyerOfWorlds Mike Nelson]], in which case, you're probably screwed.