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2nd Dec '16 7:52:28 PM Euodiachloris
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' or "How Can Seven Kingdoms Continue To Be One Without The Tyrants Who Welded It Into One Still Being In Charge?" The answer is... finding a new balance is [[{{Realpolitik}}a rather tough process]] with permanent schism very much on the cards. And, that's without Icy Doom coming from the North and Hot, Angry Dragons coming from the East to complicate things.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' or "How Can Seven Kingdoms Continue To Be One United Without The Tyrants Who Welded It Into One With Violence and Diplomacy Still Being In Charge?" The answer for the Seven Kingdoms under King Robert Baratheon is... finding a new balance is [[{{Realpolitik}}a to replace the old proved [[{{Realpolitik}} a rather tough process]] with permanent containing more downs than ups. And, it only gets vastly more tricky as the series progresses. Permanent schism remains very much on the cards.cards at every point, mainly due to the number of people vying for control while simultaneously trying to juggle everybody else. And, that's without Icy Doom coming from the North and Hot, Angry Dragons coming from the East to complicate things.
22nd Oct '16 8:26:33 PM isoycrazy
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* ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles:'' The Summer and Winter Courts of the Fey have a cyclic balancing act. From the summer solstice to winter solstice, the Summer Court goes from the height of its power to weakest while the Winter Court goes from its weakest to its strongest. This is reversed on the other half of the year. This balance is kept because if one side were to overcome the other it would lead to the destruction of the world as it is. If Winter wins [[spoiler:there will be another ice age]]. If Summer wins, [[spoiler:then there will be an infusion of growth in all living things, from people, to plants, to deadly viruses]]. As a result, if one side tries to gain some outside power, then the other side will seek to stop that power or gain some equal measure of strength. In ''Cold Days'' it is revealed [[spoiler:Winter has at least three times as many soldiers as Summer but they are out protecting all of Reality from entities from Outside Reality and who would destroy Reality if they had their way. Summer's forces are there to keep Winter from using the remaining portion to hurt humanity, as Mab, Queen of Winter, will sacrifice anything she needs to in the name of protecting Reality (herself included)]].
9th Sep '16 3:09:34 PM Materioptikon
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* Three of the Ancients in ''VideoGame/EternalDarkness'' have fallen into a precarious form of this, represented in-game as ElementalRockPaperScissors. Each seeks to destroy the one weak to their power and achieve ultimate power - [[spoiler:all ignorant that the Dead God Mantorok saw this coming a long time ago and through three {{Alternate Universe}}s tricks all three into killing each other.]]
26th Aug '16 7:38:48 AM FordPrefect
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* Ancient Rhodes, a noted MerchantCity in the Hellenistic era survived by it's expertise in maintaining the balance between the Successor States, and ensuring that it's small but [[BadassArmy extremely skilled navy]] was capable of tilting the balance back whenever one warlord became more powerful then the Rhodians liked.

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* Ancient Rhodes, a noted MerchantCity in the Hellenistic era era, survived by it's its expertise in maintaining the balance between the Successor States, and ensuring that it's its small but [[BadassArmy extremely skilled navy]] was capable of tilting the balance back whenever one warlord became more powerful then the Rhodians liked.



* Before the [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII Second World War]] there was Great Britain and France, the expanding Axis Powers, and the Glorious Soviet Union, each with an ideology that was unacceptable to the other two. Both the Glorious Soviets and the British knew that if they gone to war with Germany afterward they would be weakened and the other would exploit it and attack immediately. In the end the Glorious Soviet Union made a pact with Hitler to divide Poland and force Britain to go to war with the Axis Powers.

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* Before the [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII Second World War]] there was Great Britain and France, the expanding Axis Powers, and the Glorious Soviet Union, each with an ideology that was unacceptable to the other two. Both the Glorious Soviets and the British knew that that, if they gone went to war with Germany Germany, afterward they would be weakened and the other would exploit it and attack immediately. In the end the Glorious Soviet Union made a pact with Hitler to divide Poland and force Britain to go to war with the Axis Powers.
26th Aug '16 7:37:37 AM FordPrefect
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** Ancient Mayan city-states decllined in a similar way, as well as literal PoisoningTheWell

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** Ancient Mayan city-states decllined in a similar way, as well as literal PoisoningTheWell[[WaterSourceTampering poisoning water supplies]].
20th Aug '16 5:04:12 PM HolyDriver
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* The ''Manga/OnePiece'' 'verse has a Balance of Power crucial to the overall plot of the story. Types A and B consist of Marine Headquarters versus the Four Emperors (The World Government's military and the four most powerful pirate crews in the world, respectively). In the middle are the Seven Warlords of the Sea, who (on paper at least) are a Type-C, aiding the World Government against the Emperors. However, almost all of them are carrying out their own agendas on the side and some of them have casual and even friendly contact with some Emperors and up-and-coming pirates, making them more of an Type-E in practice. Threats to this balance include single-minded pirates like [[SpannerInTheWorks Monkey D. Luffy]] and the deliberate actions of [[LaResistance Dragon the Revolutionary]].

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* The ''Manga/OnePiece'' 'verse has a Balance of Power crucial to the overall plot of the story. Types A and B consist of Marine Headquarters versus the Four Emperors Yonkou (The World Government's military and the four most powerful pirate crews in the world, respectively). In the middle are the Seven Warlords of the Sea, Shichibukai, who (on paper at least) are a Type-C, aiding the World Government against the Emperors. Yonkou. However, almost all of them are carrying out their own agendas on the side and some of them have casual and even friendly contact with some Emperors Yonkou and up-and-coming pirates, making them more of an Type-E in practice. Threats to this balance include single-minded pirates like [[SpannerInTheWorks Monkey D. Luffy]] and the deliberate actions of [[LaResistance Dragon the Revolutionary]].
6th Jun '16 11:21:25 AM Morgenthaler
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* Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''[[{{Foundation}} Foundation Trilogy]]'' starts out this way. As the Galactic Empire starts to decline, the planet of Terminus is surrounded by the 'Four Kingdoms', who are looking to expand their own influence. They've also reverted to primitive forms of technology though, so when Salvor Hardin, the Mayor of Terminus, lets slip to one of the Four Kingdoms' ambassadors that Terminus still has nuclear power, it looks like Terminus is going to get invaded for its technology. Hardin, the MagnificentBastard that he is, ''also'' let slip Terminus has nuclear power to the other three Kingdoms. None of the four kingdoms are willing to invade Terminus now, under threat of joint retaliation from the other three kingdoms.

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* Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''[[{{Foundation}} ''[[Literature/{{Foundation}} Foundation Trilogy]]'' starts out this way. As the Galactic Empire starts to decline, the planet of Terminus is surrounded by the 'Four Kingdoms', who are looking to expand their own influence. They've also reverted to primitive forms of technology though, so when Salvor Hardin, the Mayor of Terminus, lets slip to one of the Four Kingdoms' ambassadors that Terminus still has nuclear power, it looks like Terminus is going to get invaded for its technology. Hardin, the MagnificentBastard that he is, ''also'' let slip Terminus has nuclear power to the other three Kingdoms. None of the four kingdoms are willing to invade Terminus now, under threat of joint retaliation from the other three kingdoms.
1st Jun '16 1:36:45 AM Doug86
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** Intervention on the side of the Entente in UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne was done to smooth over domestic unrest because Irish Home Rule was about to come into effect and the country was being wracked by massive social unrest instigated by Womens' Rights Activists (who wanted female suffrage) and striking Labour Unions (who wanted an end to child-labour, lethal working conditions, and seventy-hour weeks) - meanwhile, the left wing of the Labour Party was doing its best to channel all of this into Revolution. The 'best' solution - a years-long, cripplingly-expensive War Of Attrition[[note]] Forget 'Home By Christmas', everyone at the top knew what they were getting themselves into. Even the Schlieffen Plan wasn't 'Capture Paris', it was 'get as close to Paris as possible and thereby capture or destroy the bulk of French Industry, which is in the north-east'. To be fair they did manage to capture Belgium, the most heavily-industrialised country in Europe, and a full half of France's pre-war coal supply in just a few months. [[/note]]- demonstrates the seriousness of Britain's 1914 domestic political crisis.

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** Intervention on the side of the Entente in UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI was done to smooth over domestic unrest because Irish Home Rule was about to come into effect and the country was being wracked by massive social unrest instigated by Womens' Rights Activists (who wanted female suffrage) and striking Labour Unions (who wanted an end to child-labour, lethal working conditions, and seventy-hour weeks) - meanwhile, the left wing of the Labour Party was doing its best to channel all of this into Revolution. The 'best' solution - a years-long, cripplingly-expensive War Of Attrition[[note]] Forget 'Home By Christmas', everyone at the top knew what they were getting themselves into. Even the Schlieffen Plan wasn't 'Capture Paris', it was 'get as close to Paris as possible and thereby capture or destroy the bulk of French Industry, which is in the north-east'. To be fair they did manage to capture Belgium, the most heavily-industrialised country in Europe, and a full half of France's pre-war coal supply in just a few months. [[/note]]- demonstrates the seriousness of Britain's 1914 domestic political crisis.



* Pre-UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne Europe was much like this, except that there were ''three to six'' top-tier powers (Britain, Germany, and France at minimum, then Austria-Hungary, Russia, and Italy), with alliances shifting more frequently than you can shake a stick at. On top of that, there were the smaller powers, such as the neutral Low Countries, and the newly-minted and [[PatrioticFervor aggressively nationalistic]] countries of the Balkans (Serbia, Greece, and Romania topping the list in bellgerency and grandiose designs).

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* Pre-UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne Pre-UsefulNotes/WorldWarI Europe was much like this, except that there were ''three to six'' top-tier powers (Britain, Germany, and France at minimum, then Austria-Hungary, Russia, and Italy), with alliances shifting more frequently than you can shake a stick at. On top of that, there were the smaller powers, such as the neutral Low Countries, and the newly-minted and [[PatrioticFervor aggressively nationalistic]] countries of the Balkans (Serbia, Greece, and Romania topping the list in bellgerency and grandiose designs).



* Before the [[WorldWarII Second World War]] there was Great Britain and France, the expanding Axis Powers, and the Glorious Soviet Union, each with an ideology that was unacceptable to the other two. Both the Glorious Soviets and the British knew that if they gone to war with Germany afterward they would be weakened and the other would exploit it and attack immediately. In the end the Glorious Soviet Union made a pact with Hitler to divide Poland and force Britain to go to war with the Axis Powers.

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* Before the [[WorldWarII [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII Second World War]] there was Great Britain and France, the expanding Axis Powers, and the Glorious Soviet Union, each with an ideology that was unacceptable to the other two. Both the Glorious Soviets and the British knew that if they gone to war with Germany afterward they would be weakened and the other would exploit it and attack immediately. In the end the Glorious Soviet Union made a pact with Hitler to divide Poland and force Britain to go to war with the Axis Powers.
2nd Feb '16 12:13:49 PM DeisTheAlcano
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-->--'''Sir Humphrey''', ''Series/YesMinister''

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-->--'''Sir -->-- '''Sir Humphrey''', ''Series/YesMinister''



* ''RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms'' initially starts with a bunch of warlords carving out territory for themselves throughout China, but eventually the power consolidates around the three main rivals Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and Sun Quan. The balance sets in after the Battle of Red Cliffs, where the Sun and Liu factions put a large damper on Cao Cao's quest to reunify China.
* [[Creator/IsaacAsimov Isaac Asimov's]] ''[[{{Foundation}} Foundation Trilogy]]'' starts out this way. As the Galactic Empire starts to decline, the planet of Terminus is surrounded by the 'Four Kingdoms', who are looking to expand their own influence. They've also reverted to primitive forms of technology though, so when Salvor Hardin, the Mayor of Terminus, lets slip to one of the Four Kingdoms' ambassadors that Terminus still has nuclear power, it looks like Terminus is going to get invaded for its technology. Hardin, the MagnificentBastard that he is, ''also'' let slip Terminus has nuclear power to the other three Kingdoms. None of the four kingdoms are willing to invade Terminus now, under threat of joint retaliation from the other three kingdoms.
* ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' or "How Can Seven Kingdoms Continue To Be One Without The Tyrants Who Welded It Into One Still Being In Charge?" The answer is... finding a new balance is [[{{Realpolitik}}a rather tough process]] with permanent schism very much on the cards. And, that's without Icy Doom coming from the North and Hot, Angry Dragons coming from the East to complicate things.

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* ''RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms'' ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms'' initially starts with a bunch of warlords carving out territory for themselves throughout China, but eventually the power consolidates around the three main rivals Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and Sun Quan. The balance sets in after the Battle of Red Cliffs, where the Sun and Liu factions put a large damper on Cao Cao's quest to reunify China.
* [[Creator/IsaacAsimov Isaac Asimov's]] Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''[[{{Foundation}} Foundation Trilogy]]'' starts out this way. As the Galactic Empire starts to decline, the planet of Terminus is surrounded by the 'Four Kingdoms', who are looking to expand their own influence. They've also reverted to primitive forms of technology though, so when Salvor Hardin, the Mayor of Terminus, lets slip to one of the Four Kingdoms' ambassadors that Terminus still has nuclear power, it looks like Terminus is going to get invaded for its technology. Hardin, the MagnificentBastard that he is, ''also'' let slip Terminus has nuclear power to the other three Kingdoms. None of the four kingdoms are willing to invade Terminus now, under threat of joint retaliation from the other three kingdoms.
* ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' or "How Can Seven Kingdoms Continue To Be One Without The Tyrants Who Welded It Into One Still Being In Charge?" The answer is... finding a new balance is [[{{Realpolitik}}a rather tough process]] with permanent schism very much on the cards. And, that's without Icy Doom coming from the North and Hot, Angry Dragons coming from the East to complicate things.



-->Ajão realized he was telling the literal truth. If a hundred-ton moon rock were exchanged for an equivalent volume of--say--air at Giri's surface, the net potential energy released would be equivalent to a small fission bomb. Perhaps that explained the strange glassy plain Draere had photographed in the southern hemisphere.

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-->Ajão -->''"Ajão realized he was telling the literal truth. If a hundred-ton moon rock were exchanged for an equivalent volume of--say--air at Giri's surface, the net potential energy released would be equivalent to a small fission bomb. Perhaps that explained the strange glassy plain Draere had photographed in the southern hemisphere."''



* In Franchise/StarTrek, TheFederation, [[ProudWarriorRace Klingon Empire]], and [[SpaceRomans Romulan Star Empire]] all see themselves as A with the other two acting as B and E at different times over the course of more than a century. Once other powers like the Borg and Dominion came into play, this balance fell apart. [[CloakAndDagger Section 31]] made it its mission during [=DS9=]'s final season to permanently tip the balance in favor of the Federation.

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* In Franchise/StarTrek, ''Franchise/StarTrek'', TheFederation, [[ProudWarriorRace Klingon Empire]], and [[SpaceRomans Romulan Star Empire]] all see themselves as A with the other two acting as B and E at different times over the course of more than a century. Once other powers like the Borg and Dominion came into play, this balance fell apart. [[CloakAndDagger Section 31]] made it its mission during [=DS9=]'s final season to permanently tip the balance in favor of the Federation.
2nd Feb '16 12:09:42 PM WaxingName
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* ''RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''

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* ''RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms''''RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms'' initially starts with a bunch of warlords carving out territory for themselves throughout China, but eventually the power consolidates around the three main rivals Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and Sun Quan. The balance sets in after the Battle of Red Cliffs, where the Sun and Liu factions put a large damper on Cao Cao's quest to reunify China.
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