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26th Nov '17 1:07:18 PM FurryKef
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* Peisistratos was an Athenian tyrant after Solon, but only a tyrant in so much as he seized power by force, then becoming a benevolant ruler. Of course, Ancient Greece did not automatically assume the ''tyrannos'' to be a malevolent ruler.

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* Peisistratos was an Athenian tyrant after Solon, but only a tyrant in so much as he seized power by force, then becoming a benevolant benevolent ruler. Of course, Ancient Greece did not automatically assume the ''tyrannos'' to be a malevolent ruler.
23rd Oct '17 12:12:39 PM xcountryguy
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* Speaker of the House Glenallen Walken on ''Series/TheWestWing'', who temporarily became Acting President when [[spoiler: Bartlet's daughter Zoey was kidnapped]], is arguably one of these; although a conservative Republican whom the Democratic staffers of the West Wing feared was going to take over and force a Republican agenda through whilst he had the chance, Walken had no intention of exploiting Bartlet's personal tragedy for political gain (for sound political reasons as well as the obvious humane one, being well aware of how it could backfire and make him seem callous). He also proved to be a competent and effective Commander-in-Chief (which, ironically, also made the Democrats wary of him, since people might not want him to leave) and, despite his political differences with Bartlet and the staff, a reasonably amiable and gracious man.

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* Speaker of the House Glenallen Walken on ''Series/TheWestWing'', who temporarily became Acting President when [[spoiler: Bartlet's [[spoiler:Bartlet's daughter Zoey was kidnapped]], is arguably one of these; although a conservative Republican whom the Democratic staffers of the West Wing feared was going to take over and force a Republican agenda through whilst he had the chance, Walken had no intention of exploiting Bartlet's personal tragedy for political gain (for sound political reasons as well as the obvious humane one, being well aware of how it could backfire and make him seem callous). He also proved to be a competent and effective Commander-in-Chief (which, ironically, also made the Democrats wary of him, since people might not want him to leave) and, despite his political differences with Bartlet and the staff, a reasonably amiable and gracious man.



* In ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' Season Two, Haresh Chandra is introduced in this manner to suggest that he will be the show's [[SadistTeacher equivalent of Principal Snyder]] in [[Series/BuffytheVampireSlayer Buffy]] or maybe even the MonsterOfTheWeek in human form. But he's actually just [[spoiler: the new regular character's dad]].

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* In ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' Season Two, Haresh Chandra is introduced in this manner to suggest that he will be the show's [[SadistTeacher equivalent of Principal Snyder]] in [[Series/BuffytheVampireSlayer Buffy]] or maybe even the MonsterOfTheWeek in human form. But he's actually just [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the new regular character's dad]].



** Woundwort, [[spoiler: despite his defeat and unconfirmed death]], ends becoming a MemeticBadass to all the rabbit descendants in both warrens.
* Piers Anthony's ''Literature/{{Xanth}}'' series features "Evil Magician Trent" who, when he becomes the only [[spoiler: known]] possible choice for king, proves himself such a capable ruler he becomes known as "Good King Trent".

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** Woundwort, [[spoiler: despite [[spoiler:despite his defeat and unconfirmed death]], ends becoming a MemeticBadass to all the rabbit descendants in both warrens.
* Piers Anthony's ''Literature/{{Xanth}}'' series features "Evil Magician Trent" who, when he becomes the only [[spoiler: known]] [[spoiler:known]] possible choice for king, proves himself such a capable ruler he becomes known as "Good King Trent".



* Arguably, Severus Snape in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows''. While the Voldemort takeover of the magical world leads to a harsh regime (for the non-Slytherins, at least), the fact that Mudbloods and Mugglelovers are there ''at all'' suggests he was able to protect them somewhat. [[spoiler: [[InvokedTrope Dumbeldore actually made Snape promise to be this before his death.]]]]

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* Arguably, Severus Snape in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows''. While the Voldemort takeover of the magical world leads to a harsh regime (for the non-Slytherins, at least), the fact that Mudbloods and Mugglelovers are there ''at all'' suggests he was able to protect them somewhat. [[spoiler: [[InvokedTrope [[spoiler:[[InvokedTrope Dumbeldore actually made Snape promise to be this before his death.]]]]
6th Sep '17 3:36:48 PM Athanasia94
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* Logan from ''VideoGame/FableIII'' qualifies for this. After you spend a significant portion of the game preparing to revolt against his tyranny, [[spoiler:you find out that he did what he did in an attempt to protect Albion from the attack from the Crawler.]] While this still does not make him a good guy by any means, it makes his actions far more understandable.

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* Logan from ''VideoGame/FableIII'' qualifies for this. After you spend a significant portion of the game preparing to revolt against his tyranny, [[spoiler:you find out that he did what he did in an attempt to protect Albion from the attack from of the Crawler.]] While this still does not make him a good guy by any means, it makes his actions far more understandable.
6th Sep '17 3:36:04 PM Athanasia94
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* Logan from ''VideoGame/FableIII'' qualifies for this. After you spend a significant portion of the game preparing to revolt against his tyranny, [[spoiler:you find out that he did what he did in an attempt to protect Albion from the attack from the Crawler.]] While this still does not make him a good guy by any means, it makes his actions far more understandable.



* Logan from ''VideoGame/Fable3'' qualifies for this. After you spend a significant portion of the game preparing to revolt against his tyranny, [[spoiler:you find out that he did what he did in an attempt to protect Albion from the attack from the Crawler.]] While this still does not make him a good guy by any means, it makes his actions far more understandable.

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* Logan from ''VideoGame/Fable3'' qualifies for this. After you spend a significant portion of the game preparing to revolt against his tyranny, [[spoiler:you find out that he did what he did in an attempt to protect Albion from the attack from the Crawler.]] While this still does not make him a good guy by any means, it makes his actions far more understandable.
6th Sep '17 3:34:54 PM Athanasia94
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* Logan from ''VideoGame/Fable3'' qualifies for this. After you spend a significant portion of the game preparing to revolt against his tyranny, [[spoiler:you find out that he did what he did in an attempt to protect Albion from the attack from the Crawler.]] While this still does not make him a good guy by any means, it makes his actions far more understandable.
3rd Aug '17 2:44:31 PM Arcana4th
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* ''Videogame/ArcRiseFantasia'': Very downplayed, but Prince Weiss can count as this. He first shows up as TheEvilPrince, eager for world domination and not above killing his opposition. Turns out, he is actually the ''good'' option! [[spoiler:He triggered a genocide against a religious group, but said group ''was'' intending to cause the end of the world, even if unknowingly, he was never tyrannical against his own people, different than what Alf did when he rose to the throne. He also never harmed anyone in his own family, he loved his mother dearly and his attempt to save her causes others to curse him and his father, and despite the theories on the country, his father genuinely committed suicide, much against Weiss' will, he even attempts a peace treaty to end the war and join forces against the evil gods, but is killed by his brother by attempting that]]. He was extremely pragmatic and definitely crossed the MoralEventHorizon at some point, but he was never as evil as he initially seemed.
3rd Apr '17 6:21:39 AM Berrenta
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* In the Anniversary (and final) episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'', Mojo Jojo finally manages to TakeOverTheWorld, and immediately makes it a better place.
** And leaves out of boredom.

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* In the Anniversary (and final) episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'', Mojo Jojo finally manages to TakeOverTheWorld, and immediately makes it a better place.
** And leaves
place...only to leave out of boredom.
6th Oct '16 11:19:58 PM Mhazard
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* Petrus of Thorouland from ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' quotes this word-by-word if [[spoiler: you get killed by him when you attempted to avenge Reah.]]
6th Oct '16 11:18:57 PM Mhazard
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* Petrus of Thorouland from ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' quotes this word-by-word if [[spoiler: you get killed by him when you attempted to avenge Reah.]]
18th Aug '16 8:48:14 PM PaulA
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-->'''Homer:''' Mr. Burns' reign of terror is over! And today begins my reign of terrr... (''workers look nervous'')...-iffic management! \\

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-->'''Homer:''' ->'''Homer:''' Mr. Burns' reign of terror is over! And today begins my reign of terrr... (''workers look nervous'')...-iffic management! \\



-->--''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''

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-->--''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''
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* The MilesVorkosigan novel ''Brothers in Arms'' has Duv Galeni, who seems at first to be obstructing Miles and then later outright framing him. Miles thinks he's acting out of a desire for vengeance - Galeni's family were strongly tied to the Komarran resistance and were all killed in the revolts, while Miles' father is often (wrongly) blamed for the massacre that started it. [[spoiler: While Galeni is indeed kind of stuffy and humorless, he's also both competent and loyal, and isn't behind the frame-up; it's actually a plot by Galeni's NotQuiteDead father and Miles' clone brother. And Galeni's so serious about his job precisely because he's supposed to be a poster child for Barrayaran-Komarran rapprochement.]]

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* The MilesVorkosigan novel ''Brothers in Arms'' ''Literature/BrothersInArms'' has Duv Galeni, who seems at first to be obstructing Miles and then later outright framing him. Miles thinks he's acting out of a desire for vengeance - -- Galeni's family were strongly tied to the Komarran resistance and were all killed in the revolts, while Miles' father is often (wrongly) blamed for the massacre that started it. [[spoiler: While [[spoiler:While Galeni is indeed kind of stuffy and humorless, he's also both competent and loyal, and isn't behind the frame-up; it's actually a plot by Galeni's NotQuiteDead father and Miles' clone brother. And Galeni's so serious about his job precisely because he's supposed to be a poster child for Barrayaran-Komarran rapprochement.]]
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