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19th May '18 4:53:57 AM Hjortron18
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->'''Homer:''' Mr. Burns' reign of terror is over! And today begins my reign of terrr... (''workers look nervous'')...-iffic management! \\

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->'''Homer:''' Mr. Burns' reign of terror is over! And today begins my reign of terrr... (''workers ''[workers look nervous'')...nervous]''...-iffic management! \\
26th Mar '18 10:58:00 AM Jake
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* In Creator/JohnHemry's ''Literature/TheLostFleet'' series, once the naval forces get over their reaction to John Geary as the KingInTheMountain they start to resent the changes he makes, from insisting on saluting to making them fight in formation and stay in place even when they could win glory by attacking. At one point, he explicitly thinks that they thought that Black Jack could come back and save them all without changing anything.

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* In Creator/JohnHemry's ''Literature/TheLostFleet'' series, once the naval forces get over their reaction to John Geary as the KingInTheMountain they start to resent the changes he makes, from insisting on saluting forcing them to act less MildlyMilitary to [[SoldierVersusWarrior making them fight in formation and stay in place even when they could win glory by attacking. attacking.]] At one point, he explicitly thinks that they thought that Black Jack could come back and save them all without changing anything.anything. But eventually, after a couple of remarkably one-sided victories, the fleet comes around to Geary's way of thinking.
20th Mar '18 12:50:34 PM StarSword
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** General Hammond on ''Series/StargateSG1''. One of his first acts was to try to blow up an inhabited planet. It wasn't long before he was downright fluffy, though. At one point, when SG-1 has been captured by Hathor, he personally flies second seat in a special Goa'uld Death Glider to free them.

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** General Hammond on ''Series/StargateSG1''. One of his first acts was to try to blow up an inhabited planet. planet and throw the JustFollowingOrders excuse, before tossing Jack O'Neill in a holding cell for creatively interpreting his orders in ''Film/{{Stargate}}''.[[note]]Jack had been ordered to nuke any potential threat to Earth on his first trip through the gate, which turned out to be the Goa'uld Supreme System Lord Ra. Jack did so; however he lied in his report that Ra's mothership had been on the ground when the bomb went off and that the bomb had also destroyed the TransplantedHuman civilization on Abydos (along with Daniel Jackson, who had fallen in love with a local woman and stayed behind).[[/note]] However, he shortly after rethinks this and asks Jack for alternatives, setting up the series. It wasn't long before he was downright fluffy, though.would almost unquestioningly approve virtually any CrazyEnoughToWork plan SG-1 ever came up with. At one point, when SG-1 has been captured by Hathor, he personally flies second seat in a special Goa'uld Death Glider to free them.
14th Mar '18 11:57:04 AM LittleDancerGirl
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* Dr. Mildred Finch on ''Series/{{NUMB3RS}}''. At first Charlie resents the changes she makes, but she generally has good reasons. She can be pushy, but she's a decent person and a competent administrator. And when she turns her supposed "pushiness" against people who are trying to take advantage or hurt Charlie, it turns into a moment of awesome, everytime.

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* Dr. Mildred Finch on ''Series/{{NUMB3RS}}''. At first Charlie resents the changes she makes, but she generally has good reasons. She can be pushy, but she's a decent person and a competent administrator. And when she turns her supposed "pushiness" against people who are trying to take advantage or hurt Charlie, it turns into a moment of awesome, everytime.every time.
** It doesn't hurt that once she starts getting comfortable, she lets up a bit on some of the ultimatums she had laid down at the beginning.
15th Feb '18 5:45:58 PM Iaculus
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* In Creator/DanAbnett's ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': ''Literature/GauntsGhosts'' novel ''Honour Guard'', Commissar Viktor Hark is assigned to the Ghosts with the express purpose of seeing to Gaunt's removal from command and clashes with him repeatedly on matters of authority. He later proves himself to be a competent and charismatic leader, as well as a good shot with his plasma pistol, and ends up joining the Ghosts at the end to serve as one of Gaunt's go-to people when there's a problem that needs to be deal with.

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* In Creator/DanAbnett's ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': ''Literature/GauntsGhosts'' novel ''Honour Guard'', Commissar Viktor Hark is assigned to the Ghosts with the express purpose of seeing to Gaunt's removal from command and clashes with him repeatedly on matters of authority. He later proves himself to be a competent and charismatic leader, as well as a good shot with his plasma pistol, pistol[[note]]more important than it sounds - plasma guns are rare and expensive weapons designed to kill lightly-armoured vehicles[[/note]], and ends up joining the Ghosts at the end to serve as one of Gaunt's go-to people when there's a problem that needs to be deal with.
10th Feb '18 11:49:09 AM SeptimusHeap
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* In the first few minutes of ''TheProposition'', Stanley seems to be a brute presenting the protagonist with a SadisticChoice. He turns out to be one of the most decent people in the film.

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* In the first few minutes of ''TheProposition'', ''Film/TheProposition'', Stanley seems to be a brute presenting the protagonist with a SadisticChoice. He turns out to be one of the most decent people in the film.
29th Dec '17 3:04:49 PM LondonKdS
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** When Captain Edward Jellico is given command of the Enterprise while Picard and some of the senior staff are sent on a Black Op. This starts out looking like a TyrantTakesTheHelm plot when he immediately starts to change everyone's duty roster until they can barely see straight, tells Troi to put on a uniform instead of parading around in her [[{{Fanservice}} lavender bunny suit]] [[note]] To the absolute DELIGHT of the actress, if not the character[[/note]], tells off Riker when he tries to question one of his orders, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking demands that someone "get rid of the damned fish" in Picard's office]]. But Jellico then goes on to prove himself to be a very effective officer when he sees through several layers of Cardassian deception, tricks the Cardassian fleet into a minefield, and gets Picard out of a prison camp in exchange for letting the fleet go.

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** When Captain Edward Jellico is given command of the Enterprise while Picard and some of the senior staff are sent on a Black Op. This starts out looking like a TyrantTakesTheHelm plot when he immediately starts to change everyone's duty roster until they can barely see straight, tells Troi to put on a uniform instead of parading around in her [[{{Fanservice}} lavender bunny suit]] [[note]] To the absolute DELIGHT of the actress, if not the character[[/note]], character, especially since that innovation turned out to be permanent[[/note]], tells off Riker when he tries to question one of his orders, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking demands that someone "get rid of the damned fish" in Picard's office]]. But Jellico then goes on to prove himself to be a very effective officer when he sees through several layers of Cardassian deception, tricks the Cardassian fleet into a minefield, and gets Picard out of a prison camp in exchange for letting the fleet go.
26th Nov '17 1:07:18 PM FurryKef
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* Peisistratos was an Athenian tyrant after Solon, but only a tyrant in so much as he seized power by force, then becoming a benevolant ruler. Of course, Ancient Greece did not automatically assume the ''tyrannos'' to be a malevolent ruler.

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* Peisistratos was an Athenian tyrant after Solon, but only a tyrant in so much as he seized power by force, then becoming a benevolant benevolent ruler. Of course, Ancient Greece did not automatically assume the ''tyrannos'' to be a malevolent ruler.
23rd Oct '17 12:12:39 PM xcountryguy
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* Speaker of the House Glenallen Walken on ''Series/TheWestWing'', who temporarily became Acting President when [[spoiler: Bartlet's daughter Zoey was kidnapped]], is arguably one of these; although a conservative Republican whom the Democratic staffers of the West Wing feared was going to take over and force a Republican agenda through whilst he had the chance, Walken had no intention of exploiting Bartlet's personal tragedy for political gain (for sound political reasons as well as the obvious humane one, being well aware of how it could backfire and make him seem callous). He also proved to be a competent and effective Commander-in-Chief (which, ironically, also made the Democrats wary of him, since people might not want him to leave) and, despite his political differences with Bartlet and the staff, a reasonably amiable and gracious man.

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* Speaker of the House Glenallen Walken on ''Series/TheWestWing'', who temporarily became Acting President when [[spoiler: Bartlet's [[spoiler:Bartlet's daughter Zoey was kidnapped]], is arguably one of these; although a conservative Republican whom the Democratic staffers of the West Wing feared was going to take over and force a Republican agenda through whilst he had the chance, Walken had no intention of exploiting Bartlet's personal tragedy for political gain (for sound political reasons as well as the obvious humane one, being well aware of how it could backfire and make him seem callous). He also proved to be a competent and effective Commander-in-Chief (which, ironically, also made the Democrats wary of him, since people might not want him to leave) and, despite his political differences with Bartlet and the staff, a reasonably amiable and gracious man.



* In ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' Season Two, Haresh Chandra is introduced in this manner to suggest that he will be the show's [[SadistTeacher equivalent of Principal Snyder]] in [[Series/BuffytheVampireSlayer Buffy]] or maybe even the MonsterOfTheWeek in human form. But he's actually just [[spoiler: the new regular character's dad]].

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* In ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' Season Two, Haresh Chandra is introduced in this manner to suggest that he will be the show's [[SadistTeacher equivalent of Principal Snyder]] in [[Series/BuffytheVampireSlayer Buffy]] or maybe even the MonsterOfTheWeek in human form. But he's actually just [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the new regular character's dad]].



** Woundwort, [[spoiler: despite his defeat and unconfirmed death]], ends becoming a MemeticBadass to all the rabbit descendants in both warrens.
* Piers Anthony's ''Literature/{{Xanth}}'' series features "Evil Magician Trent" who, when he becomes the only [[spoiler: known]] possible choice for king, proves himself such a capable ruler he becomes known as "Good King Trent".

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** Woundwort, [[spoiler: despite [[spoiler:despite his defeat and unconfirmed death]], ends becoming a MemeticBadass to all the rabbit descendants in both warrens.
* Piers Anthony's ''Literature/{{Xanth}}'' series features "Evil Magician Trent" who, when he becomes the only [[spoiler: known]] [[spoiler:known]] possible choice for king, proves himself such a capable ruler he becomes known as "Good King Trent".



* Arguably, Severus Snape in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows''. While the Voldemort takeover of the magical world leads to a harsh regime (for the non-Slytherins, at least), the fact that Mudbloods and Mugglelovers are there ''at all'' suggests he was able to protect them somewhat. [[spoiler: [[InvokedTrope Dumbeldore actually made Snape promise to be this before his death.]]]]

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* Arguably, Severus Snape in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows''. While the Voldemort takeover of the magical world leads to a harsh regime (for the non-Slytherins, at least), the fact that Mudbloods and Mugglelovers are there ''at all'' suggests he was able to protect them somewhat. [[spoiler: [[InvokedTrope [[spoiler:[[InvokedTrope Dumbeldore actually made Snape promise to be this before his death.]]]]
6th Sep '17 3:36:48 PM Athanasia94
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* Logan from ''VideoGame/FableIII'' qualifies for this. After you spend a significant portion of the game preparing to revolt against his tyranny, [[spoiler:you find out that he did what he did in an attempt to protect Albion from the attack from the Crawler.]] While this still does not make him a good guy by any means, it makes his actions far more understandable.

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* Logan from ''VideoGame/FableIII'' qualifies for this. After you spend a significant portion of the game preparing to revolt against his tyranny, [[spoiler:you find out that he did what he did in an attempt to protect Albion from the attack from of the Crawler.]] While this still does not make him a good guy by any means, it makes his actions far more understandable.
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