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7th Dec '17 12:44:58 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' gives us several examples:

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* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' gives us several examples:''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'':



** Sonic the Hedgehog himself has suffered even worse than his co-stars, thanks to [[VideoGame3DLeap unnatural progression to 2d to 3d]] while he regained fame with ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' the second adventure game (and the introduction) split the fanbase from the people who enjoyed the older games and the people who like the newer ones. Sega was torn between audiences, and have tried several to reboot Sonic but yield poor results (except for ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'' and ''VideoGame/SonicColors''.) ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' especially put Sonic in bad state due to choppy gameplay and accusations of [[InterspeciesRomance bestiality]] between Sonic and princess Elise. And after ''VideoGame/SonicBoom'' bombing just as bad, it came to the point where starring in ''Franchise/SuperSmashBros'', a Nintendo game, was more fulfilling than his own games.
7th Dec '17 10:02:11 AM SpinAttaxx
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* As ScienceMarchesOn and we understand dinosaurs better, the popular image of dinosaurs as badass giant draconic lizards with mighty roars decays in favor of what can be summed up as giant flightless birds. Somehow, we doubt ''Film/JurassicPark'' would have been as memorable if its velociraptors were silent and covered in colorful feathers.
3rd Dec '17 10:58:56 AM Albert3105
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* In ''{{VideoGame/Okami}}'', the legendary hero Nagi slays the last head of the multi-headed dragon demon Orochi by himself, with the player character, the goddess Amaterasu, destroying the rest of the heads. [[HistoryRepeats His descendant Susano repeats this act against a reanimated Orochi a hundred years later.]] Unfortunately for Nagi, it is revealed in the sequel ''{{VideoGame/Okamiden}}'' that ''another god'' (the sequel's player character) slashed open the final head for him, negating much of his credit. To rub the salt in, '''Susano still manages to destroy Orochi's last head''' '''''without any player intervention.'''''
26th Nov '17 3:31:50 PM sonikkuruzu
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* Jason Todd aka ''ComicBook/TheRedHood'''s character progression goes up and down more times than a roller coaster; he had a rough start both in universe ([[StreetUrchin born on the streets]]) and as Robin as well. Replacing the vastly more popular ''ComicBook/DickGrayson'' in addition to disobeying and antagonizing Batman caused thousands of fans [[ComicBook/TheScrappy to hate Jason's guts]] to the point where that fans eventually voted for him [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily to be killed by the Joker]]. While an almost equal number of people voted to spare him (it is rumored that at least three hundred of the votes were from the same caller). DC took this to heart, and brought Jason back as the morally unstable [[GunsAkimbo gun toting]] AntiHero Red Hood which is considered a major upgrade from boy wonder. But alas after DC [[ContinuityReboot rebooted]] themsleves again, Todd stop being a violent Punisher-level vigilante and rejoined the [[BadassFamily Bat-family]]. To make matters even worse he changed his stance on not killing criminals which was the one thing that [[PacifistHero dissociated]] him from Batman.

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* Jason Todd aka ''ComicBook/TheRedHood'''s [[ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws the Red Hood]]'s character progression goes up and down more times than a roller coaster; he had a rough start both in universe ([[StreetUrchin born on the streets]]) and as Robin as well. Replacing the vastly more popular ''ComicBook/DickGrayson'' [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] in addition to disobeying and antagonizing Batman caused thousands of fans [[ComicBook/TheScrappy to hate Jason's guts]] to the point where that fans eventually voted for him [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily to be killed by the Joker]]. While an almost equal number of people voted to spare him (it is rumored that at least three hundred of the votes were from the same caller). DC took this to heart, and brought Jason back as the morally unstable [[GunsAkimbo gun toting]] AntiHero Red Hood which is considered a major upgrade from boy wonder. But alas after DC [[ContinuityReboot rebooted]] themsleves again, Todd stop stopped being a violent Punisher-level vigilante and rejoined the [[BadassFamily Bat-family]]. To make matters even worse he changed his stance on not killing criminals which was the one thing that [[PacifistHero [[TechnicalPacifist dissociated]] him from Batman.
24th Sep '17 7:27:25 PM mouschilight
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** Sakura Haruno starts off the TimeSkip as the first member of Team 7 to go up against a Akatsuki, Sasori. She was hailed as the second coming of Tsunade, who'd she'd eventually surpass with her talent. Come next arc... she's knocked out at the starting bell after Naruto roars Kabuto into her. Come next arc... she does nothing, she doesn't even get to fight. [[RuleOfThree Come next arc]]... she still isn't able to land a blow on Tobi. {{Subverted|Trope}} in the Invasion of Pain where she knocks out one of Pain's summons with [[OneHitKill one blow]] and organizes the survivors while Naruto fights Pain one on one. THEN in the next arc she hits her lowest low: First she's treated as a ragdoll by Karui and Omoi, getting knocked out. Then she delivers a [[BreakHisHeartToSaveHim painfully fake]] [[FalseConfession love confession]] to Naruto to get him off Sasuke's trail, and [[WhatTheHellHero it doesn't]] [[ShipSinking work at all]]. Then she decides to kill Sasuke on her own... and can't bring herself to do it because [[SingleTargetSexuality she still loves him]]. Then she gets strangled by a weakened Sasuke ''despite having SuperStrength'' and needs Naruto to save her from the stab of her own kunai...and because of that, he ends up getting cut by ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero that very same kunai]]''.
** Sasuke Uchiha is also strangely another contender for Badass Decay. At the start of Part II, he was on another level than Naruto, Sakura, and Sai together, and he took over Orochimaru's consciousness when [[GrandTheftMe he tried to transfer his mind into his]], battles the powerful Akatsuki member Deidara one on one and wins (AssPull escape notwithstanding) and then fights Itachi and manages to impress him and ''force'' him to use his trump card, [[PoweredArmor Susano'o]] to survive his [[ShockAndAwe Kirin]]. Then he faces the awesome [[CrazyAwesome Killer Bee]] and...gets pwned even with his full team AND is humiliated when he takes a tentacle of Killer Bee back to Akatsuki. Then he faces the Kages, and puts up an impressive but futile fight against [[FourStarBadass the Raikage, A]] before Gaara needed to [[SaveTheVillain save him]]. He fights Gaara who blocks all of his Amaterasu strikes without even moving while simultaneously protecting his siblings and Darui. He is then nearly killed by [[LadyOfWar Mei Terumi]] despite having a higher level of Susano'o available, needing White Zetsu to save him. And then [[BigBad Obito while playing Madara]] had to save him from being atomized by [[BadassGrandpa Onoki]]. He managed to get some badass credentials back when he fought and beat [[WellIntentionedExtremist Danzo Shimura]] despite Danzo holding back, the very fact he could hold out against [[RealityWarping Izanagi spam]] even Itachi complimented on. Then come Kakashi...he loses his sight fighting him when he gets Susano'o's final armor. And is nearly stabbed by Sakura in the back. Then in the [[WarArc Fourth Shinobi World War Arc]] he takes down all Zetsus alone but is limited from fighting Kabuto with all power by Itachi.

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** Sakura Haruno starts off the TimeSkip as the first member of Team 7 to go up against a Akatsuki, Sasori. She was hailed as the second coming of Tsunade, who'd she'd eventually surpass with her talent. Come next arc... she's knocked out at the starting bell after Four-Tailed Naruto roars Kabuto into smacks her hard enough that he almost kills her. Come next arc... she does nothing, she doesn't even get to fight. [[RuleOfThree Come next arc]]... she still isn't able to land a blow on Tobi. {{Subverted|Trope}} in the Invasion of Pain arc, where she knocks out one of Pain's summons with [[OneHitKill one blow]] and organizes the survivors while Naruto fights Pain one on one. THEN in the next arc [[NeverLiveItDown she hits her lowest low: low]]: First she's treated as a ragdoll by Karui and Omoi, getting knocked out. Then she delivers a [[BreakHisHeartToSaveHim painfully fake]] [[FalseConfession love confession]] to Naruto to get him off Sasuke's trail, and [[WhatTheHellHero it doesn't]] [[ShipSinking it does not work at all]]. Then [[KillTheOnesYouLove she decides to kill Sasuke on her own... own]]...and at the very last second, she can't bring herself to do it because [[SingleTargetSexuality she still loves him]]. Then she gets strangled by a weakened Sasuke ''despite having SuperStrength'' and needs Naruto to save her from the stab of her own kunai...and but because of that, he ends up getting cut by ''[[NiceJobBreakingItHero that very same kunai]]''.
** Sasuke Uchiha is also strangely another contender for Badass Decay. At the start of Part II, he was on another level than Naruto, Sakura, and Sai together, and he took over Orochimaru's consciousness when [[GrandTheftMe he tried to transfer his mind into his]], battles the powerful Akatsuki member Deidara one on one and wins (AssPull escape notwithstanding) and then fights Itachi and manages to impress him and ''force'' him to use his trump card, [[PoweredArmor Susano'o]] to survive his [[ShockAndAwe Kirin]]. Then he faces the awesome [[CrazyAwesome Killer Bee]] and...gets pwned even with his full team AND is humiliated when he takes a tentacle of Killer Bee back to Akatsuki. Then he faces the Kages, and puts up an impressive but futile fight against [[FourStarBadass the Raikage, A]] before Gaara needed to [[SaveTheVillain save him]]. He fights Gaara who blocks all of his Amaterasu strikes without even moving while simultaneously protecting his siblings and Darui. He is then nearly killed by [[LadyOfWar Mei Terumi]] despite having a higher level of Susano'o available, needing White Zetsu to save him. And then [[BigBad Obito while playing Madara]] had to save him from being atomized by [[BadassGrandpa Onoki]]. He managed to get some badass credentials back when he fought and beat [[WellIntentionedExtremist Danzo Shimura]] despite Danzo holding back, the very fact he could hold out against [[RealityWarping Izanagi spam]] even Itachi complimented on. Then come Kakashi...he loses his sight fighting him when he gets Susano'o's final armor. And is nearly stabbed by Sakura in the back. Then in the [[WarArc Fourth Shinobi World War Arc]] he takes down all Zetsus alone but is limited from fighting Kabuto with all power by Itachi.
15th Sep '17 8:42:12 AM Titeufoo
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** Once considered Sonic's equal and the respected guardian of a powerful artifact, Knuckles the Echidna has now devolved into a ButtMonkey who always gets tricked by an outside party and is the embodiment of DumbMuscle. [[DemotedToExtra He's hardly even an important character anymore either.]] Fans were getting tired of playing multiple characters and wanted to go back to ''just'' Sonic. Tails has gotten better since ''VideoGame/SonicColors''. Meanwhile, Knuckles is still a butt monkey, however the ''WestenAnimation/SonicBoom'' turns him into the funniest and most likable character, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA1dtqyTRAI seen here]].

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** Once considered Sonic's equal and the respected guardian of a powerful artifact, Knuckles the Echidna has now devolved into a ButtMonkey who always gets tricked by an outside party and is the embodiment of DumbMuscle. [[DemotedToExtra He's hardly even an important character anymore either.]] Fans FanDumb were getting tired of playing multiple characters and wanted to go back to ''just'' Sonic. Tails has gotten better since ''VideoGame/SonicColors''. Meanwhile, Knuckles is still a butt monkey, however the ''WestenAnimation/SonicBoom'' turns him into the funniest and most likable character, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA1dtqyTRAI seen here]]. Of course, he stills suffer of Flanderization and became nothing more than a DumbMuscle.
14th Sep '17 7:33:54 AM TommyTiger
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* This happens to the hitman Vincent in ''Film/{{Collateral}}''. He goes through most of the movie as a cold blooded killer who shoots down enemies in seconds. When it comes time for the climax, [[spoiler:he is gunned down by the cabbie hero who had never picked up a gun in his life]]. {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d after a fashion and probably justified: [[spoiler:His last words are [[TemptingFate to taunt the hero with how much better at this stuff he is.]] Doesn't matter how experienced you are if you let hubris get the better of you, genius]].

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* This happens to the hitman Vincent in ''Film/{{Collateral}}''. He goes through most of the movie as a cold blooded killer who shoots down enemies in seconds. When it comes time for the climax, [[spoiler:he is gunned down by the cabbie hero who had never picked up a gun in his life]]. {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d after a fashion and probably justified: [[spoiler:His last words are [[TemptingFate to taunt the hero with how much better at this stuff he is.]] Doesn't matter how experienced you are if you let hubris get the better of you, genius]].]]]]
6th Sep '17 10:55:46 AM NNinja
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* Miles Edgeworth in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series is introduced as a ruthless, brutal prosecutor who seems not to care at all about human rights and terrifies everyone around him, even his subordinates. Eventually, though, he becomes instead quirky, awkward and fussy but likable, while Gumshoe and his other subordinates are {{flanderiz|ation}}ed into useless [[TheDitz ditzes]] that he has to use ToughLove on. This seems due mostly to his status as EnsembleDarkhorse, but [[WatsonianVersusDoylist is explained in-universe]] by learning from his former friend Phoenix that one doesn't have to be brutal to be just. Unfortunately, they ruin that last part with the {{retcon}} that [[spoiler:he never knowingly used forged evidence]], thus taking away a lot of his original badass (and villainous) points.
23rd Aug '17 5:50:24 PM LlamaAdventure
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** ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'' (which takes place before the rest of the Arkham games) inflicts the Riddler with this retroactively, as when he was just a simple hacker/extortionist known as Enigma he was surprisingly competent and far less openly arrogant. In fact [[spoiler: Origins is not only the only game in which Eddie evades capture, but ultimately succeeds in his goal due to it not being humiliating Batman for once (which was just a side project.)]] Sadly, at some point he became obsessed with proving himself to be Batman's intellectual superior, and the pompous yet largely ineffectual Riddler was born.
23rd Aug '17 5:39:41 PM LlamaAdventure
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** ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'' (which takes place before the rest of the Arkham games) inflicts the Riddler with this retroactively, as when he was just a simple hacker/extortionist known as Enigma he was surprisingly competent and far less openly arrogant. In fact [[spoiler: Origins is not only the only game in which Eddie evades capture, but ultimately succeeds in his goal due to it not being humiliating Batman for once (which was just a side project.)]]

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** ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'' (which takes place before the rest of the Arkham games) inflicts the Riddler with this retroactively, as when he was just a simple hacker/extortionist known as Enigma he was surprisingly competent and far less openly arrogant. In fact [[spoiler: Origins is not only the only game in which Eddie evades capture, but ultimately succeeds in his goal due to it not being humiliating Batman for once (which was just a side project.)]])]] Sadly, at some point he became obsessed with proving himself to be Batman's intellectual superior, and the pompous yet largely ineffectual Riddler was born.
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