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7th Feb '16 6:53:40 PM TheBigBopper
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': When the King of Midland created the Black Dog Knights out of the kingdom's [[ArmyOfThievesAndWhores worst convicts]], the sadistic Apostle Wyald successfully [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] the trope by persuading the King to make whoever proved himself the toughest the leader of the others. Wyald gave the only guy big enough to challenge him a CruelAndUnusualDeath, cowing the rest and giving the King no doubt about who was fit to lead. Subsequently [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] in that Wyald has no qualification to lead besides being the strongest fighter, causing his men to die using LeeroyJenkins tactics and by killing anybody who annoys him.
1st Feb '16 11:21:33 AM SilenceInTheLibrary
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** Played straight with the enemy forces of the Homeland and/or Beast Titan. If you prove yourself better in a fight than your superior, you're the new authority. [[EatenAlive Challenge him and lose, though...]]
11th Jan '16 6:07:04 PM Peteman
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* ''Webcomic/ExterminatusNow'' amusingly combines this with ThePeterPrinciple. Antonius Schaefer is the main characters' superior and he is completely incompetent at his job, relying on his put-upon subordinate, Inquisitor Riktor to run things. However, when he gets a (false) lead on Website/EBay being an international weapons' smuggling operation, he found that it actually ''was'' part of a criminal conspiracy and took it down.

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31st Dec '15 10:57:02 PM comicwriter
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* In Wakanda of ''ComicBook/BlackPanther'', they hold a tournament where anyone can challenge the current king for the right to take the throne.
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* In Wakanda of ''ComicBook/BlackPanther'', they hold a tournament where anyone can challenge the current king for the right to take the throne. Also, Erik Killmonger once briefly became the new Black Panther after killing T'Challa in combat ([[OnlyMostlyDead T'Challa got better]]).
23rd Dec '15 11:53:24 PM harostar
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* This rule applies to both sides of the conflict in ''Manga/TokyoGhoul''. Ghoul society is incredibly Darwinian, with leaders of gangs and [[UsefulNotes/Tokyo Wards]] earning their position through being the strongest around. On the human side, the [[TheHunter CCG]] promotes primarily based on accomplishments in the field. Anyone in a position of authority has ''earned'' it, and the elite Special Class Investigators are the best of the best.
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* This rule applies to both sides of the conflict in ''Manga/TokyoGhoul''. Ghoul society is incredibly Darwinian, with leaders of gangs and [[UsefulNotes/Tokyo [[UsefulNotes/{{Tokyo}} Wards]] earning their position through being the strongest around. On the human side, the [[TheHunter CCG]] promotes primarily based on accomplishments in the field. Anyone in a position of authority has ''earned'' it, and the elite Special Class Investigators are the best of the best.
23rd Dec '15 11:52:20 PM harostar
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* This rule applies to both sides of the conflict in ''Manga/TokyoGhoul''. Ghoul society is incredibly Darwinian, with leaders of gangs and [[UsefulNotes/Tokyo Wards]] earning their position through being the strongest around. On the human side, the [[TheHunter CCG]] promotes primarily based on accomplishments in the field. Anyone in a position of authority has ''earned'' it, and the elite Special Class Investigators are the best of the best.
10th Dec '15 11:48:37 PM merotoker
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->''"I'm TheLeader because I'm a '''very good fighter'''."''
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->''"I'm TheLeader the leader because I'm a '''very good fighter'''."''

Usually, the base culture or organization is of the SocialDarwinist variety or the ProudWarriorRaceGuy. They will benefit from great strength and martial ability, but don't expect them to put much value on teamwork. Their main problem will usually be that they place such importance on ''[[AmbitionIsEvil personal]]'' power that they eschew not just ThePowerOfFriendship but tactical cooperation in favor of individual glory. This makes them vulnerable to cultures placing more value on teamwork as the relatively weaker warriors will be far better coordinated.
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Usually, the base culture or organization is of the SocialDarwinist TheSocialDarwinist variety or the ProudWarriorRaceGuy. They will benefit from great strength and martial ability, but don't expect them to put much value on teamwork. Their main problem will usually be that they place such importance on ''[[AmbitionIsEvil personal]]'' power that they eschew not just ThePowerOfFriendship but tactical cooperation in favor of individual glory. This makes them vulnerable to cultures placing more value on teamwork as the relatively weaker warriors will be far better coordinated.

Neatly satisfies the SlidingScaleOfVillainThreat and SortingAlgorithmOfEvil. Avoids DiminishingVillainThreat, as there is a logical reason for a bigger bad to replace the current one (although it better not be that SmugSnake ReliableTraitor). You can expect these groups to be easily divided by an EvilPowerVacuum or EnemyCivilWar; it's often implied that should they ever get their act together or a strong enough leader to unify ''all of them'', the heroes would lose handily.
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Neatly satisfies the SlidingScaleOfVillainThreat and SortingAlgorithmOfEvil. Avoids DiminishingVillainThreat, VillainDecay, as there is a logical reason for a bigger bad to replace the current one (although it better not be that SmugSnake ReliableTraitor). You can expect these groups to be easily divided by an EvilPowerVacuum or EnemyCivilWar; it's often implied that should they ever get their act together or a strong enough leader to unify ''all of them'', the heroes would lose handily.

* The [[TheWarOfEarthlyAggression Vagan]] in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'' has a tendency to promote [[PsychicPowers X-Rounder]] [[AcePilot ace pilots]] to high-ranking places in its military. This has on several occasions [[DeconstructedTrope lead to putting people in command of things they aren't nearly qualified enough for]], such as [[PsychoForHire Desil Galette]], a ''[[EnfanteTerrible seven-year-old]]'' given command of a mobile suit squadron despite having all of the mood swings and tantrums that age would imply, and [[TimeSkip later]], his brother [[CharClone Zeheart]], a teenager who somehow keeps [[RankUp climbing the ranks]] despite [[GeneralFailure not once succeeding in a military operation]] and getting many, many subordinates [[SenselessSacrifice needlessly killed]] in the process.
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* The [[TheWarOfEarthlyAggression Vagan]] in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'' has a tendency to promote [[PsychicPowers X-Rounder]] [[AcePilot ace pilots]] to high-ranking places in its military. This has on several occasions [[DeconstructedTrope lead to putting people in command of things they aren't nearly qualified enough for]], such as [[PsychoForHire Desil Galette]], a ''[[EnfanteTerrible ''[[EnfantTerrible seven-year-old]]'' given command of a mobile suit squadron despite having all of the mood swings and tantrums that age would imply, and [[TimeSkip later]], his brother [[CharClone Zeheart]], a teenager who somehow keeps [[RankUp climbing the ranks]] despite [[GeneralFailure not once succeeding in a military operation]] and getting many, many subordinates [[SenselessSacrifice needlessly killed]] in the process.

* [[LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero Saito Hiraga]] invokes this ''beautifully'' in ''FanFic/JusPrimaeNoctis'' when [[spoiler: he storms into the tent with the rebel generals where they’re meeting under truce to negotiate and tells them to sit down, shut up, and surrender to Henrietta or he’ll kill them all.]] They're not technically bound to obey his orders, since they were trying to use this trope and stage a coup, but they submit.
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* [[LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero Saito Hiraga]] invokes this ''beautifully'' in ''FanFic/JusPrimaeNoctis'' when [[spoiler: he storms into the tent with the rebel generals where they’re meeting under truce to negotiate and tells them to sit down, shut up, and surrender to Henrietta or he’ll kill them all.]] all]]. They're not technically bound to obey his orders, since they were trying to use this trope and stage a coup, but they submit.

* In ''Film/JurassicWorld'', the ''Indominus rex'' convinces [[spoiler: Owen's ''Velociraptors'']] to join her side, presumably by discussing her badassery with them. In doing so, she becomes their [[spoiler: new]] Alpha. Owen realises this was possible because ''I. rex'' is part-[[spoiler:raptor.]] Thankfully, he's able to use his ParentalSubstitute status to bring the sisters back to his side.
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* In ''Film/JurassicWorld'', the ''Indominus rex'' convinces [[spoiler: Owen's ''Velociraptors'']] to join her side, presumably by discussing her badassery with them. In doing so, she becomes their [[spoiler: new]] Alpha. Owen realises this was possible because ''I. rex'' is part-[[spoiler:raptor.]] part-[[spoiler:raptor]]. Thankfully, he's able to use his ParentalSubstitute status to bring the sisters back to his side.

* [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in ''Literature/{{Dune}}''. Early on, Paul earns credibility among the Fremen by reluctantly killing one who challenged him to combat. The Fremen, like the Bedouin culture they loosely parallel, have a culture that values "honor," defended through bloodshed. Also, they expect their leaders to succeed by killing their predecessors. Though the Fremen take him for a Messiah and see his leadership as inevitable, he refuses to take the place of the tribe leader Stilgar by killing him. He takes power instead after an impassioned speech deploring the idea of sacrificing a loyal and talented soldier to such a brutal custom. This compels Stilgar to step down, and the Fremen accept Paul's leadership.
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* [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] {{Subverted|Trope}} in ''Literature/{{Dune}}''. Early on, Paul earns credibility among the Fremen by reluctantly killing one who challenged him to combat. The Fremen, like the Bedouin culture they loosely parallel, have a culture that values "honor," defended through bloodshed. Also, they expect their leaders to succeed by killing their predecessors. Though the Fremen take him for a Messiah and see his leadership as inevitable, he refuses to take the place of the tribe leader Stilgar by killing him. He takes power instead after an impassioned speech deploring the idea of sacrificing a loyal and talented soldier to such a brutal custom. This compels Stilgar to step down, and the Fremen accept Paul's leadership.

* In the ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series, in "For the Love of Evil", Hell itself is an interesting subversion. When Satan first takes control, he finds it plays this trope straight. After proving his ability, he re-organizes Hell. Interestingly, his greatest power is the destruction of demons [[spoiler:which in a complete subversion is solely based on the demons belief and not any real ability.]] * In ''Literature/CodexAlera'', Citizenship requires winning a witnessed duel with an existing Citizen, marrying an existing Citizen, or being granted Citizenship by the First Lord, generally for doing something completely awesome. It's largely hereditary, but that's because furycrafting power is largely hereditary. The biggest barrier to peasants who want to become Citizens is that you have to agree to get someone to duel you to earn Citizenship. A lot of women, especially, note that they [[WouldNotHitAGirl can't get anyone to actually fight them]], even if they're fully capable of throwing mountains at the chauvinistic jackasses.
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* In the ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series, in "For the Love of Evil", Hell itself is an interesting subversion. When Satan first takes control, he finds it plays this trope straight. After proving his ability, he re-organizes Hell. Interestingly, his greatest power is the destruction of demons [[spoiler:which in a complete subversion is solely based on the demons belief and not any real ability.]] ability]]. * In ''Literature/CodexAlera'', Citizenship requires winning a witnessed duel with an existing Citizen, marrying an existing Citizen, or being granted Citizenship by the First Lord, generally for doing something completely awesome. It's largely hereditary, but that's because furycrafting power is largely hereditary. The biggest barrier to peasants who want to become Citizens is that you have to agree to get someone to duel you to earn Citizenship. A lot of women, especially, note that they [[WouldNotHitAGirl [[WouldntHitAGirl can't get anyone to actually fight them]], even if they're fully capable of throwing mountains at the chauvinistic jackasses.

* The [[ProudWarriorRace Minotaur]] [[TheEmpire Empire]] in ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'' is all about this trope; anyone can become Emperor so long as they defeat the previous Emperor in a ceremonial (but very real and lethal) duel, and social and legal conflicts are also often solved in the arena. This becomes a plot point in the ''Minotaur Wars'' trilogy where a new Emperor comes to power after a coup, and even though he is a much better leader sizeable chunks of the population won't follow him because he dishonorably assassinated his predecessor rather than formally duelling him. * The leaders of the Holnists in ''Literature/ThePostman''. The Holnists are a gang of CrazySurvivalist social Darwinists, so naturally the men in charge are SuperSoldiers. * In Larry Niven's novel ''Footfall'', the Fithp [[spoiler: ultimately surrender unconditionally to the Humans and join their "herd" after Wes Dawson, aboard the Fithp mothership, overpowers its commander and takes control of it. He then performs a ceremonial gesture of placing his foot on top of the submitting commander's body, becoming the ship's new "Herdmaster".]]
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* The [[ProudWarriorRace [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Minotaur]] [[TheEmpire Empire]] in ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'' is all about this trope; anyone can become Emperor so long as they defeat the previous Emperor in a ceremonial (but very real and lethal) duel, and social and legal conflicts are also often solved in the arena. This becomes a plot point in the ''Minotaur Wars'' trilogy where a new Emperor comes to power after a coup, and even though he is a much better leader sizeable chunks of the population won't follow him because he dishonorably assassinated his predecessor rather than formally duelling him. * The leaders of the Holnists in ''Literature/ThePostman''. The Holnists are a gang of CrazySurvivalist social Darwinists, so naturally the men in charge are SuperSoldiers. {{Super Soldier}}s. * In Larry Niven's novel ''Footfall'', the Fithp [[spoiler: ultimately surrender unconditionally to the Humans and join their "herd" after Wes Dawson, aboard the Fithp mothership, overpowers its commander and takes control of it. He then performs a ceremonial gesture of placing his foot on top of the submitting commander's body, becoming the ship's new "Herdmaster".]]"Herdmaster"]].

* The Nietzscheans of ''Series/{{Andromeda}}'', on account of being a genetically engineered race of SocialDarwinist {{Nietzsche Wannabe}}s, base their society on this principle. The males compete with one another to gain the females' attention and the strongest male in the Pride is the Alpha.
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* The Nietzscheans of ''Series/{{Andromeda}}'', on account of being a genetically engineered race of SocialDarwinist {{Nietzsche Wannabe}}s, [[TheSocialDarwinist Social Darwinist]] [[StrawNihilist Nietzsche Wannabes]], base their society on this principle. The males compete with one another to gain the females' attention and the strongest male in the Pride is the Alpha.

* The Vikings of ''[[{{TabletopGame/FateOfTheNornsRagnarok}} Fate of the Norns: Ragnarok]]'' live in a time when every little problem or power struggle escalates very quickly. As a result, people in power have to be able to kick a lot of ass if they want to stay (case in point: King Erik [=BloodAxe=] murdered almost every single one of his brothers to keep his place).
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* The Vikings of ''[[{{TabletopGame/FateOfTheNornsRagnarok}} ''[[TabletopGame/FateOfTheNornsRagnarok Fate of the Norns: Ragnarok]]'' live in a time when every little problem or power struggle escalates very quickly. As a result, people in power have to be able to kick a lot of ass if they want to stay (case in point: King Erik [=BloodAxe=] murdered almost every single one of his brothers to keep his place).

** In the ''Warlords of Draenor'' expansion, this happens to a LivingLegend reknowned for their ability to take names--[[spoiler:'''''your character''''', who gets put in charge of a garrison established in Shadowmoon Valley (for Alliance) or Frostfire Ridge (for Horde) ''specifically because'' of your personal strength and power, not to mention the people you've helped and the evil mobs you've taken down over the course of playing the game]].
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** In the ''Warlords of Draenor'' expansion, this happens to a LivingLegend reknowned renowned for their ability to take names--[[spoiler:'''''your character''''', who gets put in charge of a garrison established in Shadowmoon Valley (for Alliance) or Frostfire Ridge (for Horde) ''specifically because'' of your personal strength and power, not to mention the people you've helped and the evil mobs you've taken down over the course of playing the game]].

* Creator/{{Nippon Ichi}}verse: Overlords. The title of Overlord of a Netherworld will automatically pass from the defeated to the victor if its possessor is defeated; thus, only the strongest demons (or those who can fool their fellows into thinking they're far stronger than they really are) remain Overlords. ''Anyone'' can become a demon Overlord if he or she kicks enough ass. This (canonically!) happens to Prier from ''LaPucelleTactics'' after she defeats too many demons in the Netherworld. The demons pledge their loyalty to her and declare her to be a Demon Overlord, much to her dismay.
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* Creator/{{Nippon Ichi}}verse: Overlords. The title of Overlord of a Netherworld will automatically pass from the defeated to the victor if its possessor is defeated; thus, only the strongest demons (or those who can fool their fellows into thinking they're far stronger than they really are) remain Overlords. ''Anyone'' can become a demon Overlord if he or she kicks enough ass. This (canonically!) happens to Prier from ''LaPucelleTactics'' ''VideoGame/LaPucelleTactics'' after she defeats too many demons in the Netherworld. The demons pledge their loyalty to her and declare her to be a Demon Overlord, much to her dismay.

** All the crazy stunts that Shepard's original crew members pulled off under him/her finally begin to pay off authority-wise in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' (except for Wrex, who gets his authority in the [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 second game]]): [[spoiler:Ashley/Kaidan is promoted to [[UsefulNotes/CommonRanks Lieutenant-Commander/Major]], respectively, and appointed the second human Spectre (after Shepard), Garrus gets pretty high up within the Turian Hierarchy (high enough that he's saluted by ''generals''), Tali is an Admiral (and that's as high as you can go on the Flotilla), and Liara is the new Shadow Broker (though that was more of a case of YouKillItYouBoughtIt)]]. Partially justified with [[spoiler:Garrus. His rank was normally basically decorative. However, he's the one who knows most about Reapers, so he ''becomes'' very high-rank when they invade.]]
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** All the crazy stunts that Shepard's original crew members pulled off under him/her finally begin to pay off authority-wise in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' (except for Wrex, who gets his authority in the [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 second game]]): [[spoiler:Ashley/Kaidan is promoted to [[UsefulNotes/CommonRanks Lieutenant-Commander/Major]], respectively, and appointed the second human Spectre (after Shepard), Garrus gets pretty high up within the Turian Hierarchy (high enough that he's saluted by ''generals''), Tali is an Admiral (and that's as high as you can go on the Flotilla), and Liara is the new Shadow Broker (though that was more of a case of YouKillItYouBoughtIt)]]. Partially justified with [[spoiler:Garrus. His rank was normally basically decorative. However, he's the one who knows most about Reapers, so he ''becomes'' very high-rank when they invade.]]invade]].

* In the ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights2: VideoGame/MaskOfTheBetrayer'' expansion pack, the player can [[spoiler:become the Jarl, or leader, of a tribe of Frost Giants by competing in a trial of strength, namely that whoever's the last man standing and holding the crown, they become the head. The player can even take this to extreme lengths by throwing all the Frost Giants out of the tribe and exiling them.]]
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* In the ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights2: VideoGame/MaskOfTheBetrayer'' expansion pack, the player can [[spoiler:become the Jarl, or leader, of a tribe of Frost Giants by competing in a trial of strength, namely that whoever's the last man standing and holding the crown, they become the head. The player can even take this to extreme lengths by throwing all the Frost Giants out of the tribe and exiling them.]]them]].

* Codified into rule in the ''Book of Mages'' games. When the old Great Mage dies, an "election" is held, and whatever mage can defeat all challengers is elected Great Mage. In ''[[VideoGame/BookOfMagesTheDarkTimes The Dark Times]]'', [[DeconstructedTrope this system breaks down]]; [[spoiler: the [[PraetorianGuard Black Robes]] hold an election among themselves and refuse to allow non-Black Robes to participate, while the [[LaResistance White Robes]] expressly reject the system, and their senior members elect a White Mage based on his reputation. A faction of neutral mages, who hold to the letter of the law, attempt to uphold the rules against whoever wins the war and play the trope straight.]]
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* Codified into rule in the ''Book of Mages'' games. When the old Great Mage dies, an "election" is held, and whatever mage can defeat all challengers is elected Great Mage. In ''[[VideoGame/BookOfMagesTheDarkTimes The Dark Times]]'', [[DeconstructedTrope this system breaks down]]; [[spoiler: the [[PraetorianGuard Black Robes]] hold an election among themselves and refuse to allow non-Black Robes to participate, while the [[LaResistance White Robes]] expressly reject the system, and their senior members elect a White Mage based on his reputation. A faction of neutral mages, who hold to the letter of the law, attempt to uphold the rules against whoever wins the war and play the trope straight.]]straight]].

* Winning the King of Iron Fist Tournament gives you complete control of the Mishima-Zaibatsu in ''{{Tekken}}''.
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* Winning the King of Iron Fist Tournament gives you complete control of the Mishima-Zaibatsu in ''{{Tekken}}''.''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}''.

* In ''VideoGame/{{Xenonauts}}'', soldiers are promoted to higher ranks based on the number of skill upgrades they achieve through training. And since the training consists solely of killing [[Main/AlienInvasion alien invaders]]...
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Xenonauts}}'', soldiers are promoted to higher ranks based on the number of skill upgrades they achieve through training. And since the training consists solely of killing [[Main/AlienInvasion [[AlienInvasion alien invaders]]...


* The ''[[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003 TMNT]]'' episode "The People's Choice" involves two aliens whose electoral process involves combat with the current ruler. Donatello remarks that our electoral process is more peaceful, with Raphael adding "[[CrowningMomentOfFunny most of the time]]."
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* The ''[[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003 TMNT]]'' episode "The People's Choice" involves two aliens whose electoral process involves combat with the current ruler. Donatello remarks that the way we choose our electoral process leader is more peaceful, with Raphael adding "[[CrowningMomentOfFunny most of the time]]."

* ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' Man-Ape became king of Wakanda by killing Black Panthers father(he cheated).
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' Man-Ape became king of Wakanda by killing Black Panthers father(he Panther's father (he cheated).

** Adolf Hitler won an Iron Cross First Class and an Iron Cross Second Class during the First World War. Having those decorations helped to give him the confidence to stand up to the generals during the Second World War.
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** Adolf Hitler UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler won an Iron Cross First Class and an Iron Cross Second Class during the First World War. Having those decorations helped to give him the confidence to stand up to the generals during the Second World War.


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4th Dec '15 9:25:34 AM CaptEquinox
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* Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath's ''Star Trek'' TOS writings are all about this. Especially in ''The Prometheus Design'' wherein we learn that Spock has been living in a [[WorldOfCardboardSpeech cardboard world]] all these years. Vulcan superiority is their obsessive AuthorAppeal.
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* Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath's ''Star Trek'' TOS writings are all about this. Especially in ''The ''[[http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/638679747?book_show_action=true&from_review_page=1 The Prometheus Design'' Design]]'' wherein we learn that Spock has been living in a [[WorldOfCardboardSpeech cardboard world]] all these years. Vulcan superiority is their obsessive AuthorAppeal.
29th Nov '15 1:22:28 PM DavidCowie
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* Two examples from Nazi Germany: ** Adolf Hitler won an Iron Cross First Class and an Iron Cross Second Class during the First World War. Having those decorations helped to give him the confidence to stand up to the generals during the Second World War. ** Hermann Goering's main qualification for being in charge of the Luftwaffe was that he had been a successful fighter pilot in the First World War. However, the skills required to lead a small group into combat are not the same as those required to lead a large organisation.
27th Nov '15 5:18:52 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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Allies can't drive in the first game.
** Even the gameplay mechanics have an amusing example, as every entry after ''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved'' lets the player switch whatever weapon they have with whatever weapon almost any allied NPC has, and even the first game lets you snatch vehicles from your allies ([[ArtificialStupidity once you can get them to stop driving straight into plasma mortars, anyways]]).
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** Even the gameplay mechanics have an amusing example, as every entry after ''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved'' lets the player switch whatever weapon they have with whatever weapon almost any allied NPC has, and even the first game lets as well as allows you to snatch vehicles from your allies ([[ArtificialStupidity once you can get them to stop driving straight into plasma mortars, anyways]]).
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