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19th May '17 10:03:17 AM BeerBaron
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** In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', there are a few guilds and factions which operate on this, but in particular is Great House Telvanni. It's a faction of mostly {{Evil Sorcerer}}s who strongly believe in MightMakesRight and allow KlingonPromotion as a perfectly legal means of increasing your status within the house. [[spoiler: As part of the main quest, in order to be named Telvanni Hortator, you're allowed to simply kill every councilor except for the one needed to actually name your Hortator, and wisely, [[GenreSavvy that councilor will give you his vote with no strings attached]]. (If you're a member of the House, you can even kill him and declare ''yourself'' Hortator as the highest ranking Telvanni left alive.)]]
** In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', this is how dragon hierarchy works. If there's a question of pecking order, a fight ensues. A dragon either wins, submits, or dies. [[spoiler:[[BigBad Alduin]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast the World Eater]], supposedly the mightiest of all dragons, runs away like a DirtyCoward after the [[PlayerCharacter Dragonborn]] beat him the first time, claiming he's going to gorge himself on souls of the recently dead in Sovngarde. This flight is what causes a number of dragons to question Alduin's lordship, and one of them to actually defect to your side. After you destroy Alduin for good, you get a scene of all the dragons bowing to your supremacy]].

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** Throughout the series, this is the case for the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orcs]] (or [[OurElvesAreBetter Orsimer]]). They are a ProudWarriorRace with numerous BloodKnight and DeathSeeker qualities, with Malacath, the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Prince]] of the Spurned and Ostracized as their chief deity. Malacath encourages this behavior in the Orcs, ensuring that the best warriors within a tribe are acting as chieftains. As shown by his quest in ''Skyrim'', Malacath isn't above taking a more hands on approach when a weak Orc chieftain goes unchallenged by his tribe.
** In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', there are a few guilds and factions which operate on this, but in particular is Great House Telvanni. It's a faction of mostly {{Evil Sorcerer}}s who strongly believe in MightMakesRight and allow KlingonPromotion as a perfectly legal means of increasing your status within the house. [[spoiler: As part of the main quest, in order to be named Telvanni Hortator, you're allowed to simply kill every councilor except for the one needed to actually name your Hortator, and wisely, [[GenreSavvy that councilor will give you his vote with no strings attached]]. (If you're a member of the House, you can even kill him and declare ''yourself'' Hortator as the highest ranking Telvanni left alive.)]]
** In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', this is how dragon hierarchy works. If there's a question of pecking order, a fight ensues. A dragon either wins, submits, or dies. [[spoiler:[[BigBad Alduin]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast the World Eater]], supposedly the mightiest of all dragons, runs away like a DirtyCoward after the [[PlayerCharacter Dragonborn]] beat him the first time, claiming he's going to gorge himself on souls of the recently dead in Sovngarde. This flight is what causes a number of dragons to question Alduin's lordship, and one of them to actually defect to your side. After you destroy Alduin for good, you get a scene of all the dragons bowing to your supremacy]].
10th May '17 12:23:20 PM GlassRain
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* ''Webcomic/GuildedAge'': A common trend with several races of the World's Rebellion, particularly the trolls and the landsharks.
1st May '17 8:13:46 AM Orbiting
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Neatly satisfies the SlidingScaleOfVillainThreat and SortingAlgorithmOfEvil. Avoids VillainDecay, as there is a logical reason for a bigger bad to replace the current one (although it better not be that SmugSnake ReliableTraitor). You can expect these groups to be easily divided by an EvilPowerVacuum or EnemyCivilWar; it's often implied that should they ever get their act together or a strong enough leader to unify ''all of them'', the heroes would lose handily.

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Neatly satisfies the SlidingScaleOfVillainThreat and SortingAlgorithmOfEvil. Avoids VillainDecay, as there is a logical reason for a bigger bad to replace the current one (although it better not be that SmugSnake ReliableTraitor).SmugSnake). You can expect these groups to be easily divided by an EvilPowerVacuum or EnemyCivilWar; it's often implied that should they ever get their act together or a strong enough leader to unify ''all of them'', the heroes would lose handily.
4th Apr '17 12:57:49 PM cherrychels
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** Jon Snow is elected Lord Commander of the Night's Watch for his fighting prowess and leadership rather than his seniority. Likewise, it's partly his battle prowess that lead the Northerners to [[spoiler:proclaim him king]] alongside [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking his knowledge and experience]] with the [[GreaterScopeVillain true war]] [[ZombieApocalypse to come]][[http://deadline.com/2016/08/game-of-thrones-david-benioff-d-b-weiss-emmys-interview-1201803698/]], despite his being an [[HeroicBastard illegitimate son]]]].

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** Jon Snow is elected Lord Commander of the Night's Watch for his fighting prowess and leadership rather than his seniority. Likewise, it's partly his battle prowess that lead the Northerners to [[spoiler:proclaim him king]] alongside [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking his knowledge and experience]] with the [[GreaterScopeVillain true war]] [[ZombieApocalypse to come]][[http://deadline.com/2016/08/game-of-thrones-david-benioff-d-b-weiss-emmys-interview-1201803698/]], king]], despite his being an [[HeroicBastard illegitimate son]]]].son]], alongside [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking his capabilities to lead them through]] the [[GreaterScopeVillain true war]] [[GreaterScopeVillain to come]][[http://deadline.com/2016/08/game-of-thrones-david-benioff-d-b-weiss-emmys-interview-1201803698/]] based on his direct knowledge, experience and recognition of the true threat.
4th Apr '17 12:46:53 PM cherrychels
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* ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'' has this. The organization that Claymores work for only has forty-seven Claymores active at any one time. If a Claymore dies, all the Claymores below her are automatically promoted one rank - and if a new Claymore is powerful enough to take a higher rank than #47, all the Claymores weaker than her are automatically demoted. Of course, while Asskicking Equals Authority applies to Claymores while they're on missions, the ones who are actually in charge of the organization seem to have no physical power at all.

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* ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'' has this. The organization that Claymores work for only has forty-seven Claymores active at any one time. If a Claymore dies, all the Claymores below her are automatically promoted one rank - -- and if a new Claymore is powerful enough to take a higher rank than #47, all the Claymores weaker than her are automatically demoted. Of course, while Asskicking Equals Authority applies to Claymores while they're on missions, the ones who are actually in charge of the organization seem to have no physical power at all.



* The Sand Masters of ''ComicBook/WhiteSand'' have based their entire FantasticRankSystem on this - the more powerful the Sand Master, the higher he or she is in the diem, with Underfens being run-of-the-mill magic users and Mastrells - {{One Man Arm|y}}ies.

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* The Sand Masters of ''ComicBook/WhiteSand'' have based their entire FantasticRankSystem on this - -- the more powerful the Sand Master, the higher he or she is in the diem, with Underfens being run-of-the-mill magic users and Mastrells - -- {{One Man Arm|y}}ies.



* On a less malevolent scale, the Mandalorians also have a tradition of following their leaders based upon this trope. Whenever Mandalore dies (given the nature of their culture, this usually happens in battle), the strongest remaining warrior becomes the new Mandalore. This has been happening for over twenty thousand years. More specifically, the strongest warriors fight over Mandalore's helmet. If there's no helmet, there's no fighting, and no new Mandalore. ''[[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicII KOTOR 2]]'' pointed out how ridiculous this is--Revan managed to deal the death blow to the Mandalorian people basically by just killing Mandalore and ''taking the helmet with him when he left''. Later, they fixed that. Now either the current Mandalore chooses a successor (the person he or she feels is best fit to lead), or it's the guy who can get the most people the follow him. The second one happens if the Mandalore fails to name a successor before he dies.

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* On a less malevolent scale, the Mandalorians also have a tradition of following their leaders based upon this trope. Whenever Mandalore dies (given the nature of their culture, this usually happens in battle), the strongest remaining warrior becomes the new Mandalore. This has been happening for over twenty thousand years. More specifically, the strongest warriors fight over Mandalore's helmet. If there's no helmet, there's no fighting, and no new Mandalore. ''[[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicII KOTOR 2]]'' pointed out how ridiculous this is--Revan is -- Revan managed to deal the death blow to the Mandalorian people basically by just killing Mandalore and ''taking the helmet with him when he left''. Later, they fixed that. Now either the current Mandalore chooses a successor (the person he or she feels is best fit to lead), or it's the guy who can get the most people the follow him. The second one happens if the Mandalore fails to name a successor before he dies.



** Even in the Seven Kingdoms where people do respect birth and rank, Jaime Lannister fears what will happen to his authority if people realize he can barely wipe his own ass anymore.
** Since the Unsullied are said to know nothing but combat, it's implied they would only elect their best fighter as leader, and Grey Worm certainly proves his prowess.
** Jon Snow is elected Lord Commander of the Night's Watch for his fighting prowess and leadership rather than his seniority. Likewise, it's mostly his battle prowess that leads the Northerners to crown him king, despite his being a bastard.

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** Even in the Seven Kingdoms where people do respect birth lineage and rank, Jaime Lannister fears what will happen to his authority if people realize he can barely wipe his own ass anymore.
** Since the Unsullied are said to know nothing but combat, it's implied they would only elect their best fighter as leader, leader and Grey Worm certainly proves his prowess.
** Jon Snow is elected Lord Commander of the Night's Watch for his fighting prowess and leadership rather than his seniority. Likewise, it's mostly partly his battle prowess that leads lead the Northerners to crown [[spoiler:proclaim him king, king]] alongside [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking his knowledge and experience]] with the [[GreaterScopeVillain true war]] [[ZombieApocalypse to come]][[http://deadline.com/2016/08/game-of-thrones-david-benioff-d-b-weiss-emmys-interview-1201803698/]], despite his being a bastard.an [[HeroicBastard illegitimate son]]]].
4th Apr '17 12:32:13 PM gb00393
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** Jon Snow is elected Lord Commander of the Night's Watch for his fighting prowess and leadership rather than his seniority.

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** Jon Snow is elected Lord Commander of the Night's Watch for his fighting prowess and leadership rather than his seniority. Likewise, it's mostly his battle prowess that leads the Northerners to crown him king, despite his being a bastard.
28th Mar '17 6:57:08 PM nombretomado
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* The Yamani Empire from ''OpenBlue''.

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* The Yamani Empire from ''OpenBlue''.''Roleplay/OpenBlue''.
18th Mar '17 10:25:53 PM JackG
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** This becomes a DiscussedTrope when King Robert fears the Dothraki might invade under the command of Prince Viserys. Although they lack the knowledge and equipment for siege warfare, Robert points out that if they hide in their castles while the Dothraki lay waste to the country, the smallfolk will view them as cowardly and hail Viserys as king instead.
15th Mar '17 11:34:30 PM merotoker
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* The rank of queen in ''Literature/Branded'' by Clare London is determined by a war game-style generalship competition.

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* The rank of queen in ''Literature/Branded'' ''Literature/{{Branded}}'' by Clare London is determined by a war game-style generalship competition.



* Invoked in ''Literature/WingsOfFire''. The only way for a princess to become queen is to challenge and kill the current ruler in combat. They only get one try, since it's a fight to the death. Daughters, sisters, and nieces of the queen can do this.
** However, the [[ActualPacifist RainWing]] tribe doesn't do this; instead, they compete for the throne in non-violent sport.

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* Invoked in ''Literature/WingsOfFire''. The only way for a princess to become queen is to challenge and kill the current ruler in combat. They only get one try, since it's a fight to the death. Daughters, sisters, and nieces of the queen can do this. \n** However, the [[ActualPacifist RainWing]] tribe doesn't do this; instead, they compete for the throne in non-violent sport.



* Garnet from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is easily the strongest out of the Chrystal Gems, and the unofficial leader of the team. [[TheStoic She doesn't talk much]], but when she does, everyone listens. Her [[{{Seer}} future vision]] often guides the Gems around/away from danger. All of the Gems make suggestions about what to do, but most of the time it's Garnet who makes the final decision.

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* Garnet from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is easily the strongest out of the Chrystal Gems, and the unofficial leader of the team. [[TheStoic She doesn't talk much]], but when she does, everyone listens. Her [[{{Seer}} [[{{Seers}} future vision]] often guides the Gems around/away from danger. All of the Gems make suggestions about what to do, but most of the time it's Garnet who makes the final decision.



* Americans seem to ''love'' electing U.S. Presidents who were war heroes. UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington is the UrExample here, with UsefulNotes/DwightEisenhower being a more modern example. Others notable Presidents who fought in wars were UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson and UsefulNotes/UlyssesSGrant, and UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_military_service A full list of Presidents' military service is here.]]

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* Americans seem to ''love'' electing U.S. Presidents who were war heroes. UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington is the UrExample here, with UsefulNotes/DwightEisenhower UsefulNotes/DwightDEisenhower being a more modern example. Others notable Presidents who fought in wars were UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson and UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson, UsefulNotes/UlyssesSGrant, and UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_military_service A full list of Presidents' military service is here.]]
14th Mar '17 6:35:16 PM bobwolf
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** In the sequel ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'', the apes continue to believe in following the strongest. [[spoiler: Caesar is forced to fight Koba to retake leadership after Koba's failed assassination attempt.

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** In the sequel ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'', the apes continue to believe in following the strongest. [[spoiler: Caesar is forced to fight Koba to retake leadership after Koba's failed assassination attempt.]]
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