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2nd Aug '16 4:34:09 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''Series/{{Angel}}'' wanted to be this.
** From that series and its [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer parent series]], Spike arguably became this as he voluntarily chose to have his soul restored (whereas Angel's was forced upon him and always forced back in unwillingly when he loses it). The comic continuation of the series further reinforces this: vampires (apart from the ensouled Spike and Angel) are established to be AlwaysChaoticEvil due to a lack of a soul but after temporarily losing his own soul, Spike ''remains good'' and only does not take his soul back (initially) because he wanted to give it to someone else.

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* ''Series/{{Angel}}'' ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' and ''Series/{{Angel}}'':
** Angel
wanted to be this.
** From that series and its [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer parent series]], Spike arguably became this as he voluntarily chose to have his soul restored (whereas Angel's was forced upon him and always forced back in unwillingly when he loses it). The comic continuation of the series further reinforces this: vampires (apart from the ensouled Spike and Angel) are established to be AlwaysChaoticEvil due to a lack of a soul but after temporarily losing his own soul, Spike ''remains good'' and only does not take his soul back (initially) because he wanted to give it to someone else.
2nd Aug '16 4:33:09 PM CaptainCrawdad
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** This is the attitude of any warlock (a practitioner of Black Magic) who tries to become a wizard (a practitioner of good magic); Black Magic gets you DrunkOnTheDarkSide extremely easily, and even if the warlock has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone and tries to reform, it's all too easy to slip back into it. As such, very few warlocks are able to reform, and while this is partly because the White Council executes ''anyone'' (even teenagers who genuinely don't know what they're doing) who performs Black Magic unless a member of the Council puts his own life on the line to mentor the warlock into becoming a proper wizard, it is suggested that reformed warlocks would be pretty rare even without the summary executions. Harry Dresden himself is one such reformed warlock, and even though he only performed Black Magic once in self defence when he was a kid, he fully recognises the ease of recidivism and, much as he despises the Council's arrogance and self-righteousness, he has to concede that in the majority of cases their policy is probably necessary. However, when he truly believes the accidental warlock [[spoiler: Molly Carpenter]] has a chance of reforming, he fights tooth and nail to give her that chance.
12th Jul '16 1:07:59 AM TheCuza
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', a sidequest involves Link helping a demon named Batreaux who wants to become human.

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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', a sidequest involves Link helping a demon named Batreaux who wants to become human.human, because he is very lonely, and people are too terrified of his appearance for him to make friends.
25th Jun '16 4:30:39 PM nombretomado
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* The player character in ''BaldursGate'' is eventually revealed to be (one of many) children of Bhaal, the late God of Murder. As the series goes on, both the Bhaalspawn part of you and other characters try to get you to embrace your heritage and become a proper successor to the lord of murder (even to the point of giving you a SuperpoweredEvilSide that drains your Reputation every time you use it.) It's up the player whether they actually do this, or fight on the side of good instead.

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* The player character in ''BaldursGate'' ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' is eventually revealed to be (one of many) children of Bhaal, the late God of Murder. As [[Franchise/BaldursGate the series series]] goes on, both the Bhaalspawn part of you and other characters try to get you to embrace your heritage and become a proper successor to the lord of murder (even to the point of giving you a SuperpoweredEvilSide that drains your Reputation every time you use it.) It's up the player whether they actually do this, or fight on the side of good instead.
19th Jun '16 2:12:56 AM Doug86
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* In the first appearance of Necron in ''Comicbook/GreenLantern'', one of his minions demonstrates great courage and disagrees with his boss' invasion of the living universe. He "ascends" to become a Green Lantern that's free of Necron's influence.

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* In the first appearance of Necron in ''Comicbook/GreenLantern'', ''Franchise/GreenLantern'', one of his minions demonstrates great courage and disagrees with his boss' invasion of the living universe. He "ascends" to become a Green Lantern that's free of Necron's influence.
7th Jun '16 7:43:53 AM MarqFJA
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* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}: This is one theory in-universe for the ultimate goal of [[MeaningfulName Fallen Angel Cypher, formerly of the Dark Angels Space Marines legion]]. On the tabletop he's been able to fight for both chaos and the emperor, and in the lore one conjecture for his cutting a path through the imperium towards holy terra is that he plans to return the [[ReforgedBlade Sword of his former Primarch]] to the Emperor as a token of forgiveness and cease to be a Fallen Angel.

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* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}: ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': This is one theory in-universe for the ultimate goal of [[MeaningfulName Fallen Angel Cypher, formerly of the Dark Angels Space Marines legion]]. On the tabletop he's been able to fight for both chaos and the emperor, and in the lore one conjecture for his cutting a path through the imperium towards holy terra is that he plans to return the [[ReforgedBlade Sword of his former Primarch]] to the Emperor as a token of forgiveness and cease to be a Fallen Angel.
7th Jun '16 7:43:39 AM MarqFJA
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* This is one theory [[Franchise/{{Warhammer40000}} in universe]] for the ultimate goal of [[MeaningfulName Fallen Angel Cypher, formerly of the Dark Angels Space Marines legion]]. On the tabletop he's been able to fight for both chaos and the emperor, and in the lore one conjecture for his cutting a path through the imperium towards holy terra is that he plans to return the [[ReforgedBlade Sword of his former Primarch]] to the Emperor as a token of forgiveness and cease to be a Fallen Angel.

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* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}: This is one theory [[Franchise/{{Warhammer40000}} in universe]] in-universe for the ultimate goal of [[MeaningfulName Fallen Angel Cypher, formerly of the Dark Angels Space Marines legion]]. On the tabletop he's been able to fight for both chaos and the emperor, and in the lore one conjecture for his cutting a path through the imperium towards holy terra is that he plans to return the [[ReforgedBlade Sword of his former Primarch]] to the Emperor as a token of forgiveness and cease to be a Fallen Angel.
27th Apr '16 2:41:18 PM LadyJaneGrey
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** One of the (many) nicknames for TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'s Lady of Pain is "The fiend of blades", started by someone with the theory she is an ascended fiend. Given that he wasn't [[DeaderThanDead flayed]] (like people who give... less than flattering nicknames) and lived long enough to die of natural causes, this indicates there isn't really an issue with the term.
*** In ''Pages of Pain'' she remembered being a daughter of [[spoiler:Akadi and Poseidon and Set's fiance]]. That is, Lady is a born Power, has the Pain sphere/domain as a gift and would be a goddess if she didn't refuse to.
** In [[http://www.candlekeep.com/compendium/index.htm The Candlekeep Compendium]], there is a certain Erinyes [[spoiler: who is rescued by a gnome adventurer as a mission from a ChaoticGood deity.]]
*** There was a chant about the agathinon Janarr and erinyes Nalura working in mortal disguise on the Prime. They [[DuelOfSeduction sort of]] just did their jobs--she tried to seduce him, he tried to turn her attitude up to [[ThePowerOfLove celestial standards]]. Before they knew whom exactly they faced, ''both'' succeeded. They [[StarCrossedLovers had to hide from their respective bosses]] from that point on, though. (Note that the story never explicitly states that Nalura shifted in alignment as a result of falling in love. Most fans just ''assume'' such.)

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** One of the (many) nicknames for TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'s Lady of Pain is "The fiend of blades", started by someone with the theory she is an ascended fiend. Given that he wasn't [[DeaderThanDead flayed]] (like people who give... less than flattering nicknames) and lived long enough to die of natural causes, this indicates there isn't really an issue with the term. \n*** In (In ''Pages of Pain'' she remembered being a daughter of [[spoiler:Akadi and Poseidon and Set's fiance]]. That is, Lady is a born Power, has the Pain sphere/domain as a gift and would be a goddess if she didn't refuse to.
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** In [[http://www.candlekeep.com/compendium/index.htm The Candlekeep Compendium]], there is a certain Erinyes [[spoiler: who is rescued by a gnome adventurer as a mission from a ChaoticGood deity.]]
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]] There was a chant about the agathinon Janarr and erinyes Nalura working in mortal disguise on the Prime. They [[DuelOfSeduction sort of]] just did their jobs--she tried to seduce him, he tried to turn her attitude up to [[ThePowerOfLove celestial standards]]. Before they knew whom exactly they faced, ''both'' succeeded. They [[StarCrossedLovers had to hide from their respective bosses]] from that point on, though. (Note that the story never explicitly states that Nalura shifted in alignment as a result of falling in love. Most fans just ''assume'' such.)



** Another succubus example, Eludecia the Succubus Paladin, who is featured prominently in the 3rd Edition Module ''The Legend of the Silver Skeleton''. A succubus who reformed after falling in love with a celestial lord, she took up armor and sword and fought other demons as a paladin. But she made too many enemies, eventually falling victim to the cruel marilith Aishpara. Eludecia was beaten, but not killed; Aishpara used a powerful spell that stripped her to the bone and then turned said bones to silver, placing the skeleton inside a gelatinous cube. This resulted in poor Eludecia's body [[AndIMustScream continually regenerating and dissolving]] until, hopefully, she is rescued by the {{Player Character}}s in the storyline.

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** Another succubus example, Eludecia the Succubus Paladin, who is featured prominently in the 3rd Edition Module ''The Legend of the Silver Skeleton''. A succubus who reformed after falling in love with a celestial lord, she took up armor and sword and fought other demons as a paladin. But she made too many enemies, eventually falling victim to the cruel marilith Aishpara. Aishpara, general of a powerful balor. Eludecia was beaten, but not killed; Aishpara used a powerful spell that [[StrippedToTheBone stripped her to the bone bone]] and then turned said bones to silver, placing the skeleton inside a gelatinous cube. This resulted in Due to her Ring of Regeneration, poor Eludecia's couldn't die, her body [[AndIMustScream continually regenerating and dissolving]] until, and [[BadassInDistress trapped in a sealed catacombs until]], hopefully, she is rescued by the {{Player Character}}s in the storyline.



* Ashrah from ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' is a demon, formerly from the LegionsOfHell, who gets betrayed and has a HeelFaceTurn in regards to BlackAndWhiteMorality. She comes across a sword that purifies her, every time she slays a demon with it. She becomes a WomanInWhite. Her plan is to gain enough purification that the evil or taint that resided in her demonic creation no longer exists, to the point of the Netherrealm (Hell) being UNABLE to keep her presence inside, for you cannot exist in that realm without a taint on the soul. The idea is that she'll eventually be expelled out of that fiery wasteland. The problem though? She's turned a bit KnightTemplar, or AxCrazy because of this obsession.
** Granted, it's still unclear whether any of this is actually happening, or if the Kris is just a ManipulativeBastard of an EmpathicWeapon that's making her think killing certain targets will save her soul in order to make her into its instrument of genocide.
*** Her ending in one of the games reveal that the Kris really works, but the rate of purification is proportional to the evilness and power of the target. Also, once the user is ascended (and safely expelled from the Netherrealm), the sword stays behind to repeat the process for another demon.

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* Ashrah from ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' is a demon, formerly from the LegionsOfHell, who gets betrayed and has a HeelFaceTurn in regards to BlackAndWhiteMorality. She comes across a sword that purifies her, every time she slays a demon with it. She becomes a WomanInWhite. Her plan is to gain enough purification that the evil or taint that resided in her demonic creation no longer exists, to the point of the Netherrealm (Hell) being UNABLE to keep her presence inside, for you cannot exist in that realm without a taint on the soul. The idea is that she'll eventually be expelled out of that fiery wasteland. The problem though? She's turned a bit KnightTemplar, or AxCrazy because of this obsession.
** Granted,
obsession. (Granted, it's still unclear whether any of this is actually happening, or if the Kris is just a ManipulativeBastard of an EmpathicWeapon that's making her think killing certain targets will save her soul in order to make her into its instrument of genocide.
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genocide. Her ending in one of the games reveal that the Kris really works, but the rate of purification is proportional to the evilness and power of the target. Also, once the user is ascended (and safely expelled from the Netherrealm), the sword stays behind to repeat the process for another demon.)
27th Apr '16 1:07:24 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* The ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' sourcebook "Book of Exalted Deeds" on good-aligned characters has one chapter on forgiveness. It features an orc chieftain sparing a girl's village because she had saved his life years earlier and a good-aligned [[{{Cthulhumanoid}} illithid]].

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* The ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''
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sourcebook "Book of Exalted Deeds" on good-aligned characters has one chapter on forgiveness. It features an orc chieftain sparing a girl's village because she had saved his life years earlier and a good-aligned [[{{Cthulhumanoid}} illithid]].


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** Another succubus example, Eludecia the Succubus Paladin, who is featured prominently in the 3rd Edition Module ''The Legend of the Silver Skeleton''. A succubus who reformed after falling in love with a celestial lord, she took up armor and sword and fought other demons as a paladin. But she made too many enemies, eventually falling victim to the cruel marilith Aishpara. Eludecia was beaten, but not killed; Aishpara used a powerful spell that stripped her to the bone and then turned said bones to silver, placing the skeleton inside a gelatinous cube. This resulted in poor Eludecia's body [[AndIMustScream continually regenerating and dissolving]] until, hopefully, she is rescued by the {{Player Character}}s in the storyline.
17th Apr '16 10:57:08 PM jormis29
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** In {{Disgaea5}}, this is the net objective of Ultimate Demon Technique, invented by Goldion and mastered by [[spoiler: Killia, and in post game Void]]. Subverted because both a noble heart and sufficient power are required to master it. This is why Zeroken can't use the high level techniques and Liezerota can't use it at all.

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** In {{Disgaea5}}, ''VideoGame/Disgaea5'', this is the net objective of Ultimate Demon Technique, invented by Goldion and mastered by [[spoiler: Killia, and in post game Void]]. Subverted because both a noble heart and sufficient power are required to master it. This is why Zeroken can't use the high level techniques and Liezerota can't use it at all.
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