History Main / AppealToObscurity

22nd Nov '17 7:36:16 AM garthvader
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Not to be confused with the kind of appeal to obscurity that hipsters use, i.e. "popular music is all crap, so bands no one's ever heard of must be good." That is an inverse version of the appeal to popularity.

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Not to be confused with the kind of appeal to obscurity that hipsters use, i.e. "popular music is all crap, so bands no one's ever heard of must be good." That is an inverse version of the appeal to popularity.
popularity called Appeal to Minority.
19th Nov '17 12:35:50 AM garthvader
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It also doesn't consider that some occupations (like espionage or smuggling) ''require'' obscurity in order to work. If a spy becomes famous, then he screwed up.
19th Nov '17 12:34:54 AM garthvader
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Not to be confused with the kind of appeal to obscurity that hipsters use, i.e. "popular music is all crap, so bands no one's ever heard of must be good." This is, in fact, the exact opposite.

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Not to be confused with the kind of appeal to obscurity that hipsters use, i.e. "popular music is all crap, so bands no one's ever heard of must be good." That is an inverse version of the appeal to popularity.

!!! Looks like this fallacy but is not:

*The opponent's initial claim is based on the thing in question being famous, important or influential, but it can be shown that it is in fact obscure, unimportant or a historical flash in the pan.
This is, in fact, the exact opposite.argument often comes up when discussing things commonly credited as "the first example of thing X."
11th Nov '17 11:07:23 AM thatother1dude
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--> '''Ivanís son:''' '' "Why are we waiting here? It was a success! The public loved it, they gave an standing ovation!" ''
--> '''Ivan:''' '' "They also gave an standing ovation at the premiere of 'Microheaven' "'' .
--> '''Ivanís son:''' '' "Of what?"''
--> '''Ivan:''' '' "Exactly"''.

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--> '''Ivanís son:''' '' "Why Why are we waiting here? It was a success! The public loved it, they gave an standing ovation!" ''
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'''Ivan:''' '' "They They also gave an standing ovation at the premiere of 'Microheaven' "'' .
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'''Ivanís son:''' '' "Of what?"''
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Of what?\\
'''Ivan:''' '' "Exactly"''.Exactly.
4th Nov '17 8:12:46 AM Nadim
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-->'''Dad:''' You can't cancel on Coller. The last band to cancel interviews with this was The Happy Teens.
-->'''Kevin:''' Who?

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-->'''Dad:''' You can't cancel on Coller. The last band to cancel interviews with this guy was The Happy Teens.
-->'''Kevin:''' -->'''Joe, Nick and Kevin:''' Who?
13th Oct '17 4:14:21 AM jormis29
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* In ''Mr. 3000'', Stan Ross warns budding superstar Rex Pennebaker that if he doesn't support his team, he'll end up standing at the end of his career next to "Big Horse" Borelli. When Pennebaker asks "Who?", Ross says "exactly." "Big Horse" Borelli was the obscure no-name player who was the only one of Stan's former teammates willing to speak at Ross's tribute ceremony earlier in the film.

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* In ''Mr. 3000'', ''Film/Mr3000'', Stan Ross warns budding superstar Rex Pennebaker that if he doesn't support his team, he'll end up standing at the end of his career next to "Big Horse" Borelli. When Pennebaker asks "Who?", Ross says "exactly." "Big Horse" Borelli was the obscure no-name player who was the only one of Stan's former teammates willing to speak at Ross's tribute ceremony earlier in the film.
30th Sep '17 5:49:26 PM TudorRose
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* ''Series/ILoveLucy'': In "The Benefit", Ethel expresses her disappointment that Lucy will be performing at her club benefit instead of Ricky.
-->'''Ethel''': It's like expecting Creator/ClarkGable and getting Hubert Grimstadt.
-->'''Lucy''': Hubert Grimstadt? I never heard of him.
-->'''Ethel''': Exactly!
17th Sep '17 8:39:15 AM Nadim
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* ''Series/{{Jonas}}'': Used by the boys' father in "Forgetting Stella's Birthday".
-->'''Dad:''' You can't cancel on Coller. The last band to cancel interviews with this was The Happy Teens.
-->'''Kevin:''' Who?
-->'''Dad:''' Exactly.


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* ''Series/{{Phil Of The Future}}'': Lloyd says this after he found out the family being stuck in the past was a {{Necessary Fail}}.
-->'''Lloyd:''' Holy cow!!!! If Phil hadn't messed aroud with the controls, we would have been stuck in a massive timestorm!!! Like what happened to the Jabensons on their time travel!!!
-->'''Phil:''' Who are the Jabensons?
-->'''Lloyd:''' Exactly.


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* On ''Series/{{Wizards of Waverly Place}}'': Agent Lamwood uses this tactic to threaten the Russos after he captured them.
-->'''Agent Lamwood:''' We make people disappear all the time. You don't hear people still talking about Glen Goldfarm, did you?
-->'''Jerry:''' Who?
-->'''Agent Lamwood:''' Exactly.
7th Aug '17 5:21:39 PM ClintEastwood
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* ''Literature/DoctorWhoNovelisations'': In ''Series/DoctorWho and the Silurians'', a scientist uses this excuse to keep quiet about the Silurians, rather than go public and find his place in history obscured by journalists and politicians, by mentioning the controversy over who invented the radio (it wasn't Marconi).

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* ''Literature/DoctorWhoNovelisations'': In ''Series/DoctorWho and the Silurians'', "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS7E2DoctorWhoAndTheSilurians The Silurians]]", a scientist uses this excuse to keep quiet about the Silurians, rather than go public and find his place in history obscured by journalists and politicians, by mentioning the controversy over who invented the radio (it wasn't Marconi).
14th Jun '17 7:49:56 AM Medinoc
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* In the Website/TGChan adventure ''Fen Quest'', a noble is about to visit Fen's tribe and he fears a rival tribe may try to frame them for offending the noble. He voices his concerns to his brother Zizi, who recounts the last such incident:
-->'''Zizi:''' The redclaw tribe once hosted a noble visit, but the leaf riders planted some notes talking bad about the nobles. You know of the redclaw tribe?
-->'''Fen:''' Yes.
-->'''Zizi:''' And you know of the leaf rider tribe?
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