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2nd Mar '16 2:11:20 PM Josef5678
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* The general FamilyUnfriendlyAesop of ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle'', that "Life is unfair", is really only possible because of this trope. The sub-Aesop is that there will always be authority figures in your lives that are unfair, and there's nothing you can do about it...''nor should you'', because that's just who they are. This, of course, means that the authority figures on this show can behave like jerks and use this justification as an excuse to avoid having to change their behavior; after all, it is in authority figures ''nature'' to be unfair, so they are not to be subject to criticism when they behave so. (Also, when Malcolm calls out the various adults on using this excuse, the show wants us to think Malcolm is being an EmoTeen.)

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* The general FamilyUnfriendlyAesop of ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle'', that "Life is unfair", is really only possible because of this trope. The sub-Aesop is that there will always be authority figures in your lives that are unfair, and there's nothing you can do about it...''nor should you'', because that's just who they are. This, of course, means that the authority figures on this show can behave like jerks and use this justification as an excuse to avoid having to change their behavior; after all, it is in authority figures figure's ''nature'' to be unfair, so they are not to be subject to criticism when they behave so. (Also, when Malcolm calls out the various adults on using this excuse, the show wants us to think Malcolm is being an EmoTeen.)
31st Dec '15 6:48:41 PM Anddrix
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* ''ComicBook/TheMightyThor'': Used to suggest why Loki is Loki, because he just can't help being bad (and BecauseDestinySaysSo). In recent years, Loki took offense to the idea, since it makes him predictable, and has tried very hard to be good. Several characters have noted their belief that sooner or later, he'll go back to being the villain. For what it's worth being extremely {{rebellious|Spirit}} and [[{{Determinator}} stubborn]] are also part of SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}}'s inherent nature so the more people question their ability to change ''the harder they try to'' (basically their approach to be good is the very same obsessiveness they used to try to conquer Asgard and/or defeat Thor with time and time again no matter how many times they failed).

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* ''ComicBook/TheMightyThor'': Used to suggest why Loki is Loki, because he just can't help being bad (and BecauseDestinySaysSo). In recent years, Loki took offense to the idea, since it makes him predictable, and has tried very hard to be good. Several characters have noted their belief that sooner or later, he'll go back to being the villain. For what it's worth being extremely {{rebellious|Spirit}} and [[{{Determinator}} stubborn]] are also part of SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}}'s Loki's inherent nature so the more people question their ability to change ''the harder they try to'' (basically their approach to be good is the very same obsessiveness they used to try to conquer Asgard and/or defeat Thor with time and time again no matter how many times they failed).
15th Dec '15 11:59:00 AM nombretomado
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* Often used in WoW on role-playing servers by trolls. "I ''am'' role playing. My character is a jerk!"

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* Often used in WoW ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' on role-playing servers by trolls. "I ''am'' role playing. My character is a jerk!"
24th Oct '15 5:36:36 PM nombretomado
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* In the ITV series ''{{Primeval}}'', a character who has been raising an orphaned sabretooth since it was a cub insists that the now fully grown cat would never attack her. Which, naturally, it does. This is TruthInTelevision for the caretakers of dangerous wild animals.

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* In the ITV series ''{{Primeval}}'', ''Series/{{Primeval}}'', a character who has been raising an orphaned sabretooth since it was a cub insists that the now fully grown cat would never attack her. Which, naturally, it does. This is TruthInTelevision for the caretakers of dangerous wild animals.



* Mary in ''DowntonAbbey'', who argues that she's inherently contrary and that it would be against her character to want to marry anyone who anyone else wanted her to marry.

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* Mary in ''DowntonAbbey'', ''Series/DowntonAbbey'', who argues that she's inherently contrary and that it would be against her character to want to marry anyone who anyone else wanted her to marry.
2nd Aug '15 11:01:51 AM ServantScope
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* [[http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/scientists-say-free-will-probably-doesnt-exist-but-urge-dont-stop-believing/ This article]] plays with this trope. It starts by showing evidence in favor of determinism (that is, the idea of people not having free will and indeed behaving in their inherent nature). The article also goes on to show studies that prove that people who are exposed to such evidence will also ''start'' behaving like jerks. So the very nature of people is not "immutable" can end up being changed by external stimuli. So even if it is true that free will does not exist, people should not be exposed to evidence disproving free will, lest their nature ends up being negatively changed.

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* [[http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/scientists-say-free-will-probably-doesnt-exist-but-urge-dont-stop-believing/ This article]] plays with this trope. It starts by showing evidence in favor of determinism (that is, the idea of people not having free will and indeed behaving in their inherent nature). The article also goes on to show studies that prove that people who are exposed to such evidence will also ''start'' behaving like jerks. So the very nature of people is not "immutable" can end up being changed by external stimuli. So The article even presents an argument by some scientists: even if it is true that free will does not exist, people should not be exposed to evidence disproving free will, lest their nature ends up being negatively changed.and thereby changing people's natures to be more bad.
2nd Aug '15 10:59:12 AM ServantScope
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*[[http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/scientists-say-free-will-probably-doesnt-exist-but-urge-dont-stop-believing/ This article]] plays with this trope. It starts by showing evidence in favor of determinism (that is, the idea of people not having free will and indeed behaving in their inherent nature). The article also goes on to show studies that prove that people who are exposed to such evidence will also ''start'' behaving like jerks. So the very nature of people is not "immutable" can end up being changed by external stimuli. So even if it is true that free will does not exist, people should not be exposed to evidence disproving free will, lest their nature ends up being negatively changed.
11th May '15 12:30:01 AM Malitia
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* ''ComicBook/TheMightyThor'': Used to suggest why Loki is Loki, because he just can't help being bad (and BecauseDestinySaysSo). In recent years, Loki took offense to the idea, since it makes him predictable, and has tried very hard to be good. Several characters have noted their belief that sooner or later, he'll go back to being the villain. For what it's worth being extremely {{rebellious|Spirit}} and [[{{Determinator}} stubborn]] are also part of SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}}'s inherent nature so the more people question their ability to change ''the harder they try to''.

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* ''ComicBook/TheMightyThor'': Used to suggest why Loki is Loki, because he just can't help being bad (and BecauseDestinySaysSo). In recent years, Loki took offense to the idea, since it makes him predictable, and has tried very hard to be good. Several characters have noted their belief that sooner or later, he'll go back to being the villain. For what it's worth being extremely {{rebellious|Spirit}} and [[{{Determinator}} stubborn]] are also part of SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}}'s inherent nature so the more people question their ability to change ''the harder they try to''.to'' (basically their approach to be good is the very same obsessiveness they used to try to conquer Asgard and/or defeat Thor with time and time again no matter how many times they failed).
11th May '15 12:21:20 AM Malitia
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* ''ComicBook/TheMightyThor'': Used to suggest why Loki is Loki, because he just can't help being bad (and BecauseDestinySaysSo). In recent years, Loki took offense to the idea, since it makes him predictable, and has tried very hard to be good. Several characters have noted their belief that sooner or later, he'll go back to being the villain.

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* ''ComicBook/TheMightyThor'': Used to suggest why Loki is Loki, because he just can't help being bad (and BecauseDestinySaysSo). In recent years, Loki took offense to the idea, since it makes him predictable, and has tried very hard to be good. Several characters have noted their belief that sooner or later, he'll go back to being the villain. For what it's worth being extremely {{rebellious|Spirit}} and [[{{Determinator}} stubborn]] are also part of SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}}'s inherent nature so the more people question their ability to change ''the harder they try to''.
30th Apr '15 9:40:12 AM Squirtle802
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** Radical liberals do this too, just with a different set of stereotypes. Really, anything that adheres to a strict Us vs. Them mindset tends to abuse this fallacy.
9th Feb '15 12:56:54 PM GoldenWyvern
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** A similar version is told in ''Film/TheCryingGame''.
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