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23rd Jul '17 11:19:06 PM HarpieSiren
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* ''Comicbook/MsMarvel2014'' had a lot of factors working against it. AffirmativeActionLegacy characters tend to be very divisive as a general rule, and while some catch on, many end up being [[LegacyImplosion done away with so the original can return]]. The creative team wasn't exactly A-list. While a fan favorite, the previous Comicbook/MsMarvel had something of a spotty sales history. [[GirlShowGhetto Many books starring female heroes still have a tough time finding an audience]], as do books starring [[MinorityShowGhetto minority leads]] (the new Ms. Marvel is [[TwoferTokenMinority both]]). Despite this, the book became a sales success, and Ms. Marvel has become one of Marvel's most successful new characters in years, to the point that she is often marketed alongside Marvel's flagship who feature in the MCU, even though she has no such counterpart yet. Even the author, G. Willow Wilson, said she thought the book would only make it to 7 issues before being cancelled.

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* ''Comicbook/MsMarvel2014'' had a lot of factors working against it. AffirmativeActionLegacy characters tend to be very divisive as a general rule, and while some catch on, many end up being [[LegacyImplosion done away with so the original can return]]. The creative team wasn't exactly A-list. While a fan favorite, the previous Comicbook/MsMarvel had something of a spotty sales history. [[GirlShowGhetto Many books starring female heroes still have a tough time finding an audience]], as do books starring [[MinorityShowGhetto minority leads]] (the new Ms. Marvel is [[TwoferTokenMinority both]]). Despite this, the book became a sales success, and Ms. Marvel has become one of Marvel's most successful new characters in years, to the point that she is often marketed alongside Marvel's flagship characters who feature in the MCU, even though she has no such counterpart yet. Even the author, G. Willow Wilson, said she thought the book would only make it to 7 issues before being cancelled.
23rd Jul '17 11:18:27 PM HarpieSiren
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* ''Comicbook/MsMarvel2014'' had a lot of factors working against it. AffirmativeActionLegacy characters tend to be very divisive as a general rule, and while some catch on, many end up being [[LegacyImplosion done away with so the original can return]]. The creative team wasn't exactly A-list. While a fan favorite, the previous Comicbook/MsMarvel had something of a spotty sales history. [[GirlShowGhetto Many books starring female heroes still have a tough time finding an audience]], as do books starring [[MinorityShowGhetto minority leads]] (the new Ms. Marvel is [[TwoferTokenMinority both]]). Despite this, the book became a sales success, and Ms. Marvel has become one of Marvel's most successful new characters in years. Even the author, G. Willow Wilson, said she thought the book would only make it to 7 issues before being cancelled.

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* ''Comicbook/MsMarvel2014'' had a lot of factors working against it. AffirmativeActionLegacy characters tend to be very divisive as a general rule, and while some catch on, many end up being [[LegacyImplosion done away with so the original can return]]. The creative team wasn't exactly A-list. While a fan favorite, the previous Comicbook/MsMarvel had something of a spotty sales history. [[GirlShowGhetto Many books starring female heroes still have a tough time finding an audience]], as do books starring [[MinorityShowGhetto minority leads]] (the new Ms. Marvel is [[TwoferTokenMinority both]]). Despite this, the book became a sales success, and Ms. Marvel has become one of Marvel's most successful new characters in years.years, to the point that she is often marketed alongside Marvel's flagship who feature in the MCU, even though she has no such counterpart yet. Even the author, G. Willow Wilson, said she thought the book would only make it to 7 issues before being cancelled.
23rd Jul '17 11:11:34 PM HarpieSiren
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** The UsefulNotes/NintendoDS and UsefulNotes/NintendoWii were both expected to be failures with terrible gimmicks by both critics and fans before release. The Nintendo DS was expected to be surpassed by the UsefulNotes/{{PSP}}, and many thought the Wii would force Nintendo to leave the console market like UsefulNotes/{{Sega}} did the previous generation. The former went on to become the top-selling handheld dedicated game system of all time. The latter went on to become the company's best-selling home console and outsold its competitors by a far margin as well. [[http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=109863 This comic illustrates the point quite nicely.]]

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** The UsefulNotes/NintendoDS and UsefulNotes/NintendoWii were both expected to be failures with terrible gimmicks by both critics and fans before release. The Nintendo DS was expected to be surpassed by the UsefulNotes/{{PSP}}, and many thought the Wii would force Nintendo to leave the console market like UsefulNotes/{{Sega}} did the previous generation. The former went on to become the top-selling handheld dedicated game system of all time. The latter went on to become the company's best-selling home console and outsold its competitors by a far margin as well. [[http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=109863 This comic illustrates the point quite nicely.]]
14th Jul '17 12:38:29 PM jharrison3051
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** ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' started off as [[RuleOfThree the second of three Disney park ride adaptations]], the other two being ''Film/TheCountryBears'' and ''Film/TheHauntedMansion''. A franchise for ''Pirates'' was in no way anticipated by Michael Eisner and his fellow execs. The original film, ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl'', quickly took off and paved the way for a different trilogy. [[TrilogyCreep A fourth film]] was released in 2011, and a fifth in 2017. So fat, the five film have earned approximately $1.5 ''billion'' at the theatrical box office alone.

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** ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' started off ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl'' was expected to be a flop by many entertainment writers. The film was conceived by Disney as [[RuleOfThree the second of three Disney park ride adaptations]], the other two being along with ''Film/TheCountryBears'' and ''Film/TheHauntedMansion''. A franchise for ''Pirates'' was in no way anticipated by Michael Eisner and his fellow execs. ''Film/TheHauntedMansion'', at the time considered a bizarre concept to base a film upon. The original film, ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl'', quickly pirate subgenre had also seen numerous costly flops, with ''Cutthroat Island'' being one of the biggest money losers ever. The film took off and paved the way for a different trilogy. [[TrilogyCreep A fourth film]] was released in 2011, and a fifth in 2017. So fat, the five film have earned approximately $1.5 ''billion'' at the theatrical box office alone.office, buoyed by positive reviews and word of mouth and ended up becoming one of the highest grossing films of summer 2003. The second film, ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMansChest'', was an even bigger hit, setting the North American opening weekend record and was the highest grossing film of 2006. [[Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean Three more sequels followed]].
7th Jul '17 8:02:21 AM DocWildNole
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* ''Comicbook/MsMarvel2014'' had a lot of factors working against it. AffirmativeActionLegacy characters tend to be very divisive as a general rule, and while some catch on, many end up being [[LegacyImplosion done away with so the original can return]]. The creative team wasn't exactly A-list. While a fan favorite, the previous Comicbook/MsMarvel had something of a spotty sales history. [[GirlShowGhetto Many books starring female heroes still have a tough time finding an audience]], as do books starring [[MinorityShowGhetto minority leads]] (the new Ms. Marvel is [[TwoferTokenMinority both]]). And perhaps most significantly, there's still a climate of Islamophobia in the United States, making a Muslim superhero a tough sell. Despite this, the book became a sales success, and Ms. Marvel has become one of Marvel's most successful new characters in years. Even the author, G. Willow Wilson, said she thought the book would only make it to 7 issues before being cancelled.

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* ''Comicbook/MsMarvel2014'' had a lot of factors working against it. AffirmativeActionLegacy characters tend to be very divisive as a general rule, and while some catch on, many end up being [[LegacyImplosion done away with so the original can return]]. The creative team wasn't exactly A-list. While a fan favorite, the previous Comicbook/MsMarvel had something of a spotty sales history. [[GirlShowGhetto Many books starring female heroes still have a tough time finding an audience]], as do books starring [[MinorityShowGhetto minority leads]] (the new Ms. Marvel is [[TwoferTokenMinority both]]). And perhaps most significantly, there's still a climate of Islamophobia in the United States, making a Muslim superhero a tough sell. Despite this, the book became a sales success, and Ms. Marvel has become one of Marvel's most successful new characters in years. Even the author, G. Willow Wilson, said she thought the book would only make it to 7 issues before being cancelled.



** Animation was considered a medium inferior to live action and destined to remain seven-minute-long curtain raisers to feature films... until ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'', which was labeled "Disney's Folly" by film industry insiders but at its premiere proved an amazing picture, and the worldwide highest-grossing until ''Film/GoneWithTheWind''. Since then it has become the subject of much strife for being the comparison point for all other animated features (Walt himself fell victim to that).
** After Walt's immense box-office wipeout (''Disney/{{Pinocchio}}'', ''Disney/{{Fantasia}}'' and ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'') and the further financial strains of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII to his studio, returning to full-length animation was an insane gamble; on top of that, branching out into non-cartoon movies and a theme park was (in the eyes of critics in the late 40s) absolutely impossible for Walt to do. ''Disney/{{Cinderella}}'', ''Film/{{Treasure Island|1950}}'' and Disneyland were all a big success.

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** Animation was considered a medium inferior to live action and destined to remain seven-minute-long curtain raisers to feature films... until ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'', which was labeled "Disney's Folly" by film industry insiders but at its premiere proved an amazing picture, and the worldwide highest-grossing sound film until ''Film/GoneWithTheWind''. Since then it has become the subject of much strife for being the comparison point for all other animated features (Walt himself fell victim to that).
** After Walt's immense the box-office wipeout (''Disney/{{Pinocchio}}'', of ''Disney/{{Fantasia}}'' and ''Disney/{{Bambi}}'') and the further financial strains of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII to on his studio, returning to full-length animation was an insane a gamble; on top of that, the other hand, branching out into non-cartoon movies and a theme park even ''documentaries'' (!) was (in the eyes of critics in the late 40s) absolutely impossible for Walt to do. Walt. ''Disney/{{Cinderella}}'', ''Film/{{Treasure Island|1950}}'' and Disneyland were all a big success.''The Living Desert'' (1953) proved the naysayers wrong, again.



** ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' started off as [[RuleOfThree the second of three Disney park ride adaptations]], the other two being ''Film/TheCountryBears'' and ''Film/TheHauntedMansion''. A franchise for ''Pirates'' was in no way anticipated by Michael Eisner and his fellow execs. The original film, ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl'', quickly took off and paved the way for a different trilogy, one whose cinematic epicness has ultimately rivaled ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''. [[TrilogyCreep A fourth film]] was released in 2011, and apparently is the first of another trilogy.

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** ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' started off as [[RuleOfThree the second of three Disney park ride adaptations]], the other two being ''Film/TheCountryBears'' and ''Film/TheHauntedMansion''. A franchise for ''Pirates'' was in no way anticipated by Michael Eisner and his fellow execs. The original film, ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl'', quickly took off and paved the way for a different trilogy, one whose cinematic epicness has ultimately rivaled ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''. trilogy. [[TrilogyCreep A fourth film]] was released in 2011, and apparently is a fifth in 2017. So fat, the first of another trilogy.five film have earned approximately $1.5 ''billion'' at the theatrical box office alone.



** Likewise, fans thought that the seventh follow-up, ''Film/{{Creed}}'', was completely unnecessary because the previous entry wrapped everything up nicely. In addition, audiences and Stallone himself hated [[Film/RockyV the last film]] that had Rocky as a mentor, so how could a second attempt at that work? ''Creed'' managed to gain even more critical acclaim than ''Rocky Balboa'' and brought in huge numbers on its opening weekend.

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** Likewise, fans thought that the seventh follow-up, ''Film/{{Creed}}'', was completely unnecessary because the previous entry wrapped everything up nicely. In addition, audiences and Stallone himself hated [[Film/RockyV the last film]] that had Rocky as a mentor, so how could a second attempt at that work? ''Creed'' managed to gain even more critical acclaim than ''Rocky Balboa'' Balboa'', turned in a respectable profit, and brought in huge numbers on its opening weekend.Stallone both a Golden Globe win and an Oscar nomination for his supporting role.


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* Creator/WaltDisney strikes again. At a time when the major studios were still fighting a desperate and doomed war against the new menace of TV, Walt embraced it; predictably, the established studios mocked. 35 years later, after becoming the first show to air on American TV's "Big 3" (ABC, NBC, CBS) ''and'' cable, the show that started as simply ''Disneyland'' finally left the air. See below for more about the show's namesake.


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* [[Ride/DisneyThemeParks Disneyland]] was known as [[Creator/WaltDisney "Walt's Folly"]] in Hollywood while he was building it and 'Walt's Nightmare" in the press after a disastrous opening day. And that's all that needs to be said about that.
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5th Jul '17 5:13:21 PM TroperBeDoper
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* ''Nobody'' expected wrestler [[Wrestling/TheRock Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson]]'s acting career to go anywhere. Despite a misstep or two early in his Hollywood days, The Rock of today is a bonafide movie star and consistent box office draw.
20th Jun '17 10:27:12 PM sayaleviathan
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': There were [[http://winteriscoming.net/2017/04/27/this-is-fun-a-sampling-of-bad-reviews-game-of-thrones-received-in-the-beginning-shell/ early negative reviews]] when Season 1 was airing due to the SciFiGhetto and several people claimed that HBO was going for a NetworkDecay. Now that time has passed, the show (and by extension, the books) had a huge fanbase, earned critical acclaim, won several Emmy awards and brought back the interest of the DarkFantasy genre. [[FollowTheLeader It even inspired several medieval and huge budget shows]].
18th Jun '17 6:48:08 PM igordebraga
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* If you would believe it, ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' of all things got this treatment. At the time Stan Lee went to publish it, teens were usually portrayed as sidekicks (i.e. Robin, Bucky) and weren't seen as solo heroes. An exec even commented on the concept because people have arachnophobia and would be turned off by the character. However, Spider-Man beat the odds and became Marvel's flagship hero as well as one of the most well known superheroes of all time next to the likes of Batman and Superman (even teamed up with both of them at one point).

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* If you would believe it, ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' Franchise/SpiderMan of all things got this treatment. At the time Stan Lee went to publish it, teens were usually portrayed as sidekicks (i.e. Robin, Bucky) and weren't seen as solo heroes. An exec even commented on the concept because people have arachnophobia and would be turned off by the character. Marvel even put Spidey's debut story in a title that was about to have its last issue. However, Spider-Man beat the odds and became Marvel's flagship hero as well as one of the most well known superheroes of all time next to the likes of Batman and Superman (even teamed up with both of them at one point).



** Pierre Boulle, author of ''[[Literature/PlanetOfTheApes La Planete des Singes]]'', considered it to be one of his lesser works and that [[Film/PlanetOfTheApes any film based off it]] had no potential for screen success. Fox even only greenlit the original to compensate [[TroubledProduction the hell producer Arthur P. Jacobs faced with]] ''Film/DoctorDolittle''.

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** [[Film/PlanetOfTheApes The original]] also counts: Pierre Boulle, author of ''[[Literature/PlanetOfTheApes La Planete des Singes]]'', considered it to be one of his lesser works and that [[Film/PlanetOfTheApes any film based off it]] it had no potential for screen success. Fox even only greenlit the original to compensate [[TroubledProduction the hell producer Arthur P. Jacobs faced with]] ''Film/DoctorDolittle''.



* ''Film/WonderWoman'' had been DevelopmentHell for years and because of the failure of ''Film/{{Catwoman}}'' and ''Film/{{Elektra}}'', many executive producers believed that [[GirlShowGhetto superheroine movies don't sell well]]. After the mixed-to-negative reception of the first three Film/DCExtendedUniverse movies (''Film/ManOfSteel'', ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' and ''Film/SuicideSquad''), some people expected that ''Wonder Woman'' would follow the same. Fortunately, the film earned positive critical and audience reception and became the biggest-grossing female-led comic book superhero film ever, earning $200+ million worldwide.

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* ''Film/WonderWoman'' had been in DevelopmentHell for years and because of the failure of ''Film/{{Catwoman}}'' and ''Film/{{Elektra}}'', many executive producers believed that [[GirlShowGhetto superheroine movies don't sell well]]. After the mixed-to-negative reception of the first three Film/DCExtendedUniverse movies (''Film/ManOfSteel'', ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' and ''Film/SuicideSquad''), some people expected that ''Wonder Woman'' would follow the same. Fortunately, the film earned positive critical and audience reception and became the biggest-grossing female-led comic book superhero film ever, earning $200+ million worldwide.worldwide in just its opening weekend.



* Literature/AConfederacyOfDunces was rejected as being pointless by multiple publishers. After the author committed suicide, his mother found a smeared copy of the manuscript, and tried to get publishers interested for the next ''11 years''. Finally, she browbeat an established author into reading it, and he was so impressed, he used his influence to get it published. The novel won a Pulitzer Prize the next year.

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* Literature/AConfederacyOfDunces ''Literature/AConfederacyOfDunces'' was rejected as being pointless by multiple publishers. After the author committed suicide, his mother found a smeared copy of the manuscript, and tried to get publishers interested for the next ''11 years''. Finally, she browbeat an established author into reading it, and he was so impressed, he used his influence to get it published. The novel won a Pulitzer Prize the next year.



* In 1982, Creator/EpicRecords thought {{Music/Thriller}}, Music/MichaelJackson's follow up to his 1979 smash Music/OffTheWall, would flop, due to its GenreRoulette. One hundred million copies, seven top ten singles, and eight Grammy Awards later, Michael Jackson would cement his legacy as the "King of Pop".

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* In 1982, Creator/EpicRecords thought {{Music/Thriller}}, ''{{Music/Thriller}}'', Music/MichaelJackson's follow up to his 1979 smash Music/OffTheWall, ''Music/OffTheWall'', would flop, due to its GenreRoulette. One hundred million copies, seven top ten singles, and eight Grammy Awards later, Michael Jackson would cement his legacy as the "King of Pop".
18th Jun '17 7:09:07 AM R1pley
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11th Jun '17 12:59:00 PM babyhenchy1
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* Apparently, before Creator/BruceWillis was approached to play John [=McClane=] in ''Film/DieHard'', the job had already been turned down by Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/SylvesterStallone, Creator/BurtReynolds, Creator/RichardGere, Creator/HarrisonFord and Creator/MelGibson, who didn't believe in the script, and John [=McTiernan=], who would later direct it, even turned down ''several'' offers. When his agent delivered the news to Willis, he immediately advised him ''not'' to do it, thinking he'd make a complete fool of himself. However, due to the payment being simply too good to turn down, Willis accepted to play [=McClane=], kicking off his career as one of Hollywood's most popular and well paid actors. Not to mention how the movie became influential in [[DieHardOnAnX formula]] and protagonist type of later movies.

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* Apparently, before Creator/BruceWillis was approached to play John [=McClane=] in ''Film/DieHard'', the job had already been turned down by Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/SylvesterStallone, Creator/BurtReynolds, Creator/RichardGere, Creator/HarrisonFord and Creator/MelGibson, who didn't believe in the script, and John [=McTiernan=], who would later direct it, even turned down ''several'' offers. When his agent delivered the news to Willis, he immediately advised him ''not'' to do it, thinking he'd make a complete fool of himself. However, due to the payment being simply too good to turn down, Willis accepted to play [=McClane=], kicking off his career as one of Hollywood's most popular and well paid actors. Not to mention how the movie became influential in [[DieHardOnAnX formula]] and protagonist type of later movies. It is now virtually impossible to find a ''Best Action Movies'' list that does not contain it, more often than not, at the top of the pile.
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