History Main / AncientGrome

11th Sep '17 12:27:59 AM Skagit
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* It's important to note that Rome eventually conquered Greece and most of the area they were settled in (such as the Levant and much of Italy) which resulted in Greeks becoming well assimilated into the Roman Empire. Greek, not Latin, was the lingua franca for much of the Empire and was the language of the educated classes in Rome proper (just like Latin would be in later eras). Julius Caesar was known to have preferred speaking Greek and it is thought that "et tu, Brute?" was a translation.
* Emperor Hadrian in particular was a noted Philhellene (lover of Greek culture) and he enthusiastically adopted a range of Greek practices such as growing a beard and taking a male lover. Commodus took all that further and dressed as Heracles.
15th Jul '17 1:28:27 PM Psyclone
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* In ''VideoGame/GodOfWar III'', the Spartan protagonist faces off most of the gods, heroes and beasts of Greek mythology...[[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Hercules]] (rather than, say, Herakles).

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* In ''VideoGame/GodOfWar III'', the Spartan protagonist faces off most of the gods, heroes and beasts of Greek mythology...[[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Hercules]] (rather than, say, than Herakles).



*** WordOfGod claims this was because the Roman name is better known (thus why the name "Hercules" shows up in move names in the previous two games made long before Sorbo was cast).
** Also, the standart mooks Kratos fights along the series are the Undead Leggionaires (and their variants). Leggionaires were Roman soldiers, not Greek. The actual basic Greek soldiers were the hoplites (which only appear in the Ghost of Sparta game).

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*** WordOfGod claims this was because admits they used the Roman name is better due to it being more well known (thus why the name "Hercules" shows up in move names in the previous two games made long before Sorbo was cast).
** Also, the standart standard mooks Kratos fights along the series are the Undead Leggionaires Legionnaires (and their variants). Leggionaires Legionnaires were Roman soldiers, not Greek. The actual basic Greek soldiers were the hoplites (which only appear in the Ghost of Sparta game).
24th Mar '17 1:23:23 PM Theriocephalus
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* ''VideoGame/{{Smite}}'' seemed to avert this at first (Disregarding what is said on Cupid's lore) ( There are Greek and Roman Pantheon, and Hercules is considered amongst the Roman Pantheon. Whenever there is lore amongst the Roman Pantheon, they will use the Roman names (such as Hercules referring Hera as Juno, Cupid referring Aphrodite, Ares and Zeus as Venus, Mars and Jupiter respectively). So it would seem that they think both Pantheons are different... until Hercules' visual update, where he gains a direct taunt referring ''Zeus'' as his ''father''. And also, it's confirmed on Cupid's lore that the Greek and Roman gods are the same gods, and that they were just known by different names by the Romans and Greeks. This trope eventually sees a more justified rule when they included the Roman Earth Mother, Terra. She's said to mate with Ouranos, who's obviously the Greek version... but considering that if they used the Roman name (Uranus) [[UranusIsShowing they might end up accidentally creating dirty ass jokes on Terra]], this probably would be excusable for once.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Smite}}'' seemed generally seems to avert this at first (Disregarding what is said on Cupid's lore) ( There are this, as the Greek and Roman Pantheon, and Hercules is considered amongst gods are split in two separate pantheons, with the Roman Pantheon. Whenever there is Pantheon including those deities that were primarily or exclusively worshipped by the Romans. In the lore amongst for the Roman Pantheon, they will use gods, the Roman names will be used (such as Hercules referring Hera as Juno, Cupid referring Hera, Aphrodite, Ares and Zeus as Juno, Venus, Mars and Jupiter respectively). So it would seem that they think both Pantheons are different... until Hercules' visual update, where he gains gained a direct taunt referring ''Zeus'' as his ''father''. And also, it's confirmed on in Cupid's lore that the Greek and Roman gods are the same gods, and that they were just known by different names by the Romans and Greeks. This trope eventually sees a more justified rule when they included the Roman Earth Mother, Terra. She's said to mate with Ouranos, who's obviously the Greek version... but considering that if they used the Roman name (Uranus) for the sky god, although this might have been to prevent [[UranusIsShowing they might end up accidentally creating dirty ass jokes on Terra]], this probably would be excusable for once.jokes]]).
8th Mar '17 10:00:13 PM Averagemoe
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* Videogame/Wizard101 and Videogame/Pirate101 both have this in the realm of Aquila.
2nd Feb '17 7:57:24 AM Morgenthaler
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* Played with in ''TotalDramaWorldTour,'' when Chris announces that they are going to Rome for their Olympic challenge. When several of the contestants inform him that the Olympics are ''Greek'', he gets annoyed... and then [[DisproportionateRetribution has]] [[ButtMonkey an intern]] [[DisproportionateRetribution thrown out of the plane]] for giving him wrong information.

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* Played with in ''TotalDramaWorldTour,'' ''WesternAnimation/TotalDramaWorldTour,'' when Chris announces that they are going to Rome for their Olympic challenge. When several of the contestants inform him that the Olympics are ''Greek'', he gets annoyed... and then [[DisproportionateRetribution has]] [[ButtMonkey an intern]] [[DisproportionateRetribution thrown out of the plane]] for giving him wrong information.
16th Jan '17 9:22:58 PM Ryulong
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* One of the first sets of rare cards released in VideoGame/PuzzleAndDragons were the "Greco-Roman Gods" ("Western Gods" in Japanese) Minerva, Neptune, Ceres, Venus, and...Hades. The sequel set of Ares, Hermes, Artemis, Apollo ("Apollon" in Japanese), and Persephone were at least consistently Greek.

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* One of the first sets of rare cards released in VideoGame/PuzzleAndDragons were the "Greco-Roman Gods" ("Western Gods" in Japanese) Minerva, Neptune, Ceres, Venus, and...Hades. The sequel set of Ares, Hermes, Artemis, Apollo ("Apollon" in Japanese), and Persephone were at least consistently Greek. There's also (multiple versions of) Zeus, Hera, and Athena (who is completely different from Minerva).
16th Jan '17 9:21:29 PM Ryulong
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* One of the first sets of rare cards released in VideoGame/PuzzleAndDragons were the "Greco-Roman Gods" ("Western Gods" in Japanese) Minerva, Neptune, Ceres, Venus, and...Hades. The sequel set of Ares, Hermes, Artemis, Apollo ("Apollon" in Japanese), and Persephone were at least consistently Greek.
15th Dec '16 10:47:58 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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---> '''Crew Chief:''' [[LampshadeHanging Okay, but why Rome? Aren't you, y'know...a Greek god? I mean, if you were a Roman god, wouldn't you be called Maxie Jupiter?]]

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---> '''Crew Chief:''' [[LampshadeHanging Okay, but why Rome? Aren't you, y'know... a Greek god? I mean, if you were a Roman god, wouldn't you be called Maxie Jupiter?]]



** Ajax is the Latin name for the Greek name Aias. This gets very confusing in ''Literature/TheIliad'' because translators have various ways of referring to the two Aiantes...Ajaces...two people named Ajax.
** Try reading a book of Greek myths that uses only the Roman names? (Greek names were only used in the Greek-to-Roman ''name chart''.

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** Ajax is the Latin name for the Greek name Aias. This gets very confusing in ''Literature/TheIliad'' because translators have various ways of referring to the two Aiantes...Ajaces... Ajaces... two people named Ajax.
** Try reading a book of Greek myths that uses only the Roman names? (Greek names were only used in the Greek-to-Roman ''name chart''.)



* Played with in ''TotalDramaWorldTour,'' when Chris announces that they are going to Rome for their Olympic challenge. When several of the contestants inform him that the Olympics are ''Greek'', he gets annoyed...and then [[DisproportionateRetribution has]] [[ButtMonkey an intern]] [[DisproportionateRetribution thrown out of the plane]] for giving him wrong information.

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* Played with in ''TotalDramaWorldTour,'' when Chris announces that they are going to Rome for their Olympic challenge. When several of the contestants inform him that the Olympics are ''Greek'', he gets annoyed... and then [[DisproportionateRetribution has]] [[ButtMonkey an intern]] [[DisproportionateRetribution thrown out of the plane]] for giving him wrong information.



* American college fraternities use Greek letters as names, and fraternity culture is called "Greek." A famous part of "Greek" college life is "toga parties," but togas were actually a Roman article of clothing. The Greeks wore chitons, not togas. On the other hand, the bedsheet-togas of "toga parties" is actually nothing like the Roman toga (which was a complexly draped semicircular piece of woolen cloth, typically worn over a tunic, and covering both shoulders anyway, it was the Roman equivalent of a three-piece suit and not good for parties) and a lot like...the Greek chiton (which were made of a rectangular piece of linen, and were often worn as a tunic with other garments like the chlamys--a rectangular woolen cloak--on top, often not covering one shoulder, they were the Greek equivalent of a white T-shirt and quite excellent for parties).

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* American college fraternities use Greek letters as names, and fraternity culture is called "Greek." A famous part of "Greek" college life is "toga parties," but togas were actually a Roman article of clothing. The Greeks wore chitons, not togas. On the other hand, the bedsheet-togas of "toga parties" is actually nothing like the Roman toga (which was a complexly draped semicircular piece of woolen cloth, typically worn over a tunic, and covering both shoulders anyway, it was the Roman equivalent of a three-piece suit and not good for parties) and a lot like... the Greek chiton (which were made of a rectangular piece of linen, and were often worn as a tunic with other garments like the chlamys--a rectangular woolen cloak--on top, often not covering one shoulder, they were the Greek equivalent of a white T-shirt and quite excellent for parties).
30th Oct '16 3:45:48 PM nombretomado
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** Considering that Hercules's voice actor is Kevin Sorbo, is more like an ActorAllusion to ''HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys''.

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** Considering that Hercules's voice actor is Kevin Sorbo, is more like an ActorAllusion to ''HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys''.''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys''.
26th Oct '16 7:56:26 PM PaulA
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* ''Series/StarTrekNewFrontier'' by PeterDavid lampshades this by saying that the superpowered Beings used to be ''both'' Greek and Roman gods... as well as Norse, Hindu, Egyptian... and Santa Claus.

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* ''Series/StarTrekNewFrontier'' by PeterDavid Creator/PeterDavid lampshades this by saying that the superpowered Beings used to be ''both'' Greek and Roman gods... as well as Norse, Hindu, Egyptian... and Santa Claus.
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