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19th Feb '18 3:26:19 AM WillBGood
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* Seahn of [[Creator/CrossGen The First]]. He's the personification of ambition, and a nasty, ''nasty'' piece of work.

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* Seahn of [[Creator/CrossGen The First]].''ComicBook/TheFirst''. He's the personification of ambition, and a nasty, ''nasty'' piece of work.
18th Feb '18 4:46:58 PM ShorinBJ
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** Gowron is an example. He was presented as a Klingon who genuinely gave a crap about honor. Indeed, he was a political outsider who often opposed the High Council. But as time went by, he cared more and more about keeping his position as leader of the Empire secure, to the point of deliberately sending a brilliant general he viewed as a rival on impossible missions.
28th Jan '18 1:07:58 PM Discar
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** Several other major characters also resent this trope. Honor fights several times what she feels is favorable treatment to suit her ambition. Her rank is usually thrust upon her after arguing she not only deserves it, but is obligated to take it to better serve [[strike: TheKingdom]] TheEmpire.

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** Several other major characters also resent this trope. Honor fights several times what she feels is favorable treatment to suit her ambition. Her rank is usually thrust upon her after arguing she not only deserves it, but is obligated to take it to better serve [[strike: TheKingdom]] TheEmpire.
23rd Jan '18 6:15:28 PM NotOnAnyFlatbread
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* ''Series/PoliticalAnimals'':
** Frequently discussed in terms of Elaine's political ambition making her look bad because [[DoubleStandard ambition looks better on men]].
** Georgia, the reporter whom Susan compares to [[Film/AllAboutEve Eve Harrington]] in the first episode, doesn't seem to care who she hurts to get established as a more serious reporter, although she's closer to Short-Sighted Ambition Is Evil And Stupid.
13th Jan '18 7:35:27 PM DrFraud
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* "The Way Things Are" from ''I Can Get It For You Wholesale'':
-->You've got to climb higher, always climb!\\
To hell with the rules!\\
Get used to the fools\\
Who have to be stepped on\\
From time to time!
9th Jan '18 8:31:12 AM tafelshrew
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** Averted when it comes to Daenerys: her driving motivation is to seize the throne she believes is rightfully hers, and side-effects of some of her actions in service to this ambition include death and suffering, but [[CrapsackWorld no more so than many other characters' actions,]] and she's one of the better people in the setting.
9th Jan '18 5:02:58 AM Cryoclaste
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* The major recurring theme of ''ThePillarsOfTheEarth'' and ''WorldWithoutEnd'' is that people will put their own ambitions over what is morally right and what is best for everyone. All of the villains are consumed by the desire to rise above their current station and will do horrible things in the attempt. Further, the morally ambililent characters will repeatedly make decisions based solely on what is best for their advancement. Even the heroes are sometimes accused of being too arrogant or ambitious, though unlike others they do so in the pursuit of more noble goals.

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* The major recurring theme of ''ThePillarsOfTheEarth'' ''Literature/ThePillarsOfTheEarth'' and ''WorldWithoutEnd'' ''Literature/WorldWithoutEnd'' is that people will put their own ambitions over what is morally right and what is best for everyone. All of the villains are consumed by the desire to rise above their current station and will do horrible things in the attempt. Further, the morally ambililent characters will repeatedly make decisions based solely on what is best for their advancement. Even the heroes are sometimes accused of being too arrogant or ambitious, though unlike others they do so in the pursuit of more noble goals.
9th Jan '18 5:02:12 AM Cryoclaste
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* Ralph Fitzgerald, as we see later in ''WorldWithoutEnd'', by Ken Follet. He would do ANYTHING to become rich and famous. He is quite frequently the JerkAss, but gradually becomes a more ambitious JerkAss. Godwyn plays it straight, going much murkier routes than you'd expect a monk to go. Godwyn is a Chessmaster with NO morals or guidelines. Ralph, as we all see later is just stupid, and got lucky.

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* Ralph Fitzgerald, as we see later in ''WorldWithoutEnd'', ''Literature/WorldWithoutEnd'', by Ken Follet. He would do ANYTHING to become rich and famous. He is quite frequently the JerkAss, but gradually becomes a more ambitious JerkAss. Godwyn plays it straight, going much murkier routes than you'd expect a monk to go. Godwyn is a Chessmaster with NO morals or guidelines. Ralph, as we all see later is just stupid, and got lucky.
13th Dec '17 6:01:14 PM nombretomado
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* ''EccoTheDolphin: Defender of the Future'': {{Justified|Trope}}. Ambition made dolphins from an alternate reality ruthless and selfish, but only because at the time it was their only trait besides Intelligence ([[ItMakesSenseInContext the others having been stolen from them]]). When those qualities are balanced by the rest - Compassion, Wisdom, and Humility - Ambition instead serves as the noble trait that drives dolphins to fulfill their dreams.

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* ''EccoTheDolphin: ''VideoGame/EccoTheDolphin: Defender of the Future'': {{Justified|Trope}}. Ambition made dolphins from an alternate reality ruthless and selfish, but only because at the time it was their only trait besides Intelligence ([[ItMakesSenseInContext the others having been stolen from them]]). When those qualities are balanced by the rest - Compassion, Wisdom, and Humility - Ambition instead serves as the noble trait that drives dolphins to fulfill their dreams.
7th Dec '17 4:01:41 AM WillBGood
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* Kind of subverted in ''Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch:'' When Harvey tells Sabrina he doesn't plan on going to college, Sabrina secretly doses him with a magical "Ambition" line of toiletries sold to her by her cousin. However she uses too much turning Harvey into a CorruptCorporateExecutive who manages to buy the school and plan on demolishing it. When Sabrina's aunts find out, they learn that the Ambition products lacked a key "expensive and imported" component: Perspective, meaning that Harvey was dosed with "Blind Ambition". When Harvey is dosed with Perspective, he cancels the plan, gives all his money to charity, and everything goes back to normal with an Aesop about [[PygmalionSnapback wanting to change people...]] until Harvey tells Sabrina that he ''will'' go to college after all. (It's important to note that the Harvey at the end of the episode is still Harvey dosed with Ambition-plus-Perspective, not the original, unaltered personality -- in other words, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop it is okay to screw with people's brain chemistry without their consent as long as you do it right]].)

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* Kind of subverted Played with in ''Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch:'' When Harvey tells Sabrina he doesn't plan on going to college, Sabrina secretly doses him with a magical "Ambition" line of toiletries sold to her by her cousin. However she uses too much turning Harvey into a CorruptCorporateExecutive who manages to buy the school and plan on demolishing it. When Sabrina's aunts find out, they learn that the Ambition products lacked a key "expensive and imported" component: Perspective, meaning that Harvey was dosed with "Blind Ambition". When Harvey is dosed with Perspective, he cancels the plan, gives all his money to charity, and everything goes back to normal with an Aesop about [[PygmalionSnapback wanting to change people...]] until Harvey tells Sabrina that he ''will'' go to college after all. (It's important to note that the Harvey at the end of the episode is still Harvey dosed with Ambition-plus-Perspective, not the original, unaltered personality -- in other words, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop it is okay to screw with people's brain chemistry without their consent as long as you do it right]].)
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