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25th May '17 7:10:07 AM Anicomicgeek
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* ''ComicBook/SupermanSuperLeague'' features three versions of Superman - the New 52 Superman, the pre-New 52 Superman, and an insane EnergyBeing copy of the New 52 Superman who's convinced he's the real one. It also features the New 52 and pre-New 52 versions of ComicBook/LoisLane.
* Following the death of the New 52 Superman, ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' features a story arc where the pre-New 52 Superman is confronted with the mystery of how Clark Kent can be around - a completely human Clark Kent with no super-powers, who recalls a life as an ordinary human being and denies having ever been Superman.

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* ''ComicBook/SupermanSuperLeague'' features three versions of Superman - the New 52 Superman, the pre-New 52 Superman, and an insane EnergyBeing copy of the New 52 Superman who's convinced he's the real one. It also features the New 52 and pre-New 52 versions of ComicBook/LoisLane.
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ComicBook/LoisLane. Following the death of the New 52 Superman, ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' features a story arc where the pre-New 52 Superman is confronted with the mystery of how Clark Kent can be around - a completely human Clark Kent with no super-powers, who recalls a life as an ordinary human being and denies having ever been Superman.Superman. [[spoiler:''ComicBook/SupermanReborn'' reveals that the pre-''New 52'' Superman was actually split into two, one of whom being the ''New 52'' one and they reemerge at the end. Additionally, the "human Clark Kent" was really Mr. Mxyzptlk.]]
25th May '17 7:06:28 AM Anicomicgeek
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Then came [[Franchise/TransformersTimelines "Another Light"]], which put an end to multiversal singularities altogether, meaning that retroactive, the Fallen in [[ComicBook/TheTransformersDreamwave the Dreamwave comics]] and [[Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen the movies]] aren't the same guy themselves, but separate entities as well.

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Then came [[Franchise/TransformersTimelines "Another Light"]], which put an end to multiversal singularities altogether, meaning that retroactive, retroactivly, the Fallen seen in [[ComicBook/TheTransformersDreamwave [[ComicBook/TransformersGenerationOne the Dreamwave comics]] and [[Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen the movies]] aren't the same guy themselves, but separate entities as well.
7th May '17 9:29:18 PM 64SuperNintendo
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28th Apr '17 3:45:05 PM margdean56
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The Alternate Self is the same person as the character, but living a separate life. The most common cause is that the two alternate selves live in separate timelines that diverged reasonably recently and was the same or very similar during the person's formative years.

However, in some SpeculativeFiction, a Alternate Self can also be created by a TeleporterAccident, or even a extreme case of CloningBlues, where the clone somehow keep the personality, skills and memories of the original.

The character and the alternate self (or the two alternate selves, if the plot treats them equally as characters) might have been more or less changed by different circumstances, but they are still the same person at the core. They may or may not be the same age, but they do NOT have a linear relationship of one being the younger self that will become the other - the older self.

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The Alternate Self is the same person as the character, but living a separate life. The most common cause is that the two alternate selves live in separate timelines that diverged reasonably recently and was were the same or very similar during the person's formative years.

However, in some SpeculativeFiction, a Alternate Self can also be created by a TeleporterAccident, or even a extreme case of CloningBlues, where the clone somehow keep keeps the personality, skills and memories of the original.

The character and the alternate self (or the two alternate selves, if the plot treats them equally as characters) might have been more or less changed by different circumstances, but they are still the same person at the core. They may or may not be the same age, but they do NOT have a linear relationship of one being the younger self that will become the other - -- the older self.
12th Mar '17 5:35:28 PM AthenaBlue
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* Most of the characters in the sixth season of ''Series/{{Lost}}'' are presented this way: Living very different lives in the two timelines while still being the same persons. Subverted in [[EsotericHappyEnding the season finale]], but presented this way throughout the season nonetheless.
* The seven different timelines formed in ''Series/{{Community}}'s'' [[Recap/CommunityS3E04RemedialChaosTheory Remedial Chaos Theory]] allow for seven alternate versions of each of the seven main characters.
* Ace Rimmer (and his entire timeline) in ''Series/RedDwarf''.
** In the episode "Demons and Angels", a replicator malfunction creates two copies of Red Dwarf, crew included. One copy contains all the best elements and the crew are all kind, enlightened pacifists, while the other ship contains their worst elements, peopled by twisted and sadistic versions of the crew.
* All the AlternateUniverse counterparts of the cast of ''Series/{{Fringe}}'' -- except for Alt Astrid, who has Asperger's/high functioning autism with no explanation for it.
* William Thomas Riker in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' was split in a Transporter Malfunction. The two alternate selves was the same person at the time of the split, but one of them lived on ''Enterprise'' while the other was shipwrecked on a deserted planet for several years. This other Riker later called himself Thomas Riker (using their middle name) and built a separate life for himself. There is also the fact that the Riker who stayed behind never got the chance to be promoted to the rank of Commander (he's still a Lieutenant) leading to at least one ironic situation where Riker is essentially giving himself orders. The writers briefly considered killing Will Riker off, having Data move up to First Officer, and Thomas taking over as Operations Officer.
** Thomas appeared again on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' posing as Will Riker. The only person who notices something amiss before the reveal is Chief O'Brien when Riker doesn't greet him as a friend during a chance encounter.
* In ''Series/{{Farscape}}'', [[spoiler:John]] is "twinned" by an alien device. They are forced by circumstances to split up, and for an extended period of time the series alternates between following one and following the other. Both versions believe that they are the original, and that the other is the copy, but it is abundantly clear that they are both the original.

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* Most of the characters in the sixth season of ''Series/{{Lost}}'' are presented this way: Living very different lives in the two timelines while still being the same persons. Subverted in [[EsotericHappyEnding the season finale]], but presented this way throughout the season nonetheless.
* The seven different timelines formed in ''Series/{{Community}}'s'' ''Series/{{Community}}''[='s=] [[Recap/CommunityS3E04RemedialChaosTheory Remedial "Remedial Chaos Theory]] Theory"]] allow for seven alternate versions of each of the seven main characters.
* Ace Rimmer (and his entire timeline) in ''Series/RedDwarf''.
** In the episode "Demons and Angels", a replicator malfunction creates two copies of Red Dwarf, crew included. One copy contains all the best elements and the crew are all kind, enlightened pacifists, while the other ship contains their worst elements, peopled by twisted and sadistic versions of the crew.
* All the AlternateUniverse counterparts of the cast of ''Series/{{Fringe}}'' -- except for Alt Astrid, who has Asperger's/high functioning autism with no explanation for it.
* William Thomas Riker in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' was split in a Transporter Malfunction. The two alternate selves was the same person at the time of the split, but one of them lived on ''Enterprise'' while the other was shipwrecked on a deserted planet for several years. This other Riker later called himself Thomas Riker (using their middle name) and built a separate life for himself. There is also the fact that the Riker who stayed behind never got the chance to be promoted to the rank of Commander (he's still a Lieutenant) leading to at least one ironic situation where Riker is essentially giving himself orders. The writers briefly considered killing Will Riker off, having Data move up to First Officer, and Thomas taking over as Operations Officer.
** Thomas appeared again on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' posing as Will Riker. The only person who notices something amiss before the reveal is Chief O'Brien when Riker doesn't greet him as a friend during a chance encounter.
* In ''Series/{{Farscape}}'', [[spoiler:John]] is "twinned" by an alien device. They are forced by circumstances to split up, and for an extended period of time the series alternates between following one and following the other. Both versions believe that they are the original, and that the other is the copy, but it is abundantly clear that they are both the original.
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** There's a few of these in an AlternateUniverse in series 2 (also known as season 28), including versions of Mickey (known there as Ricky), Rose's parents and Mickey's grandmother. Rose's father and Mickey's gran were already dead in the "main" universe, while Rose's mum and Mickey eventually served as replacements when their counterparts were killed. An alternate Harriet Jones (a short lived Prime Minister in the main universe) is mentioned as President of Great Britain.
** In the episode "Journey's End", [[spoiler:the Doctor's severed hand]], having absorbed regeneration energy and come into contact with [[spoiler:Donna Noble]], branches off into a [[spoiler:human-Time Lord metacrisis, with the Doctor's memories, but a biology and lifespan closer to that of a human]]. Conversely, [[spoiler:as the metacrisis went both ways, Donna Noble also gains the experiences of the Doctor, which slowly killed her]].
** In an attempt to save the Doctor's life, Clara basically scattered untold numbers of these all throughout his timeline, all sharing her appearance and high intelligence, as well as her love for adventure, soufflés, and [[FriendToAllChildren children.]] Before the Doctor manages to track down the original Clara on present-day Earth, we meet one in Victorian London, and another one in a crashed spaceship. More pop up in the expanded universe - Amy runs into an American version in the anthology ''Summer Falls'', and the Twelfth Doctor and Clara meet a near-future version in a ''Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine'' comic strip.

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** There's a few of these in an the AlternateUniverse first seen in series 2 (also known as season 28), [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E5RiseOfTheCybermen "Rise of the Cybermen"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E6TheAgeOfSteel "The Age of Steel"]], including versions of Mickey (known there as Ricky), Rose's parents and Mickey's grandmother. Rose's father and Mickey's gran were already dead in the "main" universe, while Rose's mum and universe. Mickey eventually served as replacements when their counterparts were killed. An ends up deciding to stay to replace his dead counterpart. When it was revisited in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E13Doomsday "Doomsday"]], Jackie Tyler also winds up staying to replace ''her'' dead counterpart. And an alternate Harriet Jones (a short lived Prime Minister in the main universe) is mentioned as to be President of Great Britain.
** In the episode [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E13JourneysEnd "Journey's End", End"]], [[spoiler:the Doctor's severed hand]], having absorbed regeneration energy and come into contact with [[spoiler:Donna Noble]], branches off into a [[spoiler:human-Time Lord metacrisis, with the Doctor's memories, but a biology and lifespan closer to that of a human]]. Conversely, [[spoiler:as the metacrisis went both ways, Donna Noble also gains gained the experiences of the Doctor, which slowly killed her]].
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor "The Name of the Doctor"]]: In an attempt to save the Doctor's life, Clara basically Oswald scattered untold numbers of these all throughout his timeline, all sharing her appearance and high intelligence, as well as her love for adventure, soufflés, and [[FriendToAllChildren children.]] Before the Doctor manages to track down the original Clara on present-day Earth, we meet [[Recap/DoctorWho2012CSTheSnowmen one in Victorian London, London]], and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E1AsylumOfTheDaleks another one in a crashed spaceship. spaceship]]. More pop up in the expanded universe - -- Amy runs into an American version in the anthology ''Summer Falls'', and the Twelfth Doctor and Clara meet a near-future version in a ''Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine'' comic strip.strip.
* In ''Series/{{Farscape}}'', [[spoiler:John]] is "twinned" by an alien device. They are forced by circumstances to split up, and for an extended period of time the series alternates between following one and following the other. Both versions believe that they are the original, and that the other is the copy, but it is abundantly clear that they are both the original.
* Many AlternateUniverse examples in ''Series/TheFlash2014''.
** Barry isn't a metahuman; Iris is a cop; Joe is a singer and goes by Joseph; Caitlin and Cisco are [[spoiler:metahuman villains respectively named Killer Frost and Reverb]]; Linda Park is [[spoiler:a metahuman criminal named Dr. Light]]; Ronnie is [[spoiler:alive, evil and goes by Deathstorm]]; Laurel Lance is [[spoiler:alive, evil, and a metahuman going by the name Black Siren]]; Henry Allen on Earth-3 is [[spoiler:a speedster and the real Jay Garrick]].
** Taken to its logical extreme with Dr. Harrison Wells. Creator/TomCavanagh has played ''six'' versions of Wells, plus two impersonators of the Earth-1 Wells, as of early season 3.
* All the AlternateUniverse counterparts of the cast of ''Series/{{Fringe}}'' -- except for Alt Astrid, who has Asperger's/high functioning autism with no explanation for it.
* Most of the characters in the sixth season of ''Series/{{Lost}}'' are presented this way: Living very different lives in the two timelines while still being the same persons. Subverted in [[EsotericHappyEnding the season finale]], but presented this way throughout the season nonetheless.
* Ace Rimmer (and his entire timeline) in ''Series/RedDwarf''.
** In the episode "Demons and Angels", a replicator malfunction creates two copies of Red Dwarf, crew included. One copy contains all the best elements and the crew are all kind, enlightened pacifists, while the other ship contains their worst elements, peopled by twisted and sadistic versions of the crew.



* The ''Series/SoWeird'' episode "Pen Pal" has Annie encounter a version herself from an AlternateTimeline where she spilled grape juice on herself, kicking off a chain of events that led to her becoming a remorseless bad girl. In the regular timeline, Annie chose orange juice instead, didn't spill it, and her life went on as normal.



* William Thomas Riker in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' was split in a Transporter Malfunction. The two alternate selves was the same person at the time of the split, but one of them lived on ''Enterprise'' while the other was shipwrecked on a deserted planet for several years. This other Riker later called himself Thomas Riker (using their middle name) and built a separate life for himself. There is also the fact that the Riker who stayed behind never got the chance to be promoted to the rank of Commander (he's still a Lieutenant) leading to at least one ironic situation where Riker is essentially giving himself orders. The writers briefly considered killing Will Riker off, having Data move up to First Officer, and Thomas taking over as Operations Officer.
** Thomas appeared again on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' posing as Will Riker. The only person who notices something amiss before the reveal is Chief O'Brien when Riker doesn't greet him as a friend during a chance encounter.



* The ''Series/SoWeird'' episode "Pen Pal" has Annie encounter a version herself from an AlternateTimeline where she spilled grape juice on herself, kicking off a chain of events that led to her becoming a remorseless bad girl. In the regular timeline, Annie chose orange juice instead, didn't spill it, and her life went on as normal.
* Many AlternateUniverse examples in ''Series/TheFlash2014''.
** Barry isn't a metahuman; Iris is a cop; Joe is a singer and goes by Joseph; Caitlin and Cisco are [[spoiler:metahuman villains respectively named Killer Frost and Reverb]]; Linda Park is [[spoiler:a metahuman criminal named Dr. Light]]; Ronnie is [[spoiler:alive, evil and goes by Deathstorm]]; Laurel Lance is [[spoiler:alive, evil, and a metahuman going by the name Black Siren]]; Henry Allen on Earth-3 is [[spoiler:a speedster and the real Jay Garrick]].
** Taken to its logical extreme with Dr. Harrison Wells. Creator/TomCavanagh has played ''six'' versions of Wells, plus two impersonators of the Earth-1 Wells, as of early season 3.
12th Mar '17 7:16:35 AM KingLyger
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* In ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'', Twilight meets human versions of her Equestrian friends at Canterlot High. In TheStinger of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks'', it is confirmed that Twilight herself has a human counterpart, as hinted at in the first movie, who is investigating the strange happenings at the school. This other Twilight has a much bigger role in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames''... And is notably freaked out by a school full of people she's never met all knowing her name.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'', Twilight meets human versions of her Equestrian friends at Canterlot High. In TheStinger of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks'', it is confirmed that Twilight herself has a human counterpart, as hinted at in the first movie, counterpart who is investigating the strange happenings at the school. This other Twilight has a much bigger role in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames''... And ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames'', and is notably freaked out by a school full of people she's never met all knowing her name.name.
** A notable aversion, and one of the biggest sources of FanficFuel for the series, is that former BigBad Sunset Shimmer doesn't seem to have a human counterpart (or if she does, has yet to be mentioned). Even the idea of another Sunset Shimmer has yet to be brought up in canon, despite Sunset being from Equestria.
13th Feb '17 2:29:03 AM StFan
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* ComicBook/CityOfDreams: the protagonist is quite different in her dreams compared to her waking world self.

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* ComicBook/CityOfDreams: ''ComicBook/CityOfDreams'': the protagonist is quite different in her dreams compared to her waking world self.



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* In WebOriginal/{{Keit-Ai}} and all its derivatives, a boy and the alternate universe version of his crush cooperate in helping them win the hearts of their other selves. However, drama ensues as they fall in love with other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.

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* In WebOriginal/{{Keit-Ai}} ''WebOriginal/KeitAi'' and all its derivatives, a boy and the alternate universe version of his crush cooperate in helping them win the hearts of their other selves. However, drama ensues as they fall in love with other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.



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* If the Universe is infinite,[[note]]or so mind-boggingly big that for all intents it is,[[/note]] a hypothetical traveller who went on and on sooner or later would find a copy of him/her/itself, as well as one of the observable Universe left behind. Physicist Max Tegmark [[http://timeblimp.com/?page_id=1484 has calculated]] that, in a Universe of that type, the nearest copy of yourself would be at 10^10^28 meters and the closest copy of our observable Universe at 10^10^118 meters.[[note]]Those numbers are respectively a 1 followed by ''[[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm 10^28 and 10^118 zeros]]''.[[/note]] What's more, if the Universe was actually infinite, there'd be ''[[MindScrew an infinite number of them]].''

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* If the Universe is infinite,[[note]]or so mind-boggingly big that for all intents it is,[[/note]] a hypothetical traveller traveler who went on and on sooner or later would find a copy of him/her/itself, as well as one of the observable Universe left behind. Physicist Max Tegmark [[http://timeblimp.com/?page_id=1484 has calculated]] that, in a Universe of that type, the nearest copy of yourself would be at 10^10^28 meters and the closest copy of our observable Universe at 10^10^118 meters.[[note]]Those numbers are respectively a 1 followed by ''[[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm 10^28 and 10^118 zeros]]''.[[/note]] What's more, if the Universe was actually infinite, there'd be ''[[MindScrew an infinite number of them]].''
13th Feb '17 1:36:52 AM Abdiel
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* In WebOriginal/{{Keit-Ai}} and all its derivatives, a boy and the alternate universe version of his crush cooperate in helping them win the hearts of their other selves. However, drama ensues as they fall in love with other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
22nd Jan '17 4:32:08 AM Owlorange1995
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* Anime/DragonBall: Everyone from Future Trunk's timeline is this to the people in the present, since using Trunks' time machine splits the main timeline into branches rather than allow one to change future events.
* Anime/DragonBallSuper: After meeting [[KnightTemplar Zamasu]] in the present, Goku and co find Future Zamasu in another timeline. This Zamasu has gone completely AxCrazy and has joined [[EvilTwin Goku Black]] in his [[FinalSolution quest to kill all humans.]] [[spoiler: And then it turns out that Goku Black himself was an AlternateSelf of Zamasu before switching bodies with Goku in another timeline.]]

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* Anime/DragonBall: ''Anime/DragonBall'': Everyone from Future Trunk's timeline is this to the people in the present, since using Trunks' time machine splits the main timeline into branches rather than allow one to change future events.
* Anime/DragonBallSuper: ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': After meeting [[KnightTemplar Zamasu]] in the present, Goku and co find Future Zamasu in another timeline. This Zamasu has gone completely AxCrazy and has joined [[EvilTwin Goku Black]] in his [[FinalSolution quest to kill all humans.]] [[spoiler: And then it turns out that Goku Black himself was an AlternateSelf of Zamasu before switching bodies with Goku in another timeline.]]
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* Anime/DragonBall: Everyone from Future Trunk's timeline is this to the people in the present, since using Trunks' time machine splits the main timeline into branches rather than allow one to change future events.
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